/fa/ - Fashion

Watch if you haven’t:
https://youtu.be/APKCuTB8A4o

>>14131139
Titanium vs. Stainless Steel

Analog vs. Digital

Metal bracelet vs. Nylon vs. Leather

Mechanical vs. Quartz

Previous thread:
>>14120803

because OP is a retarded fucking faggot gorilla nigger and makes threads before they hit bump limits

Introducing.

The Tudor

Heritage

Black Bay

Vostok Komandirskie is so fucking cheap, $35 usd with shipping included. Is it actually a decent watch?

>>14131178
Why do you keep posting that same fake tudor in every thread?

Say what you like about him as a business man but he has a god tier watch collection.

https://youtu.be/XvLhJamAjAs

>>14131110
If it's an ETA 2824 or 2892, handwinding is not recommended. For other movements it is unconfirmed.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/forums.watchuseek.com/f8/damasko-shake-dont-wind-438851.html%3famp=1

.......

...............?????

>>14131221
>>14131225
both are hideous

A brand that copies is a brand that will never be seen as prestigious.

>>14131229
I disagree.

A brand that copies is a brand that will never be seen as prestigious.

>>14131240

>>14131179
It’s okay for that price.

>>14131240
>>14131250
No one gives a fuck.
Stop deleting your previous posts just because you forgot to add a pic, you OCD riddened npc.

>>14131238

I don't dislike the skeleton hands on mine, but the sword hands definitely look better.

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>>14131265
Lol

Is it wrong that I like the "sword" more than the Mercedes circle?

>>14131225
What is the second crown at the 10 o’clock position used for?

>>14131272
It’s like a JLC Reverso, it’s to set the time on the other side of the watch.

>>14131260
Jeez idk if it's just that bad picture, but the maxi case looks absolutely horrible there. Almost looks like it's trying to copy those square bell and Ross shitters

Never seen this type of watch before. I guess the hour hand just goes around once in 24 hours.

>>14131272
Helium escape valve
https://blog.crownandcaliber.com/what-is-the-purpose-of-the-helium-escape-valve/

>>14131279

>>14131288

If you dislike watches with an open heart, why?

Is it just that you don't like the way ot looks, period? I kinda like being able to see into the watch and being reminded of how complex the inner machinery is.

>>14131225
>Ω
>OMEGA
>Seamaster
>PROFESSIONAL
>[ZrO2]
>CO-AXIAL
>MASTER CHRONOMETER
>300m / 1000ft
>SWISS MADE

>>14131303
Do you mean open heart or skeleton? Skeletons can look good but open hearts are just a hole cut in the dial destroying the dial look.

If you want to see the movement then get a watch with an open caseback.

>>14131310
Open heart, not skeleton.
I get what you're saying, completely. But there's something about the juxtaposition that an open heart lends to the watch. There's this simple façade, hour markers, three hands going around and around in such a calm and precise manner...and then you've got this hole where you can look inside and all the parts are spinning and twisting and it looks almost chaotic but you know it's not -- it's the messy part that operates behind the scenes and allows the front-facing dial to maintain its composure.
Plus, if you get a clear caseback, then you're the only one who ever really gets to see the guts -- where's the fun in that?

>>14131154

Underrated post. What a man, an inspiration.

>>14131139
is it ok to store watch for extended periods of time?

Hi /fa/! 1 year ago, you convinced me to buy AP Royal Oak. and now my father gave me an AP royal Oak jumbo slim Edition. it was gifted to him as commendation. he's from navy. but hes a Rolex guy.

I'm thinking of storing it on my jewel safe inside my gun safe or give it to bank on safety deposit box for maybe 5-10 years. as long as my AP royal oak lives.

does the movement gets damaged if it's not working for prolonged time? should I return it to him?

I got this a939 for 30 bucks listed as 'broken'. Opened it up cleaned it out, took out the pushers and cleaned them all too, cleaned bracelet, swapped to a new battery

The one on the right I gave to my sister

https://streamable.com/czawd

>>14131451
First, congrats. Is it the 5402 or the 15202? The Royal Oak is a personal favourite of mine. How did the Navy afford such a gift?

It won’t get damaged per se but as with any oil, the oils inside the movement would dry up eventually. Just make sure you store it in a moisture-free environment, maybe throw in some silica packets. Any watch would need to be serviced after 5-10 years irregardless of use. Just store it properly and have it serviced when you decide to use it five years later.

https://wornandwound.com/guide-storing-watches/

Also, post pics!

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>>14131139
am I the only one that thinks these watches look clownish?

>>14131478
Those are sick

>>14131599
Nice. Brands doing the 70’s integrated lugs trend.
>>14131636
Cool divers.
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You’re seriously delusional if you think that’s the same as Seiko straight up ripping off the DateJust, Explorer, and Submariner designs.

