/fa/ - Fashion

What is it that makes watches such as pic related look so expensive? Everyone I've shown this pic to, correctly assumed the 5-6k price ballpark. How come it's immediately obvious to the eye that something's a quality watch and something's a Seiko-tier shitter?

>>14840401
>Everyone I've shown this pic to, correctly assumed the 5-6k price ballpark

This might sound autistic but is it difficult to transition from using an analog watch (with hands) to a digital one? I've been wearing ana analog watch for almost all of my life and I like how you can partition the dial into four different sections. It's very convenient.

But recently I've started to get into working out and other outdoor activities so I'm thinking of buying a square g shock. I'm just worried that I won't be able to get used to the digital display. Anyone else has the same worry? Should I just get an quartz analog diver?

>>14840395
guess ill post it

Alright /fa/gets, I went ahead and copped the infamous SKX013k2 for 250€ in Creationwatches, did I fuck up? Am I getting preemptive buyer's remorse?

>>14840540
You’re built like a lego minifigure

>>14840540

For me it's the SARX035.

>>14840581
Unless you're not that small wristed and could wear the SRP777 or SKX then nothing to be alarmed about.

The only issue is that like all Seiko bracelet it's meh at best, plenty of aftermarket stuff.

>>14840615
too big
dressy watches shouldn't have rehauts
shitter movement

>>14840615
>>14840642
I agree, it's not worth it over the price of a sarb since it's essentially the same watch with a nicer bracelet

>>14840581
SKX007 is way better designed and proportioned but if you are a wristlet you could've done way worst

>>14840401
The details of the dial. Chingchong can make (and makes) cases and pushers within the tolerances, but the dial and hands are where the largest difference is to be seen. Except maybe with overly simple designs like Panerai.

>>14840654
Imagine buying a literal plebbit watch
I've met 2 people wearing sarbs
one was a wimpy looking white dude going through a divorce that literally told me he bought it because he saw it on plebbit and other was a fat asian guy.

>>14840620
>>14840659
As a matter of fact I am a wristlet so, did I do good? I want it as a beater

Lets be real here, is there a single other watch out there with as much heritage, history and prestige as pic related?

Sick of entry level shit but not fuck you rich enough for Patek
What are some good mid level watches?

>>14840740
The one you make yourself

>>14840740
Rolex Sub.

>>14840740
Define mid level to you.

>>14840738
Absolute PURE CLASS

>>14840740
Rolex, Omega, IWC, Glashuette, JLC

>tfw love homages to classic sport watches but hate faux patina

>>14840740
About $500 - $4000 is very rarely worth it. Seiko or Rolex or fuck off

>>14840740
>fuck you rich
Imagine spending a large sum of money on a slab of metal.
Imagine being so simple minded you need pretty decorations on your time keeping device.
Rich people don't buy "luxury", brainlets and watchlets do.

>>14840581
Great watch, you'll love it more the lo ger you have it.
>>14840659
Yea no, proportions of the 013 are great. So thicc.

>>14840789

He has a great car collection and they aren't limited edition Priuses.

>>14840740
Longiness, Christopher Ward, Sinn, Hamilton, Tissot.

>>14840803
Imagine thinking that low-end swatch, chink.Ward, and quality control is a Sinn are worth any sum of money.
That's some r/watches tier niggershit right there you absolute fucking faggot.

@14840803
What an abhorrent post, please leave our commmunity and never return.

>>14840700
But what makes it look $5k specifically, while for example a Fortis or Sinn equivalent looks $1k even though it's not Chinese shit, even though the price is actually approaching $5k.

>>14840810
Your opinion is irrelevant. Brands like Longiness sell billions of dollars in watches each year at the mid-level price level to the middle classes. If you want to pretend you can afford anything more than a $30 Casio that's your delusion.

Thoughts?

>>14840841
Millions of people also have HIV. You're delusional if you refuse to get pozzed.

>>14840810
>quality control is a Sinn

>>14840844
It's a watch. Made by Seiko.

>>14840844
Or this?

>>14840540
Fat fuck

>>14840789
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/26/how-microsofts-bill-gates-spends-his-multibillion-dollar-fortune.html

>>14840789
Post wrist fag

>>14840901
>1988 Porsche 959 Coupe
what a based yid
That's a lot more fun that a fucking wristwatch.

>>14840935

Reminder that you limp wristed faggots could literally NEVER pull this watch off.

>>14840777
Time to get actual vintage sport watches then.

>>14840949
We get it you want to BE Brad Pitt.

>>14840395
>>14840581
>>14840540
How do you wear silver watches with metallic strap? I've never understood how to combine them with clothes
>>14840944
What are those?

why do people here dislike seiko

>>14840949
Her face looks like Pinocchio's

>>14840984
chink tier QC and design but hyped to hell and back by plebbit and youtube sois
This is literally what the average soikofaggot looks like

>>14841004
Post wrist baby boy.

>>14841011
after you based chad

>>14841021
I'm not wearing a watch today.

>>14840395
That's a nice watch.
>>14840859
nice watch, dont like the band.

I always wanted a nice watch but I never can find one that I like. Between the 2 of these I paid maybe $50. The right one is an Enicar ww2 era, needs to be serviced and the dome cracked and eventually broke.

>>14840395
Pot nasty shitters fit for autistic shitheads

>>14841047
sorry about the gyno bro...

Do you guys think it's okay to dress like a poorfag who hasn't showered in a week so long as you're wearing a decent watch?

Buy Orient Watches or else.

>>14841120
No.

>>14841120
It depends on how you look from the back. Also fuck beer.

>>14841125
>It depends on how you look from the back
You gonna fuck me from behind or stab me?

>>14840973
>silver watches with metallic strap
Guess you havent been around the whole watch thing too long?

P O L A R O U T A

>>14841120
It's somewhat unusual how much time you have to shitpost.

