/fa/ - Fashion

first for deep

Big booty bitches with tiny buttholes

>>14212000
Post watches fit for honorable men who believe in a worthy cause.

>>14212000
Good choice on the watch OP and bonus points for finding a great picture of the vintage version.

>>14212008
>those bracelet/end link tolerances
damn

>>14212014
You are pathetic.

>>14212014
Seiko “Tribute to Ben 10” Edition.

>>14212014

Looking for a daily beater/travel watch, no more than $1500. Brand recognition matters to me.

Tag or Longines?

>>14212029
Does it really count as a Ben 10 tribute when they just used a wristlet model? Shouldn't this >>14212008 fit the bill better or a Landmaster?

>>14212033
tag
my psudeoboomer parents both have tags

>>14212033
The Longines Heritage Diver an anon got for 1400€ looked real nice.

>>14212033
Tag was very dated but is seeing an uptick in interest in the last few years especially in their vintage watches. Longines hasn't been relevant for decades.

>>14212035
>>14212038
Already have a diver, would like something a little different... I like the look of the Carrera Chronographs but they use super fat movements and that rules it out for me. I tried one and it felt like carrying a brick on my wrist.

>>14212033
TAG Heuer is a well established, respected brand for people like myself who cannot afford the "real" high end brands.

>>14212046
Bro I have an IWC and Omega.

>>14212048
Bro, get a TAG next

>>14212046
Why larp owning a shit watch you found posted on Reddit?

>>14212014
Look into getting the 1964 Carrera re-editions. I personally really like the white-dialed one. I think they're around 2k+/-, It's nice and slim and it's 36mm.

>>14212051
>Why larp owning a shit watch you found posted on Reddit?
P E R T H
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>>14212050
I want a beater, something I don't need to worry about getting bruised or even stolen.

Longines are a bit cheaper than Tags but their models are confusing as hell. Are their chronographs any good?

why is the average /r/watches poster 10x richer than the average /wt/ poster?

>>14212054
The TAG chronograph is good

>>14212033
If the only thing that matters is the name get a vintage omega

>>14212052
>it's 36mm.
Fuuuuuuuuck that's small man. I'm looking 38 to 41mm

>>14212051
>Why larp owning a shit watch you found posted on Reddit?
Just had to post about my new watch, I hope it's /fa/! I'm absolutely in love with this 18 carat, rose gold TAG Heuer Carrera watch purchased from the beautiful city of Perth. Made with sapphire infused glass that only diamond can scratch, I've spoiled myself with this gorgeous timepiece. The calibre 16 movement has been crowned as the most successful automatic chronograph movement ever produced, completely handmade by man. It is also my very first day date watch and it will be interesting to see if it becomes an important feature that Will depend on over time. I hope you all enjoy this watch as much as I do! And now for your regularly scheduled thread!

>>14212059
It's really not. It's also the same size as the original carrera.

>>14212055
because they try to pass off fakes

>>14212059
Wouldn't say so. Also, my mistake. It's 43mm lug to lug.

>>14212055
reddit watches is a replica board

>>14212070
Nice TAG! what a great company

What a fine watch!

>>14212070
35,5mm* and 43mm lug to lug.

>>14212070
>>14212070
>43mm lug to lug

>>14212059
>Fuuuuuuuuck that's small man.
that's what she said

what the fuck is GS doing moving into AP/Patek price range?
like who do they think is going to buy them?

>>14212092
GS is literally a better watch than AP/Patek in every measurable way

can you polish gold?

is there forged gold?

>>14212103
Is water wet?

>>14212097

>>14212106
depends on temperature and ambient pressure

>>14212092
The ones that do go into that range have every reason to be, considering the work that goes into the dials, cases, movements.

GS still makes "cheap" models, and when you compare those with the new "expensive" ones, you can clearly tell where the additional price comes from.

Can someone recc a watch style for bearded bald dudes? I work an office job and I don't think the casio is gonna cut it anymore in the aesthetics department. Looking about 100-200 GBP, wrist size in the range of 6.5'

>>14212092
>who do they think is going to buy them?
The people who buy AP/Patek, but with slit eyes.

>>14212115
>Can someone recc a watch style for bearded bald dudes? I work an office job and I don't think the casio is gonna cut it anymore in the aesthetics department. Looking about 100-200 GBP, wrist size in the range of 6.5'

>>14212115
> £100-200
see a fashion watch you like the look of
buy it
there's nothing else to do at that price point.

>>14212120
imgur.com/a/NFMXDuK
Tissot le loche for u

nice starter pack meme now can you help?

>>14212137
Just find a watch you like, there is no "good" watch at the low price you are talking about. Post watchs you like

how fat are you?

>every watch I want has doubled in price in the last few years now that I have money
fucking why

>>14212137
MODS

>>14212130
Fair enough I knew I wasn't gonna get anything fancy but that's why I'm here. What's the least shittiest fashion watches? The one thing I know about watches is that you should avoid ones made by clothing brands

>>14212145

>>14212115
Orient Mako or a Timex Marlin

>>14212147
depends on how fat you are

>>14212153
got a gut but you can't tell unless my shirts tucked in. Been gradually losing weight over the last couple months so hope to lose it soon. Shall we say middle of the road? not scrawny/skinny but not like huge beer gut man tiddies

>>14212158
The thing is it does not matter what $200 watch a fat bald guy wears. Wear whatever you want, you don't look good so get what you like

>>14212151
Think I prefer the Orient. Thanks for the help anon :)

>>14212159
Thank you Alpha-chan

>>14212169
>Thank you Alpha-chan
np

>>14212147
Skagen

is this now TAG HOYER thread?