>>14131745
>Nice. Brands doing the 70’s integrated lugs trend.

or they were all designed by the same person, you uneducated muppet

>>14131745

>>14131636
close, but no cigar. this is the very first sub model released, which came out after the BP FF in the early 50s. the one in your pic appears to be a sub model 1680 which came out in the 70s

>>14131771
That Vacheron wasn’t. Pleb.

>>14131776
Seiko rips off Rolex design and that’s a fact. Nice meme though.

>>14131784
>That Vacheron wasn’t. Pleb.

do your research, mongoloid

>>14131784
>waah

>>14131790
He's not wrong. Genta didn't design the vacheron 222, Jorg Hysek did. Maybe you should practice what you preach, dumb nigga.

https://www.dreamchrono.com/2014/04/vacheron-constantin-222/

>>14131795
>he doesn't know the secret history between VC and GG

ok dumb niggas

>>14131797
Cite your source dingus.

>>14131803
>waaah do my homework for me
no i won't you lazy underage fuck

>>14131805
>I have no proof of my claims
It can be rightly ignored until you do then.

>>14131810
>It can be rightly ignored until you do then.
a good day to you too, m'fedora lord

>>14131812
Post your watch collection dingus mCChodenstein.

>>14131139
I've been having trouble finding this exact watch anywhere online. It's a Seiko designated 4R38-00D0 R 2. Any leads?

>>14131816
fuckin LOL, now you want me to post pictures for you? how about this instead: more pieces than you could ever hope to afford

>>14131821
Show and tell nigga.
Don’t sing it.
Bring it.

>>14131823
shut the fuck up faggot

>>14131825
Exactly.
Fuck off outta here pussy.

>>14131823

>>14131833
>mooooooom the stranger on the internet won't do what i'm telling him to!

>>14131812
>get proven wrong
>I'll just call him a name, that'll show I'm right
Absolutely ebin, keep seething, retard.

>Despite its design, the 222 was not actually penned by Gérald Genta, although it was assumed to have been for many years. It was actually developed by Jorg Hysek who crafted the design with a clear nod of appreciation for Génta’s prior works.

Post your inherited pieces.
Pic related is what I inherited from my grandmother, RIP.

>>14131845
seething? you're the retard that's still seething because he didn't get what he wanted. better turn the PC off and get to bed before your parents find out you're still awake and you've got school tomorrow, kiddo.

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>>14131819
I've found some listings that are all stainless, without the rose gold, but not the rose gold version.

>>14131847

>>14131823

>>14131139
I haven't been in the watch thread for a while. How'd it finally get moved from /g/?

>>14131851
You're talking to two different people in case you were too slow to pick up on that. Feel free to produce any proof whatsoever of your claim that's already been debunked here:

https://www.dreamchrono.com/2014/04/vacheron-constantin-222/

Got this for my graduation, thoughts?

Also looking for a new strap/band for it, colour and type recommendations pls

>>14131819
I just noticed the dial says 4R38-00D2 R 2, while the back of the case >>14131857 says 4R38-00D0. The movement itself is marked 4R38A.

>>14131890
It's fairly common for the same case reference to be used for several dial references, so that's not that weird.

>>14131864
Cuck posting overload. Whole /g/ was flooded.

>>14131881
better pic

>>14131258
fking clean af

>>14131636
I agree with the other pics except this one, this one has fewer similarities. I'd compare the Blancpain with a Zodiac Seawolf.

>>14131864
>Some dude had a black bay rep and as we told him to fuck off, he got angry and started spamming porn. /g/ jannies just offloaded the problem to the /fa/ ones. We also made a discord which is fairly successful.

So I ordered a new vostok with a requested different dial, but the origional dial was mailed to me anyway. I kind of want to see if I can stick this dial into a used quartz watch. Does anyone have any experience with this kind of thing?

>>14131668
nope, they all have at least one deal breaker design wise for me.
the bottom one looks ok

ITT boners over Rolex, not for their design or looks but what they represent.

c'mon guys it doesn't have to be expensive to be a nice watch

>>14131955
2 4 8 &10 seem like strange numbers to highlight, very unorthodox.
any particular reason for this?

>>14131988
idk lol, this is just the origional dial for the watch I ordered. I had it swapped out for a nice scuba dude dial.

>>14131139
Post watches fit for honorable men who believe in a worthy cause.

