/fa/ - Fashion

Hey guyse, should I get black ...

>>13864689
... or white?

>>13864689
>>13864690
white

>>13864684
Thanks Kol

Keep up the good work Kol! Proud of you!

>>13864690
>>13864689
I already told you white, faggot

Can we get an infograph (>inb4 Reddit) of ArchieLuxury-approved watches?

>>13864703
okay, dad

Can you wear a speedy in the rain?

>>13858991
whats the purpose of calling your watch "beater"?

its not like it gets consumed by wear

>>13864734
they kinda do unless you lead a sheltered life

Post sum loom

>>13864743

>>13864743

Thoughts on this piece, Im looking at cosc watches and found this at a decent price point. C/N?

Any experiences with Laco watches? The Laco Jena really interests me, but it's nearly impossible to find reviews on it.

>>13864773
let me guess >muh germany >muh history >muh nazis
Can't think of any decent reason why anyone unironically buys laco

>>13864801
Probably because one likes the design of a certain Laco watch

New watch day boys.
Needs a waffle strap but so far I love this thing.

>>13864801
I like watches.

>>13864689
>>13864690
White and it’s not even close. Black looks like shit.
>>13864723
It would probably be fine but I wouldn’t.
>>13864770
Not bad but I hate cyclops windows on anything other than a Rolex. I can guarantee you it looks terrible in person. For whatever reason most watch brands can’t figure out how to make one that is centered and useful.

>>13864743

>>13864843
Magnifying windows are for old people anyway.
My eyes are fine thank you Rolex.

Why are there always several watch threads

Which is the legitimate one

Hello wt

>>13865027
This is. Its discord cancer vs tudor fag, this is the least bad.

>>13865027

>>13857747
>>13857747

This one is the legitimate one, still not reached 310 posts.
Next thread after that without discord or tudor faggotry will be the correct one.

>>13864705
Archie bought like 3 Rolexes in the last week, among them the ugliest Daytona I've ever seen, a fucking two-tone with arabic numerals.

Anyway, Archie taste is heavily skewed towards Rolex cause he's an old fatman.

I'll give you my list instead
>Seamaster, Speedmaster
>IWC Marks
>Vacheron Overseas
>Submariner no-date

Other watches are unnecessary. Especially Patek. Who gives a fuck about muh complications. Swiss watches should be finely engineered tools that look good and expensive, not under-the-radar gold pieces with moonphases.

JLC Master Controls are fucking nice, but dress watches are dead, so don't even bother.

>>13864743

>>13865044
>Submariner no-date
confirmed for actual pleb. There's the Sub and the Sub date. When you say you have a Sub you're automatically referring to the no date you scum.

>>13865051
>confirmed for actual pleb. There's the Sub and the Sub date. When you say you have a Sub you're automatically referring to the no date you scum.

https://www.chrono24.com/rolex/submariner-no-date--mod2460.htm

It's literally known as the no-date sub.

>>13865044
never seen one post with so many dumb opinions
PHUCKER PHAGGOT

>>13865063
wow, you're even dumber than i thought. Do some actual research instead of posting a website search algorithm. The submariner only started having a date function in the late 60's/early 70's. That watch is now known as the Sub date. All subs before that did not have a date, that's the STANDARD Submariner.

>>13865036
Soviet brass watches really fit skinny wrists.

Let's not be fags

Post grails instead!

>>13865082
makes sense lol

If you're not supposed to go counter-clockwise while setting the time, how come there's no movement that only allows adjustment in one direction?

>>13864743

Is there really no way to polish mineral glass? Even with tools and polishing compound?


>>13865200
I go clockwise all the time with my many watches and never had an issue.

Posted last thread but I swapped the band over yesterday

Thoughts on Vincero watches?

Cop or not?

>>13865420
immaculately crafted, and with a high degree of horological history behind them
i wouldn't be surprised to see older models triple in price over the next year, buy as many as you can

>>13865269
Why did you buy the rectangle Casio on the bottom right?
It doesn't fit with the rest.

>>13865517
he's a madman what do you expect

What do you think?

>>13865525
Didnt ask you, cunt

>>13865540
What the fuck is the casio designer team doing

>>13865550
tough shit fuck face

>>13865558
What are you on? That design is beautiful.

>>13864684
post your favorite archie video phuckers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaeRD5GyKHM

>>13865084

>>13865705
Good taste. Saw one of these in person and pics really don't do that movement justice.

Okay which one of you FUCKERS was it??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehlEyIWgxIQ

>>13865084

>>13865517
I liked the silver dial with gold on it, and the general slimyness from it being this weird dress shitter that's all resin. I don't think I really have a theme other than liking casio and having them all be relatively cheap

What about this one? Is Edifice ok you your book?

