/fa/ - Fashion

how2 pull off garments with breasts on them

>>11346099
dont give a fuck

Y-3 (Older not the new shitty chinese Y-3) Parka C/N

>>11346146
No y3 is not worth it for the $$$. I have handled several pieces and owned one. Thousand dollar outerwear that has the quality of a fucking 100$ jacket. Total joke, its just adidas with yohji's name slapped on it to chare 10x more.

http://page17.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/v461079213

cant figure out this listing, is it a reversible bomber, two separate bombers, or what? Description doesnt say either way

want this graphic on the back of my bomber pretty badly

Does anyone here have an idea of how CDG boiled wool and boiled poly differ in texture? I'm thinking of copping a boiled wool shorts but idk if it would match my boiled poly blazer

>>11346155
reversible

Far Eastern Enthusiast

:100:

>>11346155
wow what a gem, god bomber

>>11346155
gorgeous desu, would cop but >those measurements

>>11346155
was gonna bid >:(

>>11346155
Your not going to win lmao

>>11347171
you're probably right, will go pretty high

>>11347165
it's attracted lots of attention anyway, me asking a question about it wont make any difference

>>11346099
buy it and wear it in public until you stop caring :^)

w2c qt yohji gf?

Does anyone here know how Taichi Murakami pants fit? I wear a 46 and I need to know if I need to go up to a 48.

>>11348148
iirc they fit tts from what i've read and you just need to get used to how the brand cuts their pants. you better ask sz though to be sure as i've never tried one

>>11346832
these are sick

does yohji weave a light garbadine? like some pants for the summer?

thoughts on soloist stuff? I'm worried it'll look a bit costumey but some people on styleforum wear it really well

>>11346215
different mats
they would look find paired together
boiled wool is pretty warm though

>>11348836
hmmm i thought poly would be warmer. thanks senpai!

yes obviously yohji does light garbadines

can someone put together a guide on how to buy from rakuten and Y!jp as well as reputable seller?

would be great for the sticky

>>11348806
if you dont want their more out there pieces, get the pajama stuff. they look unique but somewhat understated. some of them have great prints and patterns too. their stuff is top notch quality too

>>11349064
just google it m8. there's tons of proxy services you can use and guides for the best one

>>11348750
my wool gab pants are pretty light ones

saving up for these. I think they'll go great with yohji since it'll be all the shapes will be exaggerated

>>11349158
wew lad just buy his regular platform shoes. this one is too rachet

>>11349203
>>11349158
They look fine mate, the upper is a bit clean but I reckon pebble grain and exaggerated sole balances it out.

what pants should i get for the japanese comfycore aesthetic?

>>11349456
pleated wool gab trousers

why is every Foot the Coacher product so nice, bros

I'm too poor at the moment want to cop this too http://page12.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/p511347025

>>11349456
http://category.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/list/%E7%94%B7%E6%80%A7%E7%94%A8-Y%E2%80%99s-%E3%83%A8%E3%82%A6%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A4%E3%83%9E%E3%83%A2%E3%83%88-%E3%82%8F-%E3%83%96%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%83%89%E5%88%A5-%E3%83%95%E3%82%A1%E3%83%83%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3-%E3%82%AA%E3%83%BC%E3%82%AF%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3/2084050669/?p=&tab_ex=commerce&select=22&slider=0
Look through this to find some good yohji pants. イージーパンツ for "easy pants" or ギャバ for wool gabardine.

>>11349431
yeah. I've seen great fits with chunky soled fits with yohji. Wanted raf x doc martin for the same reason.

>>11349591

>>11349591
I toyed with the idea of copping that coat too but probably wont, and those chunky shoes look good btw

>>11349531
do you own any? wanted to kop a pair of the asymmetrical sneakers

>>11349594
DOUBLE REPPUKEN

YYPH AW16 when?

post your grails. this jacket from cdgh+ fw13 is my current grail.

>>11349659
you mean when it hits stores?

>>11349591
damn thats a sick jacket. wish i could pull coats off desu

>>11349158
Grenson is overpriced shit. Buy Tricker's Ilkley instead.

>>11349710
Some stores have had pre-orders up for a while with delivery in August.

>>11349070
W2c everything

>>11349811
soloist

>>11349828
I've trouble finding the blazer

>>11349801
thanks for the heads up definitely
look into this.

>>11349710
sometimes I find cdgh to be unwearable but I really like that jacket.

>>11349851
probably out of season. it's been and sold on grailed twice now. look for soloist pajama jacket

aw08 yyph outwear love. only seen this once on ebay couple years ago. current grail piece

bump

NEED more yen

>>11346155
Ended at 72k yen, probably a fair price, was matching until 60ks or so. Hope it doesn't end up on God's greasy Grailed account for $2500 or something

>>11349860
some of cdgh+ can get really out of hand but their basics like the boiled poly/wool stuff are very wearable. they also have sick prints sometimes

>>11350341
does that come in a different colour?

anybody own any Sasquatchfabrix?

interested in this http://page13.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/r148093360

>>11350571
where does God find this stuff to mark up by 10000%? Is it all y!jp?

Are there any other resellers that are less rapey with their markup?

How do you guys usually consolidate your shipments? I usually buy 3-4 pieces and then ship them all together, but I'm tired of paying $90+ s/h for EMS every time. I'm wondering if shipping my light items (shirts, etc.) by small packet would be better.

>>11351405
i usually do the same with buying 3-4 pieces. the shipping of each piece to the proxy is what fucks me over though. shipping to conus is $50 for me. anyone got any hacks for this?

>>11351203
yahoo jp resellers on grailed are the absolute worst. i hope they die in a fire

Does anyone have problems with zippers for YYPH trousers? The top part always comes down for me. I'm not even a fatty.

>>11351432
>yahoo jp resellers on grailed are the absolute worst. i hope they die in a fire
I agree, but fuck if he doesn't find some frustratingly good shit. These patchwork pants are honestly grail tier imo but I dont want to buy them from a man who makes his slimy tenners from ripping off Supreme kiddies

I dont even mind as much when Trunks and Pigfuck do it because everybody knows that they're pieces of shit (to the point where they're sorta likeable when they're not just being obnoxious imo), but God seems to think that he's a passionate legitimate businessman with his gushy descriptions

>>11350341
these ones make me happy

>>11349531
wish I was 6'6 and could make packs this size work

>>11351478
hng

>>11349070

any pics of people wearing soloist and not looking like cospray?

>>11351730
from the man himself.

check out @t3sjelly and @timmmmmmmmmmmmmmmay on ig as well as the sf thread

What would /jdg/ wear this with?

https://www.grailed.com/listings/556514-White-Mountaineering-AW2010-Cotton-Moleskin-Work-Shirt

>>11351972
layer with a junya patchwork blazer then cuffed wool trousers and visvim boots

how to into yp.jp auction without basic comprehension of japanese

>>11352063
Google Chrome auto translate helped me a lot, though it can come out fairly garbled sometimes

>>11352063
what do you need help with? what designers are you looking for?

>>11351478
agreed. really bothers me when i see great shit from any of those guys, since i know how much they're marking up and stuff. i only ever put up y!jp stuff if it legitimately didn't work out for me. even then, i only expect to get back what i paid + ship/proxy

>>11351478
>>11351203
>>11351432
>i hate people making money

fuck first the communist thread then this autistic shitfest of a thread
what the fuck has happened to /fa/

>>11352553
>is a shit reseller
>resents people who are good at it

typical.

>>11352948
because people can easily buy the shit off yahoo jp for much much lower and they have the guts to sell it hella marked up all while acting like they're not ripping anyone off

back to your containment board will you

>>11353034
Am I the only one who wants to call them out on the comments section? Only thing is then they'd ask you to post source and then everyone gets access to Yj

>>11353064
make a temp account if you will do so and post it here. but then again i dont want normies buying up my comme

>>11350341
might have posted this somewhere already, but this is going to sell for 13k yen or so, cop or not? I love this stuff, this isnt my favourite piece from it but it usually ends up selling for far more than 13k

>>11351405
Not him but can I bump this? I've always just ordered a bunch of stuff in one go but idk if other ways would be cheaper

>>11353341
this one's Grail levels but >$1200

>>11353034
>Acting as if they're not ripping anyone off

You've obviously never had a conversation with any of them, no one is pretending the prices they charge aren't ridiculous but, if the market is willing to pay ridiculous prices so be it

Grailed sort of puts everything on an equal footing you have random streetwear next to the most revered designers ever and you have dumb kids just throwing offers around with 0 consistency

>>11353034
I see no problem with this. They took the risk of buying the item and shipping it so they'll get the profit.