>>14131896
Finally a proper seamaster in this thread.
I found out that a brown real teju lizard strap fits incredibly well my SS dress watches with white-ish dials. This lizard is more brown-grey color in real life which is unique, together with incredible texture and color hues. This is where I got my pic related. It is also the most comfortable straps, relating to feel on your wrist and skin that I own. Top quality indeed.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Tejus-Lizard-Leather-Luxury-Watch-Strap-Band-Black-Brown-18-19-20mm-/223086069220?nav=SEARCH

>>14131995
i like this one better, kinda bothers my OCD that the 3 is missing and replaced with the date

>>14132007
Just always turn the date back to 3 every day

>>14131221
The crown guards are ugly.

>>14132000
based GLA

Seiko fanboys will defend this.

>>14132016
put a little bit of glue in there maybe

>>14131139
>Should I buy this MVMT / DW / *Fashion brand* watch?
>> Scroll throught this album first: https://imgur.com/a/6CNO8
kek, just saw that for the first time. 10/10

>>14132044
defend what?

>>14132044
Checked, based & redpilled.

>>14132000
Hamilton Khaki Field

Which one looks more retro cool?
I’d love one of each but budget won’t reach.

>>14132044
The skx031 is way more sub-like.

>>14132044
were Rolex the first to use red and blue on the bezel?

>>14131847
Fuck off cunt, I hope an edgy teen digs up your whore grandmother and skull fucks her.

>>14132125
Left, gotta love a lumed dial, I used to have a shitty Tag F1 that I only got because of the lumed dial.

Threadly reminder that if you arent a lawyer or doctor you are not allowed to own speedy

arent speedys super cheap

>>14132030
Based Hamas cosplaying as GLA

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>>14132151
What's going on in here?

Isn’t it free to capitalise your words and have proper punctuation?

this poor ass australian bitch has never heard of opportunity cost lmao

>>14131258
this is the best looking seamaster

>>14132165
What are you gonna do? Call the watch police?
>Not getting the superior seiko speedy

>>14132248
Indeed

Can somebody list some cheap/readily available quartz watches with 30mm dials? I need to know for a DIY project.

>>14132261
Tell me about your project first

>>14132265
It's actually just this >>14131955, lol. I just didn't want to look like I was spamming questions.

>>14132164
Two things I can’t stand, lumed dials and integrated bracelets.

What are your opinions on the Seamaster and constellation quartz’s?

>>14132272
This watch has a 30mm dial and it costs around £30.

>>14132290
Damn, that's actually a pretty nice looking watch. I'd feel bad taking it apart.

I'll put that in the maybes though

>>14131745
>ou’re seriously delusional if you think that’s the same as Seiko straight up ripping off the DateJust, Explorer, and Submariner designs.
But that's exactly what happened.

And then they both stole a lot of design cues from the earlier Sea Wolf.

>>14131782
The point is the Sub "stole" its design from the BP.

>>14131896
>I agree with the other pics except this one, this one has fewer similarities.
That's just because you're so used to the "diver" style of watch.
At the time the basic design cues (unidirectional rotating bezel, big round lume indices with triangle at 12 and batons at 3, 6, 9, large lumed hands, ...) were extremely uncommon, and those two watches would have stood out as the same type of watch.


>I'd compare the Blancpain with a Zodiac Seawolf.
The BP took a lot from the Zodiac, and then the Sub took a lot from the BP.

>>14131745
>Nice. Brands doing the 70’s integrated lugs trend.
More like "brands all want a piece of the RO market".
A lot of them even hired the same designer.

>>14132303
The Sub looks nothing like the BP. Nice try troll.

>>14132309
>The Sub looks nothing like the BP
Nice troll.

>>14132309
Still isn’t as bad as every single Seiko being a blatant Rolex knockoff.

>>14132298
Seiko has copied other brands, just like Rolex has. The difference is that Seiko has actually created enormous technical innovation, while Rolex is just pure marketing.

Seiko is the best watchmaker, Rolex is a marketing company.

>>14132319
Agreed.

Though Rolex has done some innovation as well, but they mainly revolved around ruggedization of the case.
Most of what they did was create lines tailored to specific adventurous occupations: subs for divers, GMTs for airline pilots, explorers for cavers/climbers, cosmographs/daytonas for astronauts (whoops), etc.
Like you said, marketing.

>tfw another day gone without dad giving me a patek

>>14132319
What has Rolex copied?

>>14132314
>>14132044
>>14132309
>>14132351

>>14132355
How the fuck can anyone justify buying a Rolex after seeing this?

>>14132360
The Blancpain is valid. Lots of brands copied the Fifty.

The Patek is irrelevant. A gold plain 3 handed dress watch. 80% of gold watches upto the 1960's look like that.

The AP bracelet. A failed experiment.

The VC moonphase. Again lots of brands in the early 1900's made that design. I don't know enough to say who was first.

>>14132368
>I don't know enough to say who was first.
It certainly wasn't fucking Rolex.