Anyone here have experience with Cape Cod cloth and Polywatch?

Do these do at home stuff really work?

>>13865084

>>13866224
Cape cod cloths are much more coarse than you would assume. I would avoid using them. You are much better off using finely and consistently graded diamond particulate abrasives on a microfiber cloth than using a Cape Cod.

Polywatch works great on acrylic crystals

>>13866059
Mall tier

>>13866289
I like submariner homages, most people do, but are day date/ datejust homages frowned upon?

>>13865041
shut up

>>13866289
Gabagool?

>>13866287
What does that mean?

>>13864743
>>13864747
>I promise I won't go off the deep end tonight...though I am drunk...

>>13865084
I tried one on a few days ago...I was underwhelmed, to say the least. But the small version really looked fucking good on my wrist. If only the finishing were better. I want to try a gold one on, because I really want a square/rectangular dress watch, and the reverso is the only one that really gets the art-deco thing in a modern engineered case. Plus JLC movements, which have good reputations.....

picked this up the other day bros

want to start saving up for a nice quality watch but dont know where to start, is 300 too little? How do i figure out if what i think looks nice is actually good and will last? Is there a site or guide i can check out?

>>13866666
Digits

Guess the watch /wt/

>>13866695
How do you like it? It used to be on my list, but I tried a modern one on the same day as the JLC and it felt all wrong to me. The size was right...but the feeling was wrong somehow. But I'm all wrong emotionally anyway right now, so nuff of that.

Do you like it? Is it keeping time well? What made you decide to wear it on the right wrist?

>>13866710
Yeah...a broken clock is right twice a day, right? lol

>>13866584
It looks like a normie watch you get at the mall.
The fuck don’t you understand?

>>13866711
Probably something /g/ tier retarded.

>>13866695
Congratulations, NPC speedmaster drone.
Do you like it?

>>13866717
yeah i like it a lot. it was always the speedy for me since i got into watches, didn't really have my eyes on anything else. only thing that came close was a IWC mk XVIII or something. I planned to put it on a strap straight away as i'm not normally a bracelet fan but this one feels pretty comfy.

also it's on my left hand actually that pic is just kind of confusing


>>13866742
yeah i love it. and yeah speedys definately are super popular never going to deny that.
hope you get what you're after soon bro

>>13866735
Depends on your definition of /g/ tier.

>>13866302
Who cares, Orient is a good brand. Just buy it if you like the look.

>>13866772
show it

>>13866793
Fine

>>13866763
Sorry, it looked like the LH. The bracelet is definitely one of the good ones, though the Seamaster bracelet is still superior. The speedy though looks fucking awesome on leather straps....there's no end to what is possible in terms of combos.

>>13866803
Sorry, meant. RH. Durnk as a lemur.

Which one would be a better choice to buy? This is a SGGA62P and costs $340.

And this one is a SNK366k and costs $250.

>>13866811
Or?

>>13866811
>>13866812
Ah. What do you need it for? They're both supremely ugly...so it's just a matter of which bracelet is more comfortable and how much pillow you wish to bite.

>>13866817
Just a gold watch to wear daily. Do you have any other recommendations for a reasonable price? Those prices are in AUD btw.

>>13866821
It's a tough one Anon. To be serious, the question then becomes 'why do you need a gold watch specifically"?

Is it for formal occasions? To compete in the office clandestinely?

Gold watches signify old-school wealth, so getting a gold watch today that isn't really fully gold nor is interesting and respectable as a movement is something of an unfortunate or ironic comment on consumerism and traditionalism.

If I were to get a gold watch, I'd save up and wait until I got something that has more value and aesthetic appeal.

That being said, why not try for something simpler but more beautiful. Hold on.

>>13866830
I had to get a new pic of this, though I think someone owns this. Just an example, but it's what I'm talking about.

>>13866830
Well it's mainly to match an outfit/aesthetic that I'm going for (like a mix between typical male art hoe/sleazecore). I have this Seiko watch that I love and have been wearing for about 2 years now but it doesn't really match the rest of the fit cause I'm wearing a bunch of gold and want the watch to match.

>>13866821
Hell, even something like this.

>>13866836
Well, if it's just for a fashion issue, then definitely don't spend much money on it, as your style could change. But stick with Seiko or Citizen; in my view, Citizen is a better bet because it's cheaper and excellent in terms of their solar power engineering. Some of their designs are really beautiful in my eyes. But to be fair, I only find them beautiful because they're conservative and 'classic'....that might not be in your wheelhouse.

>>13866843
Thanks anon. I really like the look of that Citizen and apparently it costs $250 here. I've been wearing this one the past couple months but I wanted something with a gold face.

