/fa/ - Fashion

Same Anon as the DMC5 jacket in the other thread. Here's probably my favorite of my casual jackets, though I've lost weight since the photo was taken a few years back. Still fits well, but it's now a little less sculpted (as the leather has softened up). Thanks again to everyone for their thoughts in the other thread...I'm still learning, but I think I've finally figured out why the palettes for that jacket are always going to be in the grey/black/white area, but I'll post reasons in that thread when I've narrowed them down.

Look forward to seeing other jackets here.

>>13460891
Welcome comrade. Make? Logan? Looks lush. What care routine. I’ve had Pecards recommended to me as softener/hydrator.

Howmst would one go about straightening wrinkled leather like pic related?

>>13460874
Should add it took me 5 yrs to track this down after it first escaped me. Gipsy is an affordable German brand of decent quality.

>>13460903
It was done by a company that is no longer in operation many years ago, and it was constructed custom to my measurements (hence why it fits so well). This is the issue I mentioned in the other thread that is so damned important about leather...it has to fit well, or else it looks not great.

I have no care routine except to hang it on hangers that have shoulders (so, not wire hangers but ones you'd use for suits), and that's it. It's seen rain, and it's seen cigar and pipe smoke, and it's gone through everything from being stuffed in an overhead compartment on an overnight flight to being crushed in my luggage on the way back.

Basically, wear it. Pecards is good, but in truth I've never had to even buy a bucket because nearly all new leather jackets you buy today are already well oiled. The only time you need Pecards is it you live in desert conditions, or if you are buying a second hand jacket that is in need of tender loving care. The natural oils in your skin and sweat will oil the jacket, so unless you remove the oils by washing it in a machine or something, your jacket will not need a Pecards treatment for probably a decade or so (and that's if you use it on a motorcycle year in/year out).

>>13460906
I don't think you can. Depending on the type of leather, it'll wrinkle with time and exposure to water according to the grain. If this is your jacket, I'd say keep it as is, and wear the hell out of it. A double rider jacket with this kind of age/wear is something that is rather special, especially if it's all original.

But that's the catch with leather. It ages with wear, and how it ages is dependent upon the leather used, who's wearing it, and what the purpose of wearing it might be. However, you'll never get it to a smoothness that you'll see for instance in new lambskin.

>>13460908
It's horrible to 'lose' a jacket, only to spend time trying to find it again. Glad you tracked it down OP.

Well, that died pretty quickly....
In the past, people would ask about a specific jacket (i.e. 'should I cop this?' or 'is this worth it?')...but having a thread dedicated solely to leather jackets....I don't honestly think there's enough interest.

The intentions are good...I just don't think there's enough interest here....unless of course a pile of responses prove me wrong...

I’ll be posting more shit tomorrow. Out at the mo.

My friend can give me a brighter variant of pic related for super cheap, can anybody suggest what would go well with it?

>>13461834
Depends on what you're trying to say with the style. The double-rider is aggressive, no matter what, but a brighter green makes it somewhat less serious. Should I assume (from the pic) that it's also a woman's jacket, not a men's?

whats the one in your pic op?

Actually riding a motorcycle while wearing this.

>>13461856
Its a men's and more of an emerald green in person.

>>13462650
It's unusual. Off the top of my head, I'd guess brighter colours towards the yellow spectrum, or darker towards the blue. Going red is the most extreme, so if you are going to go red it shouldn't be a large piece (like red trousers with the jacket or something).

If you live in a tropical country or an island with lots of sun, then I think this could look pretty good. If you're living in a cold rainy shithole though....well, the jacket gives off a very 'happy' vibe, so you should tailor your personality accordingly....

>>13461834
Also, I forgot to ask, is it real leather? If it's for supercheap, it's probably not....but I think it's important to ask.

>>13462685
I live in a pretty dull climate although its been rather summery recently.
Picked up pic a year ago and thought they would pair pretty nicely with the jacket.

>>13460931
Yeah, it's my own property.
Guess I'll just have to find a brand new one if there's no secret trick to smoothen out used-up leather.

>>13462704

>green leather jacket
>green accents on sneakers
>babby’s first fit.

>>13462967
It looks good man. There is no trick to smoothing out used leather, but don't think of it as 'used-up', as if somehow the usefulness or function of the leather is now gone. Your jacket is probably very comfortable, very soft to the touch, and more like a fabric than it is a skin. That's something that takes years to accomplish if you buy a leather jacket new, and depending on the skin, it can take even longer.