>>14132368
>The Blancpain is valid. Lots of brands copied the Fifty.
Including Rolex.
And Blancpain didn't invent that design out of nowhere either.

>The Patek is irrelevant. A gold plain 3 handed dress watch. 80% of gold watches upto the 1960's look like that.
And they all took their cues from the Calatrava.

>The AP bracelet. A failed experiment.
But nonetheless an obvious RO copy by Rolex.

>The VC moonphase. Again lots of brands in the early 1900's made that design.
Bruh, Rolex copied that VC design down to the fucking numerical font for the dates.

>>14132360
If there was one watch brand that will get you laid, it’s Rolex.
That’s why.

>>14132368
>The Blancpain is valid. Lots of brands copied the Fifty.
>he Patek is irrelevant. A gold plain 3 handed dress watch. 80% of gold watches upto the 1960's look like that.

In other words "but everyone is doing it!!"
So then why shit on Seiko?

>>14132286
It's not an integrated bracelet on the F1, it just has hooded lugs. You can put any 18mm strap or straight end link bracelet on it.

>>14132379
Wrong

Can someone please find a flaw?

>>14131155
I only have one titanium watch, it's a Tissot Powermatic 80 and while the titanium is noticeably lighter than steel, it also scratches much easier. That being said, I like the titanium because it's darker gray compared to stee, also I seem to notice it less when I'm wearing it (it just disappears after a while, while sometimes with my steel watches I have some itching, and yes I do wash my watches and wrists). I should buy a watch in some titanium alloy with higher resistance to scratches.

>>14132398
It's shit. There's your flaw.

>>14132398
Boring as fuck.

Who /vintagemalldadcore/ here?

>>14132410
What's shit about it? The design is surely better than any mountain jew, old man timepiece.

>>14132398

>>14132453
This guy gets it.

>>14131250
hhahahahahah came here to post my new watch. Legitamtly saved up to buy a MOTM and realised how wasteful that purcahse is at 22. Taking a trip to Japan instead but you enjoy that datejust you don't own.

>>14132475
Wtf is that day display? Did you mod this?
Have a nice time in Japan. You single?

£7000 of watches
£3 cap

>>14132483
no it uses a roman calander for the half days instead of, i think french is the more common one. Red block for sunday because they noted holy days as red on the roman calander. idk much more. not single, and thank you i am looking forward to seeing things.

>>14132436
>automatic watch
>mechanical keyboard

peak reddit

>>14132532
> mechanical
its a shitty rubberdome that they sell für 100+ bucks because it has keycaps for some obscure editing software.

>get a notification that my Aqua Terra is ready to pick up from the post office
>post office opening ours are 9-5
>I work 8:30 to 5:30 minimum

>>14132564
can't you just come in late a bit? any half decent employer/superior would allow that, or take a leave if they are ass about it.

>>14132475
You made the correct decision here. At 22 you have no business owning a watch like that. If you have to save up for a particular watch, then that watch is not for you. Watches should be purchased comfortably outright in a single paycheck /dividend.

Enjoy Japan

>>14132475
Seiko period reminder watch

>>14132612
What happens if the watch is a little over one paycheck but you still have the money put aside to afford it without worrying about paying the bills?

>>14132626
Then you should invest it/put in high interest savings instead until dividend + paycheck > watch

Unless you're old. But really, if you have a lot of disposable income it's alright as long as it doesn't become a habit.

>>14132629
Just wondered. I'm in my late 20s, earn about 3k a month after taxes and have about 30k in the bank. I bought a 5k watch. I don't think it was that irresponsible.

>>14132639
Imagine spending 1/6th of your net worth on a watch, and saying you don't think that's irresponsible. This general is so delusional and moronic.

>>14132639
Do you own a house?
I find the great thing about good watches is that they retain their value when second hand. I’ve owned three luxury watches and then later sold them for a small profit. They’re fairly liquid really so if shit hit the fan I could always flip.

>>14132584
normally, but we have a fuckload of work to do this week
I'll just pick it up on saturday

>>14132653
What does a 24 hour subdial actually do? I notice a lot of seiko chronos have it

>>14132650
I'm barely close to middle aged, have a stable income and enough money to last if shit ever did hit the fan and I'd need to look for another job. My monthly salary is more than enough to pay for all outgoings and still have enough to save, hence why I have the 30k to begin with. What's the point in earning money if it just sits in a bank and you never spend it? You die with a whole bunch of unspent money. Might as well enjoy it.

>>14132672
It’s pointless. Basically an AM/PM indicator.

>>14132684
it's puzzling why most seiko quartz chronos have that feature then. It looks like the flightmaster manages to turn that dial into an alarm

>>14132696
Simply because triple-subdial chronos look fancier, therefore sell better, and this is a ridiculously simple complication, like two or three extra wheels.

