/fa/ - Fashion

>>14647271
Instagrams:

Prep:

https://www.instagram.com/kjp/
https://www.instagram.com/alexstourbe/
https://www.instagram.com/dixielandtrad/
https://www.instagram.com/thepreppytexan/
https://www.instagram.com/thepreppynewenglander/
https://www.instagram.com/sweatbrah/
https://www.instagram.com/josephcrabb/
https://www.instagram.com/wmbrownproject/
https://www.instagram.com/thepreppyguy/
https://www.instagram.com/pjhavel/
https://www.instagram.com/hardinglane/
https://www.instagram.com/seangaleburke/
https://www.instagram.com/howieguja/
https://www.instagram.com/_______jung/
https://www.instagram.com/kazuyahiramatsu/
https://www.instagram.com/sophieschumacher0/
https://www.instagram.com/carly/
https://www.instagram.com/abbycapalbo/
https://www.instagram.com/robinvancrabb/
https://www.instagram.com/northeasternnautical/
https://www.instagram.com/jackiegreaney/
https://www.instagram.com/thenavyprep/
https://www.instagram.com/kileyskeff/

Trad:

https://www.instagram.com/acutestyle/
https://www.instagram.com/tintinfellow/
https://www.instagram.com/andreasweinas/
https://www.instagram.com/oskarsalomonsson/
https://www.instagram.com/thelandlessgentry/
https://www.instagram.com/dave_money3/
https://www.instagram.com/kleidsam/
https://www.instagram.com/fifi_le_car/
https://www.instagram.com/parisian_gentleman/
https://www.instagram.com/mrsalomonsson/
https://www.instagram.com/muffyaldrich/
https://www.instagram.com/the_mulberry_tree_lifestyle/
https://www.instagram.com/eleanoraudet/
https://www.instagram.com/sonyaglyn/

Ivy:

https://www.instagram.com/benton.down/
https://www.instagram.com/leelobean/
https://www.instagram.com/oxfordclothbuttondown/
https://www.instagram.com/arnoldsteiner/
https://www.instagram.com/tko3r/
https://www.instagram.com/dick.carroll/
https://www.instagram.com/gezzaseyes/
https://www.instagram.com/georgewbush/
https://www.instagram.com/sartorialchap/
https://www.instagram.com/psy3927/
https://www.instagram.com/watatanigahaku/

Whats the best quality khaki? Nothing I've ever used ever feels as crisp or sharp as what I see in older pictures

Blue/Green Cableknit sweaters:
Beams Plus, William Lockie, Polo Ralph Lauren have them at the moment (check links in OP). Brooks Brothers, Drakes and Gant usually makes them too

To fold sweaters see pic

>>14647280
what are you using?

>>14647275
>>14647271
BTW, OP text and Instagrams were changed this thread:

http://www.monkandeero.com/ added to Not Updated list
http://www.monkandeero.com/journal/how-to-dress-like-a-prep Added to reads list
https://imgur.com/a/SRKjs and https://imgur.com/a/eEw6B added to albums

Fair isle and other sweaters list was updated

Added kazuyahiramatsu, dic.carroll and thelandlessgentry to instragram list, removed 3

>>14647292
I've used dickies, levis, gap and banana republic. So far banana republic is the best but none of them have really had that "prep" look they all look "modern" if that makes any sense

>>14647308
JPress, Brooks Brothers, Polo Ralph Lauren, Bonobos, Duckhead, Drake's...

>>14647280
Try these
https://www.reddit.com/r/NavyBlazer/comments/d4vphf/chino_reviewsdiscussion/

>>14647315
Forgot saying that duckhead has different qualities in their models, you'll notice on the price

>>14647289
Damn that’s a good tip I was wondering how to fold them

>>14647308
Prep is modern. Trad is old timey and baggy

>>14647280

O connells is the best.

>>14647364
How were you folding them?

>>14647289
https://www.oliverbrown.org.uk/cable-knit-crew-neck-jumper-lovat.html

>>14647424
http://www.oconnellsclothing.com/O-Connell-s-Scottish-Shetland-Wool-Sweater-Cable-Knit-Apple.html

>>14647429
This one is cotton:
https://www.ralphlauren.es/es/jersey-de-algodon-de-punto-de-ochos-447000.html?cgid=men-clothing-jumpers-cardigans&dwvar447000_colorname=Fawn%20Grey%20Heather&webcat=HOMBRE%2FRopa%2FJers%C3%A9is%20y%20c%C3%A1rdigans

>>14647431
Cotton:
https://es.gant.com/hombre-jers%C3%A9is/verde-jersey-de-cuello-redondo-y-punto-de-ochos-en-algod%C3%B3n/48001

>>14647433
https://www.endclothing.com/us/beams-plus-cable-crew-knit-1115121110365.html

>>14647436
Serpentine colour:
https://www.scotweb.co.uk/products/chirnside-cable-knit-cashmere-sweater/

Made some low quality oc. Pls no bully

>>14647297
Fuck the guide seems to not be working, yesterday was working, at least is accessible through web archive, its probably the best article ever done about this style:
https://web.archive.org/web/20190305153851/http://www.monkandeero.com/journal/how-to-dress-like-a-prep

Could someone full screenshot it? My web browser is crashing when attempting to do the full screencap

Does anyone have a scan or pdf of the Official Yuppie Handbook? Internet Archive has it, but there's a weird waiting period to read it. I have read it before, and I've really been wanting to read it again lately.

As it starts to get colder, I'm going to try to pull off the polo under an oxford look. Wish me luck.