>>14212214
Tag did make one good model, this one where you can have an indicator the windyknob is screwed in tightly

>>14212214
>TAG HOYER
they copied seiko where it counts

>>14212149

>>14212261
>they copied seiko where it counts
I like how you can tell when the windyknob is screwed all the way down so water does not get in

^_^

>>14212033
Quartz Omega Seamaster

>>14212301
>Quartz
>Seamaster

>>14212305
Dude wants a daily travel shitter with brand recognition, what could be better?

>>14212301
>Quartz Omega Seamaster
Funny you say that, just bought this mislisted one, what do you think /wt/?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Omega-Seamaster-Aqua-Terra-Quartz-2518-50-00-Wrist-Watch-for-Men-/303102437850?_trksid=p2349526.m4383.l10137.c10&nordt=true&rt=nc&orig_cvip=true

>>14212312
Honestly it's not a bad recommendation, I just would not want one. you are not wrong. To me it would be like buying an electric ferrari

>>14212312
Omega quartz movements are particularly nice because the hour can be adjusted without stopping the movement.
Makes it real easy to jump between timezones and/or DST.

>>14212312
TAG and Omega are tuna can boomer shitters.

Longines may be shitters but at least they have thin options that look /fa/

>>14212333
>TAG and Omega are tuna can boomer shitters.
trips of truth, but that's what he wants, some brand some normie boomer would know

TAG is a joke, particularly horrible in all modern variations. Omegas are OK but there are better watches for the price

>>14212317
YOU CHEEKY CUNT

>>14212312
>>14212301
this is actually the best recommendation for the brand whore

Does anyone here work on watches anymore? Could I make a profitable hobby by fixing up old watches and selling them on ebay?

I want a quartz tritium watch, is this OK? what else should I look at?

>>14212365

>be vintage-cock-sucking larper
>decide to get a watch
>know absolutely nothing
>see pic related
>instantly fall in love
>pay 200€
>while waiting for delivery, lurk the subject
>realise the community's disdain for quartz
>second thoughts set in

It's like waiting for birth of a child after my wife's told she slept with a black man 9 months ago.

I've searched high and low, but can't find anything automatic that comes close to this baby. The only improvement I can imagine would be black strap and mechanism. Got some recs?

>>14212367
Get something actually vintage.

>>14212367
you just have to get into it and find what you want, that thing you got is an abomination though and you will wind up seeing why

go find 5 pics of watches you really like and come back for recs, if you go for actual vintage of a watch like that be prepared to shell out cash for repairs

>>14212000
I love quartz. It hasn't lost a single second since I received it over a week ago

>>14212374
what does the button on the right do

>>14212378
fuck on the upper left i mean

>>14212374
These look like they were designed by a 10 year old

>>14212374
I would buy a quartz submariner if they made one. Spring drive Rolex Submariner when?

>>14212380
It's a helium scape valve for divers. I'll never use it but it doesn't bother me either
>>14212381
I love the design

>>14212383
Imagine the waiting list if it was like 3k

>>14212381
>These look like they were designed by a 10 year old
is 1990s Bond Mall Watch design tbqh

>>14212388
>Imagine the waiting list if it was like 3k
I would shit brix and buy one immediately, I love the subby but can't be fucked with its expensive in house mechanical "official rolex repair guy only" service bullshit

>>14211945
>Wouldn't that include AP, Casio as well?

>>14212383
>Spring drive Rolex Submariner when?
GS has a spring drive that kind of looks like a submariner. It's very high quality (made out of titanium etc) but it's a bit big and chunky for me. Maybe you'd like it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hh6J8wjgeQo

For me, only quartz or spring drive for now on. Regular mechanical watches drive me nuts with their lack of accuracy

>>14212402
that's pretty nifty, how much?

>>14212405
I believe they go for about 6 grand

vacheron constantin or patek?

>>14212413
Depends on which models you're talking about.

>>14212055
reddit is more socially acceptable. therefore less degenerate members. therefore higher average income.

>>14212367
It's €200. Who the fuck cares. No watch at that price has any horological merit. If you like how it looks then just enjoy it.

Longines gents classic reporting in!

>>14212431

>>14212367
>realise the community's disdain for quartz
>second thoughts set in
do you have a brain of your own?

>>14212413
Vacheron are one of the few brands with more history and class than Patek but only just. However don't expect their watches to do as well second hand or at auctions. Both produce amazing watches.

>>14212092
same people who buy ap/patek? those brands are above badge recognition so that solves that problem for gs nicely. the watches just need to be exceptional

>>14212420
Calatrava or Patrimony.

>>14212445
> those brands are above badge recognition so that solves that problem for gs nicely
I have no idea what you are trying to say

>>14212447
100% the patrimony, especially if it's a small seconds traditionelle (with a guilloche dial).

>>14212452
not him, but I think his point is that people buy AP/Patek knowing that normies have no idea those brands exist. GS has an easier time competing with those brands than competing with Rolex because people buy Rolex because of the brand recognition, something GS doesn't have.

>>14212046

Only vintage Heuer is /fa/-approved.

>>14212454
Calatrava looks better tbqh.

>>14212447
In general the Calatrava imo. There is a wider collection of styles to chose from and most are great. Patrimony are more uniform in design and most are even simpler than the standard Calatrava.

There are some excellent Patrimony models though.

This will be my next purchase, within the next year or so. I wish it were under 40mm like the standard El Primero but the lugs are curved so it should help.

>>14212458
Disagreed, but whatever floats your boat m8.

>>14212455
thank you anon that's what i meant

Best replicas to buy?

>>14212458
That's an awful model desu.

