/fa/ - Fashion

morning gents
have a nice weekend

Reminder.

>>14200449
nah

>>14200449
Truth

>>14200449
I get my anOrdain next week. I'll tell you then if I agree.

>>14200454
What did you get and for how much?

I hope you nothing but the best but Micros have always given me buyers regret once I've worn them for a while and then they're a bitch to resell (and not lose money on).

Don't listen to the Youtube shills out there who spruk Squale, etc. They have a terrible resale market.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cr7KBDd3fgM
It's up!

>>14200464
I don't care about the money. I just wanted a cheap shitter that didn't look terrible and wasn't generic. A grand feu enamel dial on a daily beater, why the hell not.

>>14200449

Most are, sure. Some exceptions, like Ming, Meraud and Baltic. And that's probably because theey were started by people that actually know about watches. Armida and Helson are pretty ok as well.

>>14200472
That enamel is great, the hands should be back thought, then it would satisfy my autism.

>>14200449
You clearly weren't here when Obris Morgan was the hot shit. It was based as fuck and the value on that thing was huge.

>>14200506
>Look on Ebay
>A bunch of AU$300 - AU$500 shitters that aren't selling
Awesome.

>>14200516
Just because the npcs haven't been programmed to collect those doesn't mean they are shit watches you faggot.

>>14200440
Time to get some new pics hammybro

>>14200520
Sorry to say, in the real world that means that you've lost a bunch of money on a shit watch that you're stuck with.
But those NPC's with their Rolexes are the problem lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Unn23Q6FfNE
ProducerMichael probably has the most cost per views on youtube ever lol
He literally can't stop buying stuff 24/7

>>14200536
But I just has

>>14200540
Another video that proves money can't buy taste.

>>14200464
>Squale, etc
Squale's been around a long time and, while small, isn't exactly a microbrand in the "please contribute to my gofundme so I can produce my 1000m bronze-cased diver with wacky 70's styling."

>>14200506
Obris Morgan was never the hot shit. A couple of povertyanons who thought they found a way to afford a good watch got excited but, no, it was never taken seriously.

To that guy in the other thread who wanted to know about the Seiko Sea Urchin.
It’s an okay entry level/beater watch but it doesn’t do any you want from an auto (hacking, handwinding). The bracelet is sort of jangly and I don’t care for it, and even the MIJ models have issues with chapter rings being off slightly so save your money and get the Malaysian one if you must.
But realistically save your money and get a better watch with a better movement and better specs. You’ll outgrow it fast and you’ll want more watch. It definitely is a gateway to /wt/.

Another unrelated note is that random non-watch people have asked if it’s a Rolex (I do own one), then give a disappointed “oh” when told it’s a Seiko which is neither here nor there but I thought I’d mention that.

Pic related my beater with a shit leather strap that’s mostly used for yard work/the gym (on a Reddit-tier NATO usually).

> 20th Anniversary Limited Edition
> Diameter: 44.5mm (!!)
> Thickness: 14.3mm (!)
> Dial Color: Olive
> Price: $10,600

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

>>14200568
Yeah, what the fuck is going on with Grand Seiko's pricing? It's like they're picking numbers randomly from a hat. One piece will be a bargain, and the next laughably overpriced.

>>14200563
>random non-watch people have asked if it’s a Rolex (I do own one),

>I'm not poor, I swear.

What's the consensus on Sellita vs ETA? I've been eyeing the Sinn 356 but that fucking SW500 caliber keeps bothering me. I wonder if serviceability/reliability will be a problem, since I saw a thread or two in the past on WUS showing how Sellita movements have weird teeth on their gears n shit compared to their ETA originals. どうしよう, bros?

my 2 favorites

>>14200570

Most of them are pretty overpriced. Who would pay Rolex money for a phucking Seiko, anyway?

>we want the arab audience

>AND the basketball american audience

>>14200588
>Who would pay Rolex money for a phucking Seiko, anyway?


me

>>14200590

I get the niggercore blinged out GS, but how is this catering to arabs? Is it the thickness? I thought arabs and niggers liked the same iced out niggercore watches.

>>14200588
They're considerably less expensive than their equivalent Rolex. Your basic Datejust runs around 6k now. The Grand Seiko equivalent, like an SBGR253 is about 4k.
>inb4 weeb shit
They look boring on paper, but you actually need to handle one to get a feel for what they're doing. They are, near as possible, perfectly made. Also, they're not made in the same facility as your SARBs. They are essentially a company within the company that does their own thing, uses their own movements, etc.

They're no joke.
Yeah, "just a Seiko" but that's also part of the point. If you want to to impress others, buy a Rolex. If you want to be impressed, buy a Grand Seiko.

>>14200603
Same people, same taste in watches.

https://caviar.global/caviar-iphone-11-11plus/grand-complications-toubillon/

>>14200629
jesus, now you REALLY can't drop your phone.

This is kind of cool.

Legit 30ATM diver with a display caseback

>>14200629
>that crown position
why

>>14200638
What's so cool about that? The latest Seamaster 300M has a display caseback.

>>14200638
If you're not going to put any work whatsoever in finishing your off-the-shelf movement, why do you need a display back?

>>14200638

>>14200679
Oh. Oh, no. God, no.