If it pisses you off so much just beat them to buying it from y!jp

>>11351405
>$90 s/h for ems

thats how much it costs to ship from japan dude literally can't do a thing about it keep in mind you're basically paying for shipping twice
90 bucks for 4 items is like 22.5$ an item thats not actually too terrible, i think with big shipments (around 40 items) you can get it down to about 14-15 an item but, it's not going to get too much better than that

Also EMS is most reliable service by far, fedex fucks with people so much it's not worth it even if you pay 50% less sometimes, 4 business days to get my items most of the time , tracked, never pay duty on it either

>>11353034
>easily

the barrier for entry is learning how to use a proxy, which for some reason the vast majority of people interested in 2nd hand clothing can't figure out
you forget most people can't be bothered how to figure this shit out. so yeah theoretically it's easy but in practice it really isn't

there is nothing stopping you from doing the exact same thing yet for some reason you don't? because you find it morally corrupt? yet you more than likely have sold on grailed before, and whats the difference? oh you didn't make money on your sale, that makes you stupid not morally superior. you're trying to apply your arbitrary standard of what is "too much" markup to the secondhand clothes market and that's bullshit.

>back to your containment board will you
so you think a fashion board should be shit up with off topic political threads?

>>11353128
they're just going to be deleted also at any given time 25,000+ 2nd hand comme pieces normies can't be fucked to figure out proxies you think they can be fucked to dig through all that shit?

>>11353400
except these whiners can't because they're not as good at navigating yahoo japan, god is simply the best shopper, like there's nothing else to it he buys the best items for the cheapest prices and sells them for the highest prices he's just better than everyone else and these people are mad about it??

>>11353411
well my initial question was how to get on God levels of y!jp navigation >>11351203

I'm basically just annoyed by the people who buy things from him without doing research first, and thinking they're getting good prices while God is knowingly ripping them off. At least with Supreme flippers everybody including the seller knows that they're scummy, but I dont think people feel the same way about God

Also, since Grailed resellers are easily the biggest sellers on Grailed (don't mean to pick on God, he's just the biggest example), it makes me paranoid that everything on Grailed is a resell, which is why I dont really use the site anymore aside from a few specific vendors who I know wont obnoxiously overcharge

>>11353517
Jesus christ you fucking kids dont even understand how basic fucking principals of supply and demand work. LET ME BREAK IT DOWN FOR YOU. If there is LOW supply and HIGH demand then the price goes UP. In this case, highly sought after rare archival garments are in HIGH demand so if someone sees the opportunity to profit buy purchasing a commodity (FUCKING CLOTHES) and selling them from *MORE THAN WHAT THEY PAID* to make a profit... Thats basic fucking economics. Seriously. Are you going to get mad at every buisness model ever that "rips" people off? Have you ever bough a used game at Gamestop? Have you ever bought anything from any retail outlet EVER? Guess what, they paid LESS than what you bought it for! So they could make money! Fucking villains.

>>11352948
Kill yourself you fucking jew. I wish one day you will find anthrax bacteria in your fucking jap postage box.

>>11353517
why should it matter if an item on grailed is being resold, someone is reselling it on yahoo japan too, you're not buying direct from the designer lmao
oh i get it it's a pride thing, someone might have paid less than what you paid so you feel like you;ve been had, no, someone got a good deal, and then sold it for market value simple as that.

also you can't be as good as god
he's just on another level than everyone else, even the guys around him don't know how he does shit like this
https://www.grailed.com/listings/488003

but, yeah you're still applying an arbitrary standard to a market, if you don't want to use the market and instead use yahoo japan do so, no one is forcing you to buy off grailed.

>>11353563
>calls other people jews
>hates capitalism

ok there shlomo

>>11353545
>supply and demand
lol, I didn't even say otherwise

>have you ever brought a anything
zzzz I never said I had a problem with reselling inherently. I specifically said that I dont care about Supreme flippers even though they annoying. What's more annoying about a person like God isn't that they're profiting, as much as it is that they see something rare and beautiful and think 'I can make fifty bucks off this lmao'. Not villainous, just rubs me the wrong way.

Stupid never-ending argument though.

>>11353577
hi God

it's not market price. y!jp auctions are usually market price. It's just inflated westerner-price for people who dont know any better. Again, rubs me the wrong way.

>>11353590
i'm not god lmao
also then explain all the expensive pieces on yahoo japan?
the japs are allowed to sell for whatever they want but, it rubs you the wrong way when someone does it in the west? you realize the people on yahoo japan are making money off those pieces, shops like ragtag and rinkan are making money on everything they sell you know that right? but, that doesn't rub you the wrong way?

>>11350571
god didn't win it

>>11353604
>explain all the expensive pieces on yahoo japan?
They're floating there for months literaly. Reasonable priced stuff goes in a week.

>>11353584
Capitalism does not justifies your fucking jew nature. Fucks like you are just standing between the seller and the buyer, making market processes harder, you are useless fucking gaskets, a parasites, literaly producing nothing but difficulties to fair participants. Garment resellers, used car dealers, realtors and other parasites, you claim you're "helping" people but you're not. Do us a favor go get yourself in the fucking oven.

>>11353647
and theres stuff that sits on grailed for months reasonably stuff price on grailed also goes in a week whats the difference?

so you also hate the japs you're buying from in the first place as well then? it's ok for you to buy a comme piece thats been passed around through five people from japan but as soon as it comes overseas the seller is a jew parasite?

Anyone got Yohji inspo? preferably not runway shots.

>>11353604
>shops like ragtag and rinkan are making money on everything they sell you know that right? but, that doesn't rub you the wrong way?
it does. I feel like more buyers in JP understand true value of garments, while most of Grailed is streetwear kids. The prices are also rarely as extortionate. I'm aware that that's mostly splitting hairs, but yes, I dislike reselling businesses. Dislike them more so when the original seller doesn't know that the person that they're selling to is just going to flip it. When I'm selling something, I hope it'll go to somebody who'll enjoy it for it's purpose, not to somebody looking for some quick resell bux (some care about this, most dont).

I hate 'dude jew lmao' posting but agree with a lot of what >>11353647 said. Contribute nothing, just leeches.

I understand that only people who actually care about rare garments in the first place will care when they're resold. I'm in the minority here. It's just annoying to me.

Do I think God should be banned from Grailed for selling Yahoo flips? Of course not. But I wouldn't mind if somebody broke into his house and stole all his fancy clothes.

>>11353668
Platforms like FJ are actually helping, they provide service. I'm paying for handling stuff, participation in auctions, providing web-services like watch list, sniper bidding, alarms etc. The jew reseller does not provide any service, he makes getting stuff more difficult.

>>11353694
I have nothing personal against Jews as nation, I'm using term as a figure.

>>11353675
check out kiko's fits from the style forum thread. I even bought a couple of pieces from him. he did re-sell at quite a high price, I couldn't really tell at the time.

>>11353705
>I have nothing personal against Jews as nation, I'm using term as a figure.
no worries not offended or anything, just associate anything Jewish with /pol/friends now

>>11353705
i'm not talking about from japan, i'm talking about the owner of the garment you're buying. people resell in japan but, it's ok for you to buy from them but not the person in the west? why? the jap with the 5th hand comme isn't a jew for reselling but the guy on grailed is?

>>11353694
>Do I think God should be banned from Grailed for selling Yahoo flips? Of course not. But I wouldn't mind if somebody broke into his house and stole all his fancy clothes.

you really have no idea what you're talking about

>>11353717
>the jap with the 5th hand comme isn't a jew for reselling
He might be, but you can't tell that exactly unless you're following him, watch for his listings etc. It could be evident for native jap user, but it's not so for a westerner so I don't want to speculate on this. Westerners who resell stuff on the other hand are pretty much more evident with their huge quantities of used stuff with jp tags so I prefer throwing my hate on people who parasite clearly for me rather on jap who might be innocent original owner of the garments.