>>13866853
Okay, here's the deal. There's nothing wrong with getting a Citizen, so you're not going to find anyone who will say, 'Don't get it because of x'. If it's purely for fashion, then it fulfills the criteria of being a watch that might end up in a drawer a few years from now, never to see the light of day again.

There are lots of Anons here who might wish to take the discussion to another level though...where we think of pieces that we would want to not only buy but hand down to the next generation. pic related.

I'm not saying that you need to consider it...I'm just saying that you might not get responses from anyone else on this board at this time because the quality of watch you're looking at is not at the same manufacture point as what is commonly discussed in /wt/ when it comes to gold watches.

Good luck with your purchase though. I've been thinking seriously about something gold myself....but that's another discussion for another day.

>>13864743

>>13866812

>SNK-ANYTHING
>$250,-

Eh? That seems about $100,- too much in a premium retail situation, and almost $200,- too much in an international-online shopping scenario... Or am I missing something?

>>13865036

Love the number font on the dial. What's the ref/type?

Anyone know if that style of numbering has a name, and if it's on more watches?

My new citizen has a whopping 10 hour power reserve. Time for a refund but I’ve already binned the gross rubber strap it came with. Wonder what the eBay seller will suggest...

>>13867099
How might be an easy fix with a loose rotor. How does it sound?

>>13866794
Nice!
Take a quick wrist shot for the thread.

>>13867129
I can't even hear the rotor. To be honest, after wearing this for a day I really like it and I think I'd even be tempted to spend a bit more for one without any scratches on the lens.

>>13864684
NEW
>>13867174
>>13867174
>>13867174

>>13867178
What?! Why?

>>13867179
Because he’s a fucking no life idiot.

>>13867252
kys

>>13865798
Not exaggerating when I say I was laughing very loudly for a good five minutes while my chick kept wondering wtf was so funny

Is there a way to quickly deplete power reserve? I'm guessing winding the watch forward a few days won't help?

>>13865798
Wish he could do mine

>>13867353
Hey Hammybro
How do I take pics like you?

>>13867351
yeah seiko 5's don't manipulate time sadly

>>13867355
It's not a Seiko 5... It's a Miyota 8200.

>>13867354
You aim and click. Don’t use flash.
And maybe have a pint or two.

>>13867385
Nice new picture!
What phone / camera you use?

>>13867494
I use an old canon 7D first model. Sometimes an iphone6 but I prefer my camera.
I used to take more pictures years ago but now I have no more the time.

>>13867037
Australian prices are pretty high.

>>13867385
>Don't use flash
Amateurs

>>13867646
Exceptional

>>13867646
I love the explorer but I’m a bit wary of its lack of presence.
Does anyone else think it kinda looks like something you’d wear when you were a teenager?

>>13867646
I need a camera to take photos like this, right? There's no way I can manage to take a photo like this on a phone.

Hello wt

>>13867045
No idea. It's a pobeda I got as a gift/souvenir from a street vendor in Hungary.

>>13867369
You need to open the watch back and hold the click spring open so the mainspring can unwind.

>>13867728
Phones can't focus close enough or synch with a flash, so not really. I used to use a Nikon D700 and a cheap old manual focus macro lens. I have a D810 now but I haven't taken new watch photos in a while.

>>13867723
I don't see anything teenager about it? It definitely doesn't stand out and it's a small watch and very few people have ever commented on it, but I love it. It has everything you need and nothing you don't need.

Can't decide what my next watch will be, price range is 4500-6500
Don't care if new or used

can you guys help me out?

>>13867904
ROLECKS FUCKER

>>13867904
114270.

>>13867904
1000 F-91Ws

>>13867904
g shock square and $6,400 on hash oil

I can't believe weekend is almost over.

>>13867923
This

>>13868008
Are you going to take her to bed?

>>13868059
Did that a bit earlier.

>>13865084

>>13868065
uwu

>>13868090
I was wish it had roman numerals instead, also a fan of this

>>13867723
There's nothing teenager about it. All these russian shitters and casio, they scream teen

>>13868008
I know that feel, guy.
Cheers

>>13868090
>>13868094
?

>>13868094
>>13868191
Nice taste with that GO by the way, I consistently find myself drawn much more towards German watch aesthetics compared to Swiss.

>>13867843
I guess i mean it just looks a bit generic.

>>13867646
Looks like a SARB.
Nice flash technique.

>>13868258
I had a SARB and sold it a while ago. It's a nice watch but it's no Explorer.

Is IWC the king of shitters?

>Rolex-priced ETA/Sellita watches

>>13868437
IWC atleast got some in house movements and are actively moving towards going completely in house. Cartier is the true king of shitters

>>13868448
Cartier isn't a watchmaker it's jewelry. Great for ladies pieces.