>>14841141
Maximal comfy pic.

>>14841130
The thing is that watches like that always feel out of place
They dont really blend with anything. Are they basically made to make every1 look at them?

>>14841172
>It's somewhat unusual how much time you have to shitpost.
Because I make 200K so I can buy more time.

>>14841191
>Because I make 200K so I can buy more time.
The hell do you do in life to make that much

>>14840540
lol fatanon thinks he's special

>>14841197
Based Kermit owner

>>14841172
blyat

>>14841195
I take engines apart.

>>14841120
looks like you got a little too much melanin there buddy

>>14840740

>>14841320
He said not entry level.

>>14841321
Look again, pleb. That's a Steinhart, not a Rolex.

>>14840984
>buy what you like
>it's shit
>buy what /wt/ recommends
>you fell for the meme and it's still shit
>buy russian watch
>it's commie shit
>buy Jap watch
>it's overhyped shit
>buy chink watch
>it's cheap shit
>buy Swiss watch
>it's overpriced shit
>buy vintage watch
>it's old shit
>buy microbrand watch
>it's meme shit
>buy seiko
>poorfag
>buy tag
>reddit faggot, it's mall shit
>buy tudor
>poor man's Rolex, loser
>buy omega
>what a shitter, couldn't afford a Rolex, loser?
>buy rolex
>it's fake you faggot snob

Is this watch worth anything?

i have really skinny wrists (my index finger and thumb touch when i wrap them around my wrist) what would be a good size to look for when purchasing a watch?

>>14841324
OH WOW SOMEBODY ACTUALLY OWNS A (STEIN)HART?!?!


WHAT SWISS BANK ARE YOU CEO OF???

>>14841349
What's your budget
Also 'skinny' could mean anything. Get a tape measurer and measure wrist circumference.

>>14841338
Probably not a whole lot but sure. Vintage omegas are nice.

>>14841367
>What's your budget
$100 i want to see if i like wearing watches if i do i will eventually get something better with a much higher budget

i don't have anything to properly measure with but my wrists are around 6 inches in circumference, give or take a half inch

>>14841392
SNK809 and try a few different straps.

>>14841224
Even if you take apart Bugatti engines, your hands look like of an 18 year old that haven't seen physical labor in his life.

For me, it's Hamilton.

>>14840401
But IWC watches literally look like cheap fucking pieces of Hamilton shit

>>14840738
Memes aside, no, Rotary watches are not great.

>>14841120
youre like that meme pic of how when girls take photos theyre the center of attention. you put that beer there (actually I didn't but blahblahblahxyz) purposely. nobody gives a shit if you drink alcohol let alone what kind you drink. the social status you think is associated with whatever you drink is make-believe.

yes im under 21, a kid and my parents forbid me from drinking. i have not the freedom nor experience or privilege you enjoy in life. i dream of drinking beer.. while I'm doing real drugs that are way better.

rip fuck this thread

>>14841330
thats PEOPLE. just do what you like and wear what you like. you're all you really have anyway - don't fool yourself.

>>14841330
Stop listening to 4chan

>>14841598
Nuh uhhh

>>14841040

That Enicar looks delicious. Please bei g it to a proper watchmaker, it will look great once it's taken care of and on a nice strap. Consider pigskin, it looks nice and would be period correct for something like that.
>>14841141
Very nice.
>>14841224
Based.

>>14840540
>a meat lollipop wearing a watch
impressive.

>>14841392
You're gonna wanna be looking at 36mm watches, 38mm you can do but it will look and feel big.

I would go seiko 5, find a nice unique model by browsing watchsleuth seiko5finder

When you feel like stretching your budget, find a vintage 36mm king seiko/seiko lord marvel/omega seamaster for $300-400

>>14841661
Linen dial lord marvels are pretty nice.

Dive watches are ugly and should actually be used underwater.

>>14841130
sorry, what's this watch?

>>14841739

Well, I swim in the sea with all of them. Happy?

What does /wt/ think about Cartier and the Cartier Santos?

>>14841894
Can't help but like the new santos myself. Though I don't care for most of cartier's pieces. Is there a medium version with that dark blue dial?

>>14841598
>But IWC watches literally look like cheap fucking pieces of Hamilton shit
Put IWC and Hamilton side by side and ask any of your friends how much they cost.

I wear "fakes" and there is nothing you libs can do to stop me.

>>14841661
other anon recommended snk809 and that one looks just about the style i was going for. do you thing 37mm would be too big? like i said before, i have very skinny wrists and I can't have my watch too big it'll look silly.

>>14841753
extremely

coppernah?

>>14841966
nice reddit collection.

>>14841923
37 is pushing it but there's no way of knowing until you order it and get it in your hands.

>>14841980
Why thank you, have you saw reddit watches, they blow /wt/s out of the water, in class, taste and style.

>>14841980
>hurr durr Speedmasters are reddit
You do realize no one outside of this thread actually thinks that? Or are you so deluded that actually believe the shit posted here?

>>14840789
>Imagine being so simple minded you can't appreciate anything

>>14840949
what is this and who's the girl?

>Vacheron Historiques 1942 Calander in White Gold
>$39,000
>Vacheron Historiques 1942 Calander in Stainless Steel
>$19,000

white gold is not this expensive.

>>14842044
Once upon a time in Hollywood, nigger

>>14842062
Every watchmaker charges more than the melt value of the precious metal used in the case. Would be nice if that wasn't the case but what can you do aside from just buy the steel version?

>>14841913
doing gods work son. crush the swiss horological hegemony and help restore england as the top haute horological country in the world.
https://wornandwound.com/rewriting-horological-history-london-watchmaking-swiss-forgeries-advent-mass-production/

>>14842115
Damn mountain Jews.

>>14842120
i did not expect to like that combo, but i do

>>14842120
why is this $500

>>14842137
You can get it for like €400 on watchshop right now, but yea the price is a bit much. I feel like $250-300 would be fair.