>>11353740

>it's ok to buy from a reseller if i don't know they're a reseller

fuck off you don't even have any conviction in the shit you spew

>>11353750
It's not ok to hate the guy if you're not sure about him — that was the point. You have troubles with understanding.

>>11351730
impossible desu, gotta go full costume for it to work

>>11353750
not sure if that's what he was saying, friend

>>11353770
if you can't tell then you probably shouldn't be buying secondhand clothing....

>>11353647
I don't usually participate in arguments on this board. But I disagree with you a lot.

1) The "service" the Grailed seller provides is purchasing the items and making them available to Grailed buyers. The seller must incur risk and put in work. It is fair that he is rewarded.

2) The "market price" is what buyers are willing to pay and what sellers are willing to sell for. Grailed is a market in this context.

3) Yes, you are free to hate whoever you want. But I believe your hate is unjustified and childish.

You will never become rich or successful in life with the close minded attitude you have. If you don't want to, that's fine. I'm not trying to change your outlook.

I even hunt for auctions on Yjp primarily. I try to pay the lowest prices I can for the items I want. That's just me. But I can afford to buy from Grailed sellers like God if I want. I do not make assumptions about him or the people who buy from him (who you call "streetwear kids"). I'm just saying that you should try to open your mind maybe.

dull argument which nobody will see eye to eye on, now post more rare Yohjis :^)

ywn own these

long shot, but does anybody know of any places where these boots are stocked besides the Nepenthes online store? Sold out in >size 40

>>11351186
cop if you can get for that price, especially if yr a grill

wouldnt take much higher

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qxJ_l-5OSo

>>11354030
wish there was more stuff like this

also from 1999 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDMueJEKtb0

>>11353986
You guys don't get it. These Yahoo JP resellers on Grailed make profit by sitting their asses off and abusing market forces. They abuse the lae of supply and demand by acting as an intermediary between someone and his product by charging crazy markup and they're blatant about it. There is no service here and next to zero risk. The seller in Yahoo JP incurs the original risk.

The problem also isn't that the market price being asked is high as fuck its that its not even close to the actual price of the item used. It's not what the market is willing to pay but what these fucks want the market to pay. This is no different from people buying cheap houses then artificially raising the prices, causing all nearby houses to raise their prices. These products don't exist in a vacuum. This is what causes bubbles and artificial price inflations.

Youre just spouting muh free market and muh invisible hand at this point. If anyone needs to open-minded its you to see how fucked up and immoral this is.

>>11354258
>>11354258
so i should lower my price and get endlessly harassed by lowballers who will never pay on grailed solely out of the goodness of my heart?

there was a comment on the "true value" of clothes earlier in the thread which was absolute bollock and you seems to agree with it for some half assed "morality" reason, if i can find a comme jacke fot 2.5k yen
or a pair of yohji pants for 6k yen that means they're only worth that much because someone arbitrarily decided that yohji pants are now suddenly worth just 50$ a pair used? somehow the japanese have this innate knowledge on what the "true value of clothes is?" no thats fucking bullshit, can you tell the difference between someone who sells japanese clothes on grailed because they buy them for themselves and then decide they want to sell them or someone who just buys to resell? i doubt it, also what difference would it make. if i buy an item it is now mine and i should be allowed to do pretty much whatever i want with it, whether i sell it immediately or 6 months from now, one is less morally corrupt?

>>11354258
again no one has properly addressed resellers in japan themselves chances are everyone who has used yahoo japan has bought from a store, or a reseller in japan, because they sometimes charge less than the west. oh right it's ok because most people are too stupid to figure out who they're buying from in japan so you give them benefit of the doubt "hmmm this seller with 500+ listings and 6000+ feedback yeah right he might be the original owner of all this shit, its ok to buy off him" the japanese are doing exactly what the people in the west are but, because people in the west are still ignorant even those who use yahoo japan, they see the western resellers as evil malignant monsters to be punished and derided and the japanese resellers as an endless source of cheap fashion. stop pretending like one group doing it is ok and the other group doing it isn't. the japs read the market and try to capitalize on it just as much as the west does. watch whenever an recognizable items gets sold, for higher than average you can be certain a whole bunch will pop up with people trying to sell theirs for a quick buck. but, oh yeah i forgot though the west doing that makes them jew parasites because they their clothes for higher prices. no one seems to take into other factors why the west can sell their clothes for more, honestly the simplest explanation for most of it visibility and photo quality, jap photos suck so bad to the point unless you really know your shit you're going to miss tons of pieces better photos = higher prices. second is the japanese market is saturated for a handful of brands such as undercover, such as comme where you can get great deals simply because no one can be bothered to dig through 200 pages of auctions and no one else ends up bidding on stuff because they never saw it in the first place

>>11354258

However, you are right in that there has been artificial price manipulation but that's not inherently caused by people reselling their clothing it's because people with enough collective pull in internet fashion get together and decide to fuck the market for certain brands up usually they'll do it for a month or so then move on to the next one but, in the case of issey miyake they have entirely changed the market average price on yahoo japan for issey miyake is almost up 15% over the last few months, certain items like the IS bombers go for over 40k+ and you can trace this directly to god posting his issey bombers on social media, and then those sufu goons who all want to be him really badly going mad and bidding them up to 47K

pray for nippon

>>11354948
fuck another one?

>>11354875
They know how much it costs as they most likely bought it in store and are selling it at a price that reflects that use. All pricing is arbitrary if you want to go that way and I never made the point that they know the true price just that it should be charged fairly based on usage. Grailed resellers sell for a high markup which does not reflect the usage of the item. If they did the same thing then see my reply below.

>>11354906
If japs do the same thing then fuck them too. However, we don't know and we are only working on the framework of what we know. Grailed resellers are very explicit in this regard. I never said that the japanese are not doing this just that these types of actions should be condemned.

>>11354912
Agreed. IM Sport sucks though so it should be justly ignored.

>>11354948
Damn, I hope they recover from this.

>>11355169
We do know that the japs are doing it though, a Jap seller with 5,000 feedback, and a couple hundred listings is pretty obviously reselling, all the stores that list on rak and yahoo it's very obvious that they're reselling but that's how it works, do you get mad at thrift shops and consignment stores too?

>>11355169
Issey miyake sport is actually really nice and hence why it got very hyped up very quickly, instantly recognisable logo, good classic 80s shapes and decent quality pieces too

>>11355210
I'm biased towards his pleats line thats why. Nothing against IM though, he's my favorite designer. I think that it's like what CDG Play is to CDG.

>>11355201
Thrift stores don't have heavy markups. Thinking about it, it doesn't really matter
if they resell or not just that if they resell at a price which doesn't reflect the items usage. Only the original sellers and the resellers know this.

>>11355417
Ah so it's a stupid arbitrary distinction for you, you think the west sells for too much and somehow that's unfair, well the nice thing is you don't have to buy from the west but, there is nothing inherently wrong in what they are doing

>>11355444
An add-on to this, Japanese 2nd is exceptional well kept anything I've had stuff marked d rank arrive in brand new without tags condition before, so the ammount of wear idea doesnt transfer that well across markets

>>11355444
I did not say that what us westerners are doing is bad. Read my post one more time to understand what I said. If the Japanese do it or if Americans do it or if Zimbabweans do it, fuck them. They are abusing market forces.

>>11355474
Then they can sell it for higher prices that does reflect the usage. This situation is perfectly fine. However this always isn't the case.

>>11355506
>Then they can sell it for prices that reflect usage

They do.
And yet they're still criticised for being "Jew parasites" I guess no one should make any money off 2nd hand sales in any market because they're "taking advantage of market forces" and that's evil and immoral

>>11355564
I'm only criticizing the actions of those who heavily markup the prices and not the whole 2nd hand market you illiterate fuck

>>11355576
so your entire criticism is based on a set of completely arbitrary criteria?

sick argument there dude

>>11355590
No. Its based on the simple idea that people shouldn't be fucked over in any way.