>>14200568
>>14200586
>>14200590
>44.5mm (!!)
>14.3mm (!)
So it's a little wider, but a little slimmer than a Rolex Deepsea.
What's the problem?

>>14200593
That's a 28mm chick watch you retard.

>considers himself a watch expert
>doesn't keep up with the latest developments in strap technologies

I bet all of you just carry on with shitty NATO's and croc inspired calf leather straps

>>14200383
"i literally cannot find anything by that number. do i search somewhere specific or is that all i can do? thanks" - from previous thread, if anyone can help out, thanks.

>>14200497
>I'm 99% certain they were released in 83.
That spencer guy on youtube had a jdm giugaro on there and said it was an 82 model. He seems to know a bit about them.

>>14200611
This is all fine and well, but the GS is a watch nerd's watch. Normies will still scoff at you and just blankly nod and agree as you tell them about how they're made in a different facility and how they have a higher BPM and better accuracy than a Rolex, and why you paid $10k for it. They'll nod and wonder why you paid that much when you could've got a "real" watch.

>>14200725
>Normies will still scoff at you
Oh no, not the normies.

And no, they won't. Nobody cares what you have on your wrist.

>>14200695
The problem is that it isn't a fucking dive watch.

>>14200611
> They're considerably less expensive than their equivalent Rolex
That is no longer true. Grand Seiko are trying to now market themselves as an high end brand on-par with Rolex and are increasing their prices accordingly.

When GS were competing on price with brands like Tudor, Omega and Zenith they always came out well. Now they are going to b e competing with brands like Rolex, Jaeger LeCoultre and even entry level Audemars Piguet. That is a tough sell for anyone looking to purchase at that price point.

>>14200734
>The problem is that it isn't a fucking dive watch.
And?
Also, it's 200m water resistant.

>>14200741
> it's 200m water resistant.
that doesn't mean what you think it means. noobs always fall for this.

>>14200725
I disagree. "Normies" don't care about watches at all. They stopped wearing them years ago when they realized their phones had a perfectly accurate clock in them.
The only brands they know are Rolex and Timex.
Any conversation with them always goes like:

>Hey, that's a cool watch
Thanks it's a 1982 [watch babble for longer than is socially appropriate]
>Yeah, that's a neat color on the face. How much something like that run you?
[give price. any price above 200 dollars.]
>Woah! I'm mean, it's something you love so that's cool for you. I'd never pay that much, my wife would skin me alive, haha.

So the only people that care at all are watch nerds. And if you can find a watch nerd who doesn't know Grand Seiko in 2019, you've probably talking to someone who's 75 years old.

>>14200741
>Grand Shitko apologist
>MUH 200m RESISTANCE MEANS I CAN DIVE TO THE TITANIC RUINS WITH IT
Lol.

>>14200734
>That is no longer true.
It literally is.
The SBGR253 is still being made, and is still the same price.

>When GS were competing on price with brands like Tudor, Omega and Zenith they always came out well. Now they are going to b e competing with brands like Rolex, Jaeger LeCoultre and even entry level Audemars Piguet. That is a tough sell for anyone looking to purchase at that price point.
Why is that a tough sell?

>>14200746
>>14200750
Triggered.

>>14200709
>Looks like an Orient ref. F42G-07

Try it with two Gs instead of 2G.

>>14200725

Why would you mention what it cost you? If you would you'd have bought a Rolex.

>>14200727
Then go wear a $1 DW replica, nobody cares right?

>>14200734
>Grand Seiko are trying to now market themselves as an high end brand on-par with Rolex and are increasing their prices accordingly.
What is an example of a Grand Seiko that is more expensive than its Rolex equivalent?

The GS SBGA229, Spring Drive Diver is 6,000 MSRP.
The GS SBGH255, Hi-Beat Automatic Diver, is 9,600 MSRP
The Rolex equivalent, the Sub 116610LN, is 12,000 MSRP.

Aside from the freakish limited edition ones, GS is always cheaper.

>>14200766
Because I care.

>>14200754
It's a tough sell because of the very name on the dial.

>>14200773
"Badge whore": the argument.

>>14200746
Don't confuse Diver's 200m vs normal 300m. Seiko uses the ISO 6425 standard. That's not just normal static pressure testing.

Don't worry about it. There's only a couple thousand people on earth who actually dive that deep on a regular basis.

>>14200774
Price a Mercedes and a Honda the same price and people would choose the Mercedes.

>>14200778
That depends entirely on the models.
Tons of people bought Nissan GTRs instead of Porsches.

>>14200725
>and why you paid $10k for it.
No, no. Don't do this. That's so gauche. You're the reason that the mouthbreathers then go up to the next guy wearing an expensive-looking (to them at least) watch and start hooting.
>Hurr, how much you pay fer that purdy ticker on yer wrist?

Serious questions, why did Americans never learn that wealth comes with a certain set pf expectations of behavior and conduct?

>>14200778
Price a Mercedes and a Honda equivalently AND SPEC THEM EQUIVALENTLY.

Unless, of course, your premise is that Grand Seiko is inherently and markedly inferior to Rolex strictly in terms of design and manufacturing.

Seiko will always be seen as discount brand, period. Offering high-end European designs for less. That is their true image.

