/fa/ - Fashion

What kind of bracelets, bracers, wristbands or prayer beads do you wear with your watch or on the other wrist to create symmetry /wt/?

Would /wt/ get one of these? If not, what is a good alternative at a similar price (630 EUR)?

1/3

2/3

3/3

More details here: https://www.meccanicheveneziane.it/collections/redentore-o40mm-forte-marghera-limited-edition/products/redentore-o40mm-1201012-forte-marghera-limited-edition

>>14209703
Even Lange can't make a open-face tourbillion look good.

>>14209718
>>14209719
>>14209721
Big nope
Never buy anything based on render pics or anything that has any other language than english on the dial.

>>14209757
American monolingual hillbilly detected.

>>14209718
>render
Fuck no. 630 euro can get you a decent watch that you actually know what it looks like.

>>14209783
>630 euro can get you a decent watch
yes but anything that looks sexy and also has some kind of quality to it? i dunno much about watches at this price range... I usually wear casio!

Should I get the oyster perpetual 39 /wt/? I need a big boy's watch. It's kinda boring but at the same time it's elegant I think.

This is now a strictly military watch thread

>>14209810
>quartz
Disgusting.

>>14209810
>no chronograph

>>14209806
I'd get a 36mm model with the angled brushing on the lugs personally, but a 39mm OP is a fine choice too.

How many watches do I actually need to have something for most occasions? I've been getting into this and it seems it's at least 6-7, I can't spend $60k on watches.

What's your wrist size /wt/? Do you follow sizing guides?

>>14209775
>>14209718
That watch will suit your personality perfectly

>>14209810
The circled L triggers my autism though. Mark xi is pretty much perfect imo.

>>14209721
talk to me about it. It actually looks like a big money watch (that was my immediate thought until I saw the movement and price).

what do we have here

>Nomos and Grand Seiko are trying to move up in price again after doing it last baselworld
Who will save us?

>>14209851
Need a source about Nomos. First I've heard about that.

>>14209826
dive, dress, chronograph are the main parts of a studied collection

as long as you're at least Rolex-tier, you can put together a 3-piece collection (and even slum on the chronograph with a speedmaster), and call it a day.

What's the point of a diver's watch? No one's ever going diving, and a chronograph is much better to wear as a casual watch.

>>14209851
Seiko is fucking nuts these days. The new spring drive prospexes are more expensive than a GS snowflake.

>>14209870
You can still use the bezel to time things even if you don't necessarily need the water resistance.

>>14209870
>Bezel protects crystal from scratch
>Cheaper service/less fussy than chrono if automatics
>More legible than a chrono because dial is as busy
>Can wear confidently while swimming in the pool/beach

>>14209718
I didn’t know VC made that model

>>14209826
You really only need 3 watches: a beater like a g shock, sports watch e.g. submariner and a dress piece like a calatrava.

>>14209864
Wait, I overreacted slightly. They released a 5k tangente sport, but in a way it warrants the price change if you think the first jump from a couple years ago about the neomatik watches. Sort of.

>>14209870
I scuba, and I own fast cars (very fast) that I use my racing chronographs for

maybe you'd prefer the autist's GS (although they make dive and chronograph pieces, too)

>>14209870
I do go swimming. I could do it with a Seiko 5 that has 100m water resist, but I could also do it with any cheapo beater that has 200m instead.

It also goes well with my sweaters when I do preppy.

>>14209870
Divers have only recently been seen as a dress watch similar to the Sub being worn with suits these days.

>>14209851
Screen shot this, GS’s obscurity makes it a better choice for a haut hology brand than Rolex or omega tier. That’s what they’re going for, JLC level

>>14209887
That watch definitely deserves it's price.


> Dimensions
> diameter 42.0 mm
> height 10.9 mm
> weight 66.0 g

> Water resistance
> 30 atm (suitable for diving)

>>14209913
I just wish nomos would actually do some more interesting case finishing. Those flat, polished stick lugs & flat case sides are dealbreakers to be honest.

>>14209918
Would require a price increase. Watchmakers in Glashütte already aren't paid enough. Roughly 11,25€ gross, all across the board even ALS watchmakers.

>>14209925
11,25€ per hour gross.

>>14209906
no brand holds its value like rolex.
you can't give away a GS 5 years after purchase.
rolex is +2k with the right sports model in 2 years (stainless sports models are nowhere to be found at any AD's worldwide).

>>14209925
Even if it was just using brushing on the case sides instead of polish that would at least be better. Surely brushing doesn't require as much labor as polishing?

>>14209913
the minimalist style's been over for years. no one's into nomos anymore.

>>14209930
You totally could give away a GS, that being said very few watch brands hold value like Rolex. Even the higher tier brands don't hold value as well, which is odd.

>>14209931
>use submarine steel just like Sinn
>get more durable cases and lose the problem of nomos watches being super easy to magnetize
This sounds kind of sexy, but
>>14209925

>>14209913
>42 mm
They keep going bigger. First the Autobahn now this.
>>14209936
Brainlet post. They still make the best watches below 4k.

>>14209960
they could make incredible watches. but no one likes minimalist styling, it's been out of style for years.

