/fa/ - Fashion

POST CRACKYCHAN HELLO KITTY WATCHES

>>14225356
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>>14225345
>>14225356
Fuck off windyknob, I want the old you back you fucking shitter loving bigmac chucking broken teen fucking shitposter

>>14225362
what makes you think that's based windy?

kek

>>14225365

>>14225356
>>14225359
Based

>>14225377
W-WINDY??
Is it really you??

>have a daily quartz beater
>have a special occasion semi-elegant watch
>have a heartwarmer just beacause I like it
>still want another watch

Does it ever end? Im covered for all practical grounds. Should I rather spend money on upgrading given categories, rather than buying another watch just because it caught my eye? Should I sell the old stock?

>>14225381
Yes but I can't stay today, love you guys. I have been anon shitposting a bit lately but alas I have been discovered

love you guys! love my /wt/ bros!

Is a vintage US army 34mm a good entry level watch for everyday use?

>>14225356
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>>14225384
Never stop upgrading. It's better to have a set of three gems than fifty dogshit watches.
Eventually your dress watch will be a Patek Calatrava and your daily wearer will be a Rolex GMT.

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What watch is this? I can't find any info anywhere?

Ref number? Wtf when did seiko make a tasteful solar day date diver without telling me?

>>14225387
Post full collection

To the anon who was stating that the longines L619/888.2 (2892A2) cannot be regulated. What is wrong with having a free sprung wheel with eccentric weights? Many high end brands do this.

Going through my heap of random vintage watches.

https://auction.catawiki.com/kavels/12767387-omicron-ratatau-reference-3360-vintage-1950s-wristwatch-no-reserve-price

Would it make sense to restore this? It's working just fine, but it's very cheap on ebay.

Omikron and Ratatau are apparently brands from this company: Fulton Watch Company, Gve Homberger Fulton Watch Co. Ltd., Bienne, Suisse, Switzerland.

I also found this, and I have no idea what the hell it is, seems like some noname brand too:

https://megazakaz.com/ebay/product/142212158906

What strap should I get for this?
I think I lost the metal strap when I moved back to the UK and NATOs make it ride really high on my baby wrists

>>14225402
>It's better to have a set of three gems than fifty dogshit watches.
Everyone who posts their giant collections of shitters here should relaly take this to heart.

If anyone is actually interested in a nick mankey strap for the summer I can throw u a discount he gave me

>>14225429
>Would it make sense to restore this?
Almost no watch is worth restoring. In the case of the one you pictured, you can pour thousands into it and it won't be worth a single dime more. In the case of proper collector's watches, restoration can actually reduce the value.

If it's too filthy as it is, you can have it cleaned and serviced by your local watchmaker if you like, but don't fall into the trap of thinking any old Swiss watch is worth anything.

>>14225387
Shitposting instead of good content. It's fucks like you that destroyed the general.

>>14225512
I see, I'll just trash the entire lot then, thanks!

>>14225419
Crossposting educational content:

In order to understand why those Swatch Group escapements don't work the same way as a proper free sprung balance such as those produced by Rolex, Patek, JLC. etc I have to go a little bit into how a free sprung balance works.

Basically, the timing performance of a balance wheel is determined by several factors: How balanced the balance wheel is on its axis, the length of the hairspring, the inertia of the balance wheel, and the geometry of the hairspring.

On a free sprung balance wheel, the length of the spring is fixed, and the geometry of the hairspring is usually as close as possible to an evenly spaced spiral, however, eccentric weights near the rim of the balance wheel in at least 4 locations allow a watchmaker to finely adjust both the balance of the balance wheel, and its inertia, with the balance wheel gaining inertia as the weights are moved further out from the center axis, and vice versa as they are moved closer.

The further out from the center axis these eccentric weights are located, the more adjustment range they provide because a small weight will have a larger effect in changing the inertia of a balance wheel the further away the weight is to start.

Now, once you understand that, you can look at a Powermatic 80 style balance and notice that it only has two adjustable weights, which is intrinsically not enough to adjust for the balance of the balance wheel about its axis of rotation (you'd really need *at least* four), and the eccentric weights are relatively close to the center axis, where moving them has a proportionally much smaller impact on the inertia of the balance wheel. These two factors combined mean that the adjustment range they provide is not enough to adjust the timing behaviour of the escapement, and selective lasering off of parts of the balance wheel are necessary to achieve balance on the axis and basic timing performance.

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>>14225545
Basically this means that the eccentric weights on Powermatic-80 style balance wheels provide a relatively limited range of adjustment around the baseline set at the factory by laser burning mass off the balance wheel to try and balance it on the axis and set its intertia.

>>14225545
>>14225548
Top quality posts

>>14225356
>>14225359

based cracky poster

>>14225536
You don't have to trash it. Better: pick a piece or two that you like and then try to offload them on eBay to dumb guys who think there's money to be made in restoring old Swiss beaters.

>>14225510

I'll take it.

snakesonabike@live.com

>>14225571
What? If it's shit it's shit, why would I try to sell it? It's hardly worth the shipping and the hassle.

Looking for a cheap shitter I can run into the ground, thoughts on this?

Is there any way to test to see if my chinkshit is sapphire that's non destructive?

>>14225587
>It's hardly worth the shipping and the hassle.
You factor those into your asking price.

>>14225589
it's an homage to a watch that's itself an homage.
it's a cheap shitter, sure, you're right on that count.