If you buy a new leather jacket, you will definitely get the uniformity of skin that you're looking for...but it'll be a little stiff depending on the hide and the manufacturer. If I were you, I'd wear that one proudly.

My taylor stitch wiskey steerhide jacket

I have the boots that go with it as well

>>13463163
Nice! It looks warm and supple...given the creases at the elbows, I'm guessing you've had it about 1 or 2 years (?)

The colour is really nice too....

one of four leathers I own
lighting in my house sucks

>>13463831
Jesus Christ...what is it? I mean, what is it...who designed it, and what is it made of?

It looks cool, but I can't imagine for the life of me what you'd wear it over...

>>13463838
haha, right
It's a high neck calfskin jacket made by Isaac Sellam. I wear a lot of 'artisanal' stuff with a darker palette. The jacket is definitely a statement piece so I tend to pair it with a tee shirt and a pair of dark jeans. The torso is lined in wool so I can get away with a tee even when it's chilly.

>>13463842
Nice! The pic says 'calf'...is it calfskin? The pic makes it look like it's a kind of suede, with front vent zippers (I'd assume those are motorcycle vents and not long pockets, but I could be wrong)....

Did he make it for you, or did you get it fitted afterward?

>>13460891
dont like the topstitching, looks cheap. also red lining si a bit tacky
>>13460906
i think it's a sign of cheap quality? unsure

>>13460874
no you didn't, tragic

>>13463858
Understandable; the topstitching idea has been overdone by the low-end pakistani leather jacket companies that have all but taken over the world...they'll do it on every part of the jacket (elbows, shoulders, you name it), and since this design predates all of that...well, it's a 'necessary evil of association' that I can live with.

Funny about the red lining...that was the selling point to me. But, I understand your viewpoint...it's not for everyone, and it can be difficult to pull off if the personality isn't supportive of the idea...

>>13463855
It's calfskin, as I mentioned in the post above. Whatever his dye/wash treatment is gives it a really interesting look but it's smooth to the touch. Looks kind of like it's waxed but it's not. Those are in fact long pockets.

It actually fit me off the shelf. He makes most of his stuff using curved seam anatomical construction to fit the natural curves of the limbs. For more on that technique look up Daisuke Nishida (Devoa).

>>13463875
Sorry, I'm a little drunk and missed the calfskin because I was focusing on the name. I just looked up some of his stuff....my god, I've never spent that much on a jacket before.

You've got a hell of a piece man...wear it well, and enjoy the fuck out of it!

>>13463876
I don't wear it often enough but it feels great, kinda like armor. It's still not even close to broken in.

I have another calfskin blazer from Isaac Sellam that I wear much more often. It's much less structured and consequently more versatile.

>>13460874

How does he do it?

>>13460891
Damn that's nice where'd you get it

>tfw I'll never pull off the 1920s aviator look
>tfw the jacket's sleeves are too short for my ape arms

>>13464511
In all honesty, it looks more like an 80's leather jacket, in terms of design, placement of buttons and shit, etc. It's probably been relined (from what I can see of the lining) too. For a jacket that is 'double-breasted' like this one, no matter what you need a rather thin frame for it to work (like double-breasted suits)....if you wear it open, there's a shittonne of material flapping around, which definitely worked in the 80s when excess was everything, but now it just looks sloppy (unless you find a way to counteract it...maybe skinny jeans or something).

Don't worry about arms; you can always go custom with the major jacket companies regarding this. If you buy from Schott, Aero, or any of the other major manufacturers you should be able to customize the sleeve length; Aero in particular makes very good aviator and flying jackets.

Don't worry Anon...there always possibilities. You just have to save a bit more...

How do I clean and maintain lambskin?
noticing some fading

>>13464872
What colour is it, and is the fading due to sun exposure?

>>13463865
>nobody on 4chan has sex because I don't

>>13464874
boarding plane soon anon, I'll post pics when I get off.

>>13464845
Nah, the lining is original and really hammers home the "early 20th century aviator" theme.

>>13465144
Interesting about the lining, but now that it's known to be Italian, then it all makes sense. If this jacket has sleeves that are too short for you, the only thing you can really do is wear it open, and off the shoulder. You could probably get away with buttoning up the bottom waist area, but if the upper neck and shoulder are left open you could give the illusion that the sleeves are longer than they are. It's a thought...

What I had on me today. Soul revolver Heist. Love me some retro sleaze. Pair of AO Aviators too. Lovely jacket.