>>14209952
Patek certainly do, in general even better than Rolex.

>>14209905
So it's for tacky idiots?

>>14209981
*click*

Why do people pay tens of thousands of dollars for watches when you can get an exact replica for a few hundred?

>>14209985
If it were actually exact. If only.

Anyone who is 'into' watches is a boring old fart that will die old and alone and probably a virgin. I was told that by a very attractive young lady so it must be true? She wore a Rolex...

>>14209985
> exact replica
Hah. Good one.

>>14209986
>>14209992
Tell me some major differences that anyone who's not autistic would have an issue with.

>>14209913
Neat that it has that kind of water rating for a watch that looks like a quartz swatch but still that's absolutely not a dive watch... no bezel timer and poor low light/underwater visibility. I would swim with it though, which I wouldn't do with a speedmaster, so that's cool.

>>14209985
>why not get a fake that only resembles the real thing if you don't actually look closely
2/10 I replied.

>>14209960
Is nomos really better than Tudor or Omega in your opinion?

>>14209985
A good 1:1 fake Rolex sub is still like $800 but comes with none of the servicing, liable to break down after a short period and nobody is accountable to fix/replace it, embarrassing to take into an independent watchmaker, its actually illegal in most countries, and you'll always know its phoney ergo you too are phoney.

Might as well put a little aside each month til you can get the genuine article which will last a lifetime and can become an heirloom or in a pinch you could sell it for near to or even more than what you paid for it.

>>14210013
>comes with none of the servicing, liable to break down after a short period and nobody is accountable to fix/replace it
Dude servicing is like $10 every few months.
>illegal in most countries
Lol what the fuck, what kind of a third world shithole are you in?

And does anyone actually like how a Rolex looks? I was talking about replicas of decent looking watches.

>>14210030
Fake are illegal in most first world countries. Third world countries don't care because they are poor.

>>14209836
I'm not 14209775.
>>14209843
>>14209757
>>14209783
What do you think of the non-rendered version?

>>14210030
Illegal in most developed countries such as USA, most of Europe etc... whereas places like India, China, southeast Asia, the middle east etc being rife with counterfeit watches as they allow it

>>14210042
>Fake are illegal in most first world countries.
So are steroids and you're still taking those.

>/wt/ descends into another tedious argument about buying fake watches

>>14209994
Anyone who can make an exact replica of something actually worth copying would be better off making a microbrand and selling homages.
If they make a replica of a tool watch, it won't have water or scratch resistance.
If they make a fake of anything with precious metals or gems it's super obvious that it's fake materials. You may as well have just gone to the craft store and stuck them on the dial.
If they make a fake of something that has a case back, then they won't have good enough finishing for the movement or even use the wrong one (which will inevitably be chinkshit), making them even worse than a Seiko 5 or a vostok, which at least have water resist and straps that match the lugs.
The fact that you're going to pay a couple hundred for a watch that's probably worse than a Seiko 5 is really telling. Even a quirky microbrand that might have dodgy QC usually has novelty and design to put them apart, a replica by definition has no originality or novelty.
I don't even give a shit if it's "not real" or arguments about heritage, I'd get a fake AP if it really were the same. But they aren't and the value you get for them is poor.
>but these details are autistic
Then why care about watches to begin with? If you don't care about the movement, the finishing, the place of origin, the design (homages of famous watches are out there with decent QC), the features that make up the original watch, or even how close the replica looks to the original, then all that's left is the brand, which makes it a fake watch for fake people. If you don't look like you have enough money people will scrutinize it and notice it's a fake. It's like, the only time a normal person notices or cares about a watch, when they think something doesn't add up.

That being said, if you can find an exact replica of something worth copying, it would probably have to be a steel watch with no case back that uses an ETA, because there is a suitable chink copy. But none of those are worth copying.

>>14210055
You expect /wt/ to have a non-autistic original conversation? I can't remember the last time that happened.

>>14210060
Actually, just for shits and giggles. Are there any overpriced brands that fit the category of "just stick an ETA in it" that have no water resist, and a design that is stupid easy to copy? That might be the only time a replica is worth it.

>>14210060
>>but these details are autistic
>Then why care about watches to begin with?
Thanks for agreeing :)

>>14210073
Is this really appropriate with a suit? Looks awfully big.

For outdoor activities such as hiking, climbing, rivering, camping, etc - is a metal bracelet better than something such as NATOs?

I feel like it would be

>>14210079

Japanese James Bond

Waiting on my SNE435 to be delivered

^_^

Does a watch like this exist? And if it doesn't, would it be feasible to make?

>>14210082
Metal bracelets are good for nothing unless you're an old fat German accountant fucking ladyboys in Ukraine.

>>14210087
First off, how old are you and are you aware of the term "cannon pinion"?

>>14210087
Some of it is easy.
Just make the minutes and seconds a "disc"

I have no idea how to move the date window or get a disc that goes through the middle and has 31 days.

>>14210087
Date display is still a dial that has to go in a circle and contain 31 numbers. Putting it in the center will make the dial take less than half the watch diameter. The digits will have to be really tiny.
Holes in hands can only fit the digits only at 60 minutes. Mid-hour it's going to look awkward.