>>14842139
its a digital watch with a metal case.
$100 is more than enough, maybe $150 for the bracelet one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6_o05HKFeE
>complains about old timex watches not being serviceable
>while using his grandfathers 60+ year old watch that still holds time accurately as an example

>>14842115

Good read, thanks.

>when bruh is poor
bruh you're poor
>that is me when bruh is poor

>>14842169
glad you liked it m8

should I buy this silly ass watch

>>14842032

See>>14841330

>>14842032
you realize swatch uses plastic parts in their movements?

whats a good full metal digital thats not the g5000 or the regulus?

>>14841177
Yes and no. Stainless steel is known for durability and good resistance against damage from sweat, saltwater or sunshine. But yes, a shiny object will catch the eye.

>>14841741
Geckota K1L05, Meyhofer bracelet.

>>14841935
Have one. Love it

>>14842044
god damn that strap looks cool but I'd look like a fag into bondage if I wore it.

is reddit right?

>>14840949
I'd rather have the car than the watch, desu

@14841617
Seething.

>>14841395
It's diesel submarine engines, but I look after myself.

where is it brostoks?

>>14842062
Lol 9/11

>>14842544

>>14842544

Any ID on this watch?

yeah im thinking bunds are based

>>14842603
Looks like a JLC reverso.

feels bad man

It's blurry, but can anyone make out what watch this is from the picture?

Which timepiece should I add to this collection to have the perfect three-piece mealdeal?

>>14842693
Why not just sell both and buy a real watch?

>>14842693
A fake Tudor Black Bay.

>>14840395
faggot don't shit on seiko. grand seiko is class and there's some goods ones in the base line

>>14842704
Such as?

>>14842707
That might be an idea.

>>14842724
Kill yourself.

>>14842660
Looks like a Zeno

>>14842120
do you need some kind of adaptor for the strap for this thing? thanks

>>14842137
>>14842146
get the skmei version then you cheap bastards

>>14842498
Well your going to get a few retards on there, just because they have a bigger user base but overall they have more money = much better watches than on here.

>>14842693
I think it's time you got a Rolex OP, I'd say a 36mm datejust based on your collection, maybe a explore 36mm or OP39 for a no date. JLC reverso or master control for strap watches.

>>14842693
Do you find the Superocean top heavy at all?

>>14842793
I think you do for the resin strap model as far as I remember.

>>14840524
Like training you start and think I can't lift heavy weight but the you lift smaller weight and after many times youre strong and can lift heavy weight. Same with watch you say I can't read digital watch but everyday practice it gets easier and then one day now you can read digital watch.

>>14842603
It's probably an old Hamilton.

it's rolex 1675 or suby?

>>14842835
A phucken rowlecks might be the ticket.

>>14842837
No, I don't think the head itself weighs very much despite being 42mm, and it doesn't bobble about because the bracelet means it sits close to your wrist.

>>14842069
thanks anon!

Imagine wearing a watch without an alligator strap.

>>14840841
Swatch makes Longines target specifically the indian market more than any other. Made in China for Indians.
If that's a crowd you find yourself at home in then go ahead lmao.

>>14841330
Buy pic related
>it will outlive you
>it’s not made of plastic, but it has utilitarian rubber protection, which you can replace anytime
> it doesn’t require any maintenance, just change the cap every 20 years
>it’s forever accurate. You will never have to adjust it ever again
>it has all the best watch features
>it’s understated and it doesn’t look autistic
>it’s not made in China or Taiwan
>You will never have to take care for your watch, your watch will take care for you
>it triggers the watch snob soiboi
>objectively, the best watch you can buy
>you can wear it 99% of the time, add some dress shitter when you have to put on suit for your sister’s wedding

The ultimate chad watch. It shows a lot more character than “muh submariner” the typical hive mind idiot bought with their credit card.

>>14842947
Bruh, you also good with old Nokia phones too? Mine is not det-err I mean receiving calls when I bury it next to a road with a gift attached.

>>14842946
India has a developing middle class market with a huge population. EVERY swiss brand is being pushed hard there including rolex which have as many brand outlets there as the rest.

give me 1 valid reason I shouldn't spend my australian dollerydoos on this right now

>>14842957
>missing the point entirely
Yes, got me good bruh. brb, going to my AD to put me on the “waiting list”

>>14842963

It's too bulky. Save up and buy a pre maxicase sub.

>>14842963
It's not the burgundy one.

>>14842979
>just save another 10k for something else
>>14843009
I don't like the red one and blue is my favourite colour

>>14843020
Because it's the brand rolex invented for plebs

>>14843033
>t. Seiko owner

>>14843036
How dare you.

I own a citizen thank you very much.

>>14840540
A maxicase sub would've fit him perfectly.

>>14843020
>I don't like the red one
I didn't ask what you liked you fucking cunt.

>>14842963
blue is gigachad, like these vintage military tudors. Burgundy is for pussy basedboys.

>>14842963
No date complication

>>14843160
basic bitch

>>14840540
>all these newfriends falling for stale pasta
/wt/ is lost

>>14843207
Black Bay = Basic Bitch

>>14843209
> I recognize that pasta!
Bruh! That just means you've spent far too long in this general. That's both autistic and sad.

>>14841935
No!
They all gonna laugh at you!

Who wants some wrist shots of my Orient?

>>14840654
this looks fucking good

>>14841040
Amazing how the old luminescent paint has held up over the decades.

How are your casual Fridays anons?

>>14840395
Have any of you krafty kunts ever relumed your Boctok shitter? Or any watch for that matter?
I mean, unless you're double third world or something (6th world), it's not often that you'd be finding yourself in ultra darkness, and even if you were to go caving or some shit you'd be bring more along than just a watch.
Nevertheless, it'd be nice to have lume on one of these things that wasn't so shit.