>>13868318
heh.. fucking interesting

>>13865420
Dirt cheap at Costco.

I’m in the market for a nice metal watch below $300. I had a Citizen eco drive but the solar cell died after 12 years and it may cost more to repair than to buy a new one.

Any cool sites?

>>13868623
You are probably a huge fag, so buy a replica speedy from dhgate

How are we doing today /wt/?

opinions on this watch?

>>13868635
is that your dad's ass?

>>13868448
Cartier used to be, but not anymore. I'd say IWC is worse

how many watches in your collection?

how do you deal with your rotation?

I'm up to 4 and I struggle

>>13868640

>>13868660
Why all black dials? If I were you I'd ditch either the citizen or the (Tissel?) flieger since they're both similar and get a light face dress watch to round out your rotation.

>>13868635
you can edit that photo all you want but you can't put makeup on a pig.

seiko Saturday boys where you at

>>13868703
Why would anyone pay 500$ for a too big too thicc seiko 5 that says Tissot on the dial

>>13868635
disgusting shit

>>13868635
pls post sum puss

>>13868754
>Hamilton drunk edition reporting in

>>13867904
https://www.chrono24.com/search/index.htm?dosearch=true&manufacturerIds=221&maxAgeInDays=0&pageSize=60&priceFrom=0&priceTo=6500&redirectToSearchIndex=true&sortorder=0

>>13868660
61. I actively wear about half, but it depends on what's new in the collection and what the weather is.

>>13868660
6. I wear two of them pretty interchangeably as daily watches, plus a dress watch, plus three vintage fun ones to mix it up occasionally.

>>13867904
Sea Dweller for 6500
https://www.chrono24.com/rolex/rolex-16600-stainless-steel-40mm-sea-dweller--id7827867.htm

>>13869030
DeepSea*

>>13864821
nice and minty. enjoy it man.

>>13864705
speedmaster MOTFM
rolex polar explorer II
JLC reverso
Patek world time

he's sold and bought the two tones recently and has softened opinion on various models (i still can't tell if he hates seamstress), but i think this list is pretty standard yeah? work with me not against me on the corrections :^)

>>13864723
its down pouring in philly today so i didn't wear my speedmaster and wore a casio f91 out instead. based on absolutely nothing other than theres nothing to gain by wearing it in the rain. probably the same level of risk as when you wash your hands, but why bother if you know its raining?

>>13864734
its the piece you wear when you're out on the beat

>>13867723
i love the explorer except for the numerals

>>13868660
3 in rotation. speedmaster, casio f91, and swatch tarot. rotation is based entirely on weather/activity like beach or rain is automatic casio f91, or outfit. sometimes the clothes are real formal so its fun to throw in a bright colored swatch to add some lightheartednes. or wearing the speedmaster with a really basic cheap outfit smartens the whole thing up and gives you a pass for dressing like a bum with a shiny bracelet.

>>13865084
Patek Calatrava with roman numerals and small seconds hand or VC equivalent is my grail rn. black alligator band. i don't have a dress watch and want one of these by the time I'm 50.

>>13864705
Grand Seikos, especially the Snowflake

Top this

>>13869474

>>13868191
What model is this?

>>13866821
>a gold watch to wear daily
SNK366K1

>>13866812
>SNK366k and costs $250
https://www.ebay.com/itm/SEIKO-5-SNK366K1-Automatic-37mm-Gold-tone-Stainless-Steel-Mens-Watch/332876867416

What's a good simple watch with leather straps?

>>13869787
Just buy a good leather strap for a good watch.

Just received this watch to add to my collection. 1970's Aquastar Regate, pretty banged up glass but in good shape other than that. What do you guys think?

>>13869493

>>13868660
what style of watch is that bottom right one and what is its functionality/purpose?

>>13869856
it's for yacht racing iirc

>>13869474

>>13864690
white, black looks like it's stealing my soul.

Is anyone here familiar with Bruno Söhnle at all?

>>13869779
$146 USD is a bit over $200 AUD. Not quite 250 but still.

>>13868660

6 (shittahs). Bambino as dress other 5 is just whenever I fancy

>>13869826
Beautiful trapezoid date. Hard to top.

>>13869878
Yeah
He’s a cunt

Are there any watches that are similar to an OP OP/explorer/Seiko-sarb without being Seiko or GS or Rolex? Also, not Aqua Terra or BB 36
If this was the kind of case and aesthetics I wanted to go for, do you have any alternative suggestions?

>>13870162
>Seiko-sarb
https://www.mrmontre.com/alternatives-seiko-sarb033.html

>>13870174
>that link
None of those had the same aesthetics as the sarb033.