>>14210060
What do you think about "homage" watches like the Steinhart Ocean 1?

>>14210115
What would you think of h&m sneakers that copy some balenciagas?

>>14209870
I fucking love the bezel timer as a super lazy aid for timing cooking/timing my shits/timing the escort

What does /fa/ think about the 39mm Explorer 1? Is it a Soilex or a Chadlex? Is the 116610LN Sub a better choice?

>>14210117
Oh god I just remembered how I was watching some black guy on youtube show off his sneaker collection a few months ago, it was literally the gayest thing in the world, you reminded me of the existence of "designer sneakers" now, I still can't believe it's a thing.

>>14210115
It's at least got 316L and water resist. The lume might be good, too. It's not something I would choose, but at least it isn't more of a waste of money than any ~400 watch.

Where are the domed sapphire dive watches, anyway?

>>14210152
>It's not something I would choose
Why?

>>14210152
316L is the typical SS chinks use for shit though

>>14210097

Seems harsh

>>14210082
no metal is far worse for that, if you get hung up on something you can't cut it off, if you fall and the bracelet gets caught and your body weight gets put on it ..... NATO bands were designed to get rid of metal bracelets for that reason and metal is not allowed in the military

>>14210086
>SNE435

>>14210001
Depends on what you want. I have a tangente with date and a motm speedy. Not really comparable but for a dress watch I’d take a Nomos all day over Omega. Nomos doesn’t make real sportswatches so Tudor isn’t even in the discussion really. Tudor is decent at what they do and good for the price but Nomos really blows out every company below JLC or Grand Seiko when it comes to finishing, in house movements and overall quality. Then again, they only make meme Bauhaus designs with mostly simple dials and movements.

>>14210159
I prefer the likes of:
The Halios Seaforth some dude shilled here
HKED Nemo
>>14210163

>>14210030
I hope your just larping lol

>>14210205
>I prefer
Why?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPxEy05qkg0

Can someone give me a watch that looks exactly like this, that isn't a $10 Chinese piece of shit?

>>14210294

Seiko 5?

>tfw want to fix up the lume on some old, cheap citizen just because it was a gift from a long time ago
Guess I've got brain problems.

>>14210294
Just search for fliegers from whatever watchmaker you like (stowa, IWC, many others).

>>14210233
They look better to me, I prefer having bars everywhere over triangle circle circle bar. But if you like those more, go ahead

>>14210294
This style is B-uhr Type-B. It was designed by Luftwaffe for its bomber crews.
Since then, every watchmaker made one.
Laco, Stowa and IWC are the original watchmakers contracted by Luftwaffe that still make them. Archimede and some others make a point of making replicas close to original.
Plenty of less true-to-original as well.

>>14210345
>Laco, Stowa and IWC are the original watchmakers contracted by Luftwaffe that still make them.
Are they any good?

>>14210345
>>14210322
>look it up
>it's like 5k for a literal army watch that was given away for free
Yeah no thanks.

>>14210354
IWC yes. But it's luxury tier.
Laco is frequently shilled, Stowa less so. Both should be about equal I think. They even use same movements is most versions and those are good.
I'm also planning to get one (except Type A), but still indecisive. I like both Stowa and Laco, but it's a bit above my comfortable price and I don't like cheaper versions because they tend to fuck up logos, blued hands or fonts.

>>14210358
That must be IWC.
We literally started with a $10 one.
Shitton of other options in between those prices at every price point.

>>14210099
28, no (googled it just now, and for my idea it probably wouldn't use a cannon pinion).

>>14209906
>haut hology
Do you need a doctor?

>>14210367
Could I interest you in a 150-250 buck Tisell? Doesnt come with a bead blasted FL23883 case though. They also make a 40mm version. The rotor on my 43, however, is possibly the loudest in the world.

>>14210413
They're on my radar as well. I keep them as the fallback option.
The problem is that I can't decide whether to get better expensive watches and regret what I paid for them, or get cheaper and regret I don't have the good ones.
Can they be had for $150 though? They start at 200€ on the official site.
>Doesnt come with a bead blasted FL23883
Neither do the so-called originals, it's 20€ extra

Is this good as a daily beater for a car mechanic that does trash rounds twice a week?

>>14210454
Why don't diver watches have a chronograph when it's really important to know how long it takes you to dive from one place to another and how long does it take to surface and all kinds of precise shit like that?

>>14210464
Tell me how you think you're going to make moving pushers waterproof.

Id on agent harris’ watch in sopranos 3x1?

>>14210467
>Tell me how you think you're going to make moving pushers waterproof.
Same way it's done on already existing diver chronographs? I just don't get why they all don't have the function, since it's intrinsically tied to the activity itself.

>>14210492
You're not supposed to actually use the chrono pushers when it's underwater anon.

>>14210479
timex

>>14210479
The fuck's wrong with your eyes?

>>14210497
Nope, there are many that specifically advertise that you can. Including Seamaster.

https://forums.watchuseek.com/f74/dive-watch-chronographs-pushers-operate-underwater-96035.html

>>14210527
Interesting. Though going by that thread those seem to be the exception, not the rule.