>>13465438
Nice! What do you think of their quality? I have one of their jackets on order right now, and I've only heard great things about them from people who've bought their jackets before.

Some stitching detail. Buttery soft and supple.

>>13465444
I’ve owned some “designer” jackets and they were on par at best if not inferior. Well worth the investment.

>>13465449
Sorry, one other question; did you get yours after their switch to the Italian factory a few years ago, or before?

The leather looks soft, and nice....though I'd personally have difficulty wearing the 'flowers' underneath (it doesn't work with my skin-tone), the combo is definitely a good one.

>>13465454
Awesome....thank you for letting me know (and falling in line with everything I've heard so far)...it's always comforting.

>>13465454
This is my summer jacket mainly. I highly recommend the thermal lining option.

>>13465457
This is from the Italian factory. Pakistan was some of their earlier stuff :p is this Dante I’m talking too?

>>13465461
It's good to know.

>>13465463
Of course! God, I can't fucking wait for my jacket to arrive....post some more pics, if you can of your Soul Revolvers (are you the guy with 5 of them?)....it helps tie me over.....

>>13465463
Yeah, there was a big discussion about their changeover, and how not only the quality increased significantly but also the price (which irked a few people). But really, the reputation of their Italian factory stuff is exemplary, so I'm just glad that it continues to work out 'in real life'.

What made you decide to go with this particular version (as they make many different kinds with this pattern...all black, red like the fight club, antiqued, etc...)?

>>13465464
I’ll upload my fabric Austrian m65 next to my Reese olive SL leather M65 tomorrow.

>>13465472
My antiqued Fight Club is coming :p

The Heist I got for its versatility and retro aesthetic. It was my first. It’s just a solid little number that compliments so much combinatorially.

>>13464511
Undoubtedly 80s, my man. If you really love it wear it. If you’re after an oldschool aviator look then invest in a remake of those old jackets or settle for an A2 bomber. Seriously see jackets just like this one in thrift every time and I always breeze past em. I’m not into the 80s fits

>>13465482
That makes sense.

>My antiqued Fight Club is coming :p

FUCK YEAH!

I've heard really good things about that one too; it's slimmer and less stocky than the original JAL, and with the antiqued leather you don't have to do much to it for it to 'fit in'. It's still a tough one though in my view to pair with stuff, or perhaps I should say, it's a 'challenge'. But if you already have the 70's aesthetic going, then it'll just be another colour combination....the 70's thing just doesn't work on me, yet.

Do you have any guilt about having a potential 'double' in your wardrobe? As in, do you think you'll truly wear it a lot, or do you think one of the two jackets will eventually end up as 'the option' for 'the primary'?

It's funny about the Dante...over in the other thread, people are having conniption fits over it, and it comes in waves....it's like, I think it's over, and then like the tides another Anon says the same thing an Anon said days ago, and the whole thing repeats.

Such is life...

>>13465500
Open two tabs. One with heist and the other with FC. The differences aren’t crazy but they’re there. Tell me what you see :)

I don’t believe red Heist has the cream stitching.

>>13462026
Gipsy “Chan” I believe.

My suede jacket - sorry for the bad lighting

>>13465508
Of course, there are minor differences, but in terms of what the jacket does, that's where I'd personally have difficulty.

In other words, they have several things in common: size, drape, and closure. The details within all of this of course make these different jackets, but the for a man on a galloping horse, it's the same jacket in a different colour.

In other words, my concern was because if you have, say, a Heist jacket and a cafe racer, you have two very different aesthetics that appeal to different design lines. But with the Heist and Fight club, you have simply a 'variation on a theme' of thigh length 70's car-coat. It's not a criticism at all, it's simply what would concern me if I had one of each in the closet. Beyond the colour, I'd most likely fall into the situation where one jacket gets used a lot, and the other would be the one that comes out when I need a change of pace but still want the same basic lines. Does that make sense?

That's why I asked if you have ever had that situation. I have a double which I don't like having at all currently....two cafe racers that, although I love them both, they are in many ways redundant. One brown, one black. One with vertical stripes, one with horizontal. One with raglan sleeves, one with normal yoke etc. But sadly, one gets worn a hell of a lot, and the other one is the 'when I need a change'.

It's tough having lots of jackets...and I'm starting to understand why people downsize their collection after a few years.

>>13465530
I get you. I justify it in terms of the colourprimarily. I wouldn’t have gotten it in Black for example. Purple however....

>>13465554
Yeah, that makes sense. Purple...hm...that would work...I think. Wear it in good health man...