>>14843495
yeah its pretty hard but you can probably do it like they do in the factory with a syringe

r8 me

>>14843536
>Being left handed
pleb

>>14843309
I'm taking this as a yes
>>14842429
How does it wear? I have somewhat small wrists.

>>14843542
>being right handed
how's it feel to be in the 90%?

>>14843495
just buy a favinov dial and handset. He uses C3

>>14843565
>tfw I'm actually left handed but still wear my watch on my left hand

>>14843575
That's normal.

>>14843681
You're normal

>mogs you royal cuckold and shitalus

ITS UP!
https://youtu.be/ykmM39JZvps

>>14843745
It's like you want to be bullied

>>14843787
Literally better designed than both, ESPECIALLY the shitalus.
>dial designed to look like water off a shore line vs a fucking square pattern.
>still has a bezel so it's not a useless fucking 3 hander
Yeah, I'm thinking MOGGED

>>14843818
I don't even know what you are talking about. What watch is the Cuckold and what watch is the shitalus. I've never heard of either.

>>14843825
what are the 2 most popular integrated bracelet watches on the market you brainlet.

>>14843833
I don't know. Why should I know that?

>>14843825
Not him, but it's retardspeak for royal oak and nautilus.

>>14843877

>>14843883

>>14843889

>>14843890

>>14843894

>>14843889
The radial brushed dial is pretty nice. Seems like it's not done much anymore.

>>14840654
Eh, I'd disagree. It depends on which SARX you go with, but I've seen many European watches around $1200 with a worse degree of finishing than you'd get on a SARX033 for less than $800. I think Seiko really screwed themselves with the SARB because the discontinued value proposition that is the SARB basically makes them unable to compete in the $500-1200 range with Tissot/Hamilton because people see 6R15 and get all butthurt like it isn't a competitive movement with the ETA-2824 or the SW-2000. Seiko may rate the 6R15 as -25/+45 but my SARX033 (and my cocktail time with the 4R in it desu) keeps more consistent time than my CW with a SW200 and my Wenger with an ETA-2824-2.

>>14840642
The 6R15 in my SARX033 keeps more consistent time than my watch with an ETA-2824 and my SW200 Christopher Ward. It's definitely not a super decorated movement but the 4R, 6R and 8R movements are more than capable especially in their price ranges.

>>14840810
I can't even imagine lacking self-awareness to the point that you thought anyone would read what you just posted and say "Wow this person seems like he has an idea of what he's talking about and a reasonable opinion. I'll take that into consideration." You're not even being a snob, you're a cartoon character emulating what you think a watch snob looks like.

>>14842963
>not a superlative chronometer

>>14843924
being better than swatch is like winning the special olympics

>>14843951
Hey retard, why the fuck are you in a watch thread if you can't recognize 2/3 most basic bitch watches on the market?
stupid faggots need to lurk more

>>14843985
I'm sorry your standards are so high that literally everything but perfection makes you feel like you're being ripped off. It must be miserable forcing yourself into being such an unlikeable bastard just so you can match some distorted perception of what a "patrician" behaves like.

Have you ever considered making your own mechanical watches? It's obviously incredibly easy from your perspective so give it a crack, I'm sure you'll be a superstar.

>>14844002
>swatch
>anything near perfection
>coping this hard because he bought the $800 plebbit incarnate soiko

>>14844009
Talk shit post wrist

>>14843991
I recognize the brands you fucking retard. I'm calling you a moron for being so high on your own supply.

Tell me, is there more cucked watch than pic related? Just imagine what a cuck one must be to accept to wait for months for some AD to finaly mercifully allow them to spend their money on rediculosly overpriced uninspired status simbol so that they are accepted into some imaginary "cool kids" club? To try to please their AD for months, by spending their money on stale stock which nobody else is dumb enough to buy and which they don't really want, only for the hope that one day they will be found worthy to buy this cliche washed out watch. Or even worse, go to the grey market and spend even more money on top of this already overprised shitter and thus making even more people richer in the process. As we all know, the presence of NOMOS on the wrist means "I like to take it in the ass", but to have steel sport Rolex on the wrist just screams "I like to watch when my wife submits herself to the BBC". Agree?

>>14844002
>It's obviously incredibly easy
Ok real talk.
Do you faggots REALLY think making a couple gears mesh is hard in anyway?
You really think following a manual and stacking a gear train is some kinda sophisticated work that takes years of schooling or whatever?
Fucking hell watch marketing is a fucking cancer.

I especially love it when you faggots jerk off over nu-in house movements.
You think it's hard to layer some gears in blender and have some chink factory stamp them out for you?
Are you actually this fucking stupid?
Pic related is hard. putting together a fucking watch isn't.
>>14844032
There isn't. If I see someone with a speedmaster, sub, any modern cuck-axial omeeega, or explorer 1 or 2 I automatically don't treat them as human.
If they recognize my watch and try to strike up a convo thinking I'll jerk them off I immediately shut them down for buying a basic bitch watch for a sum of money that can be used in much better ways.
dentists are always the worst offenders with watches and cars.

>>14844009
What's your recommendation you dumb faggot? What's a better value proposition for $500-800 than a SARX? The only ones I can think of are either Swatch (Tissot/Hamilton), a used Sinn, or one of the European off brands like CW, and all of those I would consider similar to a SARX and just as good a buy if you're set on it.

You literally have nothing to contribute than being a whiney bitch.

>>14844050
>The only ones I can think of are either Swatch (Tissot/Hamilton), a used Sinn, or one of the European off brands like CW
>t-tell me how to spend my money or else!?
If you want to get spoonfed on what to spend your own money on then fuck off back to plebbit faggot.