>>14200778
>>14200773
>>14200734
>>14200725
This is some next-level snobbery. Are you an Arab?

>>14200791

>>14200798
I would love an Oysterquartz Day Date

>>14200798
>they don’t look similar at all. Even the numbers on the bezel is different
>standard vintage dress watch design + as different as they could be from each other
>Rolex is older
>Standard vintage perpetual calendar and moon phase design. You can find hundreds of old brands with watches exactly like those

>>14200811
Denial harder, I dare you.

>>14200775
Dive computers have mostly replaced dive watches for most enthusiast divers. Admittedly a lot still keep use one as a backup. Dive watches are more fashion than tools these days

>>14200782
>Serious questions, why did Americans never learn that wealth comes with a certain set pf expectations of behavior and conduct?

Because it doesn’t

>>14200791
Besides the submariner the seikos look just as nice if not better

I would love to get the seiko homage of the explorer ii

>>14200782
>Serious questions, why did Americans never learn that wealth comes with a certain set pf expectations of behavior and conduct?

They never had a nobility. The upper classes in older, more civilized countries have been taught that they are obligated to rule. If they rule poorly, they are right to be overthrown by the masses.

Wealthy Americans, most of whose families have been wealthy since 1992 when Shaniqua's kid grew 2 feet over the summer and developed a great mid-range jump shot, then got drafted into the NBA, just see money as something to be spent as loudly as possible.

>>14200816
t. nouveau riche cranky that others thought him foolish for putting 22's and a fart can on his Ferrari.

>>14200811
>>Rolex is older

Vacheron Constantin, founded 1755
Blancpain, 1735
Patek Philippe, 1839
Audemars Piguet, 1875 (new boy)

Rolex, 1905

>>14200824
lel

>>14200816
Yeah, keep talking to and hanging out with non-rich people when you get rich. See how that goes.

>>14200440
my brother, it's time to go over to >>>/fit/
how much do you weigh?

>>14200767
Those are old models. It the new models that are getting the increase in MSRP.

Look at the new Spring Drives from Basel and the cheapest is almost $8k. That anniversary edition is over $10k.

>>14200840
He has a mechanical keyboard, how much do you think he weighs?

>>14200568
(((limited edition)))
>>14200845
lmfao, I'm just trying to point him in the right direction

Makes sense you guys a bunch of overweight fucks since this general was originally from /g/. Diabetic weebs obsessed with Seiko, a shocker!

>>14200843
Those are current models in their catalogue. They didn't discontinue their regular production models Also, Rolex has never increased prices either.

But, like I asked earlier, what Grand Seiko costs more than its Rolex equivalent?

>>14200843
>Those are old models.
Still in production, still the same price.

>It the new models that are getting the increase in MSRP.
Pic related was released a few months ago, is a completely new style for GS, and is $3.3k.

>>14200860
>pic related

>>14200850
fat guys love watches since it's basically their only way to be effay. A Speedy Pro will always be a Speedy Pro no matter how bloated a wrist you wrap it around.

They can't ever get nice clothes in nice fits. They can't get good footwear since their giant, waterlogged ankles require prescription shoes and compression socks. They can't even get a good haircut since their fat heads and necks distort the rest of their scalp out of proportion.

>>14200843
Pic related was released less than a year ago, is also a completely new case style for GS, and is $2.7k.

>>14200866
>>14200875
Is wearing gold considered tacky in Japan or something? It seems like the prefer steel even for thin dress watches.

>>14200872
Here's a diabetic patient from a different thread, some faggot called me a newfag for making fun of him as if that fatass being an oldfag makes it all okay. The people in /wt/ are obese Jap-obsessed weebs and people who think fake croc is proper leather.

>>14200875
Why is it so blocky?

>>14200000

>>14200880
They've been making many of their new models in steel, gold, and platinum versions.

Rate my collection

>>14200896
the box is the nicest part of it.

>>14200896
Is the yachtmaster fake?
Are they all fake?

>>14200568
Only thing nice is the bezel. Ugly ghetto liquor dial, blocky we wuz kangs pyramic case.

garish, tasteless shit. nigger chain tier
if only even just 0.01% of all your wasted billions went to my bank account, i'd have a gf

>>14200875
I actually prefer the Seiko - Grand Seiko dial. Bottom half of the dial looks empty now.

also this is what I do to every watch thread
[-]

>>14200910
They're all fakes. Calm your tits.

>>14200840
I’m 150
I may post a new wrist check later this weekend.

>>14200917
Do it when you're 125 fatty.

>>14200905
You've been looking at Rolexes for too long and believe that spamming your dial with the name of every trademarked feature on the watch is normal.

the Seiko-GS-Grand Seiko dials never looked right because they mixed so many typefaces on a single dial. It looked weird.

>>14200917
how tall are you? DYEL?

>>14200896
Congratulations. There are bad fakes, there are ugly fakes but you managed to have both ugly & bad fakes.

asked last thread for a watch recommendation. Been feeling to cop either seiko, casio, or citizen. I've browsed the seiko diver series and I quite liked them but still looking to browse casio and citizen.

Any recommendations for casio/citizen model/series?

>>14200922
I used to be 119 when I was a young fag like you but then real life came.

>>14200969
how much are you looking to spend?

