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/suit/ thread! Discuss suits! Wear suits! /suit/s!

Got a couple questions for you guys.
I've been wearing a charcoal two-piece suit for a while now, but it's time to don a new ensemble. I've been looking into a three-piece suit, but I'm at odds with a friend who's trying to talk me out of it, saying they're "outdated." I think they look classy and authoritative. So here are my questions:

>Are three-piece suits classic or outdated?
>Can a younger guy wear a three-piece, or will it be seen as more of a "costume" unless taken up by a more mature wearer?
>Can a three-piece be worn without the waistcoat, or is the deep-neckline going to look out of place?

>> No.11111784

You're thinking too much about it. Three pieces are fine. The most important thing by far, as with anything else, is that it fits you.

>> No.11111796

>>11111579
Is this you, OP?

Those are all too tight around the midsection. Didn't bother to look at the rest.

Just saying.

>> No.11111807

>>11111784
Right, just wanted to make sure it wasn't a quick-dying trend I was buying into. Thanks for your honesty anon.

>>11111796
Nah, not me, just a random picture I pulled off Google to start a thread with that seemed to compare two and three piece suits.

>> No.11111808

>>11111796
obviously a professional model, but yeah, all those suits are too small

OP, three pieces are overly formal these days and look tryhard outside of a proper occasion. Three piece was trendy for a few years in the mid 2000's (think JT future sex era) but that's over now. Two piece looks better for general wear.

>> No.11111874

>>11111579
>I think they look classy and authoritative.
they will go fine with your fedora

>> No.11112060

>>11111874
LMFAO

>> No.11112310

>>11112060
plz try to contain your autism

>> No.11112321

>>11111579

Slightly on topic question: are all these fashion photo suits too tight in the mid section to try to accentuate the stereotypical v shape?

>> No.11112322

>>11112321
it's because they use bulldog clips on the back to give the illusion of a tailored and fitted look when really it's not and actually looks pretty bad

physique of the model is one thing, fashion trickery is the other

>> No.11112335

>>11112322


Well I knew it was trickery of a sort. I didn't ask how they got the effect I asked why. They could get the same effect wearing mis tailored suits like I thought but the question is why? Are they trying to create more illusion of a v taper or?

>> No.11112340

>>11112335
he already answered that
it's to make the suit appear more tailored to the model's body instead of the formless sack it probably is

>> No.11112342

>>11111579

>Don a new ensemble

Take off your fedora and burn it.

> authoritative

Hahahaha no one has ever felt an emotion towards you other than disgust, pity, and amusement at how disgustingly pitiful you are

>> No.11112344

>>11112340

Where did "he" answer that? And how do I already know you are he?

>> No.11112432
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11112432

I wouldn't recommend going for a 3p-suit unless you live in a cold environment and- or have a very formal job.

Yes, a 3p-suit can be worn without the waistcoat, there's no problem there.

>> No.11112459

three piece suits are outdated and look like shit

>> No.11112461

Will 80's/90's oversized suits ever come back into fashion?

>> No.11112668

>>11112342
>Hahahaha no one has ever felt an emotion towards you other than disgust, pity, and amusement at how disgustingly pitiful you are

you're projecting again, anon

>> No.11112678

>>11112432
Best actual response to OP's questions in show

>> No.11112679

>>11111579
Do whatever just don't wear an Hermes buckle with a suit, please.

>> No.11112795
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>>11112342

>> No.11113373

>>11112432
So aside from having to pay for an extra garment, is there really a downside to getting a three piece? If it can be worn without the waistcoat, doesn't it just offer the ability to dress up a level, if the occasion called for it?

>> No.11113380

>>11112461
"no"

>> No.11113445

>>11112461
Hopefully not

>> No.11113966
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>>11113373
I guess the downside would be that you'd be tempted to use it more often than not, considering how very few people who dress in suits actually know how to dress well, and you end up looking like the tards that /fa/ often makes fun of.

>> No.11114084

>>11113373
If you use it too often without the waistcoat, the rest of the suit will become of a slightly different color.
At that point, you won't be able to use it as a single suit anymore, it would be too obvious.
You'll have a 2-p and an orphan suit vest, impossible (or just very hard, if you took some precautions when you bought it) to use in other fits.