>>14225589
Its gud
Get the 9015 no text version
Only issue is the high reflective crystal

>>14225696
Can't get the miyota, GMT models only come with a shitty chinese movement (DG3804B)

Also, just pulled the trigger on another shitter

>>14225709
Reeeeeeee

hello im an electrician looking for a watch

my budget is up to $300, but I am preferably looking for one with a non-metallic surface. anything that conducts electricity could btfo me one day so trying to avoid that. i'm a wristlet as well so something on the smaller side around 35mm is preferred.

thx anons

>>14225746
Ur kind of fucked mate
F-91w is plastic case, that's about it. Maybe marathon watches have some plastic cases I dunno

>>14225749
should have clarified, the face can be any material. just the underside or strap shouldn't be metal. but I suppose that's just as hard to find.

>>14225548
>>14225545
People have reported that as little as 1/10th of a turn of the screws adjusted time by 20 seconds on the 80 movement. Can the eccentric weights not also be moved laterally for greater range of adjustment to speed the movement up if necessary? Are circumstances likely to develop in these sorts of elabore grade movements (longines) whereby corrections would be needed that a watchmaker could not adjust? Replacing the spring etc in the worst example?

>>14225755
Wristwatches have a mostly universal strap system, generally watches will have 18,20 or 22mm lugs, and pretty much every strap maker sticks to those three widths, so you can put on whatever you want.

Here's a sub 300 guide
Imgur.com/a/NFMXDuK

>>14225746
Look into Casio GWB5600BC-1B
>>14225755

>>14225545
>These two factors combined mean that the adjustment range they provide is not enough to adjust the timing behaviour of the escapement,

Why do they have them at all then? Why not just laser cut and be done with it?

>>14225777
>Can the eccentric weights not also be moved laterally for greater range of adjustment to speed the movement up if necessary?
If that much adjustment is necessary, you may have some additional damage that may need to be repaired.
Yes they're hard to adjust, but they are also laser-sculpted to be balanced.
So they'll be great out of the box, the problem with them comes in a couple years when they do need to be adjusted. The adjustment is so crude that getting it back to the +/- x sec./day it was new is extremely difficult.

>Are circumstances likely to develop in these sorts of elabore grade movements (longines) whereby corrections would be needed that a watchmaker could not adjust? Replacing the spring etc in the worst example?
No circumstances different for any other movement. You're talking about significant damage at this point.

>>14225777
>People have reported that as little as 1/10th of a turn of the screws adjusted time by 20 seconds on the 80 movement.
That's because the eccentric screws start as far out as possible so the first part of their adjustment range has the most dramatic effect on timing rate. The further they were moved inwards towards the axis of rotation the size of the resulting change in timing rate would shrink.

A;so, having only two of them to adjust means the slightest mismatch in how much they are moved or how they move laterally relative to each other will immediately introduce positional variance not previously present.

>Are circumstances likely to develop in these sorts of elabore grade movements (longines) whereby corrections would be needed that a watchmaker could not adjust? Replacing the spring etc in the worst example?

The three concerns over the lifetime of the watch would be a tendency for the watch to slow down as the lubricants in the escapement age between services, potential for wear and tear over time on the escapement to cause larger permanent changes in escapement behaviour, and for the need to be able to adjust the movement when re-assembling the escapement after servicing.

With traditional regulated balances and with full fledged free sprung balances, there is a large enough range of adjustment that a watchmaker can be relatively certain that they will be able to get the timing behaviour within acceptable parameters assuming the escapement doesn't exhibit any unusual wear or damage.

With Powermatic-80 escapements there is a much greater likelihood of the escapement's performance over time and/or after servicing drifting outside of the range of adjustment the two screws provide. In such a case, the watchmaker will have to replace the escapement entirely, which is not ideal and does not reflect the desire for long lasting, serviceable parts normally associated with mechanical watches.

>>14225777
>>14225788
>>14225792
>>14225814
So basically that anon from the last thread who was all proud of the power reserve of his Longines poor-man's-Seamaster shitter has an extremely fragile movement?

>>14225777
>>14225814
Note that the issues are much more severe with the Powermatic-80, specifically, as the standard version of that movement uses a plastic escapement much more likely to exhibit sizable drift in timing performance and positional variance over time than the metal escapement versions found int he Powermatic-80 chronometer and the Longines versions based on the 2892. The risk is still quite real, and these movements are likely to have a much higher rate of escapement replacements over the years than conventional movements would, I suspect.

>>14225788
>Why do they have them at all then? Why not just laser cut and be done with it?
Because the timing rates of mechanical escapements do not tend to remain constant over time. Changes, both in overall timing performance and in relative rates in different positions, can crop up over time due to a variety of factors.

>>14225823
>So basically that anon from the last thread who was all proud of the power reserve of his Longines poor-man's-Seamaster shitter has an extremely fragile movement?
I wouldn't say "extremely", but yes, I would expect there to be a non-trivially elevated risk of the whole escapement needing to be replaced when the watch is serviced, but on the plus side, those escapements are much cheaper to make for Swatch than a conventional regulated balance, so if you are paying Swatch Group rates for servicing they'll have no qualms with replacing the whole escapement if necessary.

That said, I'd personally take a conventional 2892-A2 Elabore over the new escapement, particularly at this relatively early stage when this new style of escapement hasn't been in the wild long enough to really show that they can survive long term wear and servicing without needing to be replaced too frequently.

