/fa/ - Fashion

I have this bad breakout on my nose, it won't go away! Now there's a dark spot on the tip of my nose.

>>11553671
>http://www.skinacea.com/how-to/get-rid-of-dark-circles.html
when did dark eye circles become un-effay?

>using facial products that contain toxic/allergenic/carcinogenic/etc ingredients
>not using dr bronners soap and petroleum jelly

Feels good to be master race

>>11553671

what is the best treatment for oily skin with scars? (no laser)

>>11553989
You can't cure oiliness but the FAQ has a routine for oily skin. What kinds of scars?

>>11553671
Anyone have suggestion on a good sun screen?

>>11553998
I use a "mattifying" one by Avéne but the FAQ has some recommendations as well (haven't tried any of those though).

>>11554002
I see
I picked uphiking and last thing I want is to get burnt to a crisp
Especially since I'm currently super pale.

>>11553993

pitted ones, some deeper some not so deep, also some small holes from blackheads

>>11554006
You should probably get one with SPF 50 then. You're also using sunscreen on your body, right? Also, it's good to wear sunscreen everyday even if you're not hiking to prevent premature aging.

>>11554015
Sorry, you can only fix those with laser treatment.

>>11553998
Jap suncreens like Shiseido or Biore are really good IMO

>>11553914
>tfw have dark circles
I know it's from all the screen time and poor sleeping routine. I'd rather not have them, but I'll deal with them for now, might disappear once I move out and force myself to get a job.

>>11553671
>tfw when neverending spots ruin your otherwise pretty solid facial aesthetics.

So close but always so far.

anyone with oily skin care to share their routine?

>>11554780
Dude, they may never go away (see section on this in OP's post).
I wasted my time getting healthy and fit,
Spending tons on creams gels, treatments, etc.

Just find a concealer that works for you.
Yes - make-up.
The same shit 99.9% of celebs movie stars etc use.
There's probably about 5 celebrities in the whole world who actually have good skin.
The rest just have good makeup game, or they get cosmetic surgery or spa treatments erryday...

>>11555551
It's not like I always had them, I got them mostly from my lifestyle, I expect them to go away once I change things around. But I do worry that it may never get better now that I think about it.

That's not really my thing, if it's permanent then I'd just deal with it, might use it on special occasions I guess.

>>11553934
I guess you failed to read the FAQ part about product ingredients

>>11555517
Breety Basic

Wash face twice a day (morning and night)

>morning
Cetaphil Cleanser
Some random Body Shop Toner
Cetaphil SPF 50 moisturiser (I usually dilute it with a drop of water since it's kinda thick)

>Night
Cetaphil cleanser
Toner
CeraVe Lotion
Clearasil acne cream (if I have anything)

And I use blotter pads throughout the day

these are great for spot removal.

Is Avene's micellar lotion any good? I've normal skin but just nicer skin. Is the 3 in 1 prospect a scam?

Who /epiduo/ here? I'm a little over two months in and it seems to be working well enough. Still experiencing some purging tho

What's a really good, industrial strength skin cream that's not too expensive?

if you don't already know this, WEAR SUNSCREEN EVERY SINGLE DAY. It is the most important and best thing you can do to protect yourself from skin aging. Sunlight slowly but permanently damages your skin every time you encounter it and it is irreversible.

are y'all really afraid of wearing makeup....... fucking fragile masculinity lmao

Everyone says to wear sunscreen but desu wouldn't sunscreen just break you out even more since it clogs your pores

Shower at the end or beginning of the day?

>>11556472
The Nivea cream that comes in the small round disk
>>11556648
Get one designed for your face senpai. Preferably one that is non-comedogenic. If you ahve sensitive skin try to avoid mineral sunscreens

>>11553671
>nofap

>>11556653
both but your gonna be really dry use moisturizing shampoo and lotion, if I had to pick one I would say before you sleep, so your pillows and sheets don't get dirty and end up getting shit on your face/body

>>11556695
>not reading the sticky

>>11556648
Some sunscreens do cause breakouts. But the good ones don't

>>11555551
Celebrities can afford lots of laser treatments and you can fix a lot with lasers. Fuck, I wish I was rich.

>>11556307
I think people mostly use micellar water as a make-up remover before their cleanser. I wouldn't leave it on desu.

>>11556338
What's that?

>>11556472
What's your skin type? The FAQ has some recommendations.

>>11556514
+1

>>11556522
Tbh it looks really obvious and bad on men a lot of the time. Also, I'm a girl but I still want nice skin under my make-up.

>>11556648
That's why you buy a non-comedogenic one.

>>11556653
If you only shower once, at the end of the day.

>>11556707
>>11557356

That's what I was thinking. Would reduce the need to wash/change my pillow covers as often and I would be wallowing in less of my filth for my sleeping period.

What's this, probably from walking outside all day yesterday. It was overcast and I wore a raincoat most of the time, but didn't wear sunscreen so could be that? It's just on my arms, stops on the shoulders and wrists.