>>14210501
>>14210524
The exact model you dummies

>>14210535
I mean literally all you need is a set of gaskets inside, I can sketch it out on paper right now, it's not rocket science. It should be a standard feature.

>>14210545
I get that much, but a gasketed seal that moves will never be as secure as one that doesn't.

>>14207196
>Stop tainting the good looking ana digi casios with this.
Hey I like vintage anadigi too, but screws aside it's one of the more tasteful modern style anadigis I've found. Plus it was $20 and has all the functions of the good ol' AE-1200, plus more time zones and an automatic velocity calculator.

>>14210479
>>14210538
What's next? You want us to change your diaper for you? Can you not fucking read? What's written under Timex? How fucking lazy are you to not be able to do a 5 second Google search?

>>14210569
kek, that was my shitpost. This thing looks really nice. I even like the screws.

>diver style fat circular indices on a dressy small watch
What were they thinking?

>>14210713
It's not a dressy watch m8.

>>14210713
It's a diving watch. When customers and producers had better taste and a sense for proportions, watches were smaller.
Currently the trend slowly goes towards smaller watches.
Here's a nice example. For me, the less empty space on the dial, the minute lines being closer together and the indices appearing fatter, is much nicer to look at.

>>14210759
Looks like a daddy watch and a mommy watch.

>>14210769
Nah that'd be the 32mm version.

>>14210713
It's not a dress watch, I think they were aiming for the Tudor version or the Rolex explorer 1

Good morning watchgang

>>14210769
Some people might think that, yes. But most of the time nobody actually cares about your watches. I have several small watches and nobody notices the difference if i wear them instead my bigger ones. Only if i talk about watches with friends they notice it. But wearing a watch just for attention is weak anyway, you wear it for yourself.

>>14210777
AWWW THEY HAD A BABBY WATCH

>>14210781
Do you sew your own clothes?

>>14210781
shitteeeer

>>14210785
Is this an /fa/ meme? I got this "animal" jacket from my sponsor tho about 10 years ago. Had a hilfiger like it but it only lasted two.

>>14210115
Dont get one. They are really uncomfortable with the way the lugs are. Lugs should curve around the wrist a little Steinharts are just flat so that the watch and band dont sit well on most peoples wrists.

Ive heard good things about Christopher Wards divers but desu a used Tudor or heck even a Tag Aquaracer isnt a huge jump up from one of them.

>>14210070
Panerai

Which is more classy to the average joe? Tag Heuer or Omega?

>>14210830
Omega is a classic. Tag Heuer, in the words of JCB, is positioned as accessible luxury.

>>14210464
Diver chronos do exist...

>>14210545
It’s more expensive to implement
And as strange as this is going to sound, most people who buy dive watches aren’t actually going diving with them

In face dive computers are superior to mechanical dive watches in every way

>>14210115
I like their other model with the numbers. I like the fake patina coloring and the domed crystal.
Don't listen to him >>14210816
>Christopher Ward
>Tudor
>Tag huehue

Mate, this is just trying too hard. Also the lugs are angled and a bit rounded, retard.

>>14210838
>>14210841
Not familiar with diver chronographs but I do know even waterproof chronographs are not to be operated wet as that would just enable water ingress.

>most boring baselworld in history

more like baszzzzzzzzz..

>>14210777
the snowflake hands look retarded on any non-diver model

tudor should stop trying to push it as their brand design. it looks fucking dumb on their datejusts and chronos

>>14210852
>make a fairly decent homage of an iconic Rolex
>even make the lume look appropriately aged
>make the case 42mm
What a bunch of retards

I'm considering one of these bad boys but it's almost a waste putting spring drive in a chronograph, the smooth sweep won't be noticeable on the small seconds.

>>14210869
Yeah, that also pisses me off. Modern watches are just cancer. (((The wristpresence))) would be the same for a 38 mm version but then they would have been forced to find smaller, premade cases. And god forbid actually putting any amount of extra work in a modern product.

"Suggest a watch for me."
> Your budget
Under $500
> Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, flieger, etc...
diver/pilot and has to have a sapphire crystal
> Desired bracelet option, e.g. leather, nylon, metal
Stainless steel bracelet with toolless micro
adjustment capability
>movement
Hacking and handwinding, 28 800 bph with an independent GMT hand and date function
> Wrist size or desired watch size, e.g. 17cm / 38mm
Lug to lug under 53mm

>>14210907
500. Woah there big guy. Five hundred dollars. Would you like a virgin 10/10 blondie with that as well?

>>14210907
6/10, a bit over the top

>>14210907
Get a used Steinhart ocean GMT and a non branded rolex glidelock style clasp off of ebay, it should fit the steinhart's bracelet.

>>14210921
Thanks man!

What watch should I buy?

>>14210115
Don't fucking do it. It's not a homage it's a copy. Pic related is a homage.

>>14210086
>SNE435
Formerly CHU435

What is Patek's dressy watch to Rolex's Day-Date?

>>14210964
Calatrava

>want a proper Flieger automatic watch with a blue sunburst dial like the limited edition Stowa Flieger Blue dial.
> dont want to fork out 5k for IWC.
What do?