>>14225419
Free sprung is SUPERIOR. Regulated movements chew up the hairspring. Free sprung doesn't chew up the hairspring and more stable over long periods of time.

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>>14225842
Regulated balance movements do not "chew up" the hairspring, and free sprung balances tend to have greater rate stability over long periods of time for other reasons. Also, there has been a long discussion in this thread already of the ways in which Powermatic-80 style escapements differ in important ways from true free sprung balances.

>>14225853
I wasn't referring to the Powermatic 80 but ok.

>>14225830
>standard version of that movement uses a plastic escapement much more likely to exhibit sizable drift in timing performance and positional variance over time than the metal escapement versions
Mechanical engineer here, plastic is more desirable in many cases over metal for parts that experience mechanical stress precisely due to the fact that it's "plastic" in a mechanical engineering sense in that it does not permanently deform. As for the powermatic 80 I have no idea if its a good movement. Generally you get what you pay for and if its a cheaper movement its probably worse.

got this in the mail today. not bad, but this watch feels alot lower quality than I would have thought. Maybe ive just gotten used to my higher end watches (not the tag pictured). not a bad looking watch though. I was hoping the dial would be more white than silver, but im not mad at it.

>>14225864
It would look great if it weren't so fucking stupid huge

>>14225856
In general, free sprung balance wheels display greater rate stability over the time between services for two related reasons. Firstly because regulated balances use regulating pins on either side of the outer coil of the hairspring to change its effective length, the hairspring touches the outer and inner pin. As the lubricants age between services the amount of energy the balance wheel swings with tends to decrease over the years between services, and this changes how the hairspring interacts with the regulating pins in a way that changes the timing rate. This effects is magnified because that method of regulation causes more positional variance than free sprung balances normally experience, since gravity changes how the hairspring interacts with the pins in various positions. The reduced energy of the escapement over time tends to amplify that effect on the rates.

So, yes, free sprung balance wheels tend to show less rate drift over time, but no, its not because regulated balances "chew up" the hairspring.

>>14225862
The problem with plastic in an escapement is not deformation but rather mechanical wear. A traditional escapement uses synthetic rubies for the pallet forks and steel for the escape wheel. When properly lubricated, such an arrangement experiences very little abrasive wear between services.

Plastics used in these roles experience significantly more abrasive wear and as they wear the parts change shape slightly and thus the behaviour of the whole escapement will tend to change.

>>14225883
Plastic escapements are self-lubricating. It's not just some plastic plastic, they developed it.

>>14225867
meh its like 42mm, a bit bigger than I like but its definitely wearable (although I definitely wouldnt go bigger than this). I generally agree tho. would look better if it were a bit smaller.

Note: the shitty tag in the pic is from the 90s and is only like 37-38mm so makes the watch look bigger than it actually is on my relatively small wrist

>>14225883
As a watchmaker I have noticed quite a few mangled hairsprings around the regulating pins of regulated movements. Likely due to shocks that cause the hairspring to collide with the regulating pins.

>>14225862
The plastic part of these movements is a pretty low stress area so people just make a mountain out of a molehill

they could make the whole movement out of plastic and it would likely be just fine.

>>14225890
should have got the no-date hand-wind field watch instead.

>>14225896
Correct about the molehill, even the Speedmaster has a plastic lever.

>>14225883
>Plastics used in these roles experience significantly more abrasive
Most escapements (I assume so does the powermatic 80) design the pallet stones or in this case the plastic escapement to have no lateral motion against the escapement wheel, in which case there is no abrasion due to friction. Any abrasion due to impact orthogonal to the surface would be minimal in any mechanical engineering scenario.

Is there any reason batman or coke bezels arent more common? I dont think Seiko do them at all? Everyone seems to make a black, blue and pepsi and call it a day.

>>14225891
It's certainly true that regulated balance movements are more prone to suffering hairspring damage from shocks, but that wasn't the claim that was being made by the other poster.

But yes, if you want to be able to use a mechanical watch in environments where it may be subject to hard shocks either pick a cheap one you consider disposable, or go for a sports watch with a robustly designed free sprung balance.

So is there a reason to buy expensive watches that mostly look the same? I know people who spend tons on watches but at a distance/glance they all are pretty much the same appearance. Why not just get one of each style?

>>14225905
>but that wasn't the claim that was being made by the other poster.
Um no.. thats exactly what I meant.

>>14225864
Nice clock.

>>14225896
>The plastic part of these movements is a pretty low stress area
The pallet forks and escape wheel are a low stress area in a mechanical watch movement? That's certainly news to me.

>>14225899
>the Speedmaster has a plastic lever.
Not in the driveline.

>>14225901
Conventional pallet forks interacting with escape wheels always have sliding friction. Indeed, the co-axial escapement was specifically designed to try and eliminate that very issue with conventional escapements. As such, using plastic in this area is going to be a long term wear issue.

Not that it matters, since Swatch throws out and replaces Powermatic-80 movements when they get them in for service since a complete movement is cheaper than the watchmaker's labour to service the thing.

>>14225912
Then you should have mentioned shocks specifically rather than rate drift over the years between services. Damage to the hairspring should not occur with a regulated balance under normal operating conditions.

>>14225545
Ok.. but it still seems like they are better than a 2824? It's just a poor mans free-sprung balance, still seems like a massive improvement over the 2824. I don't even own a mechanical watch (I only have TC quartz watches) but this stuff interests me. It seems like there's a lot of disdain for the powermatic 80 for few logical reasons. On paper it's a huge improvement over the 2824.