>>14844045
Again, it's easy right? Build your own movement from scratch and see how it stacks up. I can't even imagine being someone so arrogant as yourself. Literally stop talking shit on the internet and go do it better if you think it's such an easy task. You'll surely put them all out of business when you mesh three gears together and build a perfectly manufactured COSC compliant watch for under $200 right?

>>14844066
>COSC
>somehow a high accuracy standard
>can't fucking push 2 levers on xir watch in a couple positions to regulate
Amazing, it's like I'm replying to that autistic little plebbit robot
fuck off dude, you're sad.

>>14844060
It's not a matter of asking you to tell me how to spend my money. You're calling every single possible option garbage or shit and then proclaiming you have some innate knowledge that all the plebs don't. I know for a fact you don't have a better one in mind and are just being a retard for attention. Is your self-esteem really that low that you feel the need to shit up every thread about watches with your childish bullshit?

>>14843536
Best Amphibia.

inherited this and thought it was fake at first but pretty sure it's real. it works but it's scratched up and dirty. Original band clasp also doesn't close properly.

is it worth going to rolex for repair or should I just find some highly rated watch repair in town?

>>14844077
Are you literally 15? Nobody with any actual experience with mechanical systems would be this fucking retarded. Do you have any fucking clue how complicated gearing and creating a mechanical system with stable frequency response is?

>>14844088
I remember reading multiple stories about how rolex would replace and throw away the old parts of vintage watches that go in for service, effectively destroying the value of the watch. I'd suggest taking it to a watchmaker you trust.

>>14840395
Where can I get real SeaGull watches? How quality made are they?

>>14844095
I've never taken a watch in for repair, I guess I'll do some research and find someone local

Pic is me flexing on poorfags

>>14841894
I like cartier in terms of design.
I think that their watches look the best with their original size, making them bigger doesn't match their watches at all but that blue dial looks good.
One of my dream watches is the cartier crash.

>>14842947
>it doesn’t look autistic

>>14840987
mean.
do you know who she is?

>>14844032
t. poorfag

116610 is like 10k BNIB through 3rd party

>>14844216
Which ones?

>>14844141
>flexing on poorfags.

My watch costs more than your BMW.

>>14844264
My watch costs more than your hotwheel set.

>>14844032
Subs(and GMTs) just look so ugly.
The only Rolex I like is the Datejust. That's actually my dream watch. A Datejust in rose gold

>>14840395
>>Should I buy this Seiko watch?
>
>> No.

what about grand seiko

>>14840540
lol you fat fuck club-handed /fag/got hahahahahahaha

What's more impressive, Rolex's superlative chronometer or Omega's master chronometer rating?

>>14840395
guys why would you buy any watch besides an iced out rolex? im serious. every other watches just looks like some generic dogshit. is wearing a watch not about making a statement?

>>14844080
>B-BUT ITS NOT FAIR STOP CALLING OUT MY SHITTY POSTS
kek

>>14844085
Drop like 30lbs bro

>>14844089
>Do you have any fucking clue how complicated gearing and creating a mechanical system with stable frequency response is?
I do. It's not at all complicated when the basic swiss lever design was perfected almost a century ago.
Fuck off retard and stop throwing big words around.
Buying slabs of metal isn't a hobby and strapping shiny things on your wrist isn't a personality.

>>14844095
>effectively destroying the value of the watch.
OLD BEAT UP GOOD
NEW AND WORKING BAD
patinafag rolexniggers are the absolute worst

>>14844354
I didn't say shit about old being better, just that replacing the old parts and throwing them away tanks the value of the watch, which is objectively true. Tell me whether a red line sub or a regular white line sub is worth more money.

>>14844363
I wasn't addressing you specifically, you autist jfc

>>14844369
Then why make the post a reply nigga? C'mon now. Besides a rare/discontinued thing being more valuable is just a universal, doesn't matter what watchmaker is in question.

>>14842693
I just completed mine with pic related. I've had it for a day and fucking love it.

>>14844106
You can get them from China, direct or through a distributor. Quality depends on who cased the movement.

>>14844295
The Master Chronometer. That being said, anyone can service a Rolex but you need specialists to service the co-axial (mainly due to the lubrication requirements). Furthermore, there still isn't long-term evidence that the Omega version of the co-axial is better off than the traditional lever-escapement in terms of wear.

>>14840844
tell me what it is and i will give you my thoughts

>>14841352
It’s a $400 watch idiot

>>14842268
You do know omega makes the speedmaster 321 movement in house right?

>>14844516
nevermind i found it and yea its flames

>>14844541
It's not a real cal. 321 though; they reverse engineered a real Lemania 321 and updated it. Typical of Omega to do this. They think they know what the customer wants but have no fucking clue.

Why is it so dead here?

>>14844551
Point out the plastic parts in the cal 321 movement.

>>14844559
Why? There weren't any. Lemania didn't start to introduce plastic until the early 70's, using Delrin brakes at first (you can see that in the Cal. 861 and from then onwards, like in the Lemania 5100, pic related). They used plastic to lighten the movement because it was self lubricating and surprisingly reliable.

Why so testy Anon?

>>14844559
>Point out the plastic parts in the cal 321 movement.
You absolute fucking nigger. I can't believe you're this oblivious.
And no it's not functional because the sapphire model doesn't have it.
Imagine paying 3-5k for a movement that's worse than a fucking valjew.

>>14844584
That's not a 321 movement.

>>14844572
I’m not senpai. I’m just bored

>>14844588
You don't have a 321 in your cuckmaster faggot. This is what they're selling now and what plebbit is buying as le moonwatch.
By all means though, continue being a nigger and defending retarded marketing.
It's LITERALLY a chink homage to the watch that nasa used.

>>14844592
I don't have a speedmaster at all nigga. You were asked to point out the plastic parts of a 321 movement and then you post a pic of some other movement entirely.