>>14210875
I hate it too, mainly because I have tiny wrists so I'm limited to vintage which isn't always cheap

>>14210907
1/3 of a sinn 104

Timex arrived
Bit disappointed that the date wheel doesn't align perfectly but for £25 it isn't bad
Maybe one day I'll sort that out and do something with the hands.

>>14211003
Diameter/wrist size? I like the proportion.

all i want is a japanese domestic model casio DW-5600BB-1JF and i'm too much of a pussy to buy from randoms on ebay

What do we think of this lads?
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F302952902710

>>14211017
34mm or so, 6.12 inch wrists

Is Seiko's spring drive the ultimate SHTF watch?

>no batteries needed
>a lot less dependent on servicing than a mechanical watch due to the reduced number of moving parts and lack of high-impact escapement (meaning potentially many decades of top performance)
>quartz accuracy

>>14210977
>being retarded
>liking the flieger design

I am not surprised at all.
I had to google "flieger watch blue" and got several results. Do the same, make sure to click on the picture tab. Left click, that is where your right index finger is on the mouse.

>>14211053
A solar G-Shock is more shtf core

>just found out amazon doesn't ship stuff to australia anymore
i'm literally living in a third world country

>>14211053
Wait what?... all these years lurking and i was never bothered to google how the spring drive works because i just refuse to buy expensive watches, even based GS.
>mfw its just a bike dynamo with more steps

>>14211061
The mechanical spring assembly is going to be a lot more reliable than a solar cell though.

>>14211071
The spring directly drives the hands, and the spring also has a "dynamo" which provides current to the quartz, yes.
The magic was getting the quartz regulation to slow down the hands.

>>14209703
Buying a vintage omega.

Constellation, Seamaster or Geneve?

>>14211080

>>14211077
That's a pretty clever and simple system. Reducing moving parts and friction was a great idea. Now i respect seiko even more.

>>14211080
A very easy choice

>>14211071
I too, recently read about its "true" sweeping seconds and know what spring drive is all about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyl7-gHRBX8

>>14211022
They don't look very interesting

>>14211022
Why?

>>14211080
If you can afford it and you care at all about movements, a chronometer 55x/56x/75x family movement in Constellation or Seamaster form is the way to go. They were one of the best series produced automatic movements of the pre-quartz era.

>>14211092
>That timex hand flapping around
Wew

>>14211092
Nice vid, thx.

>>14211093
that's kind of the point. I just want a blacked out durable watch I can put on a nato strap for work

>>14211085
Plus that smooth seconds hand is spellbinding irl.

>>14211053
No, citizens with extra capacitors and g shocks with spare batteries have even less parts.

Hell, a sundial ring is even more reliable as long as the sun doesn't blot out.

>>14211117
>have even less parts.
It's not about less parts, it's about reliability.

>extra capacitors
>spare batteries
They have shelflives.

>>14211117
To be more specific: spring drive has no capacitors or batteries or solar cells, all of which are by nature finnicky and have shelf lives.

With a spring drive, as long as the spring keeps springing and the gears keep gearing, all the electronic components will keep working since it's basically just a chip and a coil.

>>14211133
the difference in wear and tear on the geartrain in a traditional ticking automatic vs the constant motion spring drive might be interesting

>>14211120
Do you really think a spring drive is just going to keep going for 30 years? This is by far the strangest cope I've ever seen.

>>14211148
Well why not?

>>14211148
Honestly it will probably run for 50-70 years without service

I have owned half a dozen 40 year old 7548s that worked fine and had never been serviced and the spring drive is more advanced with no back and forth motion

>>14211151
>>14211160
Watches like that which "have lasted forever" have always been in a drawer for most of it.

I'm looking for something dressy under $500
steel case
sapphire crystal
Automatic movement with hacking and handwinding
White dial with blue hands
Preferably with Roman numerals but I don't really care if it doesn't
Preferably comes with either black or brown leather strap
Open case back would be nice but probably not worth it at this price range

>>14211167
So why wouldn't a spring drive keep going for multiple decades on the wrist?

Mechanical watches (especially when worn all the time) usually keep working for many many decades, with the only drawback that their accuracy turns to shit because the jewels in the timekeeping part (escapement, ...) run out of lubricant or get clogged up by it.

In a Spring drive, the timekeeping is governed by an electromagnetic brake, and lubricant problems would only cause the system to adjust to the friction.

Dufour has shat on quartz watches. You can't fix them with just a watchmaker's lathe and some stock. Mechanical watches last forever. That's his reasoning and I completely agree with it. You just can't make a chip and a capacitor from scratch.

>>14211167
not really, there are tons of quartz watches that have run for decades

look into spring drive the drivetrain only goes one way, it's more like the motor in a fridge than anything else and I have seen 60yo fridge motors that have run every day for that time still going

>>14211174
Because the actual running lifetime on your watches is not 40 years.
>>14211177
Do you make watch parts?

>>14211180
>Because the actual running lifetime on your watches is not 40 years.
Says who?

>>14211180
Doesn't matter if I do or not, his point still stands.