What brands should I look for when looking for outerwear for fairly cheap? Its about 7c (44f) here in the mornings at the moment and Im going to SF later this year during winter.

>>11355636
And they're not being fucked over because they don't need to buy off someone "heavily marking up" these aren't the only people selling clothes.

>How dare someone sell a used garment for more money than I think its worth!!!!
>My opinion on what used clothes should cost is the only one that matters!!!!

Fuck you're autistic

>>11355686
>if one person sells overpriced shit while other people sell it for the right price and people are getting ripped off, we shouldn't call them out!
>after all, everybody knows everyone who is offering that same product!

you're autistic you nigger

>>11355946
if you don't know the value of what you're buying you probably shouldn't be buying it

>right price
>calling people out
>not understanding how the market works and how to get the best price
>advocating spoonfeeding retards who can't use the internet

yep you're an autist

>>11355946
>>11355686
You should both stop arguing about this. If someone wants to mark up a product knowingly that's their right to do and there is nothing wrong with it if someone ends up buying it. The consumer is responsible for their own purchases. If I walk into a store and see a shirt I want for 50 dollars when its only worth 20 dollars and I impulse buy it that is entirely my fault. If I compare prices online and research the shirt I want and find it for 15 dollars then that's my accomplishment. The person marking up the price is exempt from any "moral" bullshit because unless he/she has a monopoly on that one product then there's no reason you can't put some effort into figuring out if the price is what you want to pay.

>>11355976
yes i agree but for some reason this guy thinks theres a moral responsibility when it comes to selling clothing to retards on the inetrnet

>>11355976
>>11355987
>>11355946
If you want to get super moral about it, those shirts are probably only really worth like 10 cents and most of them are manufactured by some poor half naked Asian child who only eats once a week and will never make enough money in his short lifetime to afford a single one of these clothing items.

>>11355998
>designer clothing is made in sweatshops

it's not even summer yet c'mon man

>>11356014
Read the label on your designer clothing. If it says anywhere that isn't a first world country then it was probably made in a sweat shop or at least a place with unfavorable conditions.

>>11355970
>>11355987
Everything you do, assuming you are a rational agent, should be treated with the utmost moral scrutiny. Nitpicking which should and shouldn't be subject to moral judgement is simply arbitrary.

>>11355686
This is the right answer. I don't resell from yjp, but I do sell a lot of used clothing I have acquired over the years. I put the price at about 5 times what I think it is worth and just leave it on eBay. If it gets low-balled I am usually happy with that price and the buyer thinks they got a great deal. It is win/win. People often judge quality on price so putting your price too low reduces the attractiveness of the product to a lot of buyers. But you know what? About 50% of my sales are buy it now at the full price without any attempt to negotiate.
Why is that? Because people value clothing differently and people value money differently. It is senseless to price down rare older designer clothes. For Nike, Acne, anything remotely new that other people are selling, sure you need to be competitive. For anything old and designer you set the price. And I'd recommend to do so as high as possible.

>>11356018

what on earth are you going on about
we're talking about people like this

https://www.grailed.com/users/895-god/wardrobe

yeah dude these things are really only worth 10 cents and yohji is totally using slave labour

>>11356036
I don't know about the production side of Yohji, but I dated a girl in Japan who worked at their flagship store in the menswear section. She told me they were cutthroat and if sales were not good enough they would force the staff to buy clothing at the full retail price until targets were met. As she worked in the men's department it meant she had to buy guy's clothing that didn't even fit her and her wages were terrible, around $10 an hour. The management on the retail side seem really shitty, so I would not be surprised if they were exploitative on the production side either.

>>11356030
>the buyer THINKS they got a great deal
How is it a fucking win-win situation when the buyer thinks they got a great deal when you kbow that you fucking lied to them about its value? Its a win-lose situation and whats worse is you make the buyer think they're happy when they are really getting fucked in the ass. Its never a win-win in these types of situations and that's what I'm trying to make you guys understand. One guy gets fucked in the pass and is deluded to think he got a deal while another gets happy. Since when are these type of actions "right" in any type of ethical framework? Its pure selfishness.

>>11356020 sure alright i can get behind that but, selling clothing for a price that some guy on 4chan says is "too much" isn't a moral dilemma

>>11356061
How so? Why should certain events be treated as more important morally than others? Aren't the distinctions arbitrary and wouldn't smaller moral decisions allow for a low-risk experience which would allow you to better reevaluate your morals for larger situations?

Again, nothing is in a vacuum. Small moral events can infer insight when larger dilemmas occur. You don't lift 400 lbs of weight by going straight to 400 lbs but working slowly towards 400 lbs. Same thing with ethical dilemmas.

>>11356050
Used designer clothing are luxury items. Luxury meaning they are completely impractical and unnecessary. No one needs to own them. There are thrift stores or Wal-Mart that people can go to if they need clothing on their backs as cheap as possible.

You sound like some teenager who browses Grailed 24/7 looking for a bargain that he thinks he is entitled to buying for as cheap as possible.

Who sets the price if not the seller? You? Is there some formula that we should accept based on the original RRP and discounted for age and condition?

I can tell you that none of my second hand sales of designer goods sell for anywhere close to their retail price.

And it is a win-win situation when both parties are happy. Is that hard to understand for you?

>>11356097
>Used designer clothing are luxury items. Luxury meaning they are completely impractical and unnecessary. No one needs to own them.
So people shouldn't only get ripped off at essential items? Again with the arbitrary distinctions.

>You sound like some teenager who browses Grailed 24/7 looking for a bargain that he thinks he is entitled to buying for as cheap as possible.
I can pay full retail for items. It's not about getting my money's worth but rather about not wanting people to get ripped off. Get that point across your thick skull.

>Who sets the price if not the seller?
The original price is set my the producers of the garment and its constituent parts. When a puece of clothing is bought and a person resells it, it is only logical to sell it at a price lower than the retail price to account for any uses, damages, and such. Call this price as Price A. This price is arbitrarily set by the seller, like all prices. There are two situations for Price A:
- Price A is sold for the same price or higher than retail price. This is what fuccbois do with Supreme.
- Price A is sold for a significantly lower price and becomes the agreed upon product price when the item is bought. Reseller sells it for Price B which is higher than Price A but lower than retail. In this situation, prospective buyers are paying more to the reseller for being a glorified intermediary when the reseller could've bought the product for Price A from the original seller. In this case the reseller extracts more money by just sitting their asses off and not doing anything. There is zero risk and all reward. If Price B becomes lower than Price A then all is fine.

Simple concept there. Not everything should be mathematical.

>I can tell you that none of my second hand sales of designer goods sell for anywhere close to their retail price.
Not my point.

>And it is a win-win situation when both parties are happy.
Not when one thinks he is happy due to lack of information.

>>11356050
the buyer thinks he paid what it's worth which he did.

>>11356048
production side is using some of the best pattern drafters and the same fabric factory since the start so yeah i'm going to out on a limb and say the clothes are worth a bit more than 10 cents and aren;t made by children

>>11356168
I genuinely think you are just trollin everyone ITT. Trunks put your trip back on, because this shit is so insanely idiotic that you can not possibly be serious.

>When a puece of clothing is bought and a person resells it, it is only logical to sell it at a price lower than the retail price to account for any uses, damages, and such.

You are literally saying
>People shouldnt sell anything for higher than retail because I said so.

You are not taking into account basic principals of economics once again. You lack the fucking elementary knowledge to know the forces behind supply and demand as well as the many other factors that play into the cost of an item. If there is more demand then there is supply of a good then the price will be higher as a result. How is it so difficult for you to wrap your tiny self righteous cunty mind around? You are so self absorbed that you put yourself up on some fucking "moral" pedistal. Just because everytime you sell something on grailed you lose money because you listed it "fairly" doesnt mean you are morally in the right, it just means youre a terrible buisnessman and deserve to be fucked out of any profit.

>>11356168
>So people shouldn't only get ripped off at essential items? Again with the arbitrary distinctions.
How are they being ripped off if they are happy with their purchase? I would refund anyone who wasn't happy. I actually get between 30-50% of buyers messaging me how much they liked an item after receiving it.