What's this, probably from walking outside all day yesterday. It was overcast and I wore a raincoat most of the time, but didn't wear sunscreen so could be that? It's just on my arms, stops on the shoulders and wrists.

>>11558241
Better image without hairs. It's a bit itchy and sore when I touch it but not the most obvious so I didn't notice until now.

Any toner recommendations?

>>11558280
Smallpox.

>>11553671
guys just cut out all processed sugar, even keep the sugars you get from fruit to a minimum (there are a lot of fruits out there less than 5 g sugar).

all my skin problems went away when I started eating more protein and fat, and i got my carbs from veg/low sugar fruit. i was eatin the white bread and pasta like nuts though, using sugary coffee creamer and pastries, etc.

Hey, so I was wondering if any of you do skin lightening treatments? I'm trying to start somewhere but Google is being difficult.

>>11558844
I have pretty bad face issues, even eating very little sugar (no cakes, candy, sugar in tea, a bit of sugary fruits like nectarines, etc). It's a good general tip but it doesn't magically make everything go away for everyone.

idk where to ask this

HOW DO I GET RID OF WARTS??

I got one on my finger and idk how to get it away

can I get it frozen by a doctor for free here in the UK?

thanks guys

>>11559011
just get a bottle of tea tree oil

>>11558844
confused. you were eating white bread and pasta, using sugary coffee creamer and pastries, and your acne went away?

>>11559011
Doctors can freeze it off, but that's costly. You can put duct tape on it and if you change the tape every day, it'll go away on its own in two weeks.

>>11559018
Diet varies for different people, not everyone can sustain that, unless his original post has a type and that was a comparison and not a statement.

>>11559011
2nding the duct tape treatment

it's been tested scientifically, too.

will pull studies if asked.

acetic acid treatment also works, but it's worse in exactly three different ways.

>>11558865
Did a writeup on this a while ago. It just werks.

---
Preventing the production of melanin (dark pigment):
- Be a NEET and cover your windows to prevent both UVA and UVB from reaching you
- Go full Yohji Yamamoto. Cover your skin to protect it from the sun. Use a sunhat.
- Use a +50 SPF sunscreen on face/hands if you ever leave the house.
- Buy a +2% hydroquinone solution online and apply it as per directions.

For removing already existing pigment:
- Use salicylic acid/lactic acid/glycolic acid peels at somewhat low percentages.
- Start applying topical niacinamide products as per directions.

If you're excessively naturally melanin-augmented from birth, then you need to use a pulsed dye laser - repeatedly, everywhere.

In any case, see a derm.

---

good luck

my cheeks are red 24/7 wat do

>>11559296
See a doc and check for rosacea

>>11559011
http://www.aafp.org/afp/2003/0201/p614.html

any recommendations for moisturizers? have oily skin, no acne

currently using pic related but wondering if there's anything else people would recommend

any recommendations on moisturizers for oily skin? using pic related at the moment

>>11558241
Rash from the abrasiveness of the coat possibly?

This product saved my life!
Hada Labo Rohto Gokujyn Hyaluronic Acid Lotion

essentially cured my dry skin

>>11555517
Desert Essence cleanser and sunscreen in the morning, 5% benzoyl peroxide at night.

Working much better for me than the antibiotics + adapalene (lol) I was prescribed earlier this year for moderate/severe acne.

>>11559973
Forgot to add, Indian Healing Clay with apple cider vinegar once a week after showering.

>>11553671
my routine that cleared up my acne I'm a 19 year old male with combination skin and small pores
morning,
>cleanse with Lush Dark Angels
>rinse and dry
>Tone with lush tea tree water toner
>Murad rapid age Serum (for lightening acne scars and clearing red spots)
>Moisturize With Lush vanishing cream
>first aid beauty detox eye roller for dark circles

Night
>Cleanse with Dark Angels
>Tone With tea tree water toner
>Mask 1 Lush cosmetic warrior/catastrophe cosmetic
>rinse and dry
>Mask 2 Lush sacred truth
>Tone
>moisturize with Shea moisture flax seed oil
>burts bees eye cream

>>11559992
acne execution

anyone tried Aesop Facial wash ?
i'm going to use it anyway because the bottle is gorgeous but i'd still like to know

>>11559836
This is the only thing that didn't break me out and didn't make my face oilier than it normally is.

>>11560163
overly scented, rough for your skin and overpriced, sign me up

>>11559836
I like Cerave PM. Doesn't leave me greasy or break me out, although I've heard of other people with oily skin having trouble with it.
Dr. Lin's hydrating gel was also decent. It's a gel so it's not likely to make you greasy. Probably worth looking into gels in general if creams/lotions don't cut it

>>11560252
>>11560324
I'll try them out, picked up a small bottle of CeraVe to see how it goes

Switching products isn't a concern, it's rare for me to break out. I just want to reduce the oil and get rid of the stubborn blackheads on my nose.