I'd love an xpensibe chronograph but 7750 seems overpriced, lemania 5100's seem to be nightmare to service with dried up spares market

I got a st19 and wish the Chinese could modify it to have 12 hour chrono subdial, otherwise it's wonderful

>>14844551
because all the enthusiasts and people who knew things left when /g/ kicked them out

>>14844589
Repulsive. Seeing the word tissot is like seeing runny dogshit on the indian shitting street that is the swatch lineup.

>>14844594
That wasn't me retard.

>>14844601
Yeah this, it's frustrating because I'm retarded and relied on those anons and their investigations to guage how good a movement is

>>14844584
This isn't a Cal 321 though; see the bridge that holds the center seconds is not u-shaped (in your pic it's on the lower right corner). That plastic bit is the chronograph seconds brake that I talked about before in >>14844572

>>14844584
There's definitely some cross-posting here. The 1861 (which you find on the sapphire sandwich) is just the decorated 861, and as a functional watch it's not terribly worse than the modern valjoux 7750 (which everyone from IWC to Fortis uses, and Omega used before the coaxial conversion of the late 90's). The 7750 can do more things though; it can be automatic wind, and it has options for COSC as well as date and other complications.

The 861 is chronograph only really...anything that is added has to be added on top, thickening the movement substantially.

Considering that standard valjouxs will be in the range of 3-5k anyway, the argument is somewhat perplexing, especially because any watch that you pay for that is more than 100$ (mechanical, mind you) is a loss.

>>14844589
Oh....sorry about that. Here, have another pic of my recent cop which no one is asking about but I'm happy with.

>>14844592
Unfortunately, there's little option for the modern consumer, but that being said, Cal 861s were flight certified, so although they haven't been to the moon, it's definitely been in space. It's as close as the average pleb gets without doing research and going vintage, which is full of huge danger spots considering Cal. 321s in decent condition start around 8-10gs.

>>14844596
Agreed. I have one too and it's still running excellently. The 7750 is overpriced but it's hardy, it's not a waste of money and it can be serviced by anyone. The Lemania 5100s are a nightmare to service, but if serviced well will last a lifetime. It also depends on the watch it's in. You can get a good 5100 in a Fortis for 2200...but if you're looking for the grail it'll be in the 25,000 range.

>>14844601
I remember the /g/ purge from 3 years ago...was the one you're talking about recent?

>>14844615
Ask away Anon...I know about certain cals, but others are a mystery to me. We had a few specialists on tuning fork movements back in the day, and of course myself and a few others for random strange cals (like the Anon who has the watch you water), but then again I've been away a long time.

>my Seagull 1963 with acrylic. Starting to run a little faster though...now +0.8sec per day.

>>14844616
>The 1861 (which you find on the sapphire sandwich) is just the decorated 861
the break is metal on it too. That's my point why the fuck are they selling a 5k msrp watch with plastic parts
>although they haven't been to the moon
Exactly. And thave have FIRST WATCH WORN ON THE MOON in fucking bold on the caseback.
Also the fortis spacewatch is like 1700 new from watchbuys if you want a valjew

You're all a bunch of no-life cunts.

>>14844625
hey seagull anon. Yeah, I'm talking about that one.

>>14844627
Because plastic parts work. You're not paying for the materials, you're paying for how the materials have been worked AND for the brand. The brand represents usually around 70% of the markup on luxury goods, and watches are not immune to this. The precision and how these materials work together are what matters. The Zenith Defy Labs oscillator is silicon printed, it's not metal, and it costs an arm and a leg. Fucking awesome watch though in terms of engineering. The real question you should be asking is why we're paying 5k on a watch that in terms of engineering is 50 years old. That's not right. It should be in the realm of the Seagull reissue (i.e. less than 1000$).

Regarding the FWWOTM, that's just branding Anon. Buyers who are educated know that it's just branding, and they don't care. But allow for the possibility that the uneducated allow themselves to be fooled because the illusion is more enjoyable than the reality.

Why does the average person go into a watchstore and buy an expensive watch? It's certainly not to tell time accurately. It's to have a conversation piece, or something that increases their perceived status. If the illusion of a watch being tied to a great feat of human ingenuity, then why not let them have it? None of the watches we can purchase today have ever actually been to the moon....so it's more like, 'I'm wearing something that is the same 'kind' of watch worn on the moon'. It's a fantasy, because then the wearer feels like they can accomplish the same thing. Let them have it.

>>14844632
But but Anon..I just got this awesome Waltham and no one cares....

>>14844636
Hey macroAnon! Long time no c. How's the collection coming along? I just got a Waltham Vanguard yesterday...first pocket watch I've ever owned that was mechanical. Fucking beautiful to look at. The last time I was here I said I was done buying watches...well, wristwatches so far...lol

>>14844644
>you're paying for how the materials have been worked AND for the brand
Absolute faggotry

>>14844088

So it turned out ro be real! Very very nice, take good care of it, that's worth a small fortune. Don't send it to Rolex, they'll replace/steal a bunch of stuff. There are many stories of service centre employees 'replacing' parts and taking the old stuff to sell on the market. Are you in the states?

>>14844088
show the movement or fuck off
those hands are obvious as fuck

>>14844644
It's going very well. I found a couple rare things recently.

>>14844645
Yes. That's why it's a luxury good. Mechanical watches have been unnecessary since the quartz revolution, and wristwatches have been made obsolete by phones that sync with satellites. So modern watches are just luxuries. Accept that. Enjoy the hobby, by all means, but recognize it for what it is and then you'll never be disappointed.

>>14844655
Elaborate please!

>>14844644

I care. Honestly, still don't know much about movements, but that is a piece of art. Everything about it is beautiful. How old is it and how did you find it? >>14844632
That 1016 is my dreamwatch. There is no Rolex more beautiful than that.

>>14844660
I finally got to try on a Daniels recently at an event at Phillips. They really are much nicer in person than I expected, much nicer than Roger Smith stuff.