>>14212460
That platinum marking on the dial, what the fuck?

>>14212465
Rolex.

There are Rolex fakes made on machines that are also faked.

>>14212469
>There are Rolex fakes made on machines that are also faked.
what do you mean

>>14212467
I'm guessing it's because the dial itself is platinum.

>>14212455
People absolutely buy AP and Patek because of the brand recognition even if some of that is because of resale value.

>>14212470
Chinese factories literally copy the machines Rolex uses to make their watches.

>>14212465

Seiko 5

>>14212470
are you the same guy who said "i dont know what you mean"? are you fucking brain dead

>>14212467
>>14212471
Correct. Platinum Vacherons are usually limited editions, boutique only or on-request. So they are special models and that's a subtle label to indicate what they are.

>>14212478
>Chinese factories literally copy the machines Rolex uses to make their watches.
how to find those good fakes and not the shitty ones?

>>14212477
But that brand recognition is among watch collectors. Ask 10 random people on the street if they know what AP or Patek are. They know about Rolex though.

The people that know about AP/Patek also know about Grand Seiko. It's a different market.

>>14212477
what about f.p. journe's 50k watches? ALS? VC? JLC? a significant portion of the watch brands superior to rolex have very little brand recognition, i'd say AP and Patek are the outliers in this category

What's the best fucking watch I can buy but normies won't notice it because I have severe social anxiety and don't want people noticing me?

>>14212479
>Seiko 5

>>14212489
Grand Seiko was made for you

>>14212489
haute horology brands

>>14212489

>>14212489
>What's the best fucking watch I can buy but normies won't notice it because I have severe social anxiety and don't want people noticing me?
What style are you looking for? There are tons of $50,000 swiss watches no USA middle class normie would ever notice.

Now, if you live in Manhattan and hang out with millionaires, it's a different story. Just depends on your situation

>>14212493
No.

Someone from /fa/ or reddit will notice and talk to them.

>>14212466
That calatrava actually looks pretty nice. I don't see the appeal of pic related at all though. It looks like an aliexpress watch imo.

>>14212498
I wear a shirt and tie to work (but not a jacket/suit).

Imagine an accountant wearing something.

>>14212486
>>14212488
A hell of a lot of random people will know Patek. A surprising amount know about AP albeit just the Royal Oak.

> FPJ? ALS? VC? JLC?
Yes these are watch people brands that normies will not be familiar with. But any watch collector that can afford those will know about GS too so I don't understand your point.

>>14212497
if you think nobody will notice your rolex because it's one of the understated models... i wear an OP 36 as my daily for the same reason and it doesn't fly under the radar if someone gets a close look

>>14212502
Do you associate with millionaires? Do you live in a big world city like LA or NY?

point out some watches in this thread you like. Do you want a mechanical? Do you want a gold case? What is your actual budget?

>>14212500
I don't like the hobnail Calatrava either even though it's a classic. It's a watch from a distant era that doesn't work today. There are so many better choices now.

>>14212505
random middle class normies will see "seiko" anywhere on the watch and think it's a $200 watch no matter what.

If they don't recognise the brand or see the gold case they might ask and then you will have to bullshit

>>14212505
>A hell of a lot of random people will know Patek.
I don't think that's the case. Maybe 1% of people, if that. 90% will know Rolex.

>But any watch collector that can afford those will know about GS too so I don't understand your point.
what do you not understand?

>>14212489
that depends
how fat are you?

>>14212505
the argument here was why would GS try to compete with Patek/AP. all i'm saying is it makes more sense. rolex would crush GS in the same market because of it's brand recognition and i'm saying that's less important at patek level. exceptional watches is the focus, and GS can do that.

>>14212520
that's possibly and understatement. i think the only people who don't know what a rolex is probably live in the jungle

>>14212520
Patek and AP are famous to kids even if it's just from rappers wearing and singing about them.

>>14212524
It's not complicated. GS are increasing prices to try and make more profit. They have a good product that certain people really like. The problem I see is that the watches they've produced so far after the price rises and shift to more upmarket aren't likely to win them new fans.

Imagine how stupid you have to be to fall for the Grand Seiko meme.

People who buy GS have other watches, it's never going to be someone's first watch. GS competes on quality and having interesting movements. If you went out and made something in house at that quality level you would be able to sell it too at that price

>>14212527
>Patek and AP are famous to kids even if it's just from rappers wearing and singing about them.
Ok, whatever. You say A and I say B. Since we don't have statistics, we are basically pulling stuff out of our ass. I still really believe the percentage of people that know about those brands is pretty close to 0.

>>14212561
not him and I agree with you in principle but if you wear a Swiss watch with a 200 year old brand name around town 24/7 and you work in any kind of semi-professional capacity and meet other people, someone is going to notice you have tens of thousands of dollars on your wrist at some point. Even if it's just because their grandpa or old boss/owner had one. A handful of people out of 100 will know what it is and if you work in an office someone will look it up and then the rumor that anon has a 50k gold watch will get around.

But yes, if you just have a plain patek the faggot at the gas station making your change on any given day will never know. It just depends on your life situation and who you are around as to how long it will take x many people to notice.

Is there any reason to get a tool watch/beater in anything but quartz?

>>14212539
> People who buy GS have other watches
GS owner here. In general that's true but like most brands there are some people who buy one brand and one brand only.

GS are what I'd call a mid-level brand with aspirations. They haven't produced a watch yet to compete with the more well know HH names. You might possibly say a Spring Drive but that's still a very tough sell to a lot of buyers of mechanical watches.