>It's not about getting my money's worth but rather about not wanting people to get ripped off. Get that point across your thick skull.

You seem to equate people paying more for an item than a seller did as being "ripped off". In that case every single profit-making business in the world is ripping people off? All used car dealers rip people off?

>The original price is set my the producers of the garment and its constituent parts. When a puece of clothing is bought and a person resells it...

You are making a lot of assumptions here. The clothing can be worn by the first buyer(s), it may not be to their tastes, they want to move it, or they enjoyed it for a while then wanted to change their aesthetic. Also you are assuming the last buyer in this chain had the money, the opportunity or the awareness to purchase the item from wherever the latest seller bought it.

>Not when one thinks he is happy due to lack of information.

If that was true then no one would buy Supreme or Yeezy re-seller items because the RRP is widely known.

You are just dead wrong on most of your points. You are also forgetting the risk that the Grailed reseller takes on by buying and importing the items first. The garment may be damaged or unsellable in some way due to smoke or some other defect. The re-sellers usually take better photos, and provide better measurements and descriptions as well. People like God have many transactions so buyers can trust purchasing from him more so than they probably would a random Japanese person on YJP. These are all value-adding features that are arbitrarily held by each prospective buyer. You don't get to set those.

>>11356085
yeah but, just because some anon on 4chan tells your clothes are too expensive doesn;t mean he's right and doesn't mean he knows the value of what you're selling so yeah it's not a moral dilemma
>>11356168
>Not when one thinks he is happy due to lack of information.

sure in the event that the buyer is totally ignorant but, you're assuming that people don;t refuse to use yahoo japan and the likes despite knowing about them and knowingly pay higher prices and they're ok with that. also you would think if someone sees a seller with 300 items in a full ranges of sizes it might occur to them that they're getting clothes from somewhere else esp. when a significant portion are japanese clothes from the 1990s

> it is only logical to sell it at a price lower than the retail price to account for any uses, damages, and such.

sure but,this ignores deadstock items

> Price A is sold for a significantly lower price and becomes the agreed upon product price when the item is bought.
so when god bought his hakamas for 250 usd 2nd hand yyph hakamas suddenly plummeted in value over 60%? thats not how that works

>There is zero risk and all reward

demonstrably untrue
lots of morons who though they could make a quick buck are now sitting on 1000s of dollars of clothes they can't sell
you can't just resell any junk item unless you're god....

>>11356223
>
You are just dead wrong on most of your points. You are also forgetting the risk that the Grailed reseller takes on by buying and importing the items first. The garment may be damaged or unsellable in some way due to smoke or some other defect. The re-sellers usually take better photos, and provide better measurements and descriptions as well. People like God have many transactions so buyers can trust purchasing from him more so than they probably would a random Japanese person on YJP. These are all value-adding features that are arbitrarily held by each prospective buyer. You don't get to set those.

god bless someone else in this thread who gets it

>>11356227
>so when god bought his hakamas for 250 usd 2nd hand yyph hakamas suddenly plummeted in value over 60%? thats not how that works


following up on this because it's unclear what i meant

point is it's not unethical for someone who gets a great deal on something to sell it for fair market value and just because one item sells for below market value doesn't mean market value is now the same as the low price

>>11356194
Take note of the word thinks. He thinks he enjoys it when he actually doesn't.

>>11356204
Exactly the reason why this type of business model poisons. You get rewarded for not being a good person but how much you can exploit. Examine your ideology and reread my post as you lack basic reading comprehension. None of those were what I said and simply just strawmanned arguments.

>>11356223
They are happy because you didn't tell them how much is actually costs. Message all of them right now how much it was before you resold it and see what I am saying.

They are getting ripped off as resellers are completely unnecessary but exist as an entity whose sole goal is to exploit. And yes, used car salesmen are cancer.

Also on your Supreme point, false dichotomy there. They are happy because Supreme is a status symbol which they can flex.

>>11356239
>you can trust someone who has been constantly exploiting people
Porkie pls

>>11356250
I never said that items of similar type as a collective plummet in price. Reread my post.

>>11356227
I said zero risk as a hyperbole m8. You need very very little (almost close to zero) knowledge to sell this shit.

>>11356262
>Take note of the word thinks. He thinks he enjoys it when he actually doesn't
>i can also read minds!

>They are happy because you didn't tell them how much is actually costs. Message all of them right now how much it was before you resold it and see what I am saying.

the cost of the item =/= the value of an item

>Exactly the reason why this type of business model poisons

uhm the profit making buisness model or?


>When a puece of clothing is bought and a person resells it, it is only logical to sell it at a price lower than the retail price to account for any uses, damages, and such.

>items never appreciate in value

wow i have read some retarded shit on this site but dam if your serious this has got to take the cake holy shit

pretty sure you're just a shitty troll though

>>11356262
>Exactly the reason why this type of business model poisons. You get rewarded for not being a good person but how much you can exploit. Examine your ideology and reread my post as you lack basic reading comprehension. None of those were what I said and simply just strawmanned arguments.

Lmfao you arent even trying anymore. You didnt even comment on any of my talking points just threw out the
>le strawmaning
Come on, we can argue about your skewed sense of self importance, you just have to defend yourself instead of not acknowledging my talking points.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Yohji-Yamamoto-AW15-Pour-Homme-Wool-Jacket-/262463321710?hash=item3d1c08766e:g:fEkAAOSwAvJXBcZh

>>11356262
>He thinks he enjoys it when he actually doesn't.
This is some next level shitposting.
Your arguments have been refuted by multiple posters. At this point you are either mentally ill or trolling. Either way there is no point further engaging you. Good luck with your bargain hunting on Grailed I guess.

>>11356326
>>11356333
>>11356493
Clearly you three are misunderstanding my point. Here is my argument in premise-conclusion form for you dumb fucks:
1. Exploiting someone is morally wrong.
2. To exploit others is to take unfair advantage of them as a means to an end.
2.1 If there is no new labour worked on an item then its price should not increase and increasing the price is exploitative.
3. Resellers take unfair advantage of buyers by charging items at surplus prices despite being previously valued at a much lower price.
3.1 The buyers could have bought the item at the price the reseller bought it, thus are charging more for buying through an intermediary.
∴ Therefore, resellers engage in morally reprehensible actions and should be condemned.

If you have any gripes then attack Premises 1-3.

Notes:
This argument assumes that the item has gone through significant abuse as is not a "hyped" item, as is the case with most Yahoo! JP items. Items which appreciate in value are typically hyped pieces.
On the point of the buyers thinking they are happy upon purchasing, I would like resellers who add surplus value to their items to reveal to the buyers how much they bought the item including shipping to illustrate my point. They would surely be much happier to buy a grail piece at a much lower price compared to a higher price.

>>11356500
>1. Exploiting someone is morally wrong.
Prove there is any exploitation. If misrepresentation or fraud occurs buyers have recourse through PayPal.
>2. To exploit others is to take unfair advantage of them as a means to an end.
Where is the unfair advantage in listing an item someone owns that potential buyers might otherwise have not seen?
>2.1 If there is no new labour worked on an item then its price should not increase and increasing the price is exploitative.
Wrong there is labour worked on reselling a piece. And the price can be set at whatever the seller wants. If just one person is willing to pay for it at that price then a sale is realized. This is how a market works.
>3. Resellers take unfair advantage of buyers by charging items at surplus prices despite being previously valued at a much lower price.
Value is up to the individual. The buyer and seller reach an agreement via negotiation. It is not your call to make.
>3.1 The buyers could have bought the item at the price the reseller bought it, thus are charging more for buying through an intermediary.
Most of them probably could not, either by not knowing how to use a proxy for YJP auctions, not knowing that item was even up for auction on YJP, or not having the cash to buy the item before, but they do have the money now.

There you go.

>>11356517
/thread

Oh btw, get in those last day sales f!jp is doing

>>11356517
>Prove there is any exploitation.
That is what I do below. Fraud in its legal sense =/= exploitation also. This is a subtler devil.

>Where is the unfair advantage in listing an item someone owns that potential buyers might otherwise have not seen?
I proceed to explain this in the next premises.