>>11560509
Nose blackheads are often actually sebaceous filaments
They're pretty normal to have but they vary from person to person and can look blackhead-like
Not a whole lot you can do about them, they'll fill right back up if you squeeze them out but BHA exfoliates might reduce the appearance. pic related is an affordable one

I've also heard that massaging with mineral oil helps but I don't have any experience with it personally

>>11560577
I picked up a pack of those as well

thanks for the advice

Random Questions:

What's does /fa/ recommend more: CeraVe foaming cleanser or Cetaphil Daily Cleanser?

Also, what's a better sunscreen for AM use: CeraVe AM SPF 30 or Cetaphil oil control SPF 30? I'm currently using CeraVe Lotion for PM/body use and Stridex

Is there even a big difference between the options?

/fa/, I know to use sunscreen in the day, but what's better for PM use: A lotion or a cream? I don't really know the difference

Can't decide between CeraVe cream or CeraVe lotion before bed. For reference, I mostly have oily skin.

>>11558844
People need to find what foods trigger them, some its dairy. If your skin is only getting marginally better with a skin care routine, then play around with your diet and see what happens.

>>11559011
Just go to the GP, they'll either freeze it or give you some acid solution stuff.
>>11559026
>Doctors can freeze it off, but that's costly.
Not in the UK :^)

>>11560577
>>11560581
Don't start using these every day to start with, they're pretty rough and irritant.

>>11560621
/r/sCa love the foaming cleanser, but from what I've seen a lot of CeraVe products, and Cetaphil for that matter, break people out. I would start with the foaming cleanser, and see how you get on with it. If it breaks you out then try something else.

is there any hope for this? ;_;

>>11560950
>they're pretty rough and irritant.

not really. they're alcohol free and the salicylic acid in them acts anti inflammatory. it's hailed for not being too drying. many prefer them to other products containing salicylic acid that are also heavy on alcohol... they work for most people who don't have sensitive skin.. some even use it two to three times a day...

How do I go about bleaching my skin?

whats a solid but cheap exfoliater for blackheads, my skin is decent but I got loads of blackheads around my mouth. Im looking for something under 25 euros

Also, how do I get rid of redness around and on my nose (it isnt sunburn)

>>11561793
Look for something with a chemical exfoliant such as salicylic acid in it.

>>11560889
A cream is more heavier than a lotion, thus more moisturizing, I think. It would make sense to use the heavier one at night.

>>11561793
see
>>11560577

>>11560950
used the pads last night and this morning, did feel some tingling but it went away after a few seconds

so far, no complaints about them

>>11561781
That just looks like different lighting but >>11559274

>>11561833
>>11562228
thanks family

>>11560577
dang these arent available in the Netherlands

How is this for an exfoliant?

>>11562782
same as the standard toner (like in OP), just as a gel
not that much different from other 2% BHA products, just more expensive because its paulas choice

>>11562879
I ordered a sample for 60 cents
I'll see if it works for me

>>11561050
Yes, there's some hope.

Moisturize with this to remove scars, might make you break out more sometimes:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000052YM7/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Use on blemishes at night or during the day if you're comfortable wearing sunscreen over it. It's just BP

https://www.amazon.com/Acnefree-Treatments-Terminator-Maximum-Strength/dp/B0014VTOAQ/ref=sr_1_1_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1469663454&sr=8-1&keywords=terminator+10

my sunscreen
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LA6QEOE/ref=nav_timeline_asin?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

I also use a clinique toner with alcohol because my face drips oil.

So I've started to take cold showers, in the evening. I only use a moisturizer, PM as well, for products. Should I apply it after showering, or should I wash my face with warm water after showering to open up pores etc.? If I get a face wash, should I use it in the shower or after? Also same questions for hot showers actually, since outside of summer my house has a shitty shower going from hot to very hot so I can't take cold showers.

>>11563271
thanks! that helps a lot

I get dry skin. I scab because of it. I don't put any makeup on top of it because I know it needs to breath and heal.

I need to know what lotions and face cleansers you recommend.

>>11564403
>huuuuuuu i'm a woman i can't read the guides spoonfeed me

>>11564403
check the sticky

what are some natural stuff i can use and add to my routine my face to reduce black points and some non inflameted acne?

Quick question:

Do you exfoliate before the cleanser (1st step), or after?

The sticky says 2nd, but some dermatologists say first to "prime" the skin for the cleanser by exfoliating first

>>11566301
After cleanser, before moisturizer

******TOP TIP******

If you've just popped a spot, put cut a square out a blister plaster and put it on the spot overnight. The plaster sucks up all the blood and pus and the spot itself will be more or less flat (Depending on size). Seriously, one of the best things I've done in combatting acne.

>>11566385
Is blister plaster pic related? What do you use?