Bell and Rose Function Watch

>>14225913
i honestly love /wt/. its nice to know there are still places on the internet where ppl are brutally honest. Whenever I end up on other sites **cough**reddit**cough** everyone loves every watch posted on there. "omg the 30th skx posted today! so beautiful wowowo"

its so fucking lame. thanks for the honesty anon. dont change

>>14225920
>Not that it matters, since Swatch throws out and replaces Powermatic-80 movements when they get them in for service since a complete movement is cheaper than the watchmaker's labour to service the thing.
They should do this for 2824 watches please. I want a new movement when I get my 2824s serviced. They're cheaper than powermatic 80s anyways.

>>14225963
Nah, /wt/ sucks Seiko's cock and it's completely filled with fat Söyko weebs.<div class="like-perk-cnt"><div style="text-align:right"><img alt="" width="32" height="32" src="//s.4cdn.org/image/temp/verified.png"></div></div>

>>14226033
Exhibit 1

>>14226036
Exhibit 2

>>14226033
Stay mad that your Longines was a waste of cash. If you are getting mass produced you better get Seiko as its actually built well.

>>14226053
I'm not the Longines poster, I even critiqued it in the previous thread. Just posting some fatasses of /wt/

>>14226036
Another of this overweight fatass.

Do weight fluctuations affect the wrist size or is it like your skull circumference?

>>14226084
Wrist size is mostly genetic bone structure but if you’re a sufficiently fat fuck your wrists will get bigger.

>>14226033
pussy wtf did you say about my seikos? ill fucking kill u

>>14226046
Kek
Thank God this never happened to me, you'd get more horror than some tubby nude guy

>>14226068
Imagine being so obsessed with shitting up /wt/ that you save other poster's wrist shots long term to use them to shitpost. How sad.

>>14226151
Only subhumans have that much arm hair. Closer to apes than a man. Faggot.

>>14226158
I just went on warosu now. Don’t fucking flatter yourself fatass.

>>14226162
At least could have chosen a more recent pic on the newer leather strap. It suits the case much better.

>>14226151
stop cosplaying as (You)r dad
sucker

>>14226167
Still overweight.

>>14226156
Opsec. Got to watch out for those reflections.

>>14226160
kek imagine being this inane

>>14226179
bitch both my dads wear apple watches. theyre both little faggots.
they wish they had this many steel seiko S T U N N E R S

>>14226167
desu i was gonna make fun of you, but after seeing how weird my hand looks here I cant. >>14226151

Imagine having hands like this.

>>14226196
4chan is filled with overweight weebs, pic is /k/‘s meetup. /fa/ is a small exception but some /wt/ posters are neckbeards from /g/.

>>14226207
is this merrica?

>>14226207
Holy fuck that looks like a dangerous place to hang out. Fuck me.

>>14226218
You betcha.
>>14226223
“What the fuck did you say about my waifu bitch?”

>>14226207
Fatty 2nd from left looks like he want to make a high score

>>14226196
Imagine this fat ass trying to regulate his watch, sausage fingers can’t grip the screwdriver properly. Tries to turn a screw head but his sugar-induced palpitations causes his fingers to slip and he jams it into the balance spring instead. Lmao.

>>14226207
This is exactly how I imagine /wt/ would be except they all wear Seiko and Casio.

>>14226250
One guy blathering about watches for honourable men, another wearing 10 F91Ws on his wrist, an autist in the corner who keeps shouting anglage, Dufour, Grand Seiko but he doesn’t own any watches at all, tudorfag wiping his Vostok with sandpaper, etc

>>14225394
If you know a good watchmaker go for it. They're aesthetically perfect.

After reading about powermatic 80 in this and the last thread I'm a bit wary of it. I've been wanting a hamilton khaki mechanical for a while but I'm waiting for their new release with the 80 hour power reserve this summer.
That's probably a bad idea right? Might as well order the one with eta 2804 now.

>>14226398
Most of the arguments were not logical though. Lower beat rate doesn't mean less accurate. The powermatics are just as COSC certifiable as 2824s. Even standard grade 2824s are COSC certifiable. 80 hour power reserve, arcap alloy plates, no iron in the movement, and a silicon hairspring, just makes it straight up better than the 2824. I think people here are just wary of technology in general (laser ablation adjustment). They want their watch to be repaired by hand because they think that makes them special somehow, even though the 2824s are cheap enough that it makes more economic sense to just throw out the movement and replace with a new one for service. It's a $190 movement, the powermatic 80 is even more expensive than the 2824.

>>14226429
Your local watchmaker can regulate a 2824 for free or a very small fee. Can't say the same about the powermatic 80 though.

>>14226441
Powermatic 80 is free sprung, you don't need to regulate it before it needs servicing. And if what other people say is true that they replace the movement when they service it then great, you get a new movement with factory regulation, which is way better than what you would get from a local watchmaker. Same can be said for the 2824, you don't need to regulate it before it needs servicing, at which point its more economical to just replace the movement. But watchmakers make more money off repairs, not replacing movements.

Numales are a laugh
https://youtu.be/4pnjme1PSBk

>>14226429
If anything my main gripe with the powermatic 80 is that they didn't use the slightly more expensive, slightly better(??) incabloc shock protection spring.

Did anyone else get the storm chaser pro when it was on sale for $1300? I can't believe how good of a deal this was. Was amazed that the links in the bracelet used screw in pins. The tritium lume is dope too.