>>14647596
This is on par with ocbd under a turtleneck

>>14647600

>>14647440
https://thebrubaker.com/collections/jersey/products/the-merino-trenzas-verde

I took my Barbour jacket out of the drawer for the first time this year. Running late for a seminar but had to do a style check for you lads

>>14647691
what barbour model and loafers are those?

I like the fit, but I know you are going to get hate for the jeans.

>>14647433
Logo ruins it.

>>14647465

There was a sudden heatwave and now its 40+ degrees warmer than last week. Can't see it too well, but shirt is yellow and white vertical striped seersucker.

>>14647761
>what barbour model and loafers are those?
That's Barbour Cartmel and the loafers are my old Crockett&Jones pennies that I got like 4 years ago. They're still of excellent condition.
>I like the fit, but I know you are going to get hate for the jeans.
I don't really care. I go to an ancient Oxbridge college and trust me no one around dresses here like what this thread praises. Going full trad/ivy/prep is akin to larpers here, who aspire to transcend their (lower) middle class background. However, they don't realize that it doesn't take much to see through it.

>>14647804
Awesome shirt

Are there any better boots than Meermin's around ~£200-300?

>>14647804
Souteast?

>>14647823
Last ones are blake welt instead, the others give you comparable or slightly better goodyear boots made in europe instead of china:
https://www.crownhillshoes.com/es/hombre/botas-hombre
https://berwickshoes.com/category/zapatos-y-complementos/zapatos/berwick/botin-berwick/
http://orbans.fr/fr/8-boots-homme
https://michelshoes.com/categoria-producto/botas/
https://lottusse.com/es/117-botas-hombre

It's finally cooling off.

>its f/w
>want to wear nanticket reds and boat shoes

>it's s/s
>want to wear cords and shetlands

>>14647904
You look like every other STEM student at my uni.

>>14647904
whats the white/grey thing on pocket?

>>14647909
You're right on- I work in IT.

>>14647909
I work in IT.
>>14647931
A device that shocks me if I come within 50 feet of a federal building or school.

Is it true that what makes sweaters pill are the acylics/nylons?

Found this guy at WAYWT:
>>14647729

>>14647950
Why is your skin literally white?

>>14648096
Lightning, light hit me where I took the photo, see the cuff on the shirt, its white too.

Nothing wrong with being white :^)

should i go?

>>14648179
If dubs, go

>>14647804
Anemic looking collar

>>14647950
Why are you still posting this slop
>>14647965
His trousers fit poorly
>>14648179
Yeah but bring a friend
>>14647465
Pretty meh
>>14647691
that bike is a shitter, nor the slim fit jeans. Shoes contrast too much, get a darker pair
>>14647904
Nice

>>14647807
>I go to an ancient Oxbridge college
>realize
>z

>>14647823
Loake 1818

>>14647950
You need to find another way of taking pictures. It's difficult to assess the fit of someone who is using wide angle and a mirror half a metre away. Right now you look like your torso is abnormally long and your legs are tapering away into infinity. If I didn't know better I'd say a black hole has appeared below your feet.

>>14647804
Like the other guy said, the collar SUCKS. Otherwise pretty good effort. I hope you're going to wear some nice penny loafers with that.

>>14647802
>>14647804
Huehuehuehue

>>14647308
Orvis has a nice, stiff, heavy khaki. Buy the "trim fit" trust me.

>>14648179
yes you should go

I'm a tan guy who wants to learn more about traditional (mainly british or med) non fedora clothes than can be worn daily for affordable wagie tier prices, mainly earth tones, and non-complicated patterns. Could someone please link up some good inspo, a bit of basic info about learning how to dress in this style and maybe specific stores, pretty please? Thank you

>>14648365
hahahahaha I know, when I see the pics on the computer I notice that but I only have that full mirror at home (rest "cut" me). Torso seems legit in size, but the longer you go to the floor, the worse it gets because of the angle.

>>14648575
There is stuff in the OP, take some time at reading it, there are some british blogs there

>>14648575
Why don't you read the OP, it has everything you are looking for.

>>14648586
>>14648585

ok guys thank you I'll look into it

>>14648585
>>14648365
I tried with another mirror I have at the bedroom (lightning is shit at this hour I know), I have to take the photo from farther away so shoes and shirt can be seen completely, but at least the angle is not so massive and doesnt distort so much. In other pics my upper body seems fat and now my legs appear with better proportion and with a length that matches better leg lenght (like OPs pic)

Do you think this way is better?

>>14648586
>>14648585

So from what I gathered from reading some of the links, if I wanted to go Italian style trad, my suit jacket would be shoulder pad-less, and instead of a three piece suit i'd wear solid khakis and typically dress in a more painful, bold style in terms of colour, and typically have toasted brown, eye catching shoes with minimal broguing.

Can a version of this but with more saturated dark earthy browns, green and grays work, or will the combination of the reduced formality of the italian trad style not work well with the lack of the bold colours and sprezzatura that come with it?

>>14647839
Northeast :^)
>>14648370
What is it about the collar? just curious
>>14648467
holy fuck lmao

>>14648686
>italian style trad
Thats a bit out of this thread, look at these 3 sites and then try to find italian, spanish or french menswear blogs.

http://sartorialtalks.com/en/
http://www.elaristocrata.com/
http://claseleganciaydistincion.blogspot.com/

>>14648705
Nothing wrong with the collar, some guys here only accept huge ass collars

>>14648717
Less than this size is wrong

>>14648717

I just don't think i really suit prep, i'd be a poser. A nice med or English style affordable dark toned trad would be cool. I'm struggling a little with squeezing information out of these blogs, though.