>>14211177
I don't like quartz too but come on anon. Of course he hates quartz he doesn't sell one. It's like tesla shitting on cars that run on gas. Totally biased opinion. Also for most people they can't just ask a watchmaker to make parts for them, you need to buy parts from ETA and other factories. At that rate what's the difference?

>>14211096
Thanks bud.

>>14211183
The point is, a mechanical watch won't ever not be fixed. A wheel is broken and you can't contact anyone in the world for spare parts because SHTF? Just remake it in the lathe. Try making a board from scratch for a quartz.

>>14211033
My wrist is just slightly bigger than yours. I've been considering a seiko dolce (34mm) for a while and your pic kinda convinces me.

>>14211182
No it doesn't, if it's SHTF and you can't make the part then you're better off with an LCD screen watch. This is just like those memesters who say steel bikes are better for touring in remote countries because someone could reweld them, even though you aren't just randomly going to find a welder.

>>14211181
Says virtually every watchmaker who puts the service interval between 3-7 years.

>>14211177
How are you gonna run the lathe

>>14211196
Nice, make sure to post pictures when you get it
It sits nicely on the wrist but that's partially because the strap is flexible

>>14211195
You're delirious.
Only a few companies in the world make balance springs for instance, good luck making shit like that on a lathe.

And why would you want to maintain or even have a mechanical watch after SHTF?
You're losing god knows how many seconds every month, and there's no reference time to adjust to every few weeks.

>>14211195
Have you ever used a lathe (or even cut and file metal)? Do you know what parts to make and how to do it properly?

If the answer to any of these questions is no, then the argument doesn't apply to you.

>>14211195
>a mechanical watch won't ever not be fixed.
Have you ever searched ebay for junk watch parts? They're all mechanical watches that couldn't be fixed.

>>14211198
>(((watchmaker)))
yes goy that will be $200 for your quartz service

>>14211195
>Just remake it in the lathe.

Try remaking it without a lathe, proper drawings with measurements of all the parts in your watch, the raw materials.
Realistically nobody will be able to produce it. Yes, making quartz spare parts is even harder, but in a SHTF scenario you won't need precise time keeping.

Nigga you don't even need to know the exact time in a SHTF scenario just use the sun lmao

>>14211195
Where will you source the steel for the springs? You can't just grab any stainless steel and make it flexible like that.

>>14211198
It honestly seems more realistic that you would come across someone who can weld with a welding shop in the third world than a watchmaker in a SHTF scenario
Hell if shit did hit the fan, I'd rather have a friendly welder neighbour than a friendly watchmaker neighbour

I make escapements and gears with lathes all the time

get on my level

Is the Weekender as loud as they say? Would it be distracting for others during a quiet uni lecture?

If yes, what would be a viable alternative? (fairly small, thin, white dial, minimalist, replaceable straps, cheap)

Thanks!

>>14211198
>Says virtually every watchmaker who puts the service interval between 3-7 years.
Mechanical watches (especially when worn all the time) usually keep working for many many decades, with the only drawback that their accuracy turns to shit because the jewels in the timekeeping part (escapement, ...) run out of lubricant or get clogged up by it.
In a Spring drive, the timekeeping is governed by an electromagnetic brake, and lubricant problems would only cause the system to adjust to the friction.

>>14211229
You forgot that when the oil dries up the parts that need it wear down. Even the spring drive and the co axial still need servicing.

>>14211235
Ideally yes, but surely they'll keep working fine for a bunch of decades before something catastrophic happens.

solar gshock is the legit shtf watch

>>14211199
How were watches made back then before electricity?

>>14211198
>>14211201
>>14211203
>>14211211
>>14211214

Dufour's point wasn't exactly about SHTF scenarios but about watches being lasting forever. A board shits on you, you're fucked until you FIND a replacement, a part in a mechanical watch gets broken and no parts available? A competent watchmaker can and will make it, for a price of course. Take for example, ALS, Haas has explained quite clearly why they're not really into using other uncommon materials, a watchmaker can't easily remake a silicon balance spring from scratch. It's somewhere in here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JidMExXbL0 Can't timestamp it right now but it's a good watch/listen.

>>14211246
>Dufour's point wasn't exactly about SHTF scenarios
I know.
But you brought it up.

>>14211246
>How were watches made back then before electricity?
none of those lathes exist anymore

>>14211252
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7yC2u1obD8

>>14211256
in a SHTF scenario I don't think a roadtrip to some kinda watchmaker museum is going to be a priority

>>14211257
I thought they don't exist anymore?

>>14211260
autism

>>14211246
How do you think people fix old watches? They find donor parts. Very few watchmakers will take a very old watch because of the difficulty of fabricating replacement parts.

This is really more of a "ship of theseus" problem than anything. Why does swapping a movement still make something the same watch, but swapping the board doesn't?

>>14211260
They might as well not exist for how accessible they'd be in the described scenario.

>>14211246
In both cases, someone has to make it for you.