>>14226480
Also how the fuck did they afford to put a top grade 7750 in a $1300 watch?

>>14226473
Are you saying kif is bad?

You faggots meme about shit. Here’s Lange using KIF elastor on their latest 25th Anniversary Lange 1 from SIHH 2019. Muh kif!!! Shut the fuck up.

>>14226493
Patek, AP, VC all used this JLC 920 ebauche. And would you look at that, a KIF elastor.

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>>14226493
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>>14226519
MUH KIF right?

Morning, faggots.

>>14226480
Why not just get a random $300 fashion quartz chronograph? This just looks stupid and it's too expensive.

>>14226641
Good morning frogman.

getting anything between the price-range of seiko and rolex is onions

Got this beauty as a gift for my gf. What do you guys think?

>>14226651
I'm not a Frenchie, cunt.

>>14226676
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frogman

>>14226664
Your gf was too cheap to buy you even a Casio.
What does that tell you?

all memes aside does anything honestly beat seiko in the $500 range?

>>14226690
Not wearing a watch is better on that price range

>>14226698
fuck off archie

>>14226689
It looks as nice as a casio and isn't worse functionality wise. Casios are cool, don't get me wrong, but if you're buying a basic one without tough solar or atomic clock functionality a skmei is just as good.

>>14226689
also I couldn't find a nice looking casio in rose gold. The skmei actually looked better than any casio I saw. Find a nicer casio in rose gold.

what a fucking joke

>>14226748
Why?

>>14226750
the price of that reddit watch

>>14226755
Is it out of your price range now?

Can you custom order a sapphire crystal?

>>14226750
Because it's discontinued.

>>14226759
I was asking why it's "a fucking joke".

>>14226748
>is surprised at the price hike of watch that was always popular and is now discontinued
>pretends not to like it by calling it a "Reddit watch"
>still cares about it enough to get mad

This is a fantastic combination of retardation, projection, jealousy, butthurt, and poorfaggotry.
And probably more.

>>14226763
Because being discontinued makes it hilariously overpriced?

post archies

>>14226775
See >>14226768

>>14226664
Holy shit, if you are going to wear a casio homage pls cut your wrist

i have this strange longines fetish ... i want a longines below $1000 at all cost, but the conquest is hideous

>>14225506
>>14225506
>>14225506
in need of assistance lads

>>14226207
reminder that at one of the /k/ meetups someone baked their semen into something, took it to the meetup, then the day after posted proof

>>14226480
Didn't hear a damn thing about it

Are you having a nice day today? I am! Best of luck in all your endevours anon!

>>14226521
Aren't those watches just about the finishing and have nothing to do with engineering or efficiency like Seiko, Rolex, or those wacky new Zenith movements?

>>14225506
Nick mankey's hook strap is a new elastic fabric strap with a system that doesn't go under the watch, the colours are pretty autistic but I think if you get a white or grey one, would look good on that. Otherwise just get some leather hirsch Buffalo or forest

>>14226889
I like the look of the Nick Mankey straps, I'll pick one of them up

>>14226736
Except it had a shitty viewing angle because module is ultra cheap.
Get elektronika instead.

>>14225412
Looks like some kind of custom modification

>>14226916
Does elektronika make a fine ladies watch in rose gold color?

>>14226916
I can't tell if people posting these cheap as fuck ugly watches are trolling or honestly think we care about their trash?

What do you guys think of my parnis? Personally, I think it's the nicest watch I own. The shape of the case and the pattern on the dial makes it a very subtle and amusing little piece despite it's simplicity. Though I would more like the blue dial version which, sadly doesn't come on the SS.

>>14227012
You're welcome to fuck off, nigger.

>>14227055
Is that you mom?

>>14227055
not a fan tbqh, anon, i dislike both the thick bezel and the cheap-looking dial pattern

>>14227076
I was just walking /out/, it was warm and sunny, so I decided to undress, lay down on them and catch some rays so I produce some vitamin D, while I shitpost.
You got a problem with that?
>>14227088
Well the bright lighting might have done it a disservice. Here's another pic in a darker environment.

>>14227109
Good god that watch is hideous, I sincerely hope that isn't actually you

>>14227109
> while I shitpost
thanks captain obvious, we noticed.

>snk809 stated power reserve 40 hours
>wear it for hours
>put it down
>dies about 16 hours later

>>14225755
Swatch maybe?

I want a turtle but I'm a bit austistic about bezel and dial alignment. Is there an online shop that will check the alignment for you? I live in the sticks and the closest watch shop that carries the model is 6 hours away.

>>14226223

I think a few meetups ago one of them walked through the line of fire on the range while they were actively using it.

They also have a designated trap, just like the /o/ meetups.

I just buy reps

>>14226875

No, I can't find my god damn glasses.

>>14227197
> They also have a designated trap, just like the /o/ meetups.
Poor guy

does anyone recognie this brand? my friend got it from his grandpa and it's probably from USSR

>>14227217
Luch 2209

Contacted two watchmakers enquiring about regulation of the eta 2892.a2 both said easy, no problem despite the adjustment being the eccentric weights. One also said the chance of error over time was less than cheap movements with regulating arms due to better shock resistance particularly with incabloc used in this Longines movement.

Longines said a full service on this movement would be £280 with free shipping, again regulation included and not a movement replacement.

Why is /wt/ so slow now?