It's simply a movement designed for mall shitters.

>>14132716
A real crime considering the original Ripley and Bishop has 1/10th second sub dials.

>>14132721
Does this have the same movement as the quartz chronos in presage guys collection

>>14132727
I don’t fucking know. Presage Seikos look awful.

>>14132732
indeed. he has 2 or 3 seiko chronos with that 24 hour dial tho

Glycine combat sub it's a nice low range swiss diver

>>14132639
It is a little irresponsible, but more on the level of getting two vacations in a year instead of one rather than "I spent my net worth to impress people who fell for marketing tactics".
Also,
>not investing any of it

>>14132355
>>14132360
Same fag. That pic doesn’t show anything remotely close to the level of Seiko’s blatant and outright copying of Rolex’s design. Seiko’s Rolex copies are Invicta tier. Just look at >>14132044. You are either blind, delusional, or just plain in-denial about Seiko copying Rolex’s iconic designs.

>>14132767
>That pic doesn’t show anything remotely close to the level of Seiko’s blatant and outright copying of Rolex’s design
Of course it does.

Are there any reasonably priced, oil filled watches on the market?

>>14132778
Fill a f91w yourself.

>>14132781
I don’t want to look like a prick though.
Can you fill any analogue watch?

>>14132767
If anything you're just digging a bigger hole for your grave

>>14132355
Both Divers released in 1953, within a few months of each other.

Basic three-hand watch, irrelevant.

1970s integrated trend.

Standard calendar moonphase layout.

If you think all of that is the same as Seiko copying the Explorer, the DateJust, the Submariner, and the GMT-Master outright and blatantly then your are truly delusional.

>>14132382
Oh that wasn’t directed at your watch, I just was speaking generally.
Aside from distaste for lumed dials your watch is nice.

>>14132804
>Both Divers released in 1953, within a few months of each other.
Blancpain first.

>Basic three-hand watch, irrelevant.
They're virtually identical, and the Calatrava pretty much invented the minimalist Bauhaus three-hand dress watch.

>1970s integrated trend.
Started by the Royal Oak, which almost everyone copied, including Rolex.

>Standard calendar moonphase layout.
The design is a beat-for-beat reproduction, right down to the date numerical font.

Try to cope less, I dare you.

>>14132398
I may be mistaken, but is this the watch that has the “Wear the watch gently for 5 minutes and it will get scratched to shit” caseback?

>>14132812
Do a breakdown of this.

>>14132819
They're design copies/"homages".

Much like those Rolexes: >>14132355

>>14132819
Four out of five of those Rolexes have the same basic layout which was stolen from Blancpain.

>>14132819
How can a watch company ever be as based as based Seiko

>>14132836
You ever wonder if pieces like that are all some sort of inside joke to see what they can make people buy?

>>14132819
Seiko is like Parnis but with “in-house” movements.

>>14131240
wtf they really went and did that

>>14132786
I suppose that by analogue you mean a classical all mechanical movement inside as oposed to quartz watch, then no as viscosity of oil or any liquid would hinder the free oscillation of balance which would mean any attempts at accuracy are out of the window.
It can be resolved by special construction - having the movement part and display part of watch hermetically separated in a watch case, thus have the oil only in the dial part. Ressence Type 3 and Type 5 are two of such (half)oil watches.

>>14131310
while it does inspire awe, it takes away too much from the elegance of a watch

>>14132811
>Aside from distaste for lumed dials your watch is nice.
Nah, it's a shitter. I sold it for slightly more than I paid for it though so all is good.

>>14132176
>Seiko 4R38-00D0 R

>>14132044
>>14132355
It's only ok when the Swiss make homages? What hypocracy.

>>14131240
The Seiko looks way better.

>>14131240
>>14131250
>>14131260

>seeething

>>14131253
That looks like a watch for limp wristed faggots

>>14132993
Seiko cope

>>14132380
> So then why shit on Seiko?
Because while Rolex has copied other designs like every watch brand they have also created unique ones all of their own.

Seiko never have.

What is the best movement currently produced, and why is it the ETA 2892?

>Easy 1spd accuracy laughs at cosc standards
>No premature rotor wear like rolex
>Easy servicing
>More durable than the HH shite of Patek/VC/Lange
>Available in a wide range of 1.5>2k affordable watches

>>14133001
Seiko weebs are obsessed with saying Seiko is better than Rolex. Funny when Seiko is literally ripping off multiple designs from the “lesser” brand.

>>14132483

>Wtf is that day display? Did you mod this?

It's pic related, or something very similar. (but in white, obviously)

>>14132500

That. I have an English/Spanish one, and 'SUN/DOM' show up in red font. I thought about buying pic related, but it's almost half the cost of the watch itself..