>4th hole in strap is loose and the watch turns upwards on the wrist
>5th hole in strap 0.5cm further leaves marks on wrist and is uncomfortable

Fixed hole straps are bullshit, how do I remedy this? On a metal bracelet I fixed the issue by making one end longer, but textile/leather straps are odd.

>>14200983
fap more, wrist will get stronger and thicker
fap less, wrist will get more slender.

>>14200969
Citizen BN0150. You can get it for $130.

>>14200969
This

>>14200999

great watch

>>14200979
probably 500$ tops might buy something pricier if I really like to model but nothing more than 650$

>>14200999
this doesn't look bad, do the bezel come in different color?

>>14201006
I'm looking to find watches that have more of a silver color, never fond of the shiny gold-looking watches. but thanks for the rec also what's the price on that one?

>>14201021
Around 200 all ecodrive cost the same more or less

>>14200791

No. Seiko is a company that have run their business smart and as a result they can offer a premium line that can actually compete with the dinosaurs.

>>14201036
Suuuuure. That's why Seiko is getting killed atm by Apple.

>>14201036
Still telling when people are buying "dinosaurs" to celebrate milestones instead of Seikos.

>>14201036
Reality: people turning their noses once they find out your totally-not-a-Rolex-homage Seiko is a Seiko.

Seiko "Tribute to Ghetto Cocktails" Edition

>>14201049
What reality is this? No one outside of the WIS fucking cares about watches.

You know what watch has garnered the most comments from non-watch people? My beater quartz Seamaster, because the dial is bright blue and I wear it on a blue rubber strap.

You buy a watch for yourself and no one else. If you want to get attention from random strangers, get a facial tattoo.

I can't believe the other people on this thread that also like Swiss act like they've never gone outside. They should be ashamed of themselves.

>>14200834
Obviously I meant: THAT Rolex in particular is older than the Audemars Piguet, which is supposed to be imitating.

>>14201037

How's that?

>>14201039

I'm sure some will buy a Seiko.

>>14201049

Your autism isn't everyone's autism.

>>14200969
MDV-106
Also, the entry level automatic Seiko divers at that price are outclassed by Orient Mako/Ray and the quartz are outclassed by
>>14200999
And are only worth it once you get to the Seiko Marinemaster line.

>>14200834
And you must be a retard btw, since you didn’t manage to realize that each line of greentext was referring to each row of pictures. I didn’t mean the Rolex brand was older than any of the others.
Seriously, sometimes I think /wt/ is full of of double-digit IQ posters, probably most of them Americans.

>>14200896
cool case I suppose

>>14201157
It's filled with obese, diabetic /g/ weeb neckbeards, lower your expectations.

>>14201157
Yeah. you're right. All of Rolex's designs are entirely original, every single design by every other maker is derivative of a Rolex design.

I don't know how you can strictly even consider what other companies make as wristwatches, since Rolex is the standard and everything made by every other manufacturer is inferior.

If you're in the market for a watch and you don't buy a Rolex, you have utterly failed and you should cut your arms off at the elbow since you don't actually need wrists.

>>14201149
>tfw most of the actual /wt/ pics are Japanese watches and other neat shitters and the rest of the thread is larping about watches they don't even have

What would a /wt/ meetup look like? Here's /k/.

Anon with the full lume citizen, are you still here? Does it get annoying after a while? Thinking of getting one.

>>14201149

We're on 4chins, what do you expect, man.
Some guy posted his incredible vintage Tudor sub a while ago and it got shitted on.

>>14201222
I prefer things to stay anonymous, that way I can pretend the people I regularly talk to aren't all overweight and poorly dressed.

>>14201222
What the fat fuck??

Ok, im quiting /k/ forever. That people's opinion isnt worth shit imo.

>>14201289
you're a fucking idiot of you take advices form 4chanaland

Best Milgauss clone?

>>14201311
the left one

AANNND we're live!
https://youtu.be/B4H-s1cXkc8

>looking at watches in a high-end department store
>ask the staff member if a watch is quartz
>she has no idea what I mean
>"Do you mean the brand?"

>>14201151
The likes of Casio and Seiko are getting killed at the low end by the Apple Watch.

Evening 4channel

>>14201329
on the other hand, when you do find a salesman who is legitimately passionate about watches, it can be an enjoyable shopping experience.

>in Las Vegas
>walk into Omega Boutique at the Bellagio on a whim
>browse around
>salesman is a total watch geek
>no hard sell, just really liked talking about watches.
>ended up buying a Globemaster, partially because I really wanted to give this guy my business.

>>14201331
Here's a (you) for mentioning this twice in the same thread. I admire your persistence.

>>14201222
It would be me with my superior genetics, expensive clothing, high intelligence and Tudor Black Bay, and then a bunch of weeb incels obsessed with their fucking shitters.

>>14201363
>high intelligence
>Tudor Black Bay
Not high enough to recognize a "let's sell a cut-rate Sub to middle class buyers, we'll give it disjointed styling so they don't notice" when you see one.

>>14201331
An Apple watch is ten times the price of most casios and seikos. You can get gshocks that cost £400 but they're only for enthusiasts

>>14201329
yeah, me too bud.