>>14227605
The autism as dropped.

Going bird-watching with gramps.

>>14227605
/fa/ is slower than /g/<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x1F494;</div>

Lmao, this is the Grand Seiko you weebs rave about? It doesn't even have any fucking anglage. A basic 6497 looks better than this.

>>14227700
BUT BRO, IT'S BETTER THAN LANGE, PATEK, VC, AND THE REST OF THE SWISS BRO.

>>14227706
BRO, DUFOUR BRO HE COMPLIMENTED GRAND SEIKO BRO. IT'S TOP TIER BRO.

>>14227700
>>14227706
>>14227718
Here's a basic bitch Unitas for comparison. "Grand Seiko" lol.

Post watches fit for honorable men who believe in a worthy cause.

Lange? BTFO. Patek? BTFO. Vacheron? BTFO. Audemars? BTFO. BRO. GRAAAAAND SEIKO BRO.

What's the cheapest HAQ? Something on the smaller side with classic design would be preferable. I'm tired of automatics at the moment.

Trust me on this bro. Grand Seiko is superior to Lange bro. I know it looks like a basic bitch Unitas but bro, it's GRAND bro.

>>14227809
Chill out bro. We all know you are right but you'll never convinced the single autistic macro anon so stop posting. It's a waste of effort.

What cuck shit is this? Whoring out your gf?

ITS UP FUCKERS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiMpDgnzU_M

>>14227862
Poor reviewer with delusions of grandeur. The watch world would be better off if he had stayed banned for being a lying cunt.

>>14227874
SEETHING

>>14227884
never seen his videos before but got recommended one last night but good god his desk is a mess

>>14227662

Been thinking about getting into birdwatching. Seems lit af DESU

I have a pair of nice binoculars but idk where or how to start

>>14227789

https://www.seiyajapan.com/collections/seiko/products/seiko-dolce-quartz-sacm171

>>14227840

Wouldn't you? Look at those milkers

>>14227917
Nah.

>>14227862
>Nothing worse than a 55mm gray market wooden Franken Watch that was stolen and cleverly converted into a fake vintage Rolex and then sold on eBay at AD pricing.

>...and then Hodinkee commissions the maker to produce 2500 of them, calls them limited editions, and sells them for well above their actual value;-)

kek'd

>>14227915
>33.5mm
Still not sure about this. Would instabuy if it's 36mm.

Instead of watching some slimy delusional YouTuber, watch this JCB interview instead. Hear his thoughts on Baselworld 2019. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYQ7kj5mVww

There's a reason why he has Van Goghs in house.

>>14227973
>There's a reason why he has Van Goghs in house.
Because he's gay?

>>14227809
>>14227818
>talking to yourself

>>14228009
Sure.

>>14228017
>thinking this proves anything
cute

>>14228019
Ok.

Anyone buy from Tisell directly? I bought a flieger from a european distributor (at a markup, but worst korea was out of stock for the particular model), but they dont have the 40mm deck watch currently.

>>14228032
I didn't think these Asian brands sold to the West directly
At most they have a T-Mall store that allows shipping to parcel forwarding services

>>14227973
JCB is an amazing guy and knows a fucking huge amount about watches and the industry. That makes it a crying shame he's stuck at Hublot.

>>14227973
> "We don't sell a watch to look at what time it is. We sell a watch so you look *at* the watch. You should look at the watch because the watch is just beautiful, it’s design, it’s art, it’s tradition and it is part of our culture. Fucking shit don't look what time it is. You have a phone for that."

Godly words. Telling it how it is.

Where's the best place to buy a vostok?

>>14228103
Only shameful part is Hublot's association with blacks.
>>14228106
Very powerful, first time I heard him swear.

Is it wrong that I appreciate Rolex and GS just a little more every time someone goes on a shitposting spree trying to make them look bad?

>>14228115
Rolex are underrated by many here.
GS are overrated by certain posters here.

Both are very good brands for what they are.

>>14228114
> Only shameful part is Hublot's association with blacks.
The problem with Hublot is they are ugly as fuck.

>>14228131
>Rolex are underrated by many here.
>GS are overrated by certain posters here.
So it's the opposite of how it is among normies.

>>14228155
I just did a google image search for Hublot and they look like your random $300 fashion quartz watches. And that idiot is boasting about how you're supposed to "look at it", lol. Maybe if you leave the price tag on.

>>14228032
Yep, just order from the Korean web page. Watch out for customs

>>14228172
Maybe for GS but normies love Rolex. The people who start getting into watches look down at Rolex as they think they know better. Then when you really understand watches you learn to re-appreciate Rolex.

>>14228174
Idiot? What have you achieved to call Jean-Claude fucking Biver an idiot?

>>14228179
>normies love Rolex
That's what I was saying.

Cute! CUTE!

>>14228184
Can you namefag so I can fucking filter you?

>>14227563
Based on that I really don't know if they made the movement like that to improve the watch or cut corners... Its not like a normal regulator is an expensive addition to a watch. $50 movements have them so they must have gone with that version of the eta for a reason?

>>14228180
>hurr durr what have you achieved to tell alexander to get out of your sun diogenes

>>14228131
>Rolex are underrated by many here.
Not just here. It's actually really common.

>Rolex is the nice watch for people who don't know about watches
>Their designs are so boring
>Their movements are so plain-looking
>They never evolve
>They're ridiculously overpriced

Then, as collectors get a little more informed they realize that the movements are actually pretty high tech. Their designs do evolve, but carefully and incrementally. Their huge resale value means they're actually pretty reasonable buys.