>>14844657
>Mechanical watches have been unnecessary since the quartz revolution, and wristwatches have been made obsolete by phones that sync with satellites
Speak for yourself retard.

>>14844679
>>Mechanical watches have been unnecessary since the quartz revolution
this is unambiguously true

>>14844669
Thanks Anon...I'm just happy I can share my enthusiasm about it with other Anons.

There's an old jewelry store my father used to frequent for presents for my mum. As these things tend to be family run, you try to get to know the owners so that they'll be friendly to you, and maybe give you a discount. Anyway, the last time I was in there with my father, I noticed in a tucked away corner some antique watches. My eyes passed over the pocket watch, but at the time I hadn't done any research on them so I had no idea what it was, only that it was a Waltham. That was about 8 months ago.

Yesterday I decided it was time to get a pocket watch, and though I'd been searching on Chrono24 and found a few good options, I remembered I'd never looked into the one at this store. So I drove by, and it was still there. After examining it and trying to contain my excitement, we struck a deal, and I was home with it.

It's far more rare than the shop owner knows. He misdated it at 1906, but it's really a 1911 (according to the movement serial number) and it matches the description in the Waltham online catalogue fully. The casing and movement are original, and it has only been serviced once (which is when the store acquired it 8 months ago). Likely it sat in a drawer for a long time or was used by the original owner and then passed down and forgotten in the time of wristwatches. So, heirloom likely.

The dial is perfect except for a hairline scratch near the 30 minute mark, and so far it's running a little fast (15 sec. per 24 hours from a full wind dial up). It's pendent set and not lever set, but that was standard for Walthams of this age and also because it's a sidewinder (crown at 3 and not at 12, but open face as opposed to hunter).

There's so much to tell, but bottom line is that it was far less expensive than the examples online, and in far better condition than those examples in this price range. I lucked out heavily.

>>14844672
Lucky bastard...I love Daniels stuff. I haven't seen a Smith in person though, so I have no idea what it's like. I know he puts a lot of work into it though...but the general aesthetic is not to my taste.

>>14844679
I do, and for all of humanity. The only place mechanical watches are necessary are in poor sections of southeast asia, where it's cheaper to have a mechanical that can be fixed than a quartz that relies on button batteries that are hard to come by.

>>14844694
A few other things about this that if you're an enthusiast getting into pocket watches, you should know regarding this watch:

1) Of the big three American makers (Waltham, Elgin, and Hamilton), Waltham was the oldest. That doesn't necessarily mean anything, but historically they were a standard by which other American watchmakers were judged. Their industrial facilities were studied by a young Henry Ford, and their first 'machine-produced' pocket watches won international awards to the surprise of many from the European continent, who by tradition did everything by hand. Granted, the movements in the Walthams required hand finishing, but the tooling was advanced for the time and the turnaround of numbers was far larger than other makers.

2) The Vanguard is considered the best movement Waltham ever produced in terms of accuracy over the long term. It was used in their Railroad Grade pocket watches, and in models like mine which could be considered somewhat more 'civilian'. Railroad Grade at this time in history required watches to have the crown at 12 and to be lever set (a small lever you pull out from the side of the face before manipulating turning the crown to set the time; used to prevent accidentally time reset if the crown pulled out while in the pocket). Mine however is one of 300 made in this configuration at this time where the movement is railroad grade but it's pendent set (like modern watches) and the crown is at 3. This requires a slight alteration in the organization of the barrel, but it's not unusual. Waltham made all three variations of the movement (crown at 12 and lever set, crown at 3 and lever set, crown at 3 and pendent set), and since the casings for the pocket watches were done locally (mine was done in Canada, likely Toronto) the order was done for a movement only. Customized to the customer.

Sorry...best pic I can do of the mvt.

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
GIB VOSTOK WEARING GF NOWNOWONWNOW

>>14844706
>The only place mechanical watches are necessary are in poor sections of southeast asia
You're such a brainlet holyshit.
I know several radiologists that can only wear silicon hairspringed watches in the basement because quartz watches don't keep time down there. Rolex sub of course is the most popular with them but one guy wears a cuck-axial be bought from costco kek

>>14844740
The face is 'double sunk', which just means that it's cut once for the general center and then again for the seconds subdial. The hands are blued steel, and the dial is enamel.

One thing which is particularly wonderful about this pocket watch is that I have only found one pic on google image search that is identical to the dial; i.e a 24hour dial with red 5 minute markers and the low 18. It's not the most common dial at all, and likely increases the rarity.

Railroad grade watches were regulated to perform at a maximum of 30sec +/- per week, but mine right now is at +15 per day (!!), though that's only after one day. It's been sitting in the shop for the past 8 months they told me, so it could be just getting the thing going for a while and it might 'settle down'. I'm going to check the other orientations (crown up, face down, etc.) to see if there's any variation before taking it to a watchmaker. I've had a guarantee of service, but given how much obvious little bits of dust are in the movement I might have to take it back to them under their warranty and have them clean it, though in truth I'd rather take it to my watchmaker and have him look at it (but he's away at the moment).

>>14844754
I'm talking about mass production requirement, not specialist. You'll see far more mechanical watches in poor parts of China than you'll see on the streets of Chicago. Regarding specialist equipment, it's no different with me; when I dive, I use my Seamaster, but it's my secondary and not primary (primary is a Suunto dive computer). Granted, the Seamaster would have been perfect as a primary 50 years ago...but things change. Now it's a nice thing that reminds me of the past. Radiologists aren't the only ones who require specialist watches. Many people who work in hospitals use the Milgauss or the Omega Aqua Terra for their anti-magnetic properties.

>>14844754
No subs have a silicon hairspring. Maybe your radiologist friends are liars? Or maybe *you're* a liar?

>>14844754
Why are you being such an ass to someone that is actually contributing to the thread, which makes me very happy?