>>14201368
The Tudor Heritage Black Bay is right up there with offerings from Patek and AP in terms of quality and general fit and finish. It offers remarkable value and truly is the watch of choice for gents with an eye for quality and sophistication.

>>14201375
>The Tudor Heritage Black Bay is right up there with offerings from Patek and AP in terms of quality and general fit and finish.
Hey! That's complete bull--...oh, wait. you got me. Fuck.

>>14201329
>expecting a dept store $9/hr retard to know anything
your fault desu

>>14201390
Are you calling him a liar?

>>14201431
>with an efe for quality
I spy with my little efe

Its growing on me.

>>14201446
Wonder if these will be dirt cheap when nobody buys them. Or maybe second hand prices will drop.

>>14201446
>Hey Tudor Exec 1, Seiko SKXs are popular let's make one.
>I dunno, Tudor Exec 2, I would imagine people might call that sort of unoriginal. We do have a reputation to uphold.
>You're right...I know! Let's scour our archives, find something that vaguely resembles it, and call it a vintage re-issue!
>Brilliant! You had me at 'vintage'.

>>14201446
I like the general aesthetic but it's too big and the lugs are too long.

>>14200791
>the swisshill fears the samurai

I can feel your unconvincing voice shaking from here

>>14201471
What the fuck makes you think this watch is like a SKX??

>>14201480
>Harley-Davidson, Ducati, Rolex, Apple, Reddit
How do certain brands just end up with un-thinking cults formed around them?

>>14201446
> GMT bezel
> 60 click.
Fucking Tudor, man.

>>14201446
I think Tudor is beginning to run out of steam. They've probably mined-out their design history of actual cool designs. I think they're in that, "let's try something really quirky" phase.

Then it will be "This is the whole new direction for Tudor".

Then it will be "Rolex SA has announced that Tudor will be withdrawing from the European and North American markets to focus more on emerging markets in the third world."

>>14201505
I like tudor designs but I could never spend thousands on a discount brand. It would just always remind me that I couldn't afford a rolex

>>14201506
This. They definitely have fun designs but that will never compensate for wearing the poor man's Rolex.

What are some watches that go well with the #menswear/SEXcore aesthetic? The bigger the better.

>>14201446
If it was 39 mm with minute instead of gmt bezel, and lower side of metal lug bracket was gone, would be pretty cool

>>14201512
>>14201506
Talking about “discount brands”, could Longines be considered a poor man’a Omega? I think their designs and history are way too independent for that statement even if they are currently within the same group, but I’m just wondering what’s /wt/‘a opinion.

>>14201528
>SEXcore
>bigger the better
Invicta has plenty of that shit.

>>14201528
Fuck off with your tired forced meme you underaged zoomer.

>>14201537

Longines is too much of a mall brand right now to garner any real respect despite their history. It's the kind of watch middle class parents get their kids for their university graduation.

>>14201544

*get for their kids when they graduate from university.

>>14201544
Damn, right in the feels.

Can't stop looking at these vintage rolexes. It's been two years now.
I should get one.

>>14201537
Tudor specifically exists so Rolex could sell cheaper watches to working class customers without having to compromise Rolex quality. That's what makes it a poor man's brand.

I would not agree that Longines is a poor man's Omega. Longines was never a wholly owned subsidiary of Omega AFAIK until they were both subsumed under the Swatch umbrella. They were competitors for most of their history.

>>14201544
And Seiko? From 50 dollar shitters to Rolex copies to Xk pieces.

Would.they ever bring this back?

>>14201554
>I should get one.
You should, but be careful. There's a LOT of dodgy crap out there, especially with DateJusts. The vintage Rolex world is a shark tank.
You think you're getting a good deal, when it's just a kit-bashed Frankenstein of some real parts and some Chinese parts, all hiding behind the fact that Rolex has made millions of these things and weren't always as rigorous about parts sourcing as they are now.

Spend a little extra and get something that has the boxes, the papers, and, importantly, the service records.

>>14201561
Seiko is for people that want a watch that will work reliably but they can't/don't want to pay too much for one.

>>14201554
>tfw my oldest brother got this very same 80s Rolex from my dad after graduation
>tfw when I graduated he offered me his old steel and gold Breitling Chronomat but I politely rejected it because I didn’t dig it as much as him and I wouldn’t ever sell a watch that belonged to my dad, even if it would have been tempting because I would have been able to buy a watch I like better

Honestly, I envy my brother. He doesn’t even wear it.

>>14201561

Well, the huge range of prices they offer their products at is because they're japanese. I heard they don't have a strict "high/low" prestige distinction when it comes to brands, but that may be just bullshit.

>>14201553

That doesn't make them any worse mechanically speaking, it's just that they don't have the street cred of Rolex or Omega among normies.

>>14201554

Stay on your toes. The vintage Rolex market is almost as bad as the vintage Omega market. 90% of people are trying to fuck you over at any given time. Never order if it's from India.

>>14201570
No, they're specifically trying to separate the design language of Tudor and Rolex, to allieviate some of the perception of >>14201512

Wrist check. Post em

>>14201584
>I heard they don't have a strict "high/low" prestige distinction when it comes to brands, but that may be just bullshit.
Basically true. Same as with Japanese car brands, which sold everything from cheap little economy cars up to luxury cars and sports cars under the same brand name.