>>14212561
Anon is trolling, we all know the average schmuck never heard of fp journe

>>14212573
>that endlug fitment tho

>>14212582
I posted too early. I was going to say that watch looks good in pictures but meh in person. The bracelet in particular looked and felt cheap. It's also priced higher than a Sub or GMT. My point was I don't personally know many buyers who would buy that over a Rolex.

>>14212573
People don’t give spring drive enough credit. That’s a true watch enthusiast movement. It’s completely unique technology that hasn’t been beaten by the Swiss yet

>>14212591
I think GS competes on it's on merit. Go look up all the weird cars made that sell. Such as the Ariel Atom. People who buy shit like that buy it on it's own merit, they have probably seen corvettes and maybe owned or ridden in them and want something different. If you make something high quality someone will buy it at a fair price in my experience. In my opinion that is how Grand Seiko can exist, every male on earth who has a 100k per year job has a subby or has thought about buying one, many people who get into watches are looking for something different and of good quality

>>14212572
Snobbery.

>>14212572
>Is there any reason to get a tool watch/beater in anything but quartz?
because you want one

is there any real reason to own a horse?

>>14212602
>>14212603
I don't completely disagree but GS were a niche brand and still will be based on what I've seen.

To be honest technical merit is rarely on my mind when I'm spending $20k or more on a watch and it's the same for all the other watch collectors I know.

>>14212612
>To be honest technical merit is rarely on my mind when I'm spending $20k or more on a watch
that's almost all that is on my mind, if you don't want it to be technically sound and of high quality when spending that much, what do you want?

>>14212612
Post some of your watchs anon.

>>14212616
At that price level almost every watch is technically sound and of high quality and you are looking at the smallest fractions of differences. Maybe if you were only buying a single high-end watch and wanted the absolutely perfect watch for yourself it would be part of the choice.

Every collector I know, myself included, buy watches because we like and enjoy them. Does it have that "it" factor on my wrist, do I like the design, is the history interesting, is it unusual, do I find it fun. Emotional factors count more than technical and knowing or hoping for good resale values - though that does start to matter when looking at watches that make my wallet hurt.

>>14212624
what are you looking at for your next purchase at that level

>>14212367
>being poor
>wanting the acceptance of a rich community
Not happening dude. Just wear whatever you want, it doesn't matter for people like you anyway. I know you want to be a "watch guy" but it's not happening, not even in your small third world town or wherever, there's always going to be real watch guys who will show you your place.

>>14212367
>realise the community's disdain for quartz
>actually taking serious what this bunch of insecure fags has to say

Wear and buy whatever you want, normie. This thing is ugly, that should have stopped you.

>>14212630
I'm still looking for a Patek Perpetual Calendar. I've seen many I like but none that made me go "That's the one". [pic related] I saw in person and came close and was top end of my watch budget for the year.

Basel was kind of shit so the only watch on my list for this year I'm almost certain to buy is the new Lange Datograph Date. Other than that it depends if I see anything second hand or randomly in an AD that appeals to me.

>>14212646
>Patek Perpetual Calendar.
Well that specifically is something I would say you are buying for technical merit. I never understood the perpetual calendar mechanical thing, it needs a $500-$1000 service every few years but once every four years you don't have to spend 3 seconds adjusting for leap day... maybe if it only needed service once every 50 years I would get it. Seems like a tech meme to me.

but you can get one if you want one any time, just look on ebay for a reputable dealer or call around, nothing is hard to find in modern times with internet

>>14212646
>>14212652
plus if you don't wear it literally every day or keep it on a winder it's a bitch to set

it's like theoretical convince in the face of the reality of massive inconvenience from a practical standpoint

>>14212646
just get a Bagel Sport dude :^)

why are black bay GMTs selling way the fuck over msrp on chrono24?
are they also on massive waitlists? fuck the (((swiss)))

>>14212667
because supply is not meeting demand

>>14212652
>>14212653
If I spend $100k on a watch then a $1k service every 4 years is a trivial expense - it'd actually be closer to $2k for a complication servicing. Most of the people I know who do own a perpetual of course own winders but they don't get anal about the moon phase position because it's not a watch you wear every day and I'd be the same.

As for buying because of technical merit. Well not precisely. The perpetual calendar movements is one the pinnacles of watch making so I'd like one for my collection. Do I think Patek have technically the best movements? I have no idea. I do however think they have the best looking and designed perpetual dials that I've seen.

>>14212062
Perth is the worst city to buy a watch from especially a Euro brand. Only like a handful of shops stock them and they act like they are making no profit if they take 5% off.

Go to Melbourne/Sydney or Asia if you want to buy.

>>14212667
jsut get this figgit

https://www.ebay.com/itm/GMT-Watches-41mm-Sterile-Black-Dial-Bay-Blue-red-Bezel-Leather-Mechanical-men/253986438933?_trkparms=aid%3D555018%26algo%3DPL.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131003132420%26meid%3D23daef1fbfd54cb999c0fe6966a6c430%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D153307626641%26itm%3D253986438933&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851

>>14212669
I don't know man you just seem like you are all over the place "is this technically the best movement, I have no idea but it's the pinnacle of watchmaking"

pick one

>>14212677
I don't see the confusion. It's like saying I want a tourbillon because of its historical significance. Then buying a watch with one purely on aesthetics and not because it has the best execution of a tourbillon.

What is the tier above a Seiko diver but below say a Seamaster.

Eg. What are some good divers to buy in the $500-1500 range?

>>14212700
It's done in limited runs so I think the only way to get one if you wanted it right now was used, but there is the halios seaforth.