>>14648723
Styleforum probably has more of what you are looking for

>>14648633
Not the other dude, that looks better than what you previously posted. I thought you were fat

How many of you LARPers actually even went to prep school?

>>14648717
>>14648705
Collars should roll, not look like they're standing to attention.

>>14648717
>sartorial talks
Hugo might know his stuff but he's got awful taste. He also needs to cut that goddamn hair. He looks rediculous. All his wife, whilst MOMMY-tier, looks like a peaky blinders larper half of the time.

Sort of an odd request, but are there any brands that sort of look cyberpunk. Want to try and find a cyber corp look. Workplace is business casual more so on Mon/Fri.

>>14648767
>LARPers
Stopped reading there.

>>14648633
>better
Much better. Your fit is fairly solid but you need to work on your trousers. Seems like everything you wear is really low rise which really doesn't flatter your proportions. If you look a the thumbnail of the picture you posted you can get a good idea of how dodgy the proportions look. You need trousers with a higher rise and maybe a bit less slim fit so they actually drape/fall a little instead of clinging to your legs.

>>14648845
Just hide it. Don't give them (you)s.

>>14648096
>>14648122
it's funny how everyone always attacks "shitskins" and blacks, but now even whiteness is under attack lol

>>14648850
I wouldn't say its an attack. Unless you're a female ginger, having pale skin isn't really desirable.

>>14647465
>tfw no arrogant upper class gf
wtf I thought I was the only one with this feel

>>14648839
what the hell

>>14648845
Ignore:
LARP
lawyer
daddy
mommy
dad
mom
rich
poor
class

>>14648846
>low-rise
Hardly anything around is mid or high rise, so I go for low-rise, I would get bigger rises because I prefer them, but many times I only see them on wider pants that dont fit well on me

>slim fit
I like it and is the fit that goes better with my ass shape, I was told that by some girl, and from my mother too :) With regular fit sometimes it gets a bit baggy under my bottom (back area of legs)

>>14648850
I was shocked as well when I saw the comment

We have reached the time of the year in which these things start appearing, they are quite popular at my city, do you like them?

Is it stupid to get bean boots just for rain? It doesn't get very cold and it definitely doesn't snow where I live, I just want something waterproof.

>>14648920
>Hardly anything around is mid or high rise,
You want to look good or what? If the higher rise pants don't fit, get them tailored. Assuming you're based in the states, you should have options.

Here are my recommendations for higher rise pants in Europe.
Uniqlo 'vintage'. I've got some light green trousers that I love. Perfect mid rise and straight cut.
Natalino. Legit high rise trousers. Sits on hips so these won't fall down. A bit slimfit though. My favourite flannels/cords.
Cordings. Fit varies immensely between different trousers. You've got to try these on in person. I have some chinos which are all mid rise with a taper. They also do cords/flannels but I haven't tried them yet.
Scavini. French brand I know (I live in Paris). Pretty nice quality. Select s3 (1 pleat) for the higher rise. Everything else is low rise french cuck core.
Ralph Lauren Polo: some nice chinos which are mid rise. Buy on sale.
Yoox. Loads of brands on here. I have some trousers and a pair of flannels from 'zanella[' although I'm keen to try others.
>>14648937
I like the idea (casual shoes you can wear with chinos that aren't penny loafers) but I've never managed to make them work with a fit. Please post a fit where they look good.

Also where do I buy a turquoise blue cable knit wool jumper like in the OP? (europe)

>>14648937
Those hurt to look at. On par with those dress shoes that have sneaker soles.

>>14648937
nigger tier. get camp moc/ranger mocs

>>1464894
its fine. theyre cheap. get the gum shoes if you just want waterproof

>>14648944
No, It isnt stupid. They would be an excellent choice for rainy weather.

>>14648955
>Assuming you're based in the states, you should have options.
Spain

Of all the stuff you said PRL is the most accessible one for me, I have a salmon chinos from them but they are also low rise. I love cordings but they dont match my body type, they feel way to baggy in the back part for me.

>Please post a fit where they look good.
I mainly see them with jeans and a OCBD around, its nothing really good usually.

>Also where do I buy a turquoise blue cable knit wool jumper like in the OP? (europe)
I posted this morning examples of a green one at the beginning of the thread, the same manufacturers I listed had blue ones, I dont know if they are the shade you are looking for.

>>14649010
This is the only outfit that appears in google images, nothing special

>>14649010
If you live in Spain, there should be tailors/drycleaners who will tailor your shit no? I'd try yoox if I were you. It's free returns, it's barely an inconvenience.

>>14649021
Tailors arent common and they are usually expensive and more related to suits.

If you are an XL you might have luck:
https://www.countryattire.com/barbour-essential-cable-knit-mens-sweater/ca50106072.html?colour=Blue

>>14649061
Damn what a shame. Here in Levallois Perret there's like 5 in my quarter alone. Mostly "retouchers" which is below tailor but above a dry cleaner. Thanks for the link, sadly I'm not a chubby.

>>14649075
Check the brands I said before, probably William Lockie has some blue one you like. Take a look at the sweater list from OP, some might have them

>>14647908
I have the same problem. I spend all Summer planning out Fall/Winter fits, and all Winter wishing it was Summer. Last Winter, I dressed up in full tennis whites just to lounge around at home. I'm about to purchase my first pair of nantucket reds, and Summer is ending right now. Additionally, I'm probably going to ask for Madras shorts for Christmas.