>>14133010
$1,500-$2,000 for a piece of jewelry isn't affordable.

>>14133018
For you.

>>14133001
>Because while Rolex has copied other designs like every watch brand they have also created unique ones all of their own.
>Seiko never have.
Didn't even laugh.
Troll more creatively.

>>14133010
> Easy 1spd accuracy laughs at cosc standards
What are you smoking? I'll take some.

>>14132716
>Simply because triple-subdial chronos look fancier

I agree, but making one a 24h time indicator is retarded. My citizen chrono has 3 dials, but 2 count the hours and minutes when the chrono runs, and 1 is a small seconds that runs continuously.

>>14133024
He's not wrong. Name one iconic Seiko design.

>>14133001
>moving the goalposts
I'll take your concession, both Japanese and Swiss are absolute trash.

>>14133018
I'm saying anything above that and you will not be buying a more functional automatic watch. It's performance to cost is at the peak before you are just paying for a brand.

>>14132819

Right side better value every time.


Bonus points for making that one autist ITT seethe.

>>14132999

Prefer citizen to be honest.

>>14133041
Better value, why not buy a fake instead. Seiko copies are literally 90% there. Parnis-tier brand.

>>14133031
The tuna.

>>14131283
I find once you see the big square shape of the lugs and case, you can’t unsee it.

>>14133010

>not quartz

You mean best obsolete movement?

>>14133025
>But muh super laxative cockometer rating.
Forums full of Rolexes doing 10spd even before the rotors start grinding.

>>14133001
SKX
Seiko Tuna
A bunch of Seiko Credors

>>14133058
>Credor

>>14133031

>>14133048
>Better value,
Yes. Far better.
>why not buy a fake instead.
Because fakes are for trashy people that just care for brands, memes and 'prestige'.. Buy a fucking Tiffany's bracelet if you swing that way.
>Seiko copies are literally 90% there.
90% where?
>Parnis-tier brand.
In house movements that put the Swiss to shame since 1920-something though, if you care about that sort of thing.

>>14133049
>>14133058
I don't think you know the meaning of iconic. Tuna is just a Fifty Fathoms copy, SKX is general Rolex clones as shown by >>14132819

>>14133023
t. Snobby MacSnobbstein

>>14133051

>once you see

There are ways of not seeing it?

>>14133065
> iconic: very famous or popular
thanks for posting but no.

>>14133067
Muh in-house movements, doesn’t matter when the designs are copies. Seiko’s copies are trashy too.

>>14133079
>Muh in-house movements, doesn’t matter

Enough to change the watch industry forever tbqh..

>the designs are copies.
Great value though

>Seiko’s copies are trashy too

4u

>>14133075
Is that steel?

>>14133067
The only thing he cares about is "Swiss Made", even though that standard is extremely lax.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1E01YT

>>14133068
You retarded? Have you ever seen a tuna?

>>14133079
Why does it matter when you have a fake Tudor?

The Land Wind has an in-house engine!!! Fucking Asians only know how to copy.

>>14133086

Why, yes. Yes it is.

>>14133090

>The only thing he cares about is "Swiss Made", even though that standard is extremely lax.

The Toblerone bar I just ate had some decent fucking standards to be honest.. Note sure if the nougat was in house though.

>>14133097
The Land Wind is great value!!!
>>14133095
What?

>>14133097
>The Land Wind has an in-house engine!!!

Un-fucking likely. They tend to take the engines for those Chinese Copy-Cars straight from the moped-production line.

>>14133102
>great value!!!

Gib specs.

>>14133103
Still, Chinese made engines. Now you see why Seiko’s in house movements doesn’t matter when it powers copied designs.

>>14133107
>Still, Chinese made engines.
Not inhouse, not decent quality and not great value though.
>Now you see why Seiko’s in house movements doesn’t matter when it powers copied designs

All I see is that you suck at analogies, and that you seem to have very little concept of what 'value' means.

>>14133107
But the ETA 2824 is made in Chinese factories. If anything that's a mark against the Swiss

>>14133097
>>14133100
>>14133102
Why hold the Swiss to a lower standard to the japanese?

>>14133068

Where is the SKX in that post?

>>14133117
>Why hold the Swiss to a lower standard to the japanese?

Who are you quoting?

In house doesn’t automatically make it great. A Seiko 5, a 50$ watch has an in house movement.

>>14133124

In what universe is being about to buy a quality automatic for $50,- not great though?

Peak fucking value, and they make one in just about every size, color, flavor or style there is.

>>14133124
This. A lot of the recent in-house marketing has been forced on brands due to the Swiss government placing restrictions on ETA meaning brands can't use them anymore. It's nothing to do with the new movements being any better or not

>>14133131
These are made in third world countries and probably use very contaminated materials because those countries will do anything for money and have no regulations. A watch made in a firsr world country is expensive because its all regulated.