>>13870162
Ball marvelight?

>>13869733
Richard Lange
https://m.alange-soehne.com/en/timepieces/richard-lange/#richard-lange

>>13870036
Boy I wish they'd make the bambino v2 on a smaller size.

>>13870203
It's like watch brands purposely make their affordable line of watches ALMOST perfect, and then charge 3 times as much for limited editions with the problem fixed

>>13870206
I dont get why orient doesn't put sapphire on ray and mako 2s to finally put a nail in any debate whether it's better than an skx (I know seiko is the parent company. They still operate as their own thing though). I feel like there are a ton of extremely little things that big watch companies (good ones) dont do that could easily help their market share by a lot.


It feels like fucking video games where the 18 layers of company red tape stops products from JUST delivering. It isnt like automatic watches are flying off the shelves to normalfags, the autistic enthusiasts on forums making microbrands sell out preorders should have an affect on seiko/orient/whatever

>>13870242
I think they do use sapphire in their "USA" versions

>>13870247
They do, and honestly it's a really good sign from them. Spec wise it delivers what you'd expect from $315 watch, better lume, better movement, solid end links too. if it was a ray instead of a mako I would buy it. If they can apply what they learn from the community when they made that to the normal models, they would be golden. Put sapphire on ray/mako, charge another 10 if they have to. Keep bambino sizes down. Keep orient star designs relatively tasteful and dont make every amazing looking one a weird limited edition JDM only thing you cant buy (they have a bunch that have red sunburst dials that are beautiful, and completely impossible to buy)

Tsup /wt/

>>13870291
Does citizen have loyal fans? Do people have citizen collections? I feel like they are the vaguest just unremarkable watches. They are fine, they have eco drive going for them I guess. But they lack character, you pass by them like a random person on the street, a random CITIZEN.

>>13870311
Literally my first watch. I'm thinking of buying a Seiko next.

How

>>13870311
I don't generally curate my collection based on the knowledge of the average person on the street.

I tried to troubleshoot the module I had.
The problem is some fucked up wirebonds due to battery leakage.
Nice to leave them unprotected like that.
Those are pretty impossible to fix without a microscope, proper materials and a pair of very steady hands.
If the one you have stops working, take out the battery immediately.

>>13870335
That looks good, albeit like the penis seikos. I don't think there is anything wrong with them, just genuinely wondering though if they have enough loveable iconic models that they have die hard fans or "citizen collectors" like the people that buy 18 similar seikos.

I like their JDM only line Independent (are they suppose be more fashiony, or like whatever the fuck wired is to seiko?), I eventually want one. Lot of weird experimental designs, at least for their old digitals. The newer stuff I just see chronographs

Did l fuck up?

>>13870426
That is one weird case.
I don’t know.

What watches are worth searching second-hand?
They must be - avalaible worldwide (so i can actually find them on my local Ebay analog), not be a luxury one (so i can grab them for cheap), durable (so 10+ year old one will be perfectly good).
Seiko? Casio?

>>13870445
Citizen echo drive. Just pick the model you like.

>>13870440
That's why l like it.

>>13870456
Welp good for you

anyone remember that watch ad of a man squeezing a titty while wearing some luxury watch? I thought it was a patek but I can't find it anymore

>>13870317
There's nothing with it, don't allow people who buy russian shitters and casio to ever talk down to you
How much was it?

>>13870320
I guess dude was right, I think they're crazy
Can buyers try and screw you over claiming it doesn't work properly trying to keep the watch and get a refund?

>>13870320
You are welcome anon, now you know how to sell.

Got this cheap seiko with an Arabic daydate from my dead grandfather.

>>13870497
How did he gave it to you if he was dead? What the fuck

Do you guys have any stylish recommendations for a watchbox? Not reallly liking the look of the cheap ones.

>>13870509

>>13870499
My dad gave it to me after grandpa’s death

>>13870509

>>13870426
>not a MOTFM
Yes, you fucked up.

>>13868660
2 Swiss, 2 Jap shitters

I wear my Omega way more than my Tag and may ditch the Tag before long to get a Speedy or IWC.

I don't like Rolex as I'm not fat

>>13870576
I don't want a MOTFM. MOTFM's are for npc's who have no taste.

>>13870378
There are certainly some citizen watches that are historically important technically.

>>13870426
Yes. You should have bought a vintage Mark 4.5 with the Lemania 5100 instead.

>>13870651
Why? Reminds me of an old lady with yellow teeth.

>>13870599
>It's popular therefore it's bad

>>13870651
Put an engineer bracelet on it, would look sick af desu senpai

Ok /wt/ serious question. What is the ULTIMATE seiko 5 variant?