>>13465558
Purple with the antiquing effect they have on their red Hybrid. Check that out. A nice dark purple with that weathered effect....nom nom nom! I can get away with outrageous colour schemes.

how do you wear leather without looking fedora?

>>13465629
Don’t wear a fedora with the jacket. Simple. Oh and do the obese...

>>13465577
Yeah, it definitely looks good. Their antiqued red always appealed to me, in just about any jacket they make. The colour is simply awesome.

>>13465629
Get fit, and make sure that the jacket you buy fits you well.

There are lots of general problems with the common man buying a leather jacket, and what they don't realize is that unlike synthetics, leather really doesn't look good if it's the wrong size or shape, or if the body underneath it is the wrong size or shape. It's unforgiving, in other words.

To make matters worse, people tend to buy their first leather jacket either from a department store off-the-rack, or from a place that 'specializes' in leather....in either case, they're not buying custom in terms of sizing. The assumption being that a small failure in sizing will not be noticeable because 'it's a leather jacket'.

>>13465671 is right about not being obese, but it's more than that. Obesity is the first element to conquer, and then after that, you have to find a design that benefits your figure and doesn't make fun of it, then order one and custom size it to your proportions (usually the sleeves need tailoring, and in some cases, the bottom of the jacket as well). Then of course there are other elements to consider: what goes with the jacket, and how that fits into your general style.

Finally, the jacket should be an extension of your personality. You wear the jacket, the jacket doesn't wear you. Does that make sense?

>>13465629
One last thing: sometimes there are iconic designs that simply will not work for your body type or height. This is something which we all must accept, but especially when it comes to leather. With synthetics, we can stretch the limit, but leather just doesn't budge on this. If our body doesn't look good wearing double-breasted suits, for instance, it's unlikely we'll look good in a leather pea-coat or leather military jacket. If you're super-thin, you can wear just about anything and it'll look good (although A-2s tend to look odd on really thin people because you simply get two sticks for their legs coming out of a bulgy pillowcase)....but if you're round, or fat, or chubby, then you have to think of what frames your body well, what frames your face well, and what helps you rather than hurts you in terms of silhouette (because leather jacket silhouettes tend to be very sharp).

Finally, you have to understand the historical design lines behind the jacket in order to know quickly what fit is ideal and what goes with it. Obviously it's possible to diversify the look according to modern fashion trends, but you really should know what the jacket was built for originally in order to know what you're going away from or rebelling against.

Are you thinking of getting one Anon?

>>13465526
Looks good i've been in the market for a good black suede jacket

>>13462037
Brand? Does it fit and ventilate well for riding? How much you pay for it? Also looking for a riding jacket

>>13466186
brand is on the tag
it's a schott perfecto cafe racer jacket

Could I get some opinions on this jacket before buying

>>13467194
Are you black or have a thin build?

>>13467253
Persian and thin build

>>13467270
You'd probably look alright in it

>>13467271
Its reallllly cheap, like 150 dollars. IS that gonna be a problem?

>>13465629

I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again. The MAJORITY of people who buy leathers for fashion buy too big of a jacket. ESPECIALLY when it comes to the classic motorcycle jacket.

For fashion: the jacket needs to be tight and cropped, it should be tight enough that it can’t be zippered or that it’s a real fucking struggle to zipper. The jacket should end at your belt. It should show your entire ass.

>>13460874
Spicemonkey?

>>13467277
Generally depends on where it's coming from and who makes it. If you can try it on instore then go for it before buying.

Thank you for your service, Goodwill

I’m amazed how leather jacket threads don’t do better on /fa/. I imagine it’s expense related....

>>13468598
Google is your friend :)

Just bought this for 200$ got 50% off. How does it look?

>>13469508
Wops mfw

>>13468821
GOOD cop

>>13469509
>>13469509
looks good on him

>>13463831
damn dude that thing probably cost like 10k.

what job do you have, and how do i get it?

don't buy a leather jacket if you're under 6'0

>>13469248
I warned the OP about this possible problem in my thread on the DMC5 jacket. I think it's two-fold; expense, of course, but also because leather jackets in today's world are seen as 1 item in a wardrobe, not 5 or 6. So, most people either don't have one, or have one that fits badly. There's no reason to discuss it because the wardrobe conforms to the jacket, not the other way around like shoes or shirts.

If you have one jacket, how much can you discuss? If you're looking for a jacket, I can understand that...this thread would be exceedingly useful for people who want to buy a leather jacket but have no idea where to begin. But beyond this...it'll be rather quiet, I think.