>>14133078
That's not the definition of icon you mouth-breathing retard.

>>14133120
You, retard. If Swiss aren't in house, make shit in China, and copy the designs of others, why would they be any better?
You've given them a pass for many of the traditional hallmarks of what makes a good watch while complaining that Seiko doesn't meet them all.

At least if I buy a Japanese or German watch for $5k, it's almost guaranteed that the parts were made, assembled, and regulated in the country of origin. And it will have better finishing.

>>14133135

Is this bait?

I'm really not sure anymore with the level of posting going on here..
>contaminated
Is this a poo-in-loo joke?

>>14133131
For some reason I hate that big fucking '5' on the dial.

>>14133142
>You, retard. If Swiss aren't in house, make shit in China, and copy the designs of others, why would they be any better?

They're not, at least I don't think so. I think you've got me confused with another autist.
>You've given them a pass for many of the traditional hallmarks of what makes a good watch while complaining that Seiko doesn't meet them all.

Quite sure you're talking to the wrong autist now.

>At least if I buy a Japanese or German watch for $5k, it's almost guaranteed that the parts were made, assembled, and regulated in the country of origin. And it will have better finishing.

I advocate buying $50,- Seiko's and $100,- Citizens, so I really am not your target audience, anon.

>>14133147

I don't mind it that much. IRL it's not so prominent, and the polished 5 matches nicely with the applied Seiko logo if light hits it.

That said, I wouldn't mind if they didn't put them on.

>>14133142
These>>14133102 >>14133097 is this point >>14133124. Go read above what Seiko defenders are saying about Seiko copies being great because they have in-house movements when they’re no different to Chinese replicas with ETA-clones.

>>14133138
Is English not your first language? That's literally the definition in the dictionary.

>>14133147
The Japanese have no taste, that’s why they copy. >>14132044

It’s like they think the watch is a car and put a badge on it or something.

>>14133148

Oh, btw I posted: >>14133100

But not the 2 Chink Rovers.

>>14133151

Seikos are great value.

That chink rover more than likely is not... You still haven't posted the specs, anon.

>>14133143
They can say something is stainless steel, when in reality it isn't and could even be composed of cheap, toxic materials that first world regulations would never allow, and use cheap inferior manufacturing processes.- things like that.

>>14133155
Is that an Amerimutt dictionary?
A nation of dumbed-down morons.

>>14133168

If you're serious about this, that is hilarious.

>>14133031
There are tons of iconic Seiko designs readily known by anyone who isn't a complete watch noob; Pogue, Arnie, Giugiaros, 44GS, 62MAS, Snowflake, SKX, ...
And iconic tech; spring drive, quartz, first non-modular automatic chrono, ...

>>14133068
>Tuna is just a Fifty Fathoms copy
You mean like the Submariner, Deep Sea, Sea Dweller, Explorer, GMT Master II, Yacht Master?

>>14133159
Rolex has no taste. Which is why they copy.
And it’s definitely why they don’t innovate.
They do have the best marketing though.
Can’t argue that.

>>14133064
You keep posting that like it means anything.

>>14133155

6 definitions on dictionairy.com, none of them that.

3 in my native language's main dictionairy (for the translation, anyway), also none are what you said.

Are you sure you're not looking at some simplified Eastern-Pakistani dictionairy for elementary schoolchildren?

>>14133078
Hardly any normies know what a Calatrava is, but it's one of the greatest icons in watchmaking.

>>14133133
>It's nothing to do with the new movements being any better or not
It has everything to do with the brand being a jewellery brand or a watch brand.

>>14133177
Truth.

>>14133177
>they don’t innovate.

They came up with that cool month indicator on the SkyDweller.

Shame about the rest of that watch though.

>>14133148
Then why bitch about the Japanese while asking people to buy $200 citizens?
>>14133151
I already know about the Malaysian made 7s26. I'm telling you that having ETA is on the same level because ETA movements are made in China.

Internal design isn't an excuse for homages, and neither does having "Swiss Made" on the dial.

>>14133185
Cool DW bro.
Shame it's a fake.

>>14133214
When I buy pre-cut steel from China and assemble and apply finishing to it in my country, is that Chinese made?

>>14133214
>Then why bitch about the Japanese while asking people to buy $200 citizens?

I don't. That's why I asked who you were quoting.. I made a joke about my Swiss candy bar being made to supreme Swiss standards.

I'm not the guy that's still mad about pic related existing.

>>14133214
At least ETAs are mostly Swiss components and all assembly, finishing and regulating happen in Switzerland.