>Wrong there is labour worked on reselling a piece. And the price can be set at whatever the seller wants. If just one person is willing to pay for it at that price then a sale is realized. This is how a market works.
Labor is when a person directly places a physical or cultural mark into a piece. There is again, zero labor in reselling. For value of goods, see 2.1 which is just a restatement of the labor theory of value.

>Value is up to the individual. The buyer and seller reach an agreement via negotiation. It is not your call to make.
You say that value is up to the individual but then say that buyer and sellers reach an agreement of the items value. Does this not seem to contradict itself as buyer and sellers are clearly not individualistic but a societal unit, albiet a small one?

Also, by "you" what part of the transaction process are you referring to? I clearly am arguing from the point of a bystander.

>Most of them probably could not, either by not knowing how to use a proxy for YJP auctions, not knowing that item was even up for auction on YJP, or not having the cash to buy the item before, but they do have the money now.
This is again exploitative as you rely on a person's lack of knowledge to squeeze money out of them. No different than those who sell herbal medicines.

Weak arguments, desu.

>>11356548
So all retailers are exploitative unless they are directly owned by the manufacturer? You have some serious logic gaps here.

Also are you ESL, you seem to have serious issues expressing yourself and it might explain why you cannot comprehend the majority of points people are making to you.

everyone is fucking autistic here

if someone buys an item and a second person decides to buy it for more than the original buyer paid, good for them

>>11356548
people value money differently you tard
a lot of people with real jobs dont have time to sit on yahoo auctions for 4 hours a day like autists such as you. they want a coat or something and casually browse grailed. they see something they like, put in an offer or two and buy 1 if the price is good. they receive the item and if it as described they are happy. no more thought or time spent on it.

you are projecting hard thinking everyone has the same budget or values of time, money and clothing as you do

>>11356572
Retailers are exploitative, yes. Hence why I only buy second-hand or on sale. Ask any person who works in fashion and they'll tell you how they never buy full retail.

On the ESL point, I barely proofread.

>>11356586
Drop trip.

>>11346096
What's wrong with y3 and cdg play?
>sorry for being a newfag

>>11356500
>1.
no one is being exploited, people know about yahoo japan and willingly do not use it
>2.1
curation is labour actually hate to burst your bubble but what stores like rinkan ragtag, abeyance, rosenrot, 1stdibs and god do is labour
>3
>i don't like people making money
it's not unfair because the buyer doesn't have to buy off them because no reseller has a monopoly on the market
>3.1
not true,
tell me where can i buy the items rinkan sells before they sell them? aha oh right you can't because you can;t get them before rinkan does.
also not to mention the geographic restrictions certain markets have, an issey miyake cargo bomber that sold for 150,000 yen was sitting on markplaats.nl for over a year for 125 euros but, you had to live in the Netherlands to purchase it, seller refused international shipping and refused to ship it to a mail forwarding service this doesn't even include the people who won';t sell or ship to proxy buyers in japan also all the best resellers again have connections to items that aren't listed on any website or in any store

>This argument assumes that the item has gone through significant abuse

so you're talking about a minuscule ammount of items on the secondhand market
> as is the case with most Yahoo! JP items.

this was addressed earlier in the thread, most yahoo japan items are in spectacular condition actually
>I would like resellers who add surplus value to their items
again with the arbitrary distinctions
when i list an item i list an item for what i think its value is because thats what i think i can get for it, you will find this is true of pretty much everyone who has ever sold anything
if you see a deal, an undervalued item, whatever and you jump at it and then sell it that is not morally reprehensible

>>11356606
>buys second
>probably has bought from resellers despite his autistic crusade against them

look i get it you're espousing very left leaning economic drivel and morality so you're not very bright to begin with but this is just embarrassing

trunks here ama

>>11356687
I've won a few auctions for 1Yen from resellers on Yahoo. I guess I better sell those items for 1 cent on Grailed and take a bath on the shipping and cleaning costs and discount my time spent photographing and describing it. I wouldn't want Trunks feeling like I was exploiting someone.

>>11356702
yeah dude how dare you be a savy shopper, since not everyone can get sicks deals no one can get sick deals

>>11353346
>>11353341
>>11350341
what season are these from?

>>11353034
you should take a basic economics class or something

>>11356735
2002ss I think? He did a collab with 杖村さえこ so they're called サエコ or saeko shirts.

http://page5.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/e184406423 what to wear with this? hoping when I get back to Japan they still have it. at least want to try it on.

>>11354001
How would you react if you saw someone using these three all in the same fit?

>>11356763
black wool gab yohji trousers, black cotton yyph shirt with no frills and simple black leather shoes or boots (no gaudy shit like guidi)

>>11351186
yes i do

been downsizing most of my wardrobe but can't get myself to sell any of my Issey pieces. they are just too nice. even the ones I don't wear much.

>>11356789
i would probably think "damn that dude's clothes are loud as fuck but they're pretty sick"

has anyone ever found one of these for sale?

>>11356952

>>11356873
Post some m8. You got any Homme Plisse pieces?

>>11356955
>>11356952
die weeb scum

>>11356963
I'll take a pic of my Issey outerwear all together later and post it here or in the next iteration of the thread if this one is archived.

Anyone familiar with Julius sizing? specially for their jeans / pants / cargos

>>11356952
Nah but I have the coolest piece from that release

>>11356963
You're posting in a japanese designer general on 4chan and calling other people 'weeb scum' lmaoooo
>>11356952
>>11356955
Grail material desu

>>11357006
Dope
I wish I knew about the collection when it released, maybe I could have gotten a proxy ;_;

>>11357028
Kek I'm joking m8. I'm a weeb too

>>11356993
Depends on the model as sizing is hella inconsistent. Better to go by measurement instead.

>>11356952
i would wear that with absolutely no shame if it wasn't rei q

>>11357088
I've never watched the rebuilds, I didn't even realize. idgaf though
>>11357028
The sleeve pinstripes look great

Have any designers done pieces with Akira, or inspired by?

>>11356789
would spill coffee on them :^)

What's the difference between S and SS in Jap brands?

>>11357030
I knew about it before it released but it's not like I had the money to buy any of it. Or the ability to pull it off.

>>11357168
It's s and xs, the same way ll means xl

>>11348019
this desu

>>11353034
>>11352948
>>11353986
>>11354258
It seems clear to me the contention is just down to if Grailed should be understood as an impersonal market whose participants are primarily interested in exploiting arbitrage or as a personal exchange within a community whose participates are primiraly interested in advancing the hobby/art forward

That's why the distinction between Supreme and YY was drawn early on. For Supreme's resale market, it's obvious it falls under the former. But with archival pieces from avant-garde designers, the reseller 'market' has been historically seen as a community, not a market. Sellers like God coming in and treating it as business venture feels like he's exploiting the community's goodwill.

And really, he is: the opportunity for arbitrage exists only because of the community's mutual agreement to set prices at artificially low, making the pieces generally accessible; even if the means for sitting on rare pieces at huge upmarking will be available for many, the community never allowed that to be a sustainable option.

Of course, it's not like God just realized there was money lying on the table this whole time. It comes out of larger trends in fashion culture, ie streetwear mongoloids starting to 'graduate' to designerwear and dragging their hype culture with them and also a service like Grailed lowering the barrier to entry, and creating that gap with rakuten/y!j markets

It's similar to "vintage" resellers who professionally scavenge thrift stores to resell gems at upmarked prices. Casuals are willing to pay extra to save their time and effort, but at the expense of pushing out the initial thrifters who were the ones to establish the value of those pieces in the first place, out of critical and artistic - not commercial - intentions. It's easy to understand the capitalists here as parasites, subsuming an underground culture. But you can't blame them, it's the gentrifying poser faggots they're targeting who are really at fault.

>>11351730
Gotta commit to the aestheic my man. I like soloist but don't/wont cop any

>>11357362
agree with this.

Tell me /jdg/ is this the greatest jacket of all time?

>>11357335
Thats a dude m8

>>11357416
Nope. This is

>>11357364
Soloist works well with other brands like Junya or those American repro stuff

>>11357429
This is also a candidate for greatest jacket

>>11357362
Teach me how to write like you anon

>>11357416
IS is crap. Why is that diffusion line being paid attention to all of a sudden? Before Issey stuff blew up I've seen similar jackets sell for less than 3000Y on Yahoo. Quality and design are inferior to IM Men.