>>14212700
>Eg. What are some good divers to buy in the $500-1500 range?
Everyone will tell you and you will find out for yourself if you look hard enough that there is a huge gap between $500 and about $4000. There are tons of good working sub $500 divers and tons of really great 4k+ divers but almost everything in between is a horrible compromise between the two.

it's just the way it is

Tritium aftermarket SKX007 hands when?

>>14212709
Yeah thats what im finding. High end Seikos dont really seem worth it and most of the entry European brands just feel like they are made from a tin can.

>>14212700
Whatever microbrands that strike your fancy, are still in stock, and carefully considered because they might be overpriced for what they are.

There is the citizen signature, though.

>>14212739
The problem with the microbrands, is that you aren't necessarily getting something better than a Seiko prospex just because it probably uses a 28k beat rate 9015.

I forgot to mention, there are offerings from Damasko and Sinn for dive watches, check them out too.

Anyone who buys a $2000 microbrand diver because he has added up all the parts and thinks it's a "good deal" is retarded

>>14212624
Hold on hold on, as I understand it a big part of ultra luxury watches is the finishing. Movement and case finishing, tight tolerances, all that. GS excels at that

>>14212770
> Movement and case finishing, tight tolerances, all that.
That's why they are expensive but not predominately why people buy them.

Im wanting a second watch.

Im thinking of getting a pepsi Seiko Solar diver for the weekends which I can wear a bit more casually. I feel like I should get an automatic but I dont know if I can be bothered winding two watches all the time and keeping them up to date.

How do you guys manage all your watches? do you swap every few weeks or do you spend 20 minutes a day winding them all.

>>14212791
>Im thinking of getting a pepsi Seiko Solar diver for the weekends which I can wear a bit more casually. I feel like I should get an automatic but I dont know if I can be bothered winding two watches all the time and keeping them up to date.
get it anon SNE435

>>14212791

>>14212791
>pepsi Seiko Solar diver

>>14212770
Yes and no. GS shits all over the swatch group. But the movement finishing pales in comparison to Nomos and the mid-high tier brands GS is starting to raise their price to. Then there are the designs, which some people don't like.

Futhermore, lot of watch people are sucked into romantic ideals that make the watch more than the sum of it's parts (see, marketing, appeal to heritage, "soul"). You can call them idiots if you like, but realize that all watch buying is irrational/emotion driven and that looking at watches like they were graphics cards is something mostly done by the kinds of sensible people who buy Japanese everything. And if you were really sensible, you'd get a quartz GS instead of a spring drive. Or even, the cheapest spring drive there is instead of a 5 figure GS with the same movement.

>>14212341
>particularly horrible in all modern variations
Nah, but admittedly they do carry an enormous burden of previous management that wanted to milk the Heuer name for every last cent. I would never pay big money for one, but then I wouldnt for any other SWISS MADE meme for 3k+ with most of their parts outsourced to china.

>>14212809
unless you are a literal scuba diver there is no reason to wear any watch worth more than $20 except for luxury

>>14212812
>most of their parts outsourced to china.
not allowed in (((Switzerland)))

>And if you were really sensible, you'd get a quartz GS instead of a spring drive. Or even, the cheapest spring drive there is instead of a 5 figure GS with the same movement.

why wouldnt you get the spring drive? thats the whole appeal of GS to me

>>14212815
>not allowed
I derped, I meant "a good chunk", which 40% is.

>>14212374
Onions

Are Phoibos any good or is it Chinese trash?

>>14212814
> no reason to {spend} more than $20 except for luxury
Which board do you think you're on?

>>14212809
> lot of watch people are sucked into romantic ideals that make the watch more than the sum of it's parts (see, marketing, appeal to heritage, "soul").
Precisely this and the GS fans here forget the exact same thing applies to them too. No one spends tens of thousands on a watch just because it has nice polishing.

>>14212824

9F is p cool. Sealed cabin makes for a V long lasting watch.

>>14212667

It's a shitter disguising itself as something more. Don't get it, save up for a real Rolex GMT

>>14212762
>Seiko prospex j
What's wrong with a Seiko Prospex?

>>14212795
Holy shit do people really use watch storage boxes for cheap watches? Or is this a meme pic?

https://forums.watchuseek.com/f71/unboxing-redux-courg-warning-picture-intensive-2735682.html

Is this the ultimate reddit watch?

>>14212891
>Seiko Prospex

>>14212893
>cheap
That's over a thousand dollars in watches.

>>14212907
>Is this the ultimate reddit watch?Great unboxing Wear it in great health!

>>14212912
You say that as if it means something. It doesn't.

>Is this the ultimate reddit watch?
Wear it in great health!

>>14212092
Those really expensive GS models are made by the Credor micro-artist studio and are finished to haute horlogerie standards. They are priced appropriately for their level of hand finishing.

Those new precious metal hand-wind spring drives are basically GS versions of the Credor Eichi II.

>>14212916
>You say that as if it means something. It doesn't.
it means they are worth more than leaving them lying around a junk drawer anon, do you not wear gloves and use boxes when handling fine watches?

>>14212907
>Is this the ultimate reddit watch?
Wear it in great health!

upvoted and karma given

>>14212912
Dude a cheap watch costs like 5 times as much. This is the equivalent of storing PBR in one of those hi tech walk in cooler wine cellars.

>>14212911
What?

>>14212927
>Dude
oh bro really?

>>14212929
>What?

>>14212927
>This is the equivalent of storing PBR in one of those hi tech walk in cooler wine cellars.
>$9 chink box for $1200 in watches

>>14212934
I don't get it.

>>14212946
>I don't get it.

>>14212851
Seiko has a pretty interesting high-end production watchmaking tradition in the late pre-quartz era when the two main factories competed against each other, and its modern incarnation of GS carries on the legacies of the two factories fairly well.