>>14649086
Its actually good to buy stuff out of season, you might find cheap stuff because of it. I got a fair isle scarf at the beginning of summer, I hope to be able to wear it soon, but heat hasnt dissapeared yet...

?

I'm under the ocean rn. Fr

>>14649482
WAYWT is that way.

>>14648957
Or like "dress boots"

Just get a pair of oxfords. Fags

>>14648937
Yeah those are pretty cool.

Me and the boys

>>14648096
>Why is your skin literally white?

I can't find good pants that are not in a complete set

Just did coke for the first time. Is that /prep/?

>>14649833
Coke and bit loafers are the only things that make prep and sleaze overlap.

>>14647271
Should have the rake too
https://therake.com/

>>14649867
Sinatra wore gucci bit loafers I read. Are tapdance shoes tpi?

>>14649929
That seems to be a shop, with some blog posts

Bum

>>14649535
Nothing wrong with those

>>14649538
Those are very ugly... The Sebago ones look better.

>>14649929
nah


Today's outfit: I am shaving tomorrow. I don't like the lightning of this mirror, I had to raise luminosity in the camera to take the photo. Should I cuff these pants?

Anyone have insights into where to shop in Paris? Used to be (before I arrived) a big craze for english stuff. Was even a big famous store called Old England that sold everything you would expect from a traditional retailer. Sadly all gone now. Just boring sub-celine type stuff like Sandro, Ami, Cos...

>>14649939
>Sinatra wore gucci bit loafers I read.
Sinatra was also a flashy greaseball wop, what's your point?

>>14650541
By search "british clothing at paris" in Google, they appear at least 3 results at maps.

It seems incredible that my small city (250000 inhabitants) has more british clothing shops than Paris.

I have a pair of Andrew Pant from PRL (pic related), do you guys have any other recommendations for wide leg, mid or high rise trousers(preferably with pleats)?

>>14649075
If you like this blue: Massoti on google

>>14650606
If this is cableknit for you instead of aran:
https://www.oldbyre.co.uk/scott-officer-aran-front-sweater-in-como.ir

>>14647807
lol you've never been within 5,000 miles of Oxford or Cambridge faggot

>>14650575
Menswear aka traditional in Paris really sucks. One of the worst cities I've lived in for it. Especially if you aren't willing to dispense many bucks on bespoke. Pic related, Italian shirts I bought today.

>>14650495
Not to be rude but you should work out. You have a lot of decent fits but your shoulder to waist ratio isn't ideal. If you bulk up the chest and shoulder area and slim down the waist, it will make a lot of your fits wayyy better

>>14650541
>Anyone have insights into where to shop in Paris?
Get on the Eurostar
Go to London

>>14650552
>Being prejudiced against Italian-Americans
>2019
Yikes

>>14650880
I cant slim the waist, my bones have that width :( The problem with working out is that gains are gonna be small because I do activities such as tennis and cycling, which tend to reduce volume, and I am not going to leave both hobbies

>>14647271
Where can I find similar shoes?

>>14651054
Just add pull-ups and push-ups to your routine. Not that time consuming in mornings.

Mommy

>>14650971
Yeah, I'm English so I'm in London for like a quarter of the year. Still would be nice to actually get some advice on Paris shops.

P.s. thoughts on cords like this

>>14651058
Literally any English (Northampton) shoe maker.
>>14650608
>>14650606
Looks great thanks

>>14651146
ment to ask: which one?

>>14651146
Left.

>>14651075
I have a pair very similar to that one in fit and colour

>>14651062
How many?

>>14651146
Left in case you are asking for advice

>>14651238
3*6 pullups to start and 3*20 pushups. Just keep adding on and you'll pack on sum upper body mass

>>14651075
The cords look decent, nice colour and the taper doesn't look too severe. Can't see what the rise is like though they could be ballcrushers.

>>14651274
I have you go to the gym for pullups, and thats 20-30 min from my house... any alternative?

>>14651058
Check the OP for a shoe list + british brands

Found this obscure shoe maker from Manchester on Etsy, they seem to make some interesting designs in boots for relatively cheap:
https://www.etsy.com/shop/LordByronEmporium

Some look good on instagram
https://www.instagram.com/lordbyronbespokeshoes/

>>14651486

Interesting is an understatement. Hideous pointy/chisel lasts, crazy extravagant patinas and some of really head scratching decisions in loafer design. Apart from those white bucks and maybe a boot or two everything is fairly unwearable. These shoes, especially on the Instagram, would go well with Cruz couture for the ultimate in over dressed Italian sexcore.

>>14651502
I meant these, maybe the 3 I didnt circle can fit too

Thoughts on corduroy shirts? This one looks awesome

>>14651553
You need to get some taste man. Only the peakys are acceptable there, the others have misplaced btogueing (they look like Frankenstein shoes) or they appear to be wearing belts. Not a good look. The bottom left loafers seem to have a faux crocodile skin texture that seems to stop abruptly near the toe box. Wtf

>>14651610
Sure. The collar on that shirt looks too short though.

>>14651705
Its long enough to have roll

>>14651320
Buy a pull-up bar for your door, they're like 20 dollars. One fifth of a pair of pants

>>14651743
>It has a roll
Just BARELY. Getting a nice collar is absolutely essential for nailing the /tip/ look. 'Close enough' just won't cut it I'm afraid. 'close enough' is the difference between true /tip/pers and Sam the office intern that just landed his first position and buys all his shirts from Uniqlo. If you can't comfortably fit three fingers in your shirt don't even think about sending me a (you).