Seiko is more like a watch conglomerate operating several production chains under a single name, like if Swatch were to operate Swatch, Tissot, Longines, Omega, Certina, Mido etc all under one name and and rely on product lines and price points to distinguish them to consumers rather than brands.

Hell, most people don't even realize that the quartz and spring drive models aren't made by the same company as the mechanical models, and that the quartz and spring drive models largely have separate design and production chains than the mechanical models as a result.

Seiko has always struggled to clearly define its product tiers effectively in the minds of consumers and this really continues today where they sell waaaaay too many product tiers under the Presage and Prospex lines.

>>14201661
maratac nato on seagull 1963

What's the best 7750 based shitter chrono on the market?

>>14201667
Doesn’t matter. They have the same global customers just like the rest of European brands being called a shitter brand.

What's the best non-Rolex GMT watch and why?

a kickstarter watch that is actually unique
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mycotech/the-worlds-first-mushroom-wooden-watch

>>14201760
Anything that's a "true" GMT, i.e. the hour hand is slaved to the 24-hour hand and can be adjusted independently in jumps. Anything beyond that comes down to personal style.

The old Seamaster GMT "Great White" is a good example.

Something a little quirkier and way more pilot-like is the Glycine Airman Purist. That's a 24-hour watch with two independently adjustable hands and a rotating, lockable 24-hour bezel. Once you spend enough time flying, you start thinking in terms of 24-hour days instead of day and night.

>>14201802
Don't shill your fucking bullshit here

>>14201812
>Anything that's a "true" GMT, i.e. the hour hand is slaved to the 24-hour hand and can be adjusted independently in jumps. Anything beyond that comes down to personal style.
>The old Seamaster GMT "Great White" is a good example.

Would that be based on ETA 2893?

>>14201819
Not necessarily. Those offer a GMT complication but, unless modified, they allow the user to change the GMT hand without moving the hour hand, not the proper way.

The GMT hand is the one you're supposed to set once, to your home time or UTC+0 or whatever, then the hour hand skips around depending on where you are on the planet.

Is this the best chronometer certificatied mid-tier shitter you can get at the moment?

>>14200435
suggest a watch
>budget
1-3k
>watch type
diver
>desired bracelet option
metal
>desired watch size
38-40mm

>>14201760
Probably the new Basel 2019 Black Bay GMT.

>>14201708
No one was talking to (You).

>>14201880
used: an Omega Seamaster, there's thousands out there at that price, many of which are easily found in spectacular shape.

new: Oris Aquis 39.5. It's on the lower end of the scale, but your size requirements make it tricky. Divers tend to be ~42mm Also, Rado Captain Cook Hyperchrome,

Best strap for a black Kopernic?

thoughts?

I do not own any watches right now, and I want something that is durable.
My budget is 200 €

>>14201916
Get an f-91w and an orient bambino or a timex marlin.

>>14201916
Assuming you want something analogue, a Citizen BN0150 is going to be the most durable analogue watch you can buy with that money.

>>14201937
>>14201954
thank you Anons I will look into those

Anyone know how much these are going to cost?

>>14202043
395USD for gold, 295USD for stainless and PVD black.

>>14202051
Thanks. What do you think?

Is there a better watch for flexing on poorfags?

>>14202069
poorfags don't know what tudor is

pls don't stay sober, guys

>>14202077
Kind of ironic when you think about it.

>>14202069
Any rolex or the latest apple watch

>>14202093
Please don’t keep posting the same pics of your shitter.

>>14202099
this one?

BASED ARCHIE
TGV BTFO LMAO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=of-6xElvkiQ

I don't need it... I don't need it...

>>14202146
at least there's no gap in it

I got this watch for free from a relative. They swear it's real. The band is too small for my wrist and is missing a bolt, should I even bother with this?

>>14202177
no gap in what?

>>14202181

The automatic version has the subdials far apart

>>14202179
It's either fake or lady size, in either case it's worthless.

>>14202192
oh yeah I know that

>>14201661
nice watch

>>14202198
Why are there so many fucking anons here with that butt ugly seamaster

>>14202199

It's one of those divisive styles that appeals to some people while everyone else thinks it looks like shit. Me being one of them.

Then again I think the Explorer is the greatest 3 hander of all time but I am aware of plenty of people who also think it is one of the ugliest watches ever.

At least we can all agree that the Alpinist is a piece of garbage, made for garbage people.

>>14202222
How fat are you?

>>14202053
It's a little too 2hip4u, I think. I imagine the people buying these definitely sport a wide variety of tattoes, some of them ironic.

>>14202222
You have to be at least 40 years old with that much arm hair and those age spots.

What are you even doing on 4channel?

>>14202222

Also, in that pic you can see why the Mercedes hour hand is very useful on a small watch. It lets you know it's exact position when it happens to be under the minutes hand.