>>11357362
If this is true then the "community" need not fret. Instead they should be saving because once the fad of wearing 30 year old used Japanese pieces passes, all of this shit will flood the market and collectors can snap them all up for less than they probably would have buying directly from Yahoo.

Does anyone know anything about Rei Kawakubo's eponymous label?

I bought this jacket on grailed and I haven't been able to find any other pieces with the same label. It's not homme plus or mainline or anything else.

>>11357416
not close, but where has the hype for this line come from now?

>>11357440
I'm guessing its a label she just started when she begun designing clothing. Note that is is pure speculation with little basis. Do you happen to have a pic of the label? Maybe that can give hints.

>>11357446
Simple. First, its a brand that is a household name. Second, it has a recognizable logo. And finally, it has the 90s sportswear slhouette which are very much in trend.

>>11357454
Unfortunately the care tag that would normally have the production date is worn out. But it does say CdG, and the seller told me it was from the mid-80s or so.

Maybe if I'm ever in NY i can ask the store or something because i'm really curious.

>>11357429
>>11357433
both of you wrong. this is goat coat.

>>11357529
I have a few Final Home pieces that I like but the quality is like super dry or some other shopping mall shit. Not in same league as Yohji/Issey/et al.

>>11357529
>Says the cocoon coat isnt the best of all time
>Posts a jacket that wouldn't exist without that same cocoon coat

>>11357440
It's her own personal label similar to y's red label, very rare, however the piece you have if is that same bomber that was up on grailed for around 250 is pretty lame and beat to shit

>>11357454
Those are reasons why it's easy to hype, that's not why it became hyped

Earlier in the thread it was outlined how certain groups in internet fashion influence 2nd hand markets because they have enough collective pull amongst themselves to start trends and say what's "cool" to dumb kids online. That's exactly what happened here except instead of a group conspiring, it was a single person and driving up the price almost 10 times was not intentional but a rather unfortunate side effect of him being too successful. Basically god bought a couple issey sport bombers and threw then up on his Instagram, everyone was like what the heck are those and where can I get them for the reasons you outlined, then the immediate group around him started buying them thus making is a bit harder to get them and the price went from 5k to about 10-15k depending who was bidding( it was still possible to get them for 5k at this point) then god posted a red wool and leather sleeved iteration on Grailed and this is when it got really bad because once he released it on Grailed the sufu boys, eddie and his goons caught wind of it and started bidding all the bombers up to astronomical heights30-40k+. This also had an adverse effect on the issey market in general as pieces that would normally go for just a few thousand yen were now selling much higher, the average sold price on yahoo Japan increased by a full 15% in the 3 months that followed god's original Grailed posting and even today its still about . 8-10% higher. The hype building was not helped by God trying to buy every issey sport piece in existence and his position at Grailed led to him getting the jacket on Ian Connor which really fucked things up

>>11357729
Didn't hear about this when it was going down, had no idea that God was that huge. Just thought he was a regular fuck reselling clothes with good photography. Was wondering why all the shittier lines of Issey were appearing on all the Ian Connors

What's God's Instagram out of curiosity? And what's his position at Grailed? Never cared before but this is interesting

>>11357729
is this why trunks is so butthurt? god has been able to make a legit business out of reselling and he is some autist with $5000 of shit no one wants sitting his moms basement?

>>11357809
Trunks' grailed listings are better desu

>>11357829
forgot pic. This number (n)ine coat is one of my sorta-Grails but cant find in size

>>11357809
The autist who hates reselling in this thread isn't trunks, trunks and God don't dislike each other

>>11357782
here
https://www.instagram.com/btch/

>>11358369
god must have that asian immigrant money

>>11357429

timmay or whatever on IG wears it with a lot of junya, as well as visvim, engineered garments etc.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BC1iXHBFD4m/

this is fantastic

>>11358369
Ugh, why does he sell all of the nice tasteful stuff he finds and keep all the memester shit with huge resell value? Just looks like a really rich Hypebeast imo. I assume he's just driving the price up by hyping them?

>>11358476
Damn, such nice fits here. Is he on /fa/? Probably the only time I've seen Miyashita pulled off with other non-Miyashita this well. Never thought of wearing Soloist with Junyas/Nepenthes type stuff but it's a good idea

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>>11358508
and ffs that whole he really beat that whole 'Vietmemes' joke to the ground. Not even a hater, it's just the kind of thing that's not funny past the first time

>>11358409
He made all his money himself

>>11358508
What are you talking about most of those items he has pictures of on his Instagram he's sold or currently selling

>>11358554
I mean the one's he's wearing. Are those for sale too?

>>11358554
Im mostly just disappointed that we don't have any fit pics with the really awesome 'out there' stuff he has on his account

>>11358549
I mean his initial capital must've came from somewhere which wasn't himself

>>11358508
timmmay usually browses /r/avantgardefashion or /r/malefashion on plebbit

Sup guys i'm the autist from last thread who dumped a shitload of YY links on y!jp. I'll now dump some Issey stuff I found which aren't my size:

AW14 Pleated Sweater - http://page11.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/n172010377

Colorblock Turtleneck - http://page12.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/p503644878

Rainbow Sttriped Shirt - http://page4.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/d186856327

Leather Blouson - http://page9.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/k178737970

SS16 Wrinkle Trousers - http://page17.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/v459254664

Red Wrinkled Jacket - http://page10.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/m140466503

SS16 Printed Jacket - http://page5.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/e180670345

Gradient Dye Shirt - http://page22.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/l338198112

>inb4 trunks/god resells it

>>11358759
have considered buying those wrinkle processed trousers many a time, but it'd probably just look like I dont know how to use an ironing board

>>11358887
get some wrinkled shirt or jacket so it wouldnt look too weird anon

>>11358508
I like this but where do you have to live to get away with wearing something like this? feel like I'd be laughed at if I dressed like this

>>11358759
These are really awful links please refrain from posting until you cop some taste

>>11359150
thanks for contributing to the thread with more tasteful garments and/or actual discussion, anon !!

>>11359114
This isn't too abnormal and hard to pull off surely? Without the hat, this is a really good and fairly inoffensive fit

>>11359169
telling you to stop shitting up the thread with awful pieces and prices is contributing to the thread

>>11359114
soloist stuff always manages to make the wearer look like a gay dandy imo

what's a good way to find good yohji on y!jp? i'm fine with paying more but every time I search most of the results are hideous ancient crap, can't be bothered to sift through that shit

>>11359150
Oh no! Anon, the purveyor of taste, has descended upon us all! Bow down you filthy plebs!

>>11359330
wasn't him, I personally appreciate link dumps though even if there are only one or two good finds

>soloist stuff always manages to make the wearer look like a gay dandy imo
agree but he probably goes for that. Like a gay Johnny Depp. I'm really lukewarm on most of his stuff because of it

>>11359426
I posted it and really just picked links which were semi-ok. Nothing I would really cop bar the SS16 stuff. I kept the good stuff for myself. ;)

>>11358624
Pretty sure he worked for his own money, I do know his parents didn't give him it

>>11359401
Uh dude those links suck lmao

Will a size 3 in this fit if I wear a M usually?
http://trove.shop-pro.jp/?pid=98257282

>>11356952
Who designed this?

>>11359714
yohji

>>11357433
>Teach me how to write like you anon
adderall

How do I into y!jp for real? I need a proxy yes, but where do I find one? I'm willing to commit to copping stuff from there myself.

>>11359743
google it dude lmao
it's really easy
and most have step by step instructions

>>11359752
Eh, okay. This doesn't seem nearly as hard as I think it is, then.

>>11359387
There's only like 40 pages of it dude just take a couple hours and look through it all

Someone ID these for me?

>>11360360
read the OP fuccboi. no Y3 here

>>11360360
better off hitting the sneaker general.

waywt?
yohji jacket, shirt, and pants. Stan Smiths. In the market for Yohji Stan Smiths because I'm a fucciboi for Yohji.