>>11566301
there's some confusion about the different terms that complicates things a bit.

people can refer to exfoliating toners by saying 'exfoliators', but they can also refer to an a scrub or clay mask.

most exfoliating toners are meant to be left on the skin to allow their active ingredients to act on, and in, the skin. they're therefore almost never washed off, and should therefore almost always be used after a cleanser/scrub/clay mask.

scrubs and clay masks also exfoliate the skin, but in a more mechanical way. they physically remove dead skin and some oils from the skin surface, whereas ordinary not-that-exfoliating cleansers removes dirt, oils, some microorganisms, and a minor amount of dead skin.

since cleansers really can't do that much of a difference on recently-exfoliated clean skin (since what it's good at removing is mostly gone), it would seem like it's not needed to use a cleanser after using a mechanical exfoliator. it's also generally a good thing to not expose exfoliated skin (thinner, more sensitive, more easily dried) for the detergents in the cleanser, as this makes it more prone to irritation.

if you instead clean your skin before you use a mechanical exfoliator, you will keep the excess dirt/oils/some microorganisms from getting mashed into the skin during the later physical exfoliation process/scrubbing - as small wounds are often created and the skin becomes thinner and more sensitive in general.

but, uhh, in general: you'll be fine.
if I'm exfoliating my skin using a scrub/clay mask, I go a bit easier on the cleansing in order to not dry my skin out too much. most mechanical exfoliators are 'cleansing' in the same way as cleansers (but more exfoliating), so you actually don't need both at the same time, but it definitely seems beneficial to clean the skin before physically exfoliating.

had a cyst come up on my face a month ago, has left a massive weird red lump scar thing

wat do

>>11566469
TL;DR:
1. cleanser (no scrub)
(2. cleansing/exfoliating scrub or clay mask.)
3. exfoliating toner

note that you generally shouldn't use scrubs/clay masks on a daily basis. also, your skin might not like you for exfoliating it in many different ways during the same routine (or day). if it doesn't like what you're doing, it'll let you know.

What body soap/cleanser is good for sensitive skin?

>>11553989
Dermaroller for scars

How often should I use the Indian clay mask? Also is steaming face at home a viable way to clean clogged pores?

How do I get lighter looking skin? I used to be light as a kid but got dark af. I use sunscreen everyday.

>>11553671
Ok what is this /fa/ and how do I get rid of it forever?

Any help on dealing with redness/busted blood capillaries around my nose any on my cheek on my cheek?

Not as bad as the guy in the pic but getting there.....

>>11566469
>>11566508
Thanks again, as always
Your help is under appreciated I feel.

I just started using Bi carb soda as a face mask, I already see the difference and i've used it once, should I also use it in the morning? (I also put on moisturizer after it)

>>11556653
both but always before bed. why would you want to sleep in your day's filth?

>>11558734
Thayers Witch Hazel

>>11560163
don't waste money on overpriced cleansers. anything that goes down the drain shouldn't be an investment. if you want to cleanse better invest in a clarisonic

>>11566903
Anyone?

Guys I like fucking nuke my skin with shit but I still get acne and some of the deep cystic kind too around my neck
Morning/night
10% benzoyl wash
Which hazel toner
10% Aha lotion
Spot lightener

Aztec clay 1x a week

Wat do my face is like a nuclear wasteland right?
Just went to doctor other day to get prescribed an antibiotic
Have tried oral acne meds in the past none really worked that well
Don't want to fux with Accutane, not worth it for me

>>11566469
Welp I fell for that shit meme on Tuxbell. "EXFOLIATE THEN CLEANSE" never did seem to make much sense. The sticky desperately needs a site-wide cleanup tbqf.

>>11566903
Looks like you shaved recently, could just be razor burn, and that spot might be an ingrown hair.

What do you sensitive-skinned folks use when you shave? I've been using Art of Shaving stuff up until recently and I want to learn about better alternatives.

>>11567446
>not worth it for me

Just get started on a really low dose. Then go off it if you get too harsh sides. It really doesn't seem like you have a choice if you want good skin. I think the only thing left for you to try is Duac or Retin-A, before Accutane.

most people I know who used it wished they would have started sooner

>>11553671
Started using a dermaroller last night AMA

>>11568123
did it hurt?
have you seen any difference yet?

anyone tried biore sunscreen? is it really that great?

I've given Benzoyl Peroxide enough time but I don't think it works for me.
I think I'm literally out of options. The only thing I haven't tried is laser, but since my acne is cystic I don't know if laser will help.
I've had multiple courses of accutane, which has worked temporarily, but it just keeps coming back.

>>11568638
Try Aztec masks and strong AHA, like 10%

What do I do if my cuts don't heal? I apply neosporin often but they don't seem to want to heal.

what is a good toner/exfoliating toner

>>11567079
Doesn't the sticky encourage products with chemicals over the all natural? I know those guys make a good aftershave.

The only problem I have are acne marks/spots. They aren't seen depending on the lighting but when they are it pisses me off.

What is this? If I peel it off it's just dry clumps of something. Under it is smooth skin. Should I worry or how the hell do I remove it?

>>11568940
All products consist of chemicals.
"Natural" products just have a more uncontrolled mix of them than most other stuff

I'm 24 and still have some problems with acne. I just got back from spending a week in Greece and my skin broke out like shit from all the sun for the first couple of days, but now it looks better than it's ever done it the last 10 years.

Good moisturizer? Worth a cop?