I hope that all of you have learned something here today.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

~~~~~
Live Hard DIE HARD

>>14202237

Not very desu. Actually somewhat skinny.

>>14202243
>age spots.

Don't you talk shit about my beauty moles.

>40

I'm not even 33 yet.

>>14202222
>That much money to shitpost.
What you do for a living?

>>14202256

It's not that much, an older Explorer is cheaper than some of the rigs /v/ and /g/ people spend on their gaming rigs and battle stations.

>What you do for a living?

I manage code monkeys and ensure that they put out good work.

>>14202260
Ah the old stealing till the tech buble collapses again.

I wanna cop but ima wristlet. Any alternatives ?

>>14202266

There is literally nothing wrong with plundering

>>14202283
yeah consider ending yourself from remove all attributes

This is my shitposting watch

>>14202285
Shit that was a fun film

>>14202222
beautiful watch man. witched back to my skx after taking the seamster pic ;)

i agree with you though. i understand why people dont like the seamaster. i personally like it (wouldnt have bought one if I didnt).

>>14200629
Wait... Are you serious?

all dive watches are shitters

>>14202354
If that's really yours clean the bracelet you animal

>>14200773
They fucked up calling it Grand Seiko. What if Lexus was Grand Toyota...

>>14202179
Because it is real. Extra links can be purchased, I don't know what you mean by bolt.

>>14202602
In many cases the lexus is less luxurious and equipped than the equivalent toyota so it's not an apt comparison

>>14202694
No it literally is. Stop being such a sperg about it.

Lexus is Toyota's premium/prestige arm, irrespective of getting a car with less features/options, what you're paying for is the prestige of the name on the badge.That is what Grand Seiko is trying to do. Though since Grand Seiko does have its own heritage it would be silly to rename it ala Lexus, Infinity, Acura etc.

>snorkel

>>14202726
Lexus was mainly a foreign market thing. They didn't even sell lexus in japan until later in the brands life. In their own market, the best models were still badged as toyotas, the emperor and his family ride in toyotas, not lexus.
The seiko/GS thing is different in that GS was a jdm-only brand that is now venturing overeas. It's the opposite of lexus in that regard.

>Baselworld
>Omega doing more limited edition Speedies

Is Swatch group memeing?

>>14202756
Omega isn’t even at Baselworld. Wait till May.

>>14202739
Save for the date window that actually looks pretty neat. Tell me the crystal is sapphire at least.

>>14202763
Oh shit, I misread someone's reply ITT.

>>14202756
What's their cringiest limited edition? Ultra-man?

>>14202768
The one literally based on a reddit meme.

>>14202770
what

>>14202771
https://www.omegawatches.com/watches/speedmaster/moonwatch/speedy-tuesday-limited-edition/product

>>14202775
(also, to be fair it's pretty nice if you don't give a shit about the reddit connection)

>>14202777
What is the connection?

>>14202770
>>14202775
#SpeedyTuesday is an Instagram thing you boomer. You think they use hashtags on Reddit?

>>14202781
Shows how much I give a shit about any of those cancerous sites. You'll still get a lot of shit if you search 'speedy tuesday' on reddit.

>>14202784
Nah, it just shows your age grandpa.

>>14202784
>He doesn't fap to e-thots and ahegao on The Gram
You just have to know where to look on IG my dude.
>tfw IG has way better watch taste than Reddit and actually calls out fakes instead of being a hugbox

>>14202784
Right, I forgot obese weebs like you are so cool for hating muh social media.

>>14202784
>Hates social media
>On /fa/
Did you mean to visit the /wt/ on /g/ or some shit?

>>14202790
Really clean watch, but personally not feeling the strap choice.

>>14202788
Ahegaos weren't hot in 2D and much worse in 3D imo.
>>14202793
I just find the social media defense force being on this mongolian basket weaving forum a bit weird.

>>14201363
You just KNOW....

>>14202796
nothing looks good on it, can only put nato on it

>>14202804

that nato is definitely too busy. i also hate the white date wheel with the black dial, very cheap look

>>14202809
I wish it had no date, I prefer the colors of the nato. I have black/green and a fuckton of other colors but it's too boring. For 250 I still like it tho (Black friday), double domed sapphire, miyota, superluminova, some other shit

Been offered £200 for my bishop...
It has been made redundant by my promaster so thinking of selling to get something more vintage and interesting? What would you do with a spare £200-300?

>>14202804
I think a simple black leather strap or a green/khaki nylon strap could suit the simple lines and military aesthetic.

Though those lugs looking Hammy Khaki levels of long so NATO is probably your only choice.

>>14202832

i would definitely sell it for that

>>14202836
I have green/khaki, they are just kind of boring. And the lug to lug isn't long at all, they are just dead straight so it looks like that

>>14202069
No, this is according to the master.

>>14201554

Buy the seller. What the other anons said is true, it's a minefield. Spend a little more for a good one at a good dealer. The premium for box and papers don't mean much to me, unless there are service papers. A box and papers are easily found to match a watch, so they don't say much, service papers are a different story. If the watch was brought in and had fake/wrong parts it would have been rejected by Rolex.

>>14202832
How much did you buy it for?

>>14202848
Not that anon but I've been saving for a few years for a 14270 since I prefer the 36mm size and I find the rolexrolexrolex rehaut obnoxious. But after some research there are just way too many things to look out for I think I'm just gonna get the 214270 in the end. I can live with the 3mm difference and the rehaut is not that bad when you see it in person.

>>14202849
£160 ish.

>>14202853
>>14202848