>>14844740
Thank you. I'll have to read it a few times and google some terms to understand it better, but thank you. Pic is the watch I bought for my brother yesterday. Nothing special, but it has the beauty of an old watch without all the hassle that comes with vintage. Now I need to buff the crystal a little bit and find a nice strap for it so I can give it to him.

>>14844771
are you stupid

>>14844768
It's a nice watch, but you need some better pictures, seagullanon

>>14844774
> Parachrom
> As in, not silicon
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>>14844773
That's a nice watch! I'm sure your bro will appreciate it! It has everything one needs.

Regarding the terminology; I've been steeped in pocket watch history for the past few months, so forgive me for that.

One last thing before I forget; the movement is 23 jewels, but a few of them are diamond (!). At this time in history Waltham would use sapphire, ruby, and diamond depending on the purpose and of course the visual appeal. Fun.

>>14844775
You're right of course; my pics in truth have always been rather shitty, but it's because I don't have a light box, my hand shakes, and I can't be bothered setting up a tripod to post on /fa/. lol It's like 1990's era special effects...let your imagination fill in the gaps.

Pic related is the best pic I've ever taken, and it's not great but better than anything else I've got...lol

Beautiful Hamilton...is that a 910 I spy?

>>14844775
Also I took those shots this evening while the movement was running...I'm still trying to determine how much power reserve this thing has. It should be around 30 hours or more, but I won't know until it runs down.

>another shot I like of ye olde Semenmastere

>>14844608
Why so upset anon?

>>14843745
Actually basdd6 would buy if they made more

What do you guys think of the JF V5 royal oak?

>>14844754
No they don’t.

t. Works in interventional cardiology.

>>14844935
they already outed themself as not knowing anything so

>>14844771
>>14844774
>>14844781

>>14844596
St19 would be cool but servicing it would probably cost more than the watch it's in. I'm trying not to buy disposable watches anymore otherwise I'd get a blue hked

>>14844774
zirconium is closer to silicon than steel alloy brainlet

Tourist here, I have a casio f91 that I wear daily looking for an upgrade. My budget is 150-200 tops. Do i want a mechanical watch? Was looking around and see there's fuckton of options, pic related is what I like it has a nice face.

>>14844943
Get the HKED; he's reputable, and reliable according to every source I can find. If the watch has problems, he repairs/replaces it for free as long as you ship it back to him.

The watch new is around 300$ new; you're getting a column wheel chronograph for a fraction of the price you'd normally have to pay. If you have a 'friendly neighborhood watchmaker' then servicing won't be more than 150 tops, and that's assuming that you need to do this in 7 or 8 years from now.

Bottom line: if you like the watch, get it. I love mine, though in truth I don't wear it as much as I should because I now have a rather large rotation.

Can someone create a new thread? Everytime I do it I somehow fuck it up...

>>14844045
Dam you're not aloud to like what I don't, there is something to be said for aesthetic design. 4-7k isn't that much money if you have a fair income. I tend to spend good money on things I uses everyday, even more so if they last many years.

You just sound very angry over some watches, so dress watches are for gays and steel sports for cuck dam that doesn't leave much.

>There isn't. If I see someone with a speedmaster, sub, any modern cuck-axial omeeega, or explorer 1 or 2 I automatically don't treat them as human.

>If they recognize my watch
What do you have? I don't think I've ever saw a shit post and wrist shot.

You just sound broke or you came from a low class family, made some money but still have the chip on you're shoulder.

Get of /wt/ go culture yourself, travel, food, reading. You are just a degenerate as of now.

>>14844348
Well watches are an intrest, some say hobbies but tastes and styles are a part of a personal, they don't define it tho.

thoughts on this watch?
https://www.amazon.com/VOSTOK-AMPHIBIAN-RUSSIAN-AMPHIBIA-120059/dp/B01ETAO3F4

>>14845005
shitter

>>14845033
find me a good one bro

>>14844422
>. That being said, anyone can service a Rolex but you need specialists to service the co-axial (mainly due to the lubrication requirements)
lmao
>buy innovative movement that requires no lube from one of the last great watchmakers on earth
>proceed to make lube a necessary component
swatchmega are a joke

>>14845005
If that's your personal taste, buy it.
Don't come here for validation, these threads only exist for trolling and hubris.

>>14845061
i dont know shit about watches, im under impression i should get mechanical watch and saw that was affordable with good reviews. for 150 bucks max what would you suggest

>>14845067
>im under impression i should get mechanical watch
why

>>14845067
https://gearpatrol.com/2018/12/13/affordable-mechanical-watches/

>>14845079
>why
i lurked here before, was told quartz is a meme
>>14845081
thanks

>>14845067
The first ones that come to mind are the Seiko5 and Casio Edifice.
I wouldn't tell you not to buy a Vostok, many people swear by them. I'm just not one of them. It really comes down to buying what you like, and any watch under 150 isn't going to be an heirloom anyway. If you like it, buy it and enjoy it. If it turns out to be junk, lesson learned.
I still wear a $50 Casio I recieved as a gift 17 years ago. Other than a new battery from time to time, it works perfectly.

I'm going to dip into my retirement fund to buy an AP royal oak from a guy who works there.

Is this a bad idea?

>>14845089
thank you anon, an f-91 casio is my daily, i also have this g-shock. i got tired of bulky shit, hoping to find something to suit my skinny wrist

>>14845067
>>14845102
get an orient, mine has good power reserve and has been going strong for a few years now

>>14842120
That is very cool in an outdoorsy kind of way. Perfect for. Trecking or huntingm

New bread:

>>14845218
>>14845218
>>14845218

>>14844264
>your BMW
>picture us a VW steering wheel
What did he mean by this?

>>14844077
You are actually braindead

>>14844141
>not getting your face in the logo reflection
>>14844264
Wow I bet you sure are rich given your ability to spot luxury cars so well