>>13870688
Hands down, this takes the cake.

is the 100-400 price range wasted money?

>>13870715
yes

>>13870715
Depends what you are buying.

>>13870705
>that glorious two tone oyster

>>13870715
No

>>13870730
what I meant is that for me it looks like the sub 100 range has lots of nice watches that someone could buy just for the sake of it like the digital casios or seiko 5 but generally watches starting from 400 seem far superior than the 200-300 ones which aren't inexpensive so I might as well save money and buy a good watch

>>13870715
Yes and no. $100-$500 is probably the best value for your money if you're just going to get one or two watches in that range, but it's also easy to fall into the trap of spending so much money on a pile of $300 shitters that you could have just bought one good watch instead.

>>13870715
Its a decent range. Personally I feel that the 1000-5000 is the range with the biggest pitfalls

>>13870667
>Why?
Because the Lemania 5100 is the best mechanical tool watch chronograph movement ever made.

>>13870683
Have never paired it with an engineer, but I like it on a shark mesh, and a modern solid president style bracelet. I have the original bracelet as well, but I don't use it.

>>13870363
I'll do that, the screen started fading again. I'll take the battery out when I get home. Thanks for the pic, basically I can say goodbye to the watch. When I bought it there was a battery and although it looked corroded it didn't seem to have leaked a lot but I gess something went inside. I'll keep the watch because I like the looks but it's to bad it's wasted.

>>13870803
I'm pretty sure your problem is not due to failures in the wirebonds, in those cases the watch will have missing segments or it would just not work at all.

>>13870739
what model is it?

>>13870773
>Because the Lemania 5100 is the best mechanical tool watch chronograph movement ever made.
>wanting to fuck an old hag because her organs are still intact
The sad state of /g/

>>13870934
The blue one

>buying anything other than original and authentic timepieces

What is wrong with you?

>>13871010
(You)

>>13871069
Thanks :)

>>13870871
It's starts fading some segments and then fades the full display.

who else got mocked by their family for their watch at Thanksgiving?

Do you even diy rebrushing?

>>13871137
I actually got complemented

>>13871146
Glad your aunt liked it.

>>13871137
haha it looks like a toy anon! how much did it cost haha?

>>13871089
Want to send it to me so I could take a look?
No guarantee of results though.

>>13871141
What the fuck

>>13870934
It has a 4R35 movement and a 40mm case with hardlex
Still want to know?

>>13871188
Huh?

>>13871137
My parents love my Tuna, I'm thinking of getting my dad one.

>>13871229
Yes

>>13871256
https://www.longislandwatch.com/Seiko_SRPB41_Presage_Watch_p/srpb41.htm
Tax free if you don't like in NY
Faggot Marc, better give me commissions for this shit

>>13871172
I don't think it's worth the hassle. It was very cheap. I'm from Portugal btw. Where would I send it?

>>13871141

Seems a little coarse tbqh..

>>13870688
The H Moser & Cinq

Why is the white sarb superior to the black?
-more strap options
-more pure
-classier overall

>>13871303
Yeah, you are probably right in that.
I am from Finland.

>>13866302
All homages are nothing but a steaming pile of shit.

>>13870469
Costed about 100 euros

>>13871141
LMAO IT LOOKS LIKE YOU FELL OFF A SKATEBOARD

>>13868448
I can’t tell if you’re ignorant or just an idiot. Cartier has been making in house movements for years including annual calendars and tourbillons. Before that, they used JLC, Piguet, and Piaget movements in their high end watches.

>>13871055
>be a customs worker
>find a watch
>it's got a holo sticker that says, in Chinese, "original and authentic"
>no problems here, govna
I'm so glad, Rolex, Omega, Patek, A. Lange, and every other Swiss watch company started using these stickers.

>>13870497
if you push the crown in it'll probably switch from Arabic to English.

is there a poorfag vintage watch guide

>>13871959
Not really. I wrote some stuff up in the used watch pastebin. In terms of vintage quartz seiko king quartz is the way to go. In terms of mechanical, there's so much variety it's hard to say, but there are still omega seamaster cal 565 values out there. In terms of tuning fork go for an accutron 218, they are reliable movements and decent values. Or ask real questions.

What happens when the inevitable silicon and molecular printing wars begin between the houses in terms of competing escapement designs with new oscillators? Also, do you think it's now too late for the Daniel's escapement to make the difference it could have made if it appeared in the early 1930s? Also do you guys consider the new oscillators (specifically the Zenith, but also the AP and other designs as well) to be 'traditional' in the sense that the watch is still controlled by physical actions and reactions, or do you see it as a form of cheating due to the new materials being used?

>>13872032
I don’t know, guy.