>>14133232
I thought in house didn't matter to you? Why go back to that point?

And it isn't even just buying Chinese steel, the factories for the movement are in China. How do you think seagull "figured out" the machinery to the chink ETA clone?

While it is true that in house doesn't mean better, you shouldn't throw stones in glass houses.

>>14133242
That's a weird place to interject.

>>14133253
>That's a weird place to interject.

I replied to this post: >>14133090

I thought it was a decent opportunity for a 'Swiss made' joke. Sorry about the confusion, anon.

>>14133242
The Swiss are the fucking worst.
-Take the watchmaking mantle from English
-Make lots of developments and become number one
-Japs come out of nowhere with their accurate mechanicals, no worries just raise the bar
-Quartz
-The Swiss industry largely resting on it's laurels nearly gets wiped out
-Survive by Swiss quality memes, making huge conglomerates and focusing on luxury watches
-Normie shits still buy them simply because of brand perception, ""quality"" and luxury
-Get beaten in lower price ranges by all other watch companies, beaten in mid range by Seiko and various German companies, beaten in the high end by ALS.

>>14133253
chinese government bought all the machinery for seagull (venus) directly from switzerland together with the blueprints of venus caliber. Seagull project was originally founded and funded for the needs of chinese military air force, not for selling on domestic market to chinese civillians and absolutely not for western gveilos as the endgame.

>>14133278
Swiss are the fucking worst, so much that the Japs copy them. >>14132044

Thoughts on the SARY055?
How does it compare to the SARB035 in the fit and finish department?

>>14133292
Shitter. Look at that dial and the chapter ring and look at how far from the edge of the case the day & date indications are. Small movement fitted into a large case. Typical of Seiko.

>>14133302
>Small movement fitted into a large case. Typical of Seiko.
You don't say.

>>14133292
>Thoughts on the SARY055?

Classic design, pretty nice. Not my tastes.

>SARB035
No experience with them, but isn't the SARB-line the one they gutted in the last few years?

>>14133302
Are chapter rings a shortcut to save on defective dials?

My Swiss watch has the minute markers printed on the dial.

The diameter of the movement doesnt matter.

>>14133292
Here it is without the chapter ring.
>>14133305
Triggered, nice whataboutism.

>>14133314
Correct.

>>14133313
Nice watch. Just look at this: >>14133315
It’s a cheap move desu.

>>14133314
It does when you have day/date complications otherwise they would be too far near the center when placed in a larger case like what Seiko did.

>>14133321
I said it because it is correct and i dont need your *Correct.*
>>14133330
that doesn't matter, be quiet weenie

>>14133279
I'm not even talking about the ST19, I'm talking about the ST21 and all the other Chinese clones of the ETA 2824.
http://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t=tree&goto=1701&rid=2

>>14133292
Similar finish, but there are way better looking presages

>>14133330
They could’ve just made a larder day and date wheel... just a bit of a shortcut I guess.

>>14133371
Doesn’t work that way.

>>14133292
I currently have one, it's pretty good for the price but I think it's too big, that's the only thing I don't like about it. I'm trying to sell it and think I'll get a sarb033 instead.

>>14131139
can someone help me ID this piece?
bought it at a garage sale
Dated to 1932

>>14133388
2/2
backside

>>14133292
>>14133379
I think my wrist are big enough for this watch, but I prefer smaller watches.

>>14133388
Vintage jump-hour watch. Does it work?

>>14133388

No branding or anything?

Google comes up with this auction lot featuring an "Arcadia 9ct digital gentleman’s wristwatch, import hallmarks for Glasgow 1932, 15 jewels, 32mm x 25mm "

Does this look like it could be it?

>>14133388
That one faggot from Theo and Harris got the exact same watch

>>14133388
“Art Deco Swiss Digital” plenty of results.

>>14133406
yes

>>14133409
nope just what I posted with the images.
Seems like it could be a Cortébert Jump-Hour but I'm not sure.

>>14133315
>nice whataboutism.
Haha what?

>>14133315
>Triggered, nice whataboutism.
Honestly, why are you so angry?
Do you really hate watches that much that you keep trolling and trolling and trolling the same old shit thread after thread?

eta is still the standard to beat even if made in china, country of origin doesn't matter only qc at the country so why can't we be friends?

>>14133457
How is it trolling when it’s just pointing out the cheapness of Seiko with adding a huge chapter ring to hide it being actually small?

>>14133302
>>14133305
R E K T
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New thread:

>>14133504
>>14133504
>>14133504

>>14133470
I guess patek is just cheap too, hiding small movements behind solid casebacks.

>>14133278
Wait, is Breguet considered french or swiss?

What do you think about bulova watches?

1. Go to eBay and search "mechanical watch"
2. Set slider to "sold items"