>>14651610
>>14651743
You people are pathetic. Shitty mall brands aren't prep. This general needs to be more pretentious, and shame people who recommend this trash

Help me out prep looking for some black dress shoes budget is about €200, preferably something I can get resoles in the future. I don't know shit about dress shoes and all I usually wear are different boots but non of them are formal

>>14652166
Alright mate. If you can stretch your budget a bit, get a loake from the 1880 range. E.g.
https://www.loake.co.uk/product/aldwych-black/
(pic related)

Otherwise, go to here to herring shoes. I've filtered it by goodyear welted (so you can resole them) black oxfords but of course there's a gorrillion shoes to choose from. Avoid patent leather and you should be good.
https://www.herringshoes.co.uk/search.php?task=newSearch&nsFrom=0&mobile=0&nsLimit=24&sortTag=-1&country_id=7&sortBy=price&sortDir=asc&sale_search=0&Tags%5B%5D=2&Colours%5B%5D=1&ns_keyword=goodyear&submit=Search

>>14652166

>>14650986
>t.

Female inspo?

>>14652202

>>14651075
>P.s. thoughts on cords like this
They look too low-rise to me. I'd say check Oldfield but their shit's all out of stock. Don't know if they're restocking or just dying; you'd think they would have a supply of cords in for autumn though.

>>14650552
>>14650986
>>14652201
Gentlemen, gentlemen, let's calm down here. I for one, think it would be in everyone's best interests to set aside our differences, at least temporarily, to unite against those dark academia fags coming here from tumblr. What say you?

>>14652202
When in doubt, refer to the OPH

>>14652202

>>14652202
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>>14652202
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>>14652202
Take the Laura Ashley pill

>>14650552
He had a preppy/trad style though no? but I guess I agree with you. Musically he would fit right in at more refined upscale places at any rate

Idky I was associating Sinatra with prep sorry

>>14652125
>Needs to be more pretentious
L _ R P
Fill the space

>all these posters that don't actually smoke
come on op, you know the true answer.

>>14652704
This was an incorrect take when you posted in the RIGHT thread.

>>14652718
ya I'm retarded, but you're welcome to argue my opinion in the other thread.

>>14652614
Sinatra was pure sleazecore. If you want real class youve got to go for Cary Grant.

>>14652777
Guy certainly knew how to D R A P E. Sinatra was a slimfit fag who if he lived today, would be posting selfies on Instagram and putting shitty inspirational quotes under each pic or vaguely threatening over compensating phrases like "I had to do it to them" followed with a picture of him in full sexcore regalia doing that weird pose like he's trying to squash a nut between his two hands.

George H W Bush >>>>> all those you are posting

>>14652202

>>14652785
Bush was pure unabashed new england prep. You can't compare him to trad icons.

Kennedy is super overrated in my opinion. He was dressed like anyone at Yale. The bottom button was buttoned to conceal a brace he had to wear for his gammy back.

>>14652185
Cheers anon I'll have a look!

>>14652837
nah

>>14652834
he looks like a jerkoff

no surprise there though

>>14652837
Was she the best he thought he could do? No wonder he cheated on her so much.

>>14652999
Nice trips and all, but I think Jackie was a very attractive lady. I wouldn't have cheated on her.

>>14652999
He didn't cheat because he was unattatracted to her, he cheated on her because he was a dickhead.

>>14652614
Exactly. Sinatra dressed typically Hollywood and/or "classy Italian-American" which is more toned down than just the Italian equivalent, but much more flash than prep (prep is loud but in a different way, more playful and less vulgar). He dressed like a classy musician and that's entirely appropriate for him, but it's not the same as dressing like a patron. I guess his fits might belong in the traditional umbrella now by virtue of being old and suit-based, but people mostly mean "English trad" and it isn't that either.

>>14652999
>>14653119
You're both wrong, he cheated on her becasue he had access to prime Marilyn pussy. Don't act like you would be able or even want to resist if Marilyn Monroe was happy to be your side piece. As Bill Burr has it, you don't even know what it's like to be tempted at that level.

>>14652777
that guy is clearly tall and athletic, whereas FS was very short and scrawny

>>14652980
JFK fits are simple and look good

>>14652785
This is true

>>14652185
>I've filtered it by goodyear welted (so you can resole them)
You can resole blake welted ones as well


Outfit of the day: FRC blue gingham shirt, Polo Ralph Lauren nantucket reds chinos, Pedro del Hierro braided belt and Sebago boat shoes. I had to raise luminosity in the camera because lightning is absolute rubbish in that bedroom

>>14653276
Real colours are closer to this, pant colour is tricky because they are brushed so they shine a bit like moleskin pants, they appear slighly more red than what they are

I’m gong thrift shopping for the first tine today. Any tips? I am going to look out mostly for jackets, knitwear and accessories.

>>14653281
On knitwear, make sure its full wool and that its not very deformed in the area of shoulders (because they hang it down instead of putting it in a pile)

>>14648955
>Cordings. Fit varies immensely between different trousers. You've got to try these on in person. I have some chinos which are all mid rise with a taper. They also do cords/flannels but I haven't tried them yet.

These are my favourite chinos. They are a "true" mid-rise, sitting just over my hips.

They're not overly baggy, but fit and even some details like no. of buttons vary, annoyingly.

The fit itself is fairly trim, I wouldn't say there's a huge taper but they're perfect if you want to transition out of cuckcore slim fit but fear the boomer drape.

The only downside is that they're dry clean only, which is a bit precious for chinos. I machine wash them cold and have encountered only slight shrinking thus far.