>> No.11114102

What color suit should I buy for medical school interviews? Also, what color shoes should I buy?

>> No.11114114

>>11114102
Navy, brown shoes, keep the tie and square in the green/blues

>> No.11114119
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11114119

Here's one of mine. Work in insurance but we wear suits at the office.

>> No.11114125

>>11111579

to answer your question, all of us wear 3 piece suits at the office. you look like a boss. what is your reason for wearing a suit? if you where it for work definitely consider a 3 piece... just make sure its tailored properly and you know how to knot your tie, and you will stand out amongst the other plebs at the office.

>> No.11114156

>>11114114
Thanks bro

>> No.11114170

>>11114125
I don't wear it for work, but I wear it once per week for religious activities, as well as to weddings, funerals, etc.

Also, I got the knot business covered ;)

>> No.11114186

Are pocket-squares tacky, or are they woman-wowing if chosen properly?

>> No.11114353

>>11114186
People go fucking crazy about pocket squares, they fuckin love it

>> No.11114598
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11114598

I have a black suit and a grey suit. I got them both online just this month for job interviews (I bought like 5 suits and returned 3 that didn't fit).

Here is the grey one; it is Michael Kors brand and cost $250. I must be the exact same body type as the model because it fits me pretty damn well for having zero adjustments done.

I guess you would call it a "standard" fit

>> No.11114611

>>11114598
Get those trousers tailored mate. Make you look like a child.
Jacket fits a little large too.

>> No.11114613

>>11114186
They're classic. Just make sure they're different from your tie. White linen goes with everything.

Pick them up in the centre, smooth down, bend in half, and stuff it into your pocket either end up. That's the carefree way to do it. Complex folds are tryhard.

>> No.11114618

>>11114598
>those pants

JUST

>> No.11114627

>>11114598
truthfully, i dont think it fits you well.

>> No.11114640
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>>11114598

Kurz pls go and stay gone

>> No.11114680

>>11114613
Agreed 100% with this post.

I loathe fancy pocket squares with a passion but pretty much live with a simple folded linen square daily.

>> No.11114817

>>11114611
>>11114627

Well I did say I've had zero adjustments done. If I pull the pants up a half an inch, all the wrinkles down to my shins go away, and the pants stay up there

What should I do about the jacket? I agree it might be a little big, mostly in that the shoulders/chest are too broad. How much does it usually cost to fix that kind of thing with tailoring?

sorry i'm still in college and completely new to suits. It fits well enough that I can run in it easily, at least

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11115108

are suspenders with your suit acceptable or was that just an 80s thing?

>> No.11115122
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11115122

Get on my level, lads.

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>>11115122
Saved for cringe.
Pic related, something else completely asinine that was posted on /fa/ seriously.

>> No.11115152

>>11115122
>"Oh honey, you look so handsome dressed up!"

try again

>> No.11115370

>>11115108
Only if you're wearing them under a waistcoat.

>> No.11115842
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11115842

this is now a manlet suit thread

support fellow manlets

4'1 and under ONLY

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>>11115842
just trollin for sharts and gaggles but that was Black Lapel

this one is Indochino

>> No.11116499

>>11115122
Please tell me you are baiting

if not

you fucked up in every way possible

>> No.11116511

>>11115850

not too bad if you are on your way to a Young Republicans meetup

>> No.11116514
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>> No.11116516

>>11114817
>shoulders
can't be done. you could add some padding, or work out a bit.

>> No.11116518

>>11114119
omg those shoes, pls kill yourself.

>> No.11116526

>>11115122
Sew your colors on the back of the jacket.
It's the only way it's going to work.

>> No.11116532

>>11111579

>wearing an Hermes 'H' belt with a suit

Absolutely disgusting!

>> No.11116658

>>11116511
:^)

>> No.11116871

>>11115850
this one fits nice

>> No.11116902

>>11111579
most of these are pretty terribad
>>11114119
tailor those pants,those break look awful and buy some black shoes
>>11114598
same,full break looks bad on this
>>11115122
godawful
>>11115850
sleeve looks too long,and bracelets looks faggy
>>11116514
looks nice by the looks of it

>> No.11116970

>>11116902
>looks nice by the looks of it

Danks mane, first suit.