Granted it takes a lot of effort and research to get a decent understanding of Seiko's watchmaking history, but it's actually pretty interesting stuff and isn't well known beyond watch nerds.

>>14212953
>Granted it takes a lot of effort and research to get a decent understanding of Seiko's watchmaking history, but it's actually pretty interesting stuff and isn't well known beyond watch nerds.

>>14212367
fuck autos man, they are always behind, if you don't wear them for a few days you have to re-set the time, but DONT re-set the time between 9 pm - 3 am, so hopefully the watch didn't die at 9 pm otherwise enjoy having the wrong time on your wrist for 6 hours. 1/4 of the time it will die during this period.

they have to get serviced for big $$$ every few years, rather than a quartz which just needs batteries. i wish i didnt fall for the auto meme, always being inaccurate, always having to worry about whether my watch is going to die if i don't wear it, always worried the movement is going to stick one day because i don't want to pay $400 to get it serviced.

if you can't afford servicing, you are buying a 5 year watch. remember that.

>>14212963
>if you don't wear them for a few days you have to re-set the time
Can't you just shake it a bit every morning?

>>14212975
>Can't you just shake it a bit every morning?
you don't have to if it's solar

>>14212976
Yeah but then you're not cool.

>>14212401
I mean, hasn't AP always been independent, family owned as well as PP and Rolex, while Casio coasted with Seiko during the quartz crisis.

>>14212986
>not cool.

>>14212402
>GS has a spring drive that kind of looks like a submariner
SBGA029 (older model with SEIKO, stainless steel), SBGA229 (newer model, stainless steel), SBGA031 (older model with SEIKO, titanium), SBGA231 (newer model, titanium. Also the new diver at Baselworld with spring drive, Seiko Prospex but GS-tier priced.

>>14212413
>VC
>Heritage of being Arab-owned at onepoint

Oc lume speedy pro

threadly reminder

>>14213028
iwatch is made in china

How to minimize the amount of watches I must buy to have one for every occasion? I need something for casual everyday wear (I wear mostly tactical/military/motorcycle gear) that I can wear while chopping wood, preferably something that I can wear on a bike too (either something that I can strap on the jacket which seems really gay, or something that fits in between short gloves and the jacket, I don't think watches that go below the jacket/long gloves are particularly useful), one specifically for adventure touring (should I get a Casio with a GPS and all that shit?), one for more serious clothes, one for nights on the town with the lads, and one for weddings and funerals. I don't want overly expensive shit, I'm just trying to wrap my mind around the amount of watches I'll have to get.

im loving this tag shitter i bought and have gotten some compliments.

really needs a new bracelet though

>>14213042
>compliments
wow you know people with no taste who like 1995 mall watches, neato

>>14213044
lmao calm down. im well aware this watch is a shitter but im super down with the 90s vibe

plus i i like the smaller form factor.

Why does literally nobody else here like seiko turtles

>>14213075
who likes having a fat slab of steel on their arm. pillow cases are just ugly. it looks like you are wearing a naval memorial on your wrist

>>14212975
just another thing you gotta do every day for absolutely no reason. you werent put on this earth to shake a fucking watch every morning.

no one can see the auto movement on your wrist unless you are a wrist fedora skeleton watch fag.

it just doesnt make sense. the only justification is that some autos make a nice ticking sounds you hear every once in a while when it gets quiet or you pick your nose.

>>14213075
A bit big for me. Pic related is my favorite seiko diver. It's discontinued in 2010 so the price is crazy now, not really worth it.
>Skx aesthetics
>Tasteful size at 39mm
>HAQ with -/+20secs per year
>10 year battery
>Perpetual calendar
>Oyster bracelet unlike the skx flimsy jubilee
>Drilled lugs

looking for a dress watch under $500
Automatic movement ( would like if it had handwinding and hacking too )
Steel case
white dial with blue hands
Sapphire crystal
Black or brown leather strap
Nothing over 40mm case width 38mm would be nice

>>14213091
how much

>>14213107
around $500 used

>>14213039
1 dress watch
1+ beater (ie. diver, chronograph, "casual", luxury sports; lots of overlap)
So, 2 watches bare minimum, 3 for a bare bones "collection" (dress, diver, chrono)

>>14213115
FUCK THAT!

>>14213092
easy. orient bambino

>>14213128
hello baby

>>14213128
gay

any Aussies here? Where do you buy your watches from. Most places have stupid markup prices

>>14213135
Why is it so hard to import shit down there

>>14213141
cause Amazon doesn't ship here anymore so people feel like they can double and even triple the price of shit cause we can't get it any other way

>>14213155
>Amazon doesn't ship here anymore
why

what did you guys do

>>14213156
Amazon figured out that people here are idiots and will happily pay more.

Also the government has starting trying to tax any products you import (I've still not had anything held on customs though)

>>14213156
Our country applies goods and services tax to everything that comes into australia so Amazon opted out. It used to be only things over were $1000 but now it applies to literally everything

>>14213161
>>14213166
>Amazon opted out.
https://www.amazon.com.au/

https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/embed/77d42b51-b2bf-466c-aca9-26ad924d485a?autoplay=true%22

How am I supposed to know if a watch has a tough movement or not?

>>14213173
you might not like it but casio tough mvt is pretty neato

>>14213170
Au Amazon is a joke. It's just our shitty retail prices. You can get nearly everything cheaper if you shop around. I've only used it once to buy a video game because Amazon was giving out $10 off your first purchase I'm assuming because no one was buying off them. Au Amazon shipping prices are terrible as well.

>>14212447
>>14212458
>>14212460
This is a better-looking watch than any Calatrava prove me wrong you can't.