>>14653304
Could you tell me what size you wear and the dimensions of these? Is to compare to it to some chinos I own.

>>14653304
>Dry clean only
Really? Post a picture of your chinos please. I've got a couple pairs and they're all washable. Even if it does say dry clean only, if it's cotton you can probably wash it.

>>14653276
You're right they can by resoled however it's rarer to find a cobbler able to do it as it requires a Mackay machine. Better off with Goodyear welt.

>>14653276
You look like Michael Phelps. In all seriousness though, thanks for posting fits. No one does and we need it.

Pic, found a brioni tux in a charity shop. Figure I could get it tailored (hemmed, take in at sides, made a few cm shorter).

>>14653349
There was also a private vc white chunky cashmere jumper in the same place. Sadly XL.

>>14653352
I'm struggling to find a European chunky grey Shetland. This is expensive but I think I'll cop.

>>14653355
I like the colour of the wool. Natural fleeces in that shade are best.

>>14653349
>You look like Michael Phelps
What? hahaha

You have to tailor that yes, I would say the shoulders are a bit wider than what it should be, and the sleeves are a bit long (1cm or so).

>>14653355
There is a huge list of european knitwear brands in the OP, it has a shaggy list too

Its a pity shipping is so expensive to EU, KJP makes extremely cool looking flannels for autumn, dunno about the quality of them

Any idea of similar ones in EU?

>>14653399
>>14653355
https://www.mkistore.co.uk/product/mki-brushed-shetland-sweater-silver-granite-2

https://www.northern-fells.com/collections/shetland-woollen-co

I've both of these, the Shetland Woollen co. in charcoal and the MKI in a mid-grey, the fit is quite different between the two despite coming from the same maker (LOKL). Both excellent quality though I'd recommend the MKI if you want something cheaper

>>14653456
Shetland Woolen link is in OP's list, I am adding that other one to the list as well.

How do you know they are made by Laurence Odie Knitwear?

I can't find good pants here in brazil. I've tried doing prep but it simply does not work with low rise slim fit. Feels strange not finding anything regular fit or high rise. But them I see older dudes where I work or on the street with adequate trousers and wonder where the hell they're getting it from. Maybe a private tailor like my father but I hardly believe it's that widespread. I'd ask but I don't want to look like a homo

>>14653399
I've searched through it all. None had a grey shaggy in stock.

>>14653456
Shetland woollen co don't have m . Mkl looks like a good bet. Thanks friends.

>>14653501
Howlin has brushed ones at Endclothing on size M

Huge variety of Cable Knit sweaters for £70:
https://www.houseofbruar.com/mens-house-of-bruar-country-lambswool-cable-crew-neck-green-tt15140moss/

>>14650757
What made you so angry anon? Do you go to a non top-10 uni or what?

>>14653528
Elderberry, warm ginger and a few others seem decent, the rest feel a bit whitey

>>14653490
The inside garment tag on the left side of each is identical: "LOKL / Made in Shetland / Scotland"

>>14653507
I should have mentioned, compared to MKI the SWC one fits very large - I'm about 6'3", 38"-40" and the small still fits slightly loose on me. It's a very 'traditional' fit with very wide arms etc. In contrast the MKI is rather more 'modern', with slimmer arms/body. For me a medium in that is just about right (even a little on the tight side), so I'd say it fits roughly tts . If you're a medium in the MKI you could very confidently size down to a small in the SWC

>>14653845
are they thick?

>tfw lost too much weight and my bespoke suit doesnt fit anymore
Feels bad. I will bring it to the taylor next year and see what can be done.
I am planning on acquiring another one, possibly out of linen, since it is very hot where i live.

>>14653894
They're fairly thick, yes, but it's got a distinct quality to it - lightweight, very soft, very insulating, not windproof at all

>>14653184
>Bro, just cheat on your qt preppy brunette wife with this blonde bimbo who's taken hollywood producer dick in every hole
No thank you.

>>14654053
SWC is better than MKI right? I mean quality wise

>>14649016
Heh, found some guys wearing them at twitter. The photos are from some politician

>>14654431
I know both fits are not prep (but close in some cases), but they were wearing lug sole boat shoes in them.

>>14654398
They both have the same maker's tags, and as far as I can tell they're totally identical in terms of quality. No difference in the wool/brushing/warmth whatsoever, just a different fit (and different colours available too)

London based guy.
http://www.preposity.com
I think he's a raging douche though. Such are the risks of prep.

>>14654569

Extremely punchable.

>>14654573
That blazer is terrible

>>14653349
The brown shoes with the black or close to black suit don't match at all in my opinion.

What do you think of cream/white cable knit pullovers for men? I absolutely love women wearing them, but don't see many men with it

w2c high rise gray flannel trousers for ~$100 or under

I'm still learning about all this so can someone tell me what kind of shoes he's wearing?

>>14655032
I don't think they have flannel but:

https://www.peterchristianoutfitters.com/pants/

>>14654433

bearded guy looks like a sith with his turban hair cut

>>14655039
Brogued Oxfords. Soles look extra chunky. Bit like something you would find on trickers Bourton (although that's a derby).

>>14654984
It's not obvious I'm just trying it on? It's a tux. Who would wear a tux with a madras shirt and loafers? Lol

>>14654984
Btw, white I hate because it always makes me look like an enormous snowman. Cream or beige is better.

I want to have 4 pairs of pants specifically for the approaching autumn and winter. So far I've got a dark gray pair of wool trousers and two pairs of corduroys in brown and purple. I was thinking flannel for the fourth but not sure about what color would be useful for rounding out what I've already got. Thoughts?