Obviously the Rolex-only-and-nothing-but guys are annoying but so are the guys who deliberately overlook Rolex when they must have been pretty good to get where they are.

>>14228188
I guess the guy who bought Blancpain for 22k CHF, turned it around, built it up, and sold it for 60M CHF is an idiot who knows nothing about watches at all.

>>14228192
Steel sport Rolexes are probably the hottest watches around, what the fuck are you yapping about.

>>14228184
nice Amphibia knockoff

>>14228191
Not him but WaTcHeS ArE NoT An iNvEnTmEnT YoU MuSt bE PoOr aS FuCk iF YoU ThInK ThAt.
Price is in CHF.

>>14228196
Get off /wt/, get out into the real world and start talking IRL to actual watch collectors and you find TONS of guys who just can't get into Rolex. That greentext is the reasons they always give.

They all come around eventually.

>>14228193
He knows a lot about business, but that example pretty much does illustrate how he knows nothing about watches.
Blancpain is an expensive shitter company that utterly shits all over the legacy of its brand.

>>14228198
lol, if you'e wealthy enough, watches actually can be an "inventment".

>>14228200
You're an idiot.
Rolexes proportionally have the most collectible catalog in the entire watch world.

>>14228202
Didn't bother correcting. Just copy-pasted it into a dumb text generator.

>>14228205
Did you even read his post or did you just skip straight to the part where you get triggered? >>14228192

>>14228201
I agree. This small part of his collection shows HE KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT WATCHES.

>>14228200
Don't worry, breh. we know what you mean. He can't afford a Rolex anyway.

>>14228208
Nothing you yap about changes the fact that Rolexes are the hottest, most collectible brand in the world of watches.

>>14228210
Should have got the no-date version.

Why did they put "Khaki" on the dial? Such a stupid name for a watch. "Khaki" is trousers, not a timepiece.

>>14228209
Anyone who turned BP into what it is today is a blight on the watch world.

>>14228212
you sound black? are you black?

>>14228217
He left Blancpain in 2003 after he sold it you mong.

>>14228222
Was Blancpain in 2003 very different from how it is today?

>>14228219
you sound poor. are you poor?

>>14228198
source for that chart pls

>>14228192
>it's actually really common for Rolex to be underrated
... he says unironically about THE most coveted and recognizable watch brand of the past half century.
Hell, one of the most recognizable luxury brands, period.

>>14228228
How you perceive Blancpain is irrelevant to the fact that JCB is not a bloody idiot.

>>14228219
>Responding to blacks

>>14228233
https://www.watchpricetrend.com/Patek+Philippe_Nautilus_5711+1A-010_month-14.html, grouped by month.

Anons, which watch brands depreciate the least? And stats or source if u can pls

Interesting.

>>14228235
He turned Blancpain from the oldest operating watchmaker into "Rolex but all the watches are dinner plate-sized".
And he also turned Omega, Hublot, and Tag Heuer into what they are today.

This man is the antithesis to everything I like about high-end watches.

>>14228242
Rolex and Patek by a mile.

Here's a quick rundown.
https://www.watchtime.com/blog/fratello-friday-which-watch-brands-are-most-likely-to-increase-in-value/

>>14228192
So....Rolex is the Porsche of the watch world.

>>14228250
>This man is the antithesis to everything I like about high-end watches.
What DO you like about high end watches?

>>14228250
Blancpain was dead. He brought it back.
>everything I like
No one cares about your opinion bruv as it doesn't matter.

>>14228250
Patek and Rolex pieces hold their and increase their values quite well.

>>14228242
Patek and Rolex pieces hold their and increase their values quite well.

>>14228257
>Blancpain was dead. He brought it back.
No, he whored out its corpse.

Only brainless richfags buy BP or Hublot.
Omega is very slightly better, but that is despite Biver's best attempts at wringing out every ounce of credibility the brand had (see the millions of moonwatch special editions).

>>14228254
Neither Rolex nor Porsche are underrated.

>>14228209
These all look like the same watch lol.

>>14228271
no, but they're regularly dismissed as being basic as fuck.

>>14228257
The only reason I would ever buy a Blancpain is because they saved the GT1 racing series.

What's the cheapest Rolex that you can impress normies with?

>>14228254
Yes, both are so underrated that they're consistently collectible to the point of being investment-grade.

>>14228254
don't compare rolex to porsche you unwashed schmuck

>>14228272
Only reason that is, is because he forgot he was shooting with Hodinkee that day and didn't actually take out his collection from the bank safe. That's JUST what he just had laying around in his home.

>>14228280
I think you're mistaking "underrated" for "overvalued", which is on you.

>>14228278
A Chinese fake

>>14228256
Whatever today's Blancpain, Tag Heuer, and Hublot are not.

>>14228278
Literally anything that says Rolex on the dial.
Normies haven't cared about watches in over 20 years.

>>14228281
Agreed, Rolex has plenty of competition that outpace it tenfold in all fields.

>>14228289
Value (especially resale value) literally comes from how highly rated you are.

>>14228240
Thanks anon.

My favorite Rolex is the Turn-o-graph. Is that stupid?

>>14228303
Nope. I love mine, it's worth at least twice what I paid for it.

>>14228308
that's not a Turn-o-graph. ToG's have a rotating bezel with 10-minute increments marked off.
In the US they're called Thunderbirds.