>>14212573
>GS are what I'd call a mid-level brand
In what fucking way?
They're finished better on the case, dial, indices, hands, ... than 99% of luxury watches out there.

>>14213196
I think he meant in terms of the average price. You can get a snowflake for 5k.

>>14212809
>But the movement finishing pales in comparison to Nomos
Holy shit no.
I don't know what it is that makes you think this, but please educate yourself.

>>14213191
God damn it, captcha ate pic.

>>14213170
Amazon AU is a glorified book store.

New TGV is up!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcnRAiTK8rg

>>14212809
I'm with you in a lot of ways.
I for one appreciate the grand old names and traditions of European watchmaking simply because I'm European. And especially in these times of globalist insanity, that heritage is valuable to me.

But at the same time I still have to scoff at the fact that these extremely expensive European luxury watches have raw die marks all over the edges of their hands and markers.

>>14212033
used omega?

>>14212431

Nice, how big is it?

>>14212367
Get what you want bro, there will always be those guys on 4chan telling you how the only watch worth getting is patek, rolex or whatever.

I own too many watches, but I still get super excited when I know theres a seiko waiting for me in the mail. Not expensive watches, but I enjoy them.

>>14213212
>IMAGINE thinking small seconds EVER look good.

I am literally LOLing at my keyboard.

>>14213191
>>14213212
the fictional watch from Drive is too

Ok, ok ok... Someone PLEASE red pill me on Orient. I have been eye'ing some automatic shitters on eBay for the last week but noticed Orient. I love watches but do not know as much as some of you boys. I really like the Orient dive watches and that dress watch that was posted above. There is one with an open heart display which looks sick as it also has roman numerals.

Thanks!

>>14213274
Pic related is what I am liking from Orient.

What are some watches you totally changed your opinion on when you saw them in person? Just saw one of these the other day and it's completely special, cameras have no chance of capturing the way it reflects light.

>>14213292
tacky

>>14213292
what is that ridiculous hippie/fag thing on his wrist?

>>14213297
His designs are a breath of fresh air when you view them next to most everything else which all looks so cookie cutter honestly. Feel the same way about him I do about Lange, I wouldn't want to actually wear that many of their models but I'm glad they're out there anyway.

>>14213305
Upside down numbers are a breath of fresh air I can live without.

>>14212739
is that a squale?

>>14213276
>>14213292
Anyone?

>>14213329
If you want a diver I'd get the orient ray/mako ii instead. They're really cheap now. The new ones are great but they're more expensive and bigger. But they have sapphire crystal which is good.
I've been wearing an orient ray i for 4 years and I like it a lot.

>>14213318
How about upside down numbers with a visible date wheel?

Whats the deal with used watch prices? They dont seem like its worth it at all to me. Once you haggle you can get new for the same or just a tiny bit more.

Do people just go in and pay full retail price? Do watches just have a good resale price?

>>14212367
The 100 Jahre uses a Valjoux automatic movement I believe, looks like the kind of thing you might like too.

pure class

>>14213196
GS has excellent external finishing, but overal they are still on the same tier as Zenith, entry level JLC, Rolex, Tudor, etc. Those are high end for mass produced watches, but are not high end watchmaking, which is the realm of haute horlogerie like ALS, Patek, VC, etc.

>>14213212
I've handles one of those in person at it was really lovely. Very crisp external finishing.

>>14213388
>GS has excellent external finishing, but overal they are still on the same tier as Zenith, entry level JLC, Rolex, Tudor, etc.
>Those are high end for mass produced watches
GS is a tier soundly above those.
The movements are going to be comparable, but the external finishing on GS watches is much more involved.

>but are not high end watchmaking, which is the realm of haute horlogerie like ALS, Patek, VC, etc.
GS produces high-end watchmaking as well, with entirely hand-finished movements.

>>14213401
> GS produces high-end watchmaking as well
Apart from their micro-artist watches the vast majority are exactly as >>14213388 describes and that's what matters.

>>14213401
>GS is a tier soundly above those.
>The movements are going to be comparable, but the external finishing on GS watches is much more involved.
Against entry level semi-production JLC models and Zenith, Grand Seiko's trade more involved external finishing for less involved movement finishing and come out roughly at a draw.

>GS produces high-end watchmaking as well, with entirely hand-finished movements.
Those are produced by the micro-artist studio, not by the GS departments at Seiko Instruments (which do all regular GS mechanicals) or Seiko Epson (which do all regular GS spring drive and quartz models). I was referring to the series produced watches made in the main GS departments.

>>14213406
>Apart from their micro-artist watches
Those are the ones I was talking about, yes.

>the vast majority are exactly as >>14213388 describes
Having similar movement finish, but vastly superior external finish puts them GS a tier soundly above Zenith, entry level JLC, Rolex, Tudor, etc.

>>14213429
>Against entry level semi-production JLC models and Zenith, Grand Seiko's trade more involved external finishing for less involved movement finishing and come out roughly at a draw.
The movements are very close in terms of finishing.

>I was referring to the series produced watches made in the main GS departments.
I thought you were referring to GS.

>>14213429
Some would argue that trading finishing quality where you're never going to see it for increased quality where you are going to see it is a sound deal.

>>14213438
> vastly superior external finish puts them GS a tier soundly above
It's not a vast difference, it's microscopic. Read what people who buy at that level say - >>14212612 and >>14212624

What you describe makes no difference to the buyers spending that much money. If you ever leave your basement, get a job and earn enough money to buy a GS then g/l to you. Most people will not.

Where can I buy good straps that isn't made by (((them))) ?