>>13872032
I just want zenith to release something that isn't huge and skeletonized with their silicon oscillator movement to be honest. That said even if all that changes is the escape wheel and pallet fork all start being made of silicon that seems like a good thing in the long run. Why not use parts with higher longevity?

>>13872038
I use my wallet as a watch pillow that way I don't forget either one in the morning

>>13872039
The reason I bring it up was because I had no idea that other companies were experimenting with new oscillators...but they are. GP has one, Zenith has theirs, both silicon printed I think, while AP has one that they claim works without lubrication but is of relatively traditional materials.

Given the history, one would think that all of them are trying to develop something that will be as universally adopted as the lever escapement, but the way I see it, the new technology that is continuously being developed around silicon printing means that there are many possibilities as to how to regulate an escape wheel.

To make matters more complicated, couldn't it be possible that eventually you'd reach a kind of standard of rate that would be 0.0 or close to it across the spectrum of manufacturers, such that individual design differences wouldn't actually matter? At that point, the only things that would matter when buying a watch would be what it looked like, and what materials the outer shell was made of. It would be the quartz revolution all over again, only this time, it might be worse.

Of course, we just have to wait a few years before the Chinese start printing these movements....

>>13872032
>What happens when the inevitable silicon and molecular printing wars begin between the houses in terms of competing escapement designs with new oscillators?
That's not really an inevitability. The only established player in the industry with a potential incentive to try and be disruptive with mass produced engineered silicon oscillator movements is LVMH, due to their also-ran status in most market segments.

However, LVMH could always decide they don't want to attempt to fundamentally disrupt the under $3500 market segment, and reserve their engineered silicon oscillator movements for more expensive and limited production pieces where they would just become another niche movement type.

>Also do you guys consider the new oscillators (specifically the Zenith, but also the AP and other designs as well) to be 'traditional' in the sense that the watch is still controlled by physical actions and reactions, or do you see it as a form of cheating due to the new materials being used?
They are mechanical but traditional. If you care about the craftsmanship and history more than anything, they won't be for you. If you care.about mechanical can, then they are fascinating.

>>13872065
Mechanical but NOT traditional, I meant.

>>13872054
I don't think that'll happen for quite a while, if at all. It'd have to come down in price enough to end up in shitters rather than 'haute horology' pieces. Zenith's amazing new oscillator still does "only" 0.3s/d, which is comparable to a cheap quartz watch. To try and make a fully mechanical movement anywhere near HAQ levels of accuracy would be amazing to say the least.

>>13871170
lmao that's exactly what happened. I didn't say the price but because I mentioned it was a "Seiko tuna" they googled it and mocked me.

>>13872065
But this is my point.

Right now, they're doing exactly what you describe: the silicon oscillators for both companies are reserved for their higher-up pieces. But once the Chinese develop (i.e. steal) the technology to do so and print en masse, then the Swiss will have no choice but to find a way to deal with it. Hell, if the Japanese went this route, can you imagine what that would do to their lower end Seiko department? At least their spring drive is somewhat different, so they'd have to the two in the lineup - an escapement, and a spring drive. But the Swiss would be shit out of luck...

>>13872070
I wonder about this though. I've been thinking a bit about this problem only because the silicon oscillators really are an extreme step towards greater control, but because they are not handmade themselves, it removes a huge segment of the advertising ideas behind high-end watches, namely, that they're handmade by old men using centuries of passed down experience and heritage. Once you do away with that kind of advertising ploy, what do you have? You can't compete with high end quartz movements for accuracy, so that window's gone. You can't compete with a movement made entirely by hand (like old Daniels).

In other words, by replacing a component that is the most important for the watch with one that is printed by technology and not crafted by hand, it has moved outside of the realm in the same way that Quartz did in the 70's. And in all honesty I'm not sure what possible restriction there can be in terms of either the Japanese or the Chinese replicating this cheaper. Maybe not today...but 5 years from now? All they need to do is buy a Zenith, reverse engineer the design and tolerances, and get a hold of the machining necessary to print the parts. I'd be astonished if this was not accomplished within a decade...does anyone know of what could keep this from happening?

>>13872086
inb4 >>13872065 answers you by talking about GS being the only manufacturer with the photolithography investment to produce these at scale.

>>13872086
>But once the Chinese develop (i.e. steal) the technology to do so and print en masse
They won't be able to do it for the next few decades at least. The Chinese Government has much higher priorities for photolithographic equipment than making watch movements.

>Hell, if the Japanese went this route, can you imagine what that would do to their lower end Seiko department?
Seiko Epson would be unlikely to make the first move on this front due to internal corporate politics, which would likely regard these types of movements as a threat to the market position of Spring Drive models.