>>11360502
please go back to styleforum and leave us alone

>>11360502
decent fit but i think a pajama-type shirt would've looked better here than the ls shirt. the coat is sick too

>>11360502
my god i hope i don't look like this if i decide to ever go full-yohji

>>11360552
yeah idk it's pretty hard to fuck up yohji but somehow he's found a way

>>11360530
I've tried leaving anon I swear.

>>11360539
yeah, working with the yohji I got. I really like the jacket.

>>11360552
I'm afraid so anon. you'll never look like the runway/inspo

>>11360580
>you'll never look like the runway

except they're plenty of people who pull off sick fits with yohji and the runway is very wearable anyways

>>11360576
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>>11360530
fit isn't that bad. it's just that he's fat, would look better if he was skinnier and more drape-y

>>11358759
>SS16 Printed Jacket - http://page5.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/e180670345
holy shit
this is my favorite piece from him recently
not that i could afford it or pull it off though

>>11357553
Is FH related to Issey in some way? Last year I purchased one of their fishtails but I never wore it and ended up selling to buy something else.

>>11346096
My junya knit

>>11360586
no they just use DSLRs and tryhard staged poses to pretend the photo is candid. shuitsang is a great example. he would look no better or worse than this anon if he took some shitty selfie in a mirror

>>11361122

Fh grew out of issey miyakes wind coats,designer used to be at issey miyake then started his own line

>>11361288
You are actually retarded

>>11361288
I wouldn't go that far. the fit isn't bad and would benefit from a good camera as >>11360967
said the fit doesn't work because he's a little fat.
definitely shui's and most people's fits benefit from good camera but there's more too it.

FUCK the only FH jackets i find on ebay are in OLIVE

>>11362088
shitsang plz

>>11362469
just go through the styleforum thread and look at any of the oldfags from there abosu,kiko, fuck man even davidlee dresses better than king solomon

>>11361288
keep pretending his proportions and taste aren't forever unattainable by someone like you

>>11362884
Faggots shit on beautiful people, what else is new...

Still looking for some good bags (preferably not knapsacks) that look good with YYPH/CDGH+ stuff. Any recs?

>>11362999
Yyph of course

>>11361288
>I have never see yohjis clothes on anyone in real life

>>11362999
Porter? Their leather offerings are less "techy" looking

Thoughts on Lad Musician? Been eyeing a pair of strerch denim. Had a chance to handle some stuff in Hankyu's a while back which was -okay- i guess

>>11358476
>>11358508
Love how he doesn't make EG seem too "out there". Always felt EG and anything nepenthes often get worn in a baggier/dadcore silhouette than i care for, his looks nice and fitted

Link to God's IG?

>>11363168
@Btch

>>11363103
Any specific models? I can only find women's YY bags or YYPH knapsacks

>>11363133
Thanks senpai. I'll check them out

>>11362955
>shitsang
>beautiful people
yea, no

>>11363638
he's not conventionally attractive in a hot or sexy way, but his aesthetic appeal is through the roof. would not fuck but would gladly look at him all day. would maybe blow him if I'm feeling generous.

>>11362599
curious, whats wrong with my fit? I happy with it, that's why I posted it, I think it's pretty basic, nothing amazing but nothing bad.

>>11364121

>be anorexic
>wear all black
>use a DSLR and pose as if in a candid photo
>reduce contrast by 10% for film filter look
>reduce saturation to look paler than reality and to make sure doesnt stick out against a normal environment
>have an aesthetic appeal through the roof

here you go bro, now you can be a tumblr supastar

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the most autistic thread in /fa/'s history bar none, these keep getting worse and worse

>>11364611
>taking time to quote dozens of posts on a the fashion section of a japanese anime imageboard
>not autistic

>>11364611
>taking time to quote dozens of posts on the fashion section of a japanese anime imageboard
>not autistic
BOIIIIIII

>>11364623
>posting in an autistic thread
>not expecting autism

boy if you don't
bottom text

>>11364627

>>11360502
the guy spouting knowledge in the japanese designer thread ends up looking like this

i'm dead

>>11364668
nah they look like this

>>11364668
how else do you think they look like? yohji fucking shit but praised outta this world. fatties can't into fashion.

>>11364683
say what you want about him but i'd cum buckets if he blew me. those lips.

Going to Japan at the end of the year, which stores should i check out for issey, yohji, cdg? Old and new.

>>11353563
>jap
unironically using "jap"
kill yourself racist asshole

>>11365151
Where in Japan nigga? Get you some Japanese qts while you're there (esp. if you're white)

Just put up a pair of extremely rare Junya Watanabe pants on grailed. They're from '06.

http://www.vogue.com/fashion-shows/fall-2006-ready-to-wear/junya-watanabe

https://www.grailed.com/listings/686616

Anyone have experienced deals that were too good to be true and turned to be legit?

>>11366164
god tier

>>11365557
Lmao found the cuck

>>11364691
>Yohji fucking shit

This is a real person who actually posted this I mean I know it's /fa/ but holy shit lmao

>>11366164
They're not that rare you can get them between 10-20k no problem, also they're women's so the fits going to be really weird

>>11366259

CdG f/w2002 knit jacket for $45. It's one of the simpler jackets from that collection but I can wear it in public without looking too out of the norm. Have a crap picture because I can't find anything else.

>>11366259

>CdG f/w2002 knit jacket for $45.

There's no way to get it now, right?

>>11366447
higher res pic 4 u

>>11366447
y!jp find?

>>11366500
close up

>>11366467
Sorry nope. Way too good of a deal to pass up!

>>11366511
Rakuten.

>>11366500
>>11366516
Thanks bb

To whoever posts the new thread, here's the new general pasta:

/JDG/ is a place to discuss general Japanese designer fashion from designers such as Yohji Yamamoto, Rei Kawakubo and Junya Watanabe (Comme des Garcons), Issey Miyake, Takahiro Miyashita (TheSoloist and Number (N)ine), Chitose Abe (Sacai), and such. Note that we do not allow discussion of Y3 and CdG Play as this is a fuccboi-free zone. Also, no Julius and Undercover as we don't want to be invaded by /ROG/ crossposters.

http://pastebin.com/uRtLZJzd

>>11366561
>No undercover

Uh what, jun Takahashi has put out amazing collections why would we just randomly decide not to discuss his work, it's not like rog posters shit up this thread it's random autists who think reselling is wrong and people like king Solomon who despite being a yohji fan for years still dresses like shit

>>11366391
What do you think I could sell them for?

>>11366735
Fuckboys will be fuckboys. Better exclusive than inclusive.

>>11366749
Not much, women's market is very fickle, overall cheaper but sometimes pieces go for astronomical prices for really no rhyme or reason

>>11366823
Like don't get me wrong you might make your money back but it's not worth it

>>11366735
yeah this, I'm not even a fan but he's relevant here I dont see how it even relates to RO

>>11366735
feel bad for king solomon. he was having a grand old time dishing out advice and being generally well-regarded, then he made the poor decision to post a fit and it all came crumbling down

>>11366735
Sure. There's no denying his talent but also no denying that UC and RO fuccbois have a massive overlap. I've updated it:

/JDG/ is a place to discuss general Japanese designer fashion from designers such as Yohji Yamamoto, Rei Kawakubo and Junya Watanabe (Comme des Garcons), Issey Miyake, Takahiro Miyashita (TheSoloist and Number (N)ine), Jun Takahashi (Undercover), Chitose Abe (Sacai), and such. Note that we do not allow discussion of Y3 and CdG Play as this is a fuccboi-free zone. Also, no Julius as we don't want to be invaded by /ROG/ crossposters.

http://pastebin.com/3FipeC0F

Someone do a write up on him then.

>>11367080
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%AB%98%E6%A9%8B%E7%9B%BE

here's the wiki article on him

>>11366874
yeah but it wasn't good advice and anyone who thought he was good just had to look up his old Styleforum posts to learn the truth

I like King Solomon's posts :(

>>11367171
forgot your trip

>>11367172
xDD

I like King Solomon's posts :(

>>11367116
people are more easily fooled by text posts. no one is looking at those pictures and thinking "wow that's one knowledgeable yohji expert"

>>11366027
Mainly round Tokyo; I am white so ima try.

new thread
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