>>14655255
Navy ofc

>>14653276
looks like shit desu

>>14655255
Gypsy-Khajit core

>>14655499
I have purple though...

>>14652837
JFK had great casual sense but his suits are very poor in my opinion.

>>14652202
Betsy from Taxi Driver

>>14653810
>the rest feel a bit whitey
gtfo here

>>14655212
This happens to me with my aran sweaters, they are already baggy so It looks big, but when you add that colour, I seem huge (fat)

>>14655045
Why ist the waist starting at 32" while the leg lentgh is at 28"?
I have a size 29" waist, so there won't bei any possibility for the trousers to fit

>>14655039
Best option is good. Anywhere else you're going to get a piece of low quality shit at that price. It's not /tip/ to buy low quality clothing. Save up if you can't afford it.

>>14656119
You replied wrong

>>14656119
for
>>14655032
Best option is yoox*

>>14655505
Post fit

>>14655255
Navy or other shade of blue or some green. Can you post photo of the purple ones? How do you style them?

Outfit of the day: EasyWear madras shirt, Cortefiel khaki chinos, Pedro del Hierro braided belt and Castellano 1920 beefroll penny loafers. Had to raise brightness again, real colour in next reply

>>14656260

>>14656263
Shoe pic I made to spam dark academia thread

>>14656260
Nice

>>14656379
>>14656376
Those are really bad

>>14656376
>>14656379
bait

Dark academia is a prep PR campaign

Is there a break in period for Brooks Brothers shirts? I'm wearing a new one and it feels really stiff/starchy.

>>14654573
This faggot sitting has a rowing blazer from my college's boat club. I've been rowing for 3 years and know most of the alumni from past 3+ years, and for sure I can say that he never went to Cambridge let alone rowed for my college. Judging from the vest and the tie he is one of these faggots who collect club/college/regimental stash from places they would never get into. Typically, you must at varsity or at least be the first college boat in bumps to get social approval for buying and wearing this blazer. It takes massive dedication of waking up all year round at 6am just to cycle to the boat club and train often in rain or snow on the river, and then you have these faggots who just go to AE Clothier or Ryder & Aimes and pretend to be rowers. Sorry for British autistic screeching but lot of us put a lot of work and heart to eventually be able to wear this kind of clothing with pride and such faggots depreciating their value make me furious.

>>14656645
row at varsity

>>14656645
Autism

Based dad won best dressed in 1981 and now he just wears shorts and t-shirts

>>14651774

What's with the obsession with roll? Is it some way to identify money/success by looking at someone's collar?

>>14656762
You will too when you have actual responsabilités

>>14656780
This is a fashion forum retard, not a larping advice forum. now you should be able to answer your own question.

>>14656793
Frog

>>14656780
Its an obsession

>>14656803
>>14656806

Can dig the style, I'm just not well off enough to get away with it yet.
That being said, a simple short collar is beautiful in it's own right to me.

i miss wearing white bucks.

>>14656821
>a simple short collar is beautiful in it's own right to me

you don't belong in this thread then

>>14656821
Honestly you're better off at MFA with that attitude.

>>14656806
English actually. Cursed with living in France and speaking their awful language temporarily.

>>14656911
>their awful language temporarily
it sounds too faggy

>>14656762
That outfit is nothing special

>>14656873
You can wear them in Fall
http://www.ivy-style.com/how-the-white-shoe-law-firm-got-its-name.html

This MFA guide is actually good, for measures:
https://www.reddit.com/r/malefashionadvice/comments/d87ayo/blazer_guide/

>>14656890
>>14656909

Honestly you could take yourself a little less serious.

>>14656955
>sounds too faggy
It really does. Most of my French friends are girls. The guys are all twinky slimfit effeminate almost-men. I've redoubled my efforts at the gym and dressed in a more self conscious masculine style just so I don't get associated with these dickweeds.

>>14657000
That's literally why mfa exists. It's a hug box. If you want to hear the truth then come here. The truth is that menswear is all about the details and a sub 3.25inch collar Oxford just isn't going to cut it. I'm sorry I can't help you with your buyer's remorse but one day when you have a job that pays you will look in the mirror and gaze upon your splendid rolling collar and realise that the asshole on /tip/ was right.

>>14657025
Imagine being so insecure lol

>>14657035

Whatever you say, boss.

>>14657025
>The guys are all twinky slimfit effeminate almost-men. I've redoubled my efforts at the gym and dressed in a more self conscious masculine style
You should take a look at instagram style section, the guys that scream faggotry are usually extremely bulked up guys that try hard to look masculine: clothing and beards.

>>14657057
Examples:
https://www.instagram.com/magic_fox/
https://www.instagram.com/andreas_linder/
https://www.instagram.com/davidgandy_official/
https://www.instagram.com/thisistimothy/

can someone rec me a good chore jacket like this one from drakes? would love to buy it but fuck paying over a grand for that. 300-600 range.

>>14657077
https://lemontsaintmichel.fr/en/men-workwear-jacket-bomber-72

Should i cop these corduroy for €60? It is slim fit, which is not optimal for this kind of pants, but they are comfy. They are from Massimo Dutti.
>>14657077
Shop from pic related has a similar, but lighter in color jacket for 200. Dunno about Inditex's quality regarding leather, though.

>>14657112
>Massimo Dutti
ah neat. there is one near me so i'll have to go give it a peep.
the cords look nice. i like when they have larger gauges (i think that's the word?)
as long as they're slim and not skinny, you should be fine. if they're gripping the shit out of your legs while standing, there is an issue.