That said, if LVMH were to take the plunge and go full bore on trying to disrupt the sub $3,500 market, Seiko Epson would be in a position to fairly quickly ramp up to large scale production of these types of movements due to having considerable photolithographic production capacity on hand from their semiconductor division.

>>13872090
Kek. It's Seiko Epson's semiconductor devision that has the large scale photolithographic capacity. Seiko Instruments Grand Seiko division has a tiny production capacity by comparison.

>>13872090
Sorry, did you mean Grand Seiko? Or was this a misprint for 'GP'

>...answers you by talking about GS being the only manufacturer with the photolithography investment to produce these at scale.

I thought LVMH was only the Swiss manufacturers? Obviously LVMH would shoot themselves in the foot if they made these oscillators available from the ground up, that much is clear. But Seiko isn't a part of that, and they'd definitely have the ability to research this tech, wouldn't they?

And again, the Chinese. What is holding them back?

>>13872099
Interesting, on all points. The Chinese argument makes sense, I guess, but the Seiko one...how do you know about the internal politics?

Also, when you said they have considerable capacity from their semiconductor division....well, then they'd be the No. 1 threat to the Swiss, right?

>>13872103
Fair enough. Always good to have you around to dispense actual facts.

By the way, I remember you being curious - my Daini 5spy HAQ twin quartz superior is performing very well so far, on par with Suwa produced HAQ superiors. I haven't done a controlled test yet but will post the results when I do.

>>13872105
What he was referring to is that while LVMH would have to buy the photolithographic capacity to be able to industrialize production of silicon oscillator movements, Seiko Epson likely has enough existing photolithographic capacity to be able to produce these types of movements at industrial quantities without having to add any capacity, and since he recognized me, he was joking because he knew I would end up mentioning that fact.

>but the Seiko one...how do you know about the internal politics?
Large Japanese companies tend to have fairly stuffy, traditional corporate cultures. While Seiko Epson is the more innovative and experimental of the two main Seiko divisions, they are still very Japanese, and aren't usually inclined to adopt disruptive technological change right away, especially when it would undermine their existing product hierarchy. Seiko Epson spent decades developing Spring Drive, and basically regards it as their watchmaking pride and joy.

>>13872108
Thanks. Interesting about the Daini HAQ. I need to read up on Daini's quartz production in that period a bit more, I don't even know off hand whether they were making their high end quartz movements completely internally at Daini or not in that period.

>>13872181
Interesting. Thanks for the knowledge Anon. I guess that ends that line of discussion....lol Have a beautiful watch for your trouble.

>>13866695
Super nice

>>13870773
Why is that lemania the best?

>>13872099
They would still need to actually develop the movement.

>>13872303
Because, so long as you accept the premise that the goal for a mechanical tool watch chronograph is the reliable ability to accurately time events (and not the running time, since a non chronograph can do that just as well), the the L5100's technical advantages put it head and shoulders past any of its competitors.

It has:

1) A vertical clutch, meaning smooth engagement of he chronograph and no initial littering of the chronograph second hand.

2) Cam actuation, which is more robust against shocks than column wheel designs.

3) A central register chronograph minute hand, greatly increasing chronograph legibility.

4) The chronograph is directly driven, massively increasing shock resistance and g-force resistance compared to indirectly driven chronographs, which can overcome the spring tension meshing the chronograph to the drivetrain and cause the chronograph to stop running brief intervals.

The L5100 is the only mass produced directly driven chronograph ever made, as far as I know.

>>13872318
*Initial jittering

*Stop running for brief intervals

Fucking phone.

>>13872318
Wow pretty cool stuff

>>13872032
The real question here is that will manufacturers compete in making those new non traditional mechanical movements that offer quartz accuracy?
The answer is no, because those movements do not have the soul of a mechanical watch in the same way as the traditional mechanicals do.
Modern mechanical watch market is based on luxury, emotions, tradition, craftmanship and finishing. No need to come up with new movement types that fight with some of the principles.
Personally I think new developments will come in the quartz department with built in atomic clocks most likely.

>>13864684
new thread
>>13872468
>>13872468
>>13872468

Should you trust a 100m rated watch with a pressed-in caseback?

What's the /fa/ opinion on bulova?

>>13873542
How is your wrist so small compared to your hand? Some sort of genetic anomaly?

>>13873563
Tbh I didn't even know it looks so fucked up till now... Wtf is wrong with my hand?

>>13871372
the white sarb is fucking ugly you should have bought the black one you brainlet fuck

>>13873542
Soft brand. Don’t buy SHITTERS

should I get one?

what's /wt/s opinion of them?

I used to think it was the ugliest thing ever but the more I see pictures of it, the more I am wanting one for some reason

>>13869878
Looks like a rip of Jungans.