>>14228257
>No one cares about your opinion
Except everyone who looked into watches for longer than 5 minutes shits on Tag Heuer, Hublot, and Blancpain. They're laughing stocks. Omega too, but to a lesser extent.

>>14228210
So close, but the date window ruins it.

>>14228303
Nope. They're one of the hidden gems in the Rolex lineup. They never quite get the love they deserve.

>>14228278
A good replica, normies will be none the wiser

>>14228339
That looks terrible

>>14228347
lets see yours.

>>14228339
What an abomination, chuck it in the bin.

>>14228341
>>14228293
>>14228290
Every normie knows about fake Rolexes though, it's the only brand that they ask if it's fake or not. I don't think they even know that other brands have fakes too.

>>14228339
Put it on an Oyster bracelet. Jubilee bracelets are for faggots.

>>14228365
There are even Seiko 5 fakes.

Any reasons why I should buy a Rolex over a GS? Have $6k to spend and I don't have any watches from either brands.

I am interested in pic related

>>14228365
>hey brah is that fake?
>no brah it isn't lmao lol
Done

>>14228367
Hmmm, now I'm beginning to doubt my Seiko 4.

>>14228369
>Any reasons why I should buy a Rolex over a GS?
Brand recognition

>>14228350
No

>>14228369
The movement finishing on that is the same as a Unitas. Just look at these: >>14227700 >>14227706 >>14227718 >>14227748 >>14227731 >>14227809

>>14228369
Go check them out in person. That should help you decide.

>>14228369
View the watches in person before you make your decision. GS often don't look in reality what they look like in pictures.

But in the end its your money, buy whatever you like if you have no plans to resell it.

>>14228382
>>14228383
Most watch enthusiasts have social anxiety, don't recommend viewing watches in person before they confirm they're comfortable with that.

>>14228383
>>14228382
>>14228379
>>14228374
Thank you friends

New thread:

>>14228380
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>>14228388
rape

>>14228388
>Most watch enthusiasts have social anxiety
Stop projecting your own insecurities because that's simply not true. Though I admit posters on 4chan are probably not a good cross section of normal society.

put an endmill strapcode bracelet on this shitter. It sucks not having proper endlink and a different finish than the case, but it feels so much better than the stock one

>>14227563
>Contacted two watchmakers enquiring about regulation of the eta 2892.a2 both said easy, no problem despite the adjustment being the eccentric weights.
The ETA 2892-A2 does not have the Powermatic-80 style escapement, so if you had inquired with watchmakers about the 2892 you would not have received answers mentioning eccentric weights, since the 2892-A2 does not use eccentric weights.

>One also said the chance of error over time was less than cheap movements with regulating arms due to better shock resistance particularly with incabloc used in this Longines movement.
Well, that watchmaker really doesn't appear to understand the difference between regulation and adjustment, so I wouldn't take his word on any chronometric topics very seriously.

>Longines said a full service on this movement would be £280 with free shipping, again regulation included and not a movement replacement.
Regulation is not the same thing as adjustment, and for the price they are charging for services they'd have no trouble covering replacing the escapement in its entirety rather than spending a watchmakers labour on fiddling with it.

>>14228603
I am paraphrasing.
But this is >>14225419
a picture of my 2892a2 as a longines L619/888.2 non COSC. The inertia weights seem to be present yes?

>>14227700
On mechanical Grand Seiko movements the labour is mostly in areas that enhance its chronometric functioning rather than in decoration.

GS does a lot of functional finishing on movement components, such as polishing every single gear tooth on the entire movement using a hand operated polishing machine, and they do extensive hand adjustment on their escapements to optimize their timing performance.

This approach has been consistent with high end production watch movements made by Seiko Instruments (formerly Daini Seikosha) since the 1960s. They reserve labour intensive decorative movement finishing techniques for haute horlogerie pieces.

>>14228209
No, his collection shows he *does* know about horology, and thus his entire commercial approach to the watch industry is driven by pure cynicism and greed. The divergence between what he collects and what he pushes the brand's he runs to become damns him.

>>14228379
Ah yes, since as we all know Rolex are known for their intricate decorative movement finishing...oh wait.

>>14228369
>Any reasons why I should buy a Rolex over a GS?
If you are deciding based on the objective merits, both brands have strengths and weaknesses and you should pick with ever model speaks to you the most.

If you care about brand recognition and social cachet, buy the Rolex.

>>14228614
Yes. I disagree with the watchmakers you asked, and I'd personally prefer a 2892-A2 with the conventional escapement, but if you plan to send it to Longines for service and don't care about them replacing parts at every service, it won't end up making a difference to you, so don't worry about it.

>>14228187
The money in a regulated balance is mostly in the adjustment of the balance to achieve the desired level of accuracy, which requires the skilled labour of a watchmaker.

A Powermatic-80 style balance is much cheaper to make because it requires much less skilled labour to adjust and regulate at the factory.

Weak gay onions boy numale /fa/g reporting in.

>>14228634
This

>>14228983
Wew, you really bought it, i thought the longaynes posts were pure shilling. Well, i was wrong. I like the dial even the retardedly large numbers look good, but damn, they are asking almost a 1K for an ETA diver.

>>14227181
why? fucking seiko.

Is it faggy to wear one watch at work and at the gym and another at other times?

>>14229890
Not at all, I wouldn't wear a Patek at the gym or something like that