>>14657072
Both French Twinkie and sexcore guys look unmasculine.

>>14657077
In suede? No. In cotton, sure. Vetra, Le Laboureur, Arpenteur, and Le Mont Saint Michel.

>>14657147
>In suede?
i'm not very sold on the suede. i just liked how drakes styled it and the construction looks solid. thanks for the brand recs. will give them a look.

>>14657077
It's ironic paying that much for a tradesman's uniform. Reminds me of those multicoloured designer ripoffs of tawainese shopping bags. I'm sure the materials and construction are topnotch though

>>14657077
>>14657086
Chore coats scream s_o_y_b_o_y

>>14657112
Cop, those look good. I own a pair of slim fit corduroys from Massimo Dutti in a different colour and they are fine. If you want to know how slim they are, they are the same as the PRL ones shown here >>14653276

I moved them a bit at the bottom so you can see that salmon pants are below

>>14657160
Fuck, forgot pic

>>14657165
I have an A2 leather jacket from MD, this one:
https://static.massimodutti.net/3/photos/2019/V/0/2/p/3331/177/700/3331177700_2_3_16.jpg?t=1545216809526&impolicy=massimodutti-itxmediumhigh&imwidth=400

>>14657170
The leather smells to leather and its soft when you touch it. Its clearly not top tier leather, but for 180€ it cost its quite decent.

>>14657112
I just tried those exact ones today. Bi wouldn't cop, they'res no drape, they cling to your legs like cling film . Definitely not /tip/

>>14657077
I could go to any thrift store for you and get you a blue cotton one for like 15 cuckbucks. As long as you don't mind it probably having been worn by some carpenter for 40 years. Otherwise I'd recommend 'a days march'. Great midrange stuff that's worth every penny imo

>>14657160
You must be a skinny twig if those elasticated cords don't fit slimfit on you.

>>14657160
>Chore coats scream s_o_y_b_o_y
yeah i'm not even sold on getting one yet. saw the drakes one when they posted the season and now i keep getting alex crane ads (pic related) about it and am entertaining the idea.
>>14657208
>I could go to any thrift store for you and get you a blue cotton one for like 15 cuckbucks. As long as you don't mind it probably having been worn by some carpenter for 40 years. Otherwise I'd recommend 'a days march'. Great midrange stuff that's worth every penny imo
will give them a look. thanks for the rec.

I'm hesitating to buy this sleeveless pullover. I'm not fat but since I workout I'm afraid I'll look rediculous. Looks so practical though since I wear a blazer 5 days a week. Thoughts?

>>14656645
kek

>>14657224
It's not really /tip/. It's really a workwear thing.

Post recent cops. Shaggy knit from jinji (Paris shop)

>>14657035
Based
>>14652125
Based

>>14657212
Last week I was a fat slob and also had a wide chest according to this thread. Now I am a skinny twig, fantastic!

>>14657230
That one looks nice, I think its better to get sleeved ones.

>>14657239
Nice, added that brand to OP list

>>14656645
Rowers are faggots though who wish they were insane chads like the rugger boys. You're not as bad as the lacrosse guys though. Posting sweaters since the other thread was ruined by anons posting 'fashion' sweaters.

>>14657242
Well you can still be a fat slob with skinny legs. I see them all the time in Shoreditch. Anyway I tried those trousers today and they were way too skinny for tip. I've got regular legs that's why I'm saying that.

>>14657224
That outfit without the gay jacket, is really good. With Brown belt and Brown Suede tassel loafers it would be great

>>14656645
Based and can confirm, even if rowers are usually insufferable at least they still care about these things

>>14657242
Add carrier company as well.
https://www.carriercompany.co.uk/collections/mens/products/lambswool-jumper

Posting tip watches.

>these privileged child's slap your gf's ass the country club
>What do

>>14657197
It is what worries me too. They are not skinny and overall look like the trousers >>14657160 quoted, but the drape is rather minute. I think i am going to cop, but only because these are in a darker colour and this will be less noticeable. If these were a tan pair of pants, it would be a deal-breaker.
>>14657145
It is called a "whale", i think. They are nice, although a genoa back and a regular fit would be better. Don't think i can get those for under €100, though.

>>14657266
Added them on Guernsey Jumper category, the ones from the link you said are just shetland sweaters, not brushed. For the moment that sweater list is only for:
fair isle sweaters
sanquhar sweaters
guernsey sweaters
norwegian fishermen sweaters
shaggy/brushed sweaters

Should I expand it with other kinds of sweaters? ideas?

>>14657280
You have made a grave mistake. I will find you when you post a fit and pursue you.

>>14657230
They look fine, but they will make you look older. Even worse than a cardigan. If you want this look, go for it.

>>14657272
win the caddy tournament of course.

>>14657283
Wouldn't say they are Guernsey sweaters. Theyre much more like Shetland in construction, weave and collar. Also, I don't see why we are excluding non brushed Shetlands...

>>14657294
The ones you linked not, they are shetland sweaters, but this one is a guernsey :)
https://www.carriercompany.co.uk/collections/mens/products/traditional-guernsey

>>14657287
I'm 31. I am older. We will see.

>>14657304
Oh right. Could also have a section for cricket jumpers although that might be pushing the style into costume territory

>>14657230
personally i think these make people look like dweebs. so if you get it. i wouldn't take off the blazer. and the only real reason to go with this over a regular jumper is if you are sweating bullets with the blazer.

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>>14656266
w2c?