>Quartz
>Just buy three G-Shocks and you're set for life for replacements

>Mechanical
>Hope you're lucky enough to find a watchmaker that has the knowledge, skill, and tools to make replacement parts, and that you can afford whatever price he names (most likely an few hours with your boipussy)
>Mechanicucks still think their watches are better for any serious use, least of all SHTF

>>14211272
This. No one spends several thousand on a luxury watch for SHTF

>>14211257
>>14211262
>>14211266

German watchmaker, restoring watches from scratch and using traditional tools seen in what I've link above: https://www.youtube.com/user/spahlow/videos He's well established, made his own tourbillon and has a couple of watchmaking books out there. Point is, the same tools used back then, are still being used today.

>>14211266
When a watchmaker can't source a replacement, it's definitely easier for him to remake broken wheels, pivots, balance staff, etc... than a circuit board.

>>14211279
point taken but it's still utterly irrelevant to a shtf situation.

You guys think WW2 was fought with quartz watch strapped on their wrists?

>>14211279
>German watchmaker, restoring watches from scratch and using traditional tools seen in what I've link above: https://www.youtube.com/user/spahlow/videos He's well established, made his own tourbillon and has a couple of watchmaking books out there. Point is, the same tools used back then, are still being used today.
Yes and when shit hits the fan you can just air mail your watch across the world to him after creating a work order on the internet so he can begin the laborious process of custom fabbing tiny parts for you since he won't be busy looking for food or anything

In your fantasy "shit hits the fan" scenario I think I could just go to walmart and buy a new $15 casio with battery too

>>14211288
probably. ww2 was in 1974 and the first quartz hit the market in the late 60s so what not

>>14211288
WW2 didn't go on long enough for a watch to need a service

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clock_of_the_Long_Now
>not just getting one of these babies

>>14211288
It sure as fuck would've been if quartz watches existed at the time.

>>14211300
>Clock_of_the_Long_Now
more like clock of the long gay

Does anything beat seiko for cheap watches with great lume?

>>14211350
there is no such thing as great lume, all lume sucks seiko just sucks less than most

>>14211351
I use my Tuna's lume as a flashlight to find my glasses at night.
And that's without having made any special attempts to charge them before bed.

>>14211359

>timex of all brands teasing about something huge and revolutionary coming soon that they will be release

I wonder what it is. They're hyping it up to be as big as quartz was.

>>14211272
>civilization collapse
>oh yea I'm just gonna buy some fresh batteries in the desolate wasteland

top lol at least mechanicals will still work to the hour

>>14210820
Have had in-house movements for years and discontinued all ETA movements last year.

>>14211382
More compact atomic watch.

t. Timex worker

>>14211227
I have a Raketa Kopernic that someone sat next to me in a lecture could hear
I think all memes have origins in truth so others would be able to hear it

>>14211386
plz be true

>>14211382
Clothing line with integrated time display is my bet.

>>14211392
Screen shot my post and show it around when I am proven true.

>>14211404
>Screen shot my post and show it around when I am proven true.
approx cost?

>>14211390
Wow! I fucking love that watch design? Is it worth buying?

>>14209703
>>14209756
>Tourbillion

It's Tourbillon you fucking plebs

>wanting something causes suffering
>make inner peace about unobtainium watches
>still looking for that ONE hidden odd gem that ticks all the boxes and is affordable, even though you dont need it
>want a small diameter WWI trench watch with yuuge arabic numerals and hand-winding
>want an enamel dial dress watch of a vintage manufacture (eterna)
>want a WWII RAF watch because that Longines bullshit caught my eye and already have a flieger
>want a quartz beater with a chrono because reasons
>already have a daily beater, a sporty oddity and an elegant watch, still looking around to add, even though Id have more watches than occasions to wear them each

There are so many shortcuts to get what you want, where you have to compromise but one thing, but I guess the way, searching, is more thrilling than the finish?
I wonder how this hobby of ours compares to other facets of life as cars and...relationships?
What is the genetic or whichever predisposition of humans for "I want this", even if all rationale speaks against it? You dont NEED it to survive, to get through a hard time, there might be better places or better options to invest your money in, but no, FUCK YOU, IT AINT CALLED A BILL OF NEEDS! ?

>>14211509
What do you expect from a faggot who keeps pushing his poorfaggot guide, using the same Lange pics over and over like an idiot.

>>14211487
It's cheap and mine keeps time well enough for slavshit that's used and older than me
I got it for the looks because it does look good. There are quite a few case and dial combinations so spend some time looking for things you like.

>>14211537
I just bought a white dial one for 50 euros :D

It's gonna be my first watch in quite a few years. What do I need to know? How should I clean it?

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>he unironically cares about anything other than rolex

>>14211547

>>14211516
i feel this. wants are almost never rational, pursuing and fulfilling them is in some way the definition of a luxury.
people often talk about needing certain watch types to round out functional requirements (daily beater, dress watch, etc) but i think watch enthusiasts have more in common with art collectors than somebody just trying to complete an outfit.
aesthetic desire is a constant and important part of being human so it works better for me to celebrate the search for things that resonate with me for reasons i don't understand rather than try to reject all desire.

Managed to steal for a good price. Ignore the arm stubble and meme tattoo zone

>>14211547
This is what a real watch collector owns

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrXaGFCij1A

Dropped amphibia for this bad boy recently. I only miss date and idea about strap.