Waiting on two more that'll fit better. One charcoal and one light grey, both will be slightly less formal with patch pockets and won't be in a s1xx-wool.

>> No.11117191

I got some Brooks Brothers and even a J.Crew seersucker suit but I'm fat by /fa/ standards, but they fit super nice, Brooks suits need the more alterations but like half of them were included with the price tag.

>> No.11117328

What's a good suit for slightly formal parties for a 19 y/o? I hate bossiness casual, but I want something that looks like a suit without being a 'suit' suit if you get what I'm saying

>> No.11117345
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>>11117328
A sport coat and khakis could work.

>> No.11117504

>>11113966
>considering how very few people who dress in suits actually know how to dress well, and you end up looking like the tards that /fa/ often makes fun of.
this

best not to risk it, faggots

just don't be poor
be handsome
be fit but not full-retard fit (ottermode at the very most)
get your shit bespoke

done

if you are not able to do the above, just go to mens warehouse and buy a sack suit like everyone else in your social class

>> No.11117509

>>11114156
that's horrible advice

charcoal suit
black shoes

fucking fedora mong even mentions a pocket square and that alone should've tipped you off to disregard his post automatically

>> No.11117541

>>11117509
The tie/square part was just plain wrong, but how is a navy suit bad for an interview?

>> No.11117778

>>11117541
>but how is a navy suit bad for an interview?
it's not
the brown shoes was the retarded part

>> No.11117798

>>11114640
Basti ist auf /fa/? Lessig

>> No.11117876

>>11117345
Jeez I don't want to look like that

>> No.11117886
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11117886

Daily reminder that if you don't want to look like a retard, just buy a suit like pic related.

Most people won't bat an eye and'll just see it as any other suit. If you try to go with that super tight shit and don't do it perfectly (which most people never get) you'll look like a retard.

>> No.11117891

>>11117886
>Daily reminder that if you don't want to look like a retard, just buy a suit like pic related.
but anon that guy legit looks mongloidal

>> No.11117894

>>11117891
We're just talking about the suit he's wearing, not the fact that his mother probably drank 12 beers and smoked 2 packs of cigarettes a day when she was pregnant with him.

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>>11117886
that suit fits like shit

>> No.11118465

>>11117504
>get your shit bespoke
>if you are not able to do the above, just go to mens warehouse and buy a sack suit like everyone else in your social class

I'm tne guy you're quoting, but I gotta say that statements like the above are fucking ridiculous. There are extremely few people on this board who can afford MTM, let alone full bespoke.

There is nothing wrong with buying OTR or MTM because in many cases, unless you have a really weird body, you should be able to find a producer that offers high quality suits that fit you really well OTR that only need minor alterations to fit you perfectly.

>> No.11118965

I've got suit jackets but none that really feels formal, one is an anatomical one by LeU and another is a one button casual by LUC.

Australian sources/brands for good suiting? Preferrably under 800 suit and pants not including tailoring

>> No.11119241

>>11111579

>fell for the skinny suit meme.

For fucks sake, find a decent made to measure or bespoke option if you can afford it and get non fashion blog bullshit skinny suits.

>> No.11119335

>>11114119

Brand?

>> No.11119590

>>11117345
car salesman core

>> No.11119598

>>11116514
Would not wear cutaway collar (ever at any time) but other than that this is a good fit.

>>11117345
Pretty sure I saw this guy on Saved By The Bell reruns?

>> No.11119607

>>11118465
>There are extremely few people on this board who can afford MTM, let alone full bespoke.
Nah mane, a good MTM jacket costs as much as two pair of some of these faggoty sneaks people are paying too much for. Less than a Brooks suit because they trade on brand recognition real hard. Practically anyone can afford MTM and it's so much better in terms of results.

Bespoke tho, yeah. That's a different ballgame.