Here's the ULTIMATE!!!!!!! guide to skincare.
step1: wear sunscreen everyday you go outside
Step2: use moisturizer
Step3: if you still have any problems with your skin, make an appointment with your dermatologist, the internet won't be able to help you

how long does a bottle of OST C20 usually last?

Is the Effaclar a good cleanser?

>>11570044
prob 2-3 months not because of its contents, but since it's highly prone to oxidizing.

>>11569752
I use the CeRave moisturizer. It doesn't smell or anything like that. I found that Clean and Clear shit made my skin oily. I've been happiest using the foaming cerave cleanser and the moisturizer. Occasionally I use stridex pads but besides that I'm pretty happy with how my skin looks.

What should I use as a carrier for tea tree oil for spot treatment?

>>11553671
Is there a limit to how many courses of accutane you should take? It works for me, but never permanently. The acne just keeps coming back.

I've never tried the weaker 10mg dose however, perhaps that's worth a shot.

Does anybody else use sleeping packs? I love this one because it makes my skin silky and smells really nice.

Jesus christ help me /fa/. I had horrible acne most of my life but the acne.org regimen started clearing it up pretty well aside from a few marks. I started in November 2015 and it was going well untill around june. I've been getting breakouts despite the regimen and I'm going back to my ugly acne filled face. Why did it stop working? What should I do?

>>11571427
Accutane

>>11570145
decent but overpriced. you're better off using cetaphil or some shit since they're all just cleansers.

can some1 rec a patrician bodywash w/o a huge fragrance? Tired of aveeno and dove bars are noxious.

>daily use of vitamin c serum/niacimide for 4 months already
>STILL have PIH and skin is STILL shit

>>11571630
are you sure of that it's PIH and not PIE?

anyways, see a derm and laser that shit

keep it under sunscreen until then

>>11571630
>>11571671

>>11571678

It's PIH. I'm asian.

>>11571679
>more visible, but not necessarily less common

can still happen senpai

I don't know where to ask this. How do I go about making my jawline stronger.

>>11571720
Put a coathanger in your mouth
Tie a weight to it
Make chewing motions

>>11571720
Chew gum

A couple of hours of chewing will probably make your jaw sore, and that leads to muscle buildup. Same concept as lifting or w/e

>>11571738
>>11571762
Thanks lads.
So for how long would I be doing this before I see results?
I'm not saying I would turn in to Young Leo tier Jaw but it should be developed well in 2-3 months right?

>>11571786
Probably

Photograph your jaw at the end of each week if you're really curious how long it will take.

How does sunscreen affect tanning?

My skin always looks bumpy. I wash and moisturize every shower but lord nothing helps.

>>11571879
What moisturizer are you using? Something in it might be clogging your pores.

Fuck this fucking country. I can not find 2% BHA salicylic acid exfoliant. Closest thing I found is in the picture. It says cleanse, I don't really know what it means.

Can this be a replacement for exfoliant?

https://youtu.be/r6gMGuQRZPE

>white "people"

Christ you people are pathetic.

Ever wonder how soldiers have clear skin despite only showering once a day and being out on the sun all day? They have a balanced diet full of nutrients, Vitamins A,B,C,D and they never have to use retarded 'skincare products' that really just build up toxins in your spores.

I have never used a single skin product and my skin is healthy and glowing. But then again I eat fruits on a day to day basis and not just stay inside crying about shitty complexion after smoking a cigarette lol

>>11572456

balanced diet won't protect you from the sun, whitey. soldiers have clear but spotty and damaged skin.

>>11572483
right but compare the anemic anorexic smokers here to someone who gets proper nutrition.

Its a no brainer really, but unfortunately some people take being '/fa/' seriously

Bought this, what should I expect?

What can I do to remove dark stretch marks that I've had on my bottom since 5th grade?

>>11567446
not ready to start accutane? not ready to get good skin then lol

>>11572508
I don't have much experience with masks, but it's quite strong and extremely effective. I wouldn't leave it on for extremely long - once it dries, it's quite unpleasant. One of my exes hated it because it was overwhelmingly strong for her delicate skin, so if you have delicate skin as well, it may be over-the-top.

What kind of diets do you guys have? Really, I hate these fucking red marks and it makes me buttmad.

>>11567578
Wet DE stuff is supposed to do you favors
>>11572502
You're a clown.

What sort of pads should I be applying toner and junk with, any suggestions?

Also, if I'm using this >>11572508 when is it applied and does it replace a part of my routine?

>>11572456
>balanced diet full of nutrients

Sadly that costs more effort than just smearing some skincare across your face

>>11572923
same people have used the same argument but will have no problem buying a pack of cigs a day lol

fruits are cheap, especially nutritrious ones like oranges, watermelon and avocados. Its really just up to the person not being a complete retard and realizing the key to a healthy skin is proper diet and nutrition and not smoking lol

>>11572950
Smoking is retarded anyway

>>11571962
what country?