>>14211516
>What is the genetic or whichever predisposition of humans for "I want this", even if all rationale speaks against it?
Currently on a big project at work. If everything goes right it will be my biggest success yet, but only time will tell.
I plan on getting myself an ALS 1815 Chrono then. It’s my grail watch and the perfect trophy to commemorate everything that’s going on in my life.
I use the prospect of getting the watch as a motivation to work harder and once I’ll have it I won’t just be happy I got my dream watch but it will also act as a constant reminder of where putting in the extra mile can get me.

>>14211753
Good luck on your big project anon. Also if you get the watch, can you please post some pictures to shit on GSfags.

>>14211753
wishing you the best anon, in a similar situation myself.

>>14209905
I don't get this, I couldn't wear a diver with the shirt I wear to work because it doesn't fit under my cuff. I'd either have to have a loose cuff which wouldn't look as smart or have it out of the shirt which also would look silly.

>>14211811
This.

I have a real feeling that over the next 10 years or so the dress watch is going to come back big time and the larger thicker watches will fall out of the limelight. I hope for a resurgence of yellow gold too.

Quartz is fucking disgusting, even the finished ones. All they do is add a cover plate and brush it to hid this shit underneath. It's like fake exhaust tips.

>>14211848
>I have a real feeling that over the next 10 years or so the dress watch is going to come back big time and the larger thicker watches will fall out of the limelight. I hope for a resurgence of yellow gold too.
LOL that will never happen that shit is too fucking gay lol people want smart watches and durable watches also gold is $1300 an oz and ur a fag lol gold watches are so fucking old, I am hoping for the return of cool cars like the studabaker with no airbags too LOLOL

I wish people would stop buying the ridiculously priced seiko reissues so seiko will rethink their pricing strategy. At this point they're just pricing their watches higher without that much improvement.
For pic related you can get a pelagos for the same price. Sadly I'm sure all 2500 will sell out.

>>14211884
yeah but it does not have a wall of gay text like the gaylagos

>>14211894
>Seiko

>>14211884
It's priced the same as the 017, which had the same 8L35 movement in it. The finishing looks like it's about the same level as the 017 so why would the price be any different?

Lol at Söyko owners.

>>14211900
>finishing

>>14211880
go to the hospital schizo

richard mille looks like some aliexpress chinkshit and you know I'm right

>>14211921
is that an 009. fuck, i was gunna get it. what affordable diver is not onions?

Tell me about Oris. Are they any good?
Their Aquis Date is 39.5mm, steel, and automatic for 2000.
Is it worth it? I just want a decent diver but Rolex and Omega is out of my range

>>14211925
not an arugment!

>>14211929
Just get what you want and not give a fuck about memes m8.

>>14211932
anyone who spends $2000 US DOLLARS on an ORIS is not a smart man!

OH NON ONONO!

>>14211926
i know what you mean, but its a step up from aliexpress core because the movement is seethrough

>>14211884
>At this point they're just pricing their watches higher without that much improvement.
That watch you posted has a GS movement and zaratsu, for starters.
It's basically a Grand Seiko, and priced accordingly.

Reminder that all the watch companies that went bankrupt during the quartz crisis, or were bought a luxury group, and were founded less than 100 years ago don't have the right to brag about their history.
Rolex Patek and Seiko should be proud of their history.

>>14211936
Why though?
Tell me about it instead of spouting memes

>>14211941
>basically

>>14211941
You söyboys talk about falling for the marketing when you're marketing victims too. Zaratsu is just some marketing term buzzword for black polish named from a machine they nicked off of the Swiss. Fucking Japs and fucking weebs.

>>14211952
>Swiss

>>14211952
Also, these faggots didn't even do their research right, Sallaz is Swiss, not German. They're fucking registered in Switzerland ffs.

>>14211952
>>14211955
Nothing you said changes anything.
Whatever you want to call it, that type of case polish is extremely nice. Marketing has nothing to do with that.

>>14211957
>extremely nice

>>14211954
wow thanks for posting a BRUSHED steel watch like the north flag

>>14211963
>BRUSHED

>>14211952
Reminds of the term 'anglage' for that one anon who can't stop sucking dufour's dick.

>>14211974
>that one anon who can't stop sucking dufour's dick
You mean everyone in the entire watch world?

>>14211948
What?

>>14211974
Dufour likes Zaratsu so much he buys Lange and Rolex.

New thread:

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>>14211968
are you fucking retarded or do you not understand the tudor north flag has a satin matt finishing and not polished? it's not supposed to be shiny normoid

>>14212001
>who cares what Dufour thinks about anglage
>Dufour buys Lange and Rolex haha Grand Seiko BTFO!

Proper new thread when?

>>14212018
Do it, I dare you n*gger.

>>14212018
>Proper

>>14212045
>gger

>>14211952
The point is that those Sallaz machines produce a level of distortion free mirror polishing on watch cases that is unmatched by any other volume watchmaker, and no other volume watchmakers use that style of polishing on cases because it's extremely labour and skill intensive compared to using buffing wheels

>>14211945
Wouldn't that include AP, Casio as well?

>>14212251
>Sallaz

>>14212394
>Casio

>>14212394
>AP