>>13469508
It looks okay...the question is, how does it look on you? If the cuffs end at the right place, if the shoulders are perfect and not wide or too narrow, if the waist is not bunched but not billowy....that sort of thing is the only thing that matters.

>>13469611
Disagree. Tom Cruise proves that daily.

Anyone know a decent cheap asymmetric leather jacket under about 150 or 200? Something like this but not fucking H&M.

>>13469847
You can find them, but either you go vintage (and beat up) or if new then they will be made of fake leather.

If you're just trying the style out, then go with fake leather from any number of brands...but if you're looking to own it for the long haul, save up. Fake leather gives you far more problems than it's worth, especially once it starts shredding....

>>13468821
Awesome, how much did you get it for?

>>13469847
History bunker. Panzer Wrap in Brown (black is NAZI larp). Nice and sharp.

>>13470647
$25. Maybe slightly high by thrift standards, but unbeatable overall

>>13469847
Soul revolver jackets can be purchased in cowhide variants as opposed to lamb Napa. I suggest you check out some of their options.

>>13460874
Good light jacket for warmer weather

>>13471968
Looks lovely and soft.

>>13462037
>sees easy rider once

bump

What would you wear with a leather trench coat

>>13469609
haha I don't have any kind of fancy job
I'm just really good at finding deals

>>13475336
>dark double-breasted suit
>white shirt
>dark tie
>steel-framed glasses
>wide-brimmed hat
>tight leather gloves
>immaculately polished dress boots
>walking stick
>concealed Walther PPK

You guys think a pair of black dr martens 1460 would go well with this jacket?

What's a reasonable price point for a decent jacket? I've seen a Diesel one I like and its currently going for around £700.
Is it best if I save up for this one rather than skimping out on one that's £150 ish?

>>13476943
I wouldn’t pay over 500 but that’s me personally. ALWAYS go for the higher quality piece. Think of that 700 as an investment brother. In terms of leather you can’t skimp.

>>13476943
Here’s a nice starter piece for you. Hides are heavy and quality is very good, not premium tier like Aero but a great starter piece.

http://www.noble-house.eu/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=32&osCsid=g6jc7i1v0k62u24bd4fvhjbc03

>>13475548
Yes. Can’t go wrong with that.

Arrived 5 mins ago.

>>13477165
post some fit pics!

Grain and stitching detail.

>>13477166
Never. Not a naive 17 year old. Nor do I need affirmation. Fits like a glove. Give Soul revolver your precise measurements and you can’t go wrong.

>>13477166
I’ll post what’s going under it beside it however. Here’s another MONEYSHOT.

Let’s keep this thread alive. Post your cops or what you intend on getting in the future.

Will post Olive M65 when I get a chance.

Oh and here’s the thermal lining. Looks decadent and lustrous. Now I need to find me a Spice Monkey with no teeth...

>>13477165
>>13477172
>>13477181
>>13477186
>>13477198
Looks cool! Congrats man...it's easily one of the best designs out there for casual vintage.

On a separate and rather sad note...does anyone know what happened to my thread? It's not on the catalog, nor is it in the archive....what the fuck happened?

I saw that. Legit what the fuck. It not being archived is bizarro shit.

>>13477236
Oh and thanks, congrats on yours too man. Post some fits that you xperiment with underneath it if you’re inclined here.

None of you can pull off a leather jacket proof me wrong this thread is le reddit le mfa le cringe, amigos

>>13477631
Thanks for the contribution peasant - now fuck off babby.

Leather M65. I pair this with a nice white cable knit, gray jeans and black Solovair Chelsea boots.

>>13468821
That's fucking sick

>>13477198
Incidentally, I forgot to ask. What made you decide to go with the Thermal Lining? Is it to facilitate wearing fewer layers underneath, or perhaps to increase the potential for use in spring/fall?

>>13477285
Yeah....it's actually a bit of a bummer. There was a fellow asking about budget jackets in a Perfecto style, and I thought I'd given him some useful advice...but I have no idea how he made out. Maybe someone hijacked the thread to a point of no return...I'm thinking of making a new one though...we'll see. But I'll have to take a few more pics first....

>>13478419
Are you actually planning on wearing that outside?

>>13478419
Lining is for precisely that. I say go and post a new thread.

>>13478918
Already have, my man.

>>13479071
Yup, it's there now.
>>>13478510

Should we save this thread guys?

Yes.