>>11572508
Skin felt smoother and had less clogged pores from using this. Coupled with BHA and AHA in my routine, it really helped my skin texture. I noticed better results when I left it on for 30 minutes, it can feel tight and hurt a bit though.

>>11572842
In general I'm trying to stay on a calorie deficit diet to get fit. So cutting out the junk and eating more wholesome healthier food, which is obviously better for your skin and overall health.

>>11566954
you're very welcome.
hope it helped.

>>11572456
I think you would benefit from reading the sticky part on diet, the limitations of dietary invervention, anecdotal evidence, the individual differences in skincare needs, the impact of tobacco use on acne, as well as the empirical evidence for the effiacy of various skincare products and common ingredients

>>11573913
fuck yeah. that's how it's supposed to work.

>>11566954
you're very welcome.
hope it helped.

>>11572456
I think you would benefit from reading the sticky part on diet, the limitations of dietary invervention, anecdotal evidence, the individual differences in skincare needs, the impact of tobacco use on acne, as well as the empirical evidence for the efficacy of various skincare products and common ingredients

>>11573913
fuck yeah. that's how it's supposed to work.

>>11566954
you're very welcome.
hope it helped.

>>11572456
I think you would benefit from reading the sticky part on diet, the limitations of dietary invervention, anecdotal evidence, the individual differences in skincare needs, the impact of tobacco use on acne, as well as the empirical evidence for the efficacy of various skincare products and common ingredients

>>11573913
fuck yeah. that's how it's supposed to work.

What's the verdict?

>>11572456
Why the fuck are you under the impression soldiers have good diets?

Is the only way to treat deep scars (the ones that actually are like little holes) laser treatment? I'd prefer not to spend that much especially since im still on accutane and ill probably get a lot more in the process

anyone have experience with collagen peptide supplements for wrinkles?

>>11573898
State of failed coup

How do Koreans have such flawless, pale white skin? And don't tell me makeup, I've seen their lower body and without makeup, their skin is literally porcelain.

Are there any special products or routine I can do?

>>11575402
5-12k surgery

>>11556338
yes, im here

ive been on it and doxycycline on and off for the past 2 years. my face is pretty bad at the moment, probably going to get back on them

it doesnt seem like using either of them has made great improvement

>>11575402
>you cant put makeup anywhere else but your face
kill yourself weebtard

>>11575402
its literally actually just more makeup

you realize people have skin on other places than their faces right

>>11574509
I used to live beside an army base my dad would bring home some of his army buddies and they'd eat good nutritious food. One of them even took my kitkat bar and told me he'd let me have it back if I ate the vegetable soup mom made.

>>11575402
>koreans

Jesus christ, anon, get a grip

Ordinary koreans are nowhere near the K-pop idols you posted a picture of and seem to be referring to. They have been selected for their looks, and tens of thousands of dollars are spent on enhancing and maintaining it through surgeries, dermatology, skincare products, makeup, photoshop...

>>11574204
lmao @ this

/fa/ is literally the only place where retards would recommend chemicals and external product before getting proper vitamins and minerals.

>>11575524

I go to Korean hair salons pretty often and all the girls there could be k-pop idols desu.

>>11572508
It starts hurting like hell after 10 minutes (if you mix it with apple cider vinegar) so don't leave it on too long.

>>11572885
>What sort of pads should I be applying toner and junk with, any suggestions?
Normal cotton pads?

>Also, if I'm using this >>11572508 when is it applied and does it replace a part of my routine?
Whenever you feel like it, every two days or once a month, after cleansing. No, it's an addition to your routine.

>>11574773
It should be obvious that you can't treat deep scars with topical treatments. Go to a dermatologist and ask about Fraxel.

>>11575402
You should watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qvN_Gi1kNE
They put a lot of time, effort and money into beauty.

>>11553671
Has anyone been to a dermatologist?
I want to go to one so he can see my skin type, I have mild acne that won't go away no matter how much I cleanse and exlfoliate. Is it worth it to go?

>>11572456
>No soldier has ever had hormonal acne. Ever. FACT

>>11575526
then you, too, would benefit from reading up about to what extent diet impacts acne. check the sticky, for example, and various meta-studies on the topic. because you currently seem to know less than you think you know about these things.

>>11572456
yes i have a balanced diet too, almost no sugar, no meat, usually vegetables with grains and cheese, drink only plain water, tee and coffee
I take vitamin D3 and omega-3 everyday, along with calcium
i wash my face at least once everyday
and still my skin just broke out once again, resulted in 5 acne-pieces

i think my skin is finally starting to stabilize (at age 22). it's never been terribly bad, but it hasn't been crystal clear. it's been stable for some time now, which is good. i now have to deal with mild PIH. my routine is this,

>morning
Cetaphil Bar Soap
Herbal Choice Mari SPF Face & Body Butter SPF 30 Unscented Moisturizer

>night
Cetaphil Bar Soap
Paula's Choice BHA 2%

wondering if there's anything better that might aid in PIH, that's NOT hydroquinone

>>11576359
>grains and cheese
>no meat

i have a hypothesis that it's not meat, but grains and cheese.