>> No.11119616

>>11119607
i don't know about you folks but top tier bespoke here goes for 1k,and they give out those boxes with pocket square,tie,cuffs and shit for 250 dollaros plus
would definitely get one if i'm not a plebian whose still saving up,so i'm good with off the rack for now

>> No.11119804

>>11119616
>i don't know about you folks but top tier bespoke here goes for 1k
highly unlikely that it's from scratch bespoke

it's far, far more likely to be just another mtm jobbie, a more comprehensive mtm job, but ultimately patterned mtm all the same

eg. all the tailored suits people can get in SEA: most are crap, but the few that can produce something decent aren't bespoke, but mtm using premade canvases or halfcanvases if they use them at all

real bespoke is rare and is not available under 1k$US

>> No.11119835

>>11119804
there's a huge wad of selection of texture as far as i know,my friend bought a cashmere blend grey suit,crisp material,superb finishing and it has a deep emergence on the lapel
not saville row tier,but definitely worth the penny for it

>> No.11119958

>>11117345
I kind of like that, with some caveats
>the jacket should fit better.
>looks bland as fuck. can you do something more out-there for trou and shoes? it's a party, ffs!
>tie on a button down, tie at a party. why?

>> No.11119968
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11119968

Just came back from a fitting for an overcoat I ordered a couple months ago, was extremely nervous about how the fabric I chose from those tiny samples you get to see would translate into a coat. It turned out absolutely fantastic though, really looking forward to taking it home in a couple of weeks.

So happy with my purchase!

>>11119598
I don't get the hate cutaway collars receive on this board. Personally I like it when the shirt collar rolls under the jacket lapel, not leaving a gap between them as you so often see. I guess it's a matter of taste, though.

>>11119607
Having enough money to spend on something doesn't necessarily mean you can afford it. And most people would rather not pay $1500+ for a suit.

And how well a MTM/bespoke suit fits depends largely on how good the person taking the measurements is. I've had OTR suits that fit better than MTM ones.

>>11119835
How many options when it comes to fabrics has nothing to do with a suit being bespoke. A bespoke suit is a suit that is cut entirely to your measurements and is unique in that sense, and you go through a fitting/period called "baste" in which the suit is stitched together very loosely so that major changes can be made (pic related). As opposed to a MTM suit where, after you've taken the measurements, selected the fabric and some details you get it mostly finished with only some minor alterations being made (taking in the back, shortening the sleeves etc.).

I have enough money to be able to buy a bespoke suit without it affecting my daily life at all, but I probably never will because it simply costs too much.

>> No.11120034

>going to rain today
>warm enough to not really need a coat
>only own a winter topcoat
should i wear my winter coat to protect my suit in the rain today? i don't think an umbrella will protect my suit very well from getting wet

or am i supposed to own a large umbrella that can shield all my clothes from getting wet?

>thinking of not wearing my suit at all and going business casual

>> No.11120036

>>11115850
I this suit tailored? How tall are you which size? Looks great

>> No.11120435

>>11115850
underage/10

>> No.11120464

>>11120034
Get a Mac coat. Usually simple cut and sometimes cotton-blend with a water resistant coating. Should be longer than your suit jacket and the sleeves past your suit & shirt sleeves. I got mine for $15 last July at a clearance event. Blue like my first suit, can't go wrong there.

>> No.11120481

>>11119968
can I ask who your tailor is? I'd love to get an overcoat but mtm I've been to aren't too good. BNtailor is an option if a little pricey though

>> No.11120537
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>>11120481
I used a tailor here in Stockholm, called Saman Amel.

The coat I ordered looks sort of like this brown one (one of their products) but without the flaps on the patch-pockets, chest pocket also being a patch-pocket, slightly lighter fabric (early and late summer tends to be quite cold here) and in the fabric (from British Ariston, I think) pictured next to it.

B&Tailor also make amazing products, would love a suit from them.

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11120744

Alright, so aides from pants being a tad long, and flat colored tie, anything else bad with this?

>> No.11120773

>>11120744
Red and black is hideous, so skip the tie.

Also, skip the vest. If you wear everything like that, you'll look like a waiter at some cheap restaurant. Never wear a vest without the matching jacket.

>> No.11120798

>>11120773

I think this applies to black only, also assuming that the waistcoat is part of a suit int he first place. You can tell from >>11120744 that the waistcoat is not from the same cut as the trousers (lack of pinstripe).

I have a tartan and a brown tweed waistcoat that I wear occasionally without a matching jacket, usually a blue blazer.

>> No.11120805

>>11119958

tie on a button down is a common american trend.

>> No.11120807