Recently I purchased a vintage Rolex and these are good tips. Especially about buying the seller, and also remember that if it's too good to be true, it usually is.
Also as you've mentioned original papers/boxes are a nice bonus but easily available to "legitimise" a fake listing (where all you have is pictures). I saw a GMT Batman on the Bay and the card/papers had a Subbie reference on it. I bought mine from a bricks and mortar jewellers who also had pics with the back off and of the movement etc. If the seller is a watch/jewellery shop and won't do that for you then pass.

Also just an aside to the other anon, when it comes to my watch purchasing always hold out and don't ever settle for something that isn't exactly what you want. I personally would just be reminded of how much I'd want the 14270 everytime I'd look down at it. One will pop up at the right price eventually.

What type of strap for a Type-A brushed stainless flieger? No leather or nato.

>>14202872
I only buy my second hand watches from brick & mortar shops. This risk buying online for watches like Rolex is far too high for me. The watch will have also been services and confirmed to be in good working order.

>>14202844
Like A Boss.

>>14202877

leather or nato, actually

Why don’t watch movements at Basel world run at all, despite not being on the hacking position? Do they actually remove the balance wheels of the movements in order to expose the watches showing 10:10 time?
Ive noticed it happens with every video that shows watches being exposed there.

https://youtu.be/uJnutPqpQVM

>>14202877
Brown leather + Fliegers should be always the only option

>>14202904
Forgot pic

So where the fuck are all the Swatch group releases? Omega? Hamilton?

>>14202899
They lock it at 10:10 because it's the most pleasant display

>>14202899
There is no movement in the watch. They're just displays.

>>14202908
Diameter?

>>14202912
That’s what I thought
>>14202914
Are you sure they remove the entire movement? That could mislead visitors into thinking the watches are lighter than they actually are. I wouldn’t be surprised if they fitted something with similar weight and size inside.

>>14202917
37mm and 7mm tall. People dislike Aristo for some reason but I love this model which is light and slim as fuck with its titanium case. Also it used the same ETA movement as most Tissots and Longines for a fraction of the price ( I paid 200€)

>>14202923

MVMT watches really aren't that cheap, whats the point of this brand again?

>>14202910
They’ll have their own “Baselworld” in May apparently

>>14202923
Well I've never heard of the brand. But the size and thickness suit your wrist very well. And you can't really complain at that price. I used to have a steinhart flieger but sold that shit once I realise big watches look dumb on me.

>>14202908
nice kicks

>>14202932
Big watches are always dumb, especially if you have bigchwrists like myself. I picked this watch and I’m glad I did since it would have been impossible to find a Flieger of this characteristics otherwise.
Aristo is an old but not particularly fancy German brand from Pforzhein, like Laco and Stowa. They are known for producing in-house cases and bracelets for other German brands, being titanium their speciality. They also have a ton of Flieger models, all of them using non modified ETA movements. I like how mine resembles the originals A cae design quite well in a small size, even the “onion” crown, which is only few Flieger producers get right.
Pic related is an original WW2 Flieger, 50mm size, IIRC.

>>14202928

There’s a Glashütte Flieger from the 90s which uses the same case, but an in-house Glashütte in-house movement, selling for 2000€ on eBay.

>>14202930
it's all about perception
if they can make people think it's a near premium brand selling watches for non-premium prices people will buy it

What do you guys think about the Timex Weekender?

>>14203008
Forgot the pic, I was thinking about this one

New thread:

>>14203012
>>14203012
>>14203012

Are these good? They have a sweeping second hand similarly to the original accutron.
Why aren’t these more popular??!

>>14203014

they eat batteries like crazy

>>14203014
I love quartz tech, and in many ways I should be very interested in these Bulovas but I'm not for some reason.
I'm guessing it has to do with the uninspiring designs, I dunno.

>>14202914
That's bullshit. There are movements in the watches and they do run. Often the watches at Basel are the prototypes but that's it.

>>14202179
how much do you want for it

>>14202222
I fell for the Alpinist meme. When it showed up I regretted it immediately

>>14202753
>The seiko/GS thing is different in that GS was a jdm-only brand that is now venturing overeas. It's the opposite of lexus in that regard.
In Japan, Grand Seiko was understood as a Seiko product line, not a separate brand, as reflected by the presence of the Seiko logo and then GS logo on most GS models until recently. It's due to foreign markets that they dropped Seiko from the dials and are making GS a separate brand now.

>>14200568
Pretty interesting that the Seiko Epson side of GS is doing throwbacks to the wacky styling of 1970s King Seiko Vanac models. Personally I think it's oversized and hideous, buy I'm curious whether they'll sell.

>>14203034
Pretty sure there are often no movements in them.

>>14203014
They're yuge

>>14200581
they're both swiss so most likely they're equally terrible

>>14202179
It's really scratched up, which is a red flag. However otherwise it seems pretty authentic, meaning A) it's real B) a good quality fake, either way it should be a good enough watch.
Just get a nonbranded bracelet for it off of ebay for $50
https://www.ebay.com/itm/20mm-Oyster-Bracelet-For-Submariner-And-GMT-Master-With-Glide-Lock-Style-Clasp/332649331787?hash=item4d7371fc4b:m:mQvWinObwByy6AVJ5MHpxog&frcectupt=true
You should be able to take off a link from the new bracelet and put it on the old one, the new one also has a nicer clasp which you can put on your watch.