>>11576801
grains and cheese are like the basic food
what else to eat then
only fruits and vegetables?

>>11576811
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/definitive-guide-grains/

what's wrong with meat?

lean meats, (low GI) fruits, vegetables, nuts

>>11572456
Im in the US Army.

>soldiers have perfect skin
Many people in my unit have cystic acne and people ALWAYS talk about breaking out when they are in the field or on deployment.
>balanced diet
Confirmed for knowing absolute FUCK ALL about thid topic. Soldiers eat total garbage. We are fed MREs (Meal Ready to Eat) that contain enough preservatives to last decades, empty carbs and have bullshit like candy and cakes/cookies. The majority of people in the military also drink a shit ton of monster energy drinks and other literal garbage beverages.

>>11577031
yes im sure my uncle and his friends at camp pendleton are applying derma-care skin cream everyday

Nah theyre just not retarded mindless drones like you and theyre actually officers with a brain

lol

>>11577043
Some people have naturally perfect skin. I understand that. Thats fine, it doesnt mean that everyone is that way.

>>11577043
>yes im sure my uncle and his friends at camp pendleton are applying derma-care skin cream everyday
And KY Jelly to their anuses every night :^)

>>11568772
if cuts are too deep they could take years to fade completely

>>11577043

Camp Pendelton is Disneyland compared to the realities you face when deployed.

>>11572950
assuming that everyone here smokes? it's almost like people all over the world have different types of skin anon. diet will def help out but there are luckier people that eat shit at fast food chains nearly everyday but still have relatively good skin

>>11577043
Because your uncle and his friends' skin applies to everyone else in the army, lmaoo ok.

I already accepted the fact that my skin will never ever be normal again. Is there anything I could do besides kill myself?

>>11553671
Neutrogena Oil Free Acne Wash
Cold water
Coffee, face and hands
voila

Has anyone here tried this? Is it good?

>>11577686
go to a dermatologist

Anyone here do the 10-step Korean skincare routine?

>>11577686
Get laser removal I have the same thing you do mine are just really deep and I might need to get fillings in them after

>>11560509
recommend cerave PM and their hydrating cleanser, my horrible oily skin has been great ever since i started using those two. seems counterintuitive to moisturize oily skin but it works wonders

I just now ordered some aztec healing clay. Any tips? Should I dilute the apple cider vinegar for mixing or should I just use water?

>>11578451
Yes. I do an adapted version which includes american brands as well. A lot of the principles behind the routine are very helpful (double-cleansing, serums, layering in the right order)

>>11576781
niacinamide is good gentle option. Vit c as well. also AHAs like glycolic and lactic acid. BHAs go deeper in the skin to treat acne, not really helpful for PIH.

>>11576175
If you have the funds, definitely go to a derm. they can prescribe shit that will be more effective.

>>11574448
I've heard rave reviews about this product, I tried it and wasn't really impressed. It'd be good if you need a lot of hydration I guess but I usually just opt for a lighter cream with more snail in it. Depends what you want to use it for.

>>11571962
If it's a cleanser it'll prob sit on your face for a shorter amount of time, and thus less benefits of the BHA.

>>11577696
>Coffee, face and hands
interesting. how do you like the coffee scrub?

tell me about your experience with pic related

>>11578550
I'm using their Aloe Proplis gel atm and I like it, but I've heard it's too light to be used as a standalone moisturizer.

I have dry/acne-prone skin, for what it's worth.

Washing my face twice daily. Morning and night, I wash my face without a washcloth, use Neutrogena Oil-Free Acne Wash, Acne.org's BP, gently pat dry. Still having breakouts regularly. Using the Indian Healing Clay facial once per week as well. Nothing. What the fuck.

>>11578645
Yeah it would def be a better moisturizer than the aloe gel. I have oily skin so it was a bit too much for me but it does sink into the skin quickly and feels nourishing. The snail in it might help w the acne too.

>>11578660
You're the man. Thanks so much for your help!

>>11556514
>allergic to literally ever sunscreen I have ever tried
>got a huge burn on my face and neck

fug someone help plz

>>11578664
haha ofc. good luck!

>>11578676
Do you know if there are any specific ingredients that you are allergic to? What products have you tried?
Worst comes to worst, invest in some hats and UV protective clothing.

>>11578684
What would you recommend for spot treating pimples, if you don't mind me asking?

>>11578708
haha okay get ready for my fucking essay:

-highest concentration of salicylic acid or benzoyl peroxide you can get. The ones I use are by clean & clear, can be easily found at any pharmacy. Those are the easiest and most tried&true way.

-Another great option is acne stickers, generally from asian brands (cosrx, apieu). Korean people will wear them out during the day, theyre little clear stickers with medication on them. I wear them at night and for certain types of pimples they can help a lot.