>>14213448
>It's not a vast difference, it's microscopic.
Same is true for the difference between a Lange and a Nomos movement.

>What you describe makes no difference to the buyers spending that much money.
You think people would pay the same money for a Lange if it had Nomos-tier finishing?

>>14212805
>>14212911
>>14212922
wtf is this shit

>>14213466
> Same is true for the difference between a Lange and a Nomos movement.
So you think there is the same amount of difference between a Lange and a Nomos as between a Grand Seiko and a JLC? That's simply ridiculous and you know it.

> You think people would pay the same money for a Lange if it had Nomos-tier finishing?
Again a facetious statement. If a Lange has Nomos level finishing it would have Nomos level pricing and vice-versa. The amount of manual labour and quality of the finishing is why high-end watches are so expensive and why machine produced watches are not.

Taking a brake from the 7a28 Bishop for today.

>>14213481
You just literally said "It's not a vast difference, it's microscopic".
Well, the difference between a "nice" middling movement and a Lange movement is also microscopic.

Please keep up with your own arguments.

>>14213481
>If a Lange has Nomos level finishing it would have Nomos level pricing and vice-versa.
Not according to your logic.
You said "microscopic differences" make no difference to buyers spending that much money.

Is it autistic if I bring a loupe to a watch store?

>>14213505
They should offer you one, or at least give you one when you ask for it.

>>14213505
Now that you've mentioned it, I probably wouldn't visit a watch store without some form of magnification.

New thread:

>>14213514
>>14213514
>>14213514

>>14213340
>paying 1500€ for a vintage larp

Their autos are overpriced. I paid 579euro for my handwound model with a modiefied poljot P3133 movement and still feel like it was too much, now that i know more about watches.
I like the style and creme dial but quality could be better. Look at the border around the date window. Was not there when i just got it. Date aligns, its just the perspective.

>>14213448
>microscopic finishing makes no difference to buyers spending that much money

>>14213481
>The quality of the finishing is why high-end watches are so expensive

t. the same guy

>>14213508
>>14213509
They sell mostly mid tier stuff (I'm buying a speedy) so I'll ask them for one but I'll also bring mine just in case.

>>14213501
>>14213503
>>14213529
I can't tell if these morons are trolling or simply retarded.

>>14213441
>The movements are very close in terms of finishing.
They are not. JLC does noticeably finer quality movement finishing than GS on their respective production models. JLC uses blued screws, more anglage, and more polished anglage, and does much more refined plate finishes applied with traditional machines.

GS does mostly machine applied decorative finishing on their production models, and prefers to spend the hand labour on their movements in functional areas rather than decorative. This focus on spending the hand labour on functional rather than decorative areas (or on both) in movements goes all the way back to the start of Grand Seiko and King Seiko at Daini and Suwa Seikosha.

>I thought you were referring to GS.
I was referring to watches GS actually makes, the haute finished pieces aren't made by GS, they are just GS branded. The micro-artist studio is a separate organization within Seiko, normally organized under Credor.

>>14213552
>They are not. JLC does noticeably finer quality movement finishing than GS on their respective production models. JLC uses blued screws, more anglage, and more polished anglage, and does much more refined plate finishes applied with traditional machines.
There is no polished anglage on entry-level JLC. Nor are there any "refined plate finishes".
Outside of maybe the blued screws, the level of finish is very similar to a GS movement.

>I was referring to watches GS actually makes, the haute finished pieces aren't made by GS, they are just GS branded. The micro-artist studio is a separate organization within Seiko, normally organized under Credor.
JLC also has different departments depending on the level of workmanship. All high-end brands do.
Micro Artist Studio is Seiko, and Grand Seiko is Seiko.
For instance, the head guy at the Micro Artist Studio, is at the same time head of the Spring Drive department of Grand Seiko.

>>14213581
>There is no polished anglage on entry-level JLC.
The machined finish on entry-level JLC movement anglage is quite clearly a finer finish than that left on GS spring drive anglage, not even to mention that the regular mechanical GS movements omit anglage entirely on many of their plates.

>Nor are there any "refined plate finishes".
Pretending you can't see the more subtle finishing of the striping, anglage, and pearlage of JLC's entry level movements doesn't make it go away.

>Outside of maybe the blued screws, the level of finish is very similar to a GS movement.
I'm not going to waste any more time trying to convince you of something that is glaringly obvious in a side by side picture comparison.

>Micro Artist Studio is Seiko, and Grand Seiko is Seiko.
I'm well aware, however the Micro Artist Studio is not part of the regular Grand Seiko production chain, and I was talking about watches made by that production chain, just as I'm talking about JLC's entry-level models and not the ones they make finished to haute horlogerie standards.

What's the cheapest dress watch that you can wear with a suit without being a laughing stock? Are suits and dress watches something that poor people should avoid altogether and just stick to their casual and work clothes?

>>14213817
>What's the cheapest dress watch that you can wear with a suit without being a laughing stock? Are suits and dress watches something that poor people should avoid altogether and just stick to their casual and work clothes?
Honestly there are tons of aliexpress sub $20 shitters that look good with a suit. I would unicronally wear this and anyone who didn't like it could fuck off:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ESS-Mens-Watch-Quartz-Brown-Leather-Strap-Minimal-Bauhaus-Vintage-Analog-Luxury/292450419006

>>14212367
You should just buy what makes you happy not what makes anonymous people on a Taiwanese rice farming board happy

>>14213817
Casio MTP-V006GL-7B
I like how the roman numerals look, that roundness is somethig new.
No, you can wear a suit if it's fitting the occasion. Dress watches don't have to be expensive, their purpose is to compliment the look.

need some watch videos to watch lads