-It also depends on the type of pimple, like a whitehead vs cystic. With whiteheads, I use the above mentioned spot treatments until they come to a head. Then I pop them at night with clean hands and put a hydrocolloid over to suck out the rest of the pus and allow it to heal, has been working well recently. Cystic is a lot harder to treat, the best thing to do is to try and stop the inflammation with similar products.

hello /fa/ so I've had shitty skin all my life and I was wondering what would be the best cleanser for dry and sensitive skin?? A month ago I decided to try St Ives apricot cleanser (cheap shit I know) and it was a fucking miracle. 2 weeks later of use and my skin was clear and fucking amazing, never so before! This is coming from a guy who has tried nearly EVERYTHING! Antibiotics, cortisone even Accutane, and all my problems were fixed a fucking 5$ cleanser. I was retarded enough to go back outside without sunscreen and my skin is back to shitty usual. Plus that cleanser (used it all up) isn't even sold in any of my local stores anymore. So what would be the best cleanser for sensitive and dry skins? Exfoliants and scrubs ruin my skin. Moisturizing doesn't do shit. I live in Canada btw

>>11578749
Ever had any experience with Tea Tree Oil as a means for fighting pimples?

>>11578834
I was about to mention it! When I first got into skincare I bought out the whole tea tree oil line at the body shop. Had a little vial of the oil for spot treatments too.
Personally, they don't have as dramatic of an effect as salicylic acid, but I think they do help. I prefer using it as a preventative measure. The Apieu stickers I mentioned have tea tree oil as one of their main ingredients.

>>11578676
try one without chemical sunblockers
just use physical ones like titanium or zinc

>>11578749

>>11578540
vinegar

>>11578540
the amazon page for it has a great guide in the reviews section

>>11578867
You are now, and will forever be, my nigga. My sincerest gratitude.

>>11578550
topical niacinamide/vit c? or oral?
and hmm, i was using the BHA to stop/prevent any breakouts. but since my skin has stabilized, i may be able to transition to an AHA. any specific recommendation?

So what aspect of the Cleanser, Toner, Moisturiser routinise gets rid of acne scars? I've been on it for a month now and they're going down pretty well from what I can tell

>>11572456
I hate to say it, but this anon is right. I have cystic acne and pretty bad scars on my face. After reading this post I said what do I have to lose and started getting the daily recommended value of food groups(I got the info from myplate.gov). It did not do much for my existing acne, but in 2 days all of my scars that have been there for a year or two are barley visible. This anons science isn't right, but try the method hes promoting, what do you have to lose?

>>11572456
Read American Psycho pal

reminder that 87% of UV rays get through clouds

that is: If you are fair skinned, 10 minutes of direct sunlight a day can be increased to 11 minutes with cloud cover

Any way to stop razor irritation my neck?

I've switched to a DE razor and do it very very slowly but I can't seem to not fuck my shit up. The hair surrounding my adam's apple seems to grow in a different direction to the rest of the hair on my neck, is this a normal thing?

>>11580768
reminder that UVA is the one leading to photo-aging.

that is: the one where the FDA doesn't approve any modern filters like tinosorb s/m, so you are stuck with bad sunscreen with a max rating of PPD 10, while the rest o the world has ones with ratings 5x as good.

so for fair skinned that get burned after 10 mins, that's only 100 mins exposure even with the best sunscreen you can buy in the US.

>>11580890
I'm a bit lost on this one, are you advocating laying in the sun for UV exposure? Or addressing problems about Sunscreen?

>>11580890

Should I be going to a Korean/Japanese sunscreen then? I have some Elta MD stuff right now.

>>11580904
that sunscreen in the US is shit and it's best to avoid as much sun as possible.

>>11580910
European sunscreen like BIODERMA Photoderm Max Creme SPF 50+ is best.
but beware of European ones that are sold worldwide and thus adhere to FDA rules.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ox8rBmuZwJ8inTiwuRfOPxyXBGStkWYUg3lDKHu3U8g

>>11580921
but aren't tans supposed to be attractive?

>>11580937
>Implying /fa/ isn't full of pale assed skinny caspar teenagers

Tans look even better on /fit/ people.

>>11580944
I am a pale ass motherfucker and I find that I find myself more appealing after having been in the sun for a while. maybe it's just my unfamiliarity with the change that occurs, I think I'm pretty ugly otherwise

>>11580937
tans are really fucking attractive

>>11580937
it's like with tattoos. look good at the time but won't age well.
you want to look like a handbag when you get older? is Robert Redford still attractive?

>>11572456
>pop tarts and rip its

>>11579109
im honored

>>11579815
haha of course

>>11580151
i was talking about topical, I dont have a lot of experience w supplements for skincare.
There are some combo AHA/BHA toners and stuff out there, if you're interested. Mostly in asian skincare.

As for AHA, lactic is better for sensitive skin since it's gentler. I generally use glycolic. Strong peels are good but I've found that gentler formulas meant to be left on overnight tend to be more effective. I don't have any specific recommendations, but you can look at the skincare FAQ page, they have a few. Start out slow otherwise your skin will not be happy. And make sure wear sunscreen!! Acids make your skin more sensitive to UV rays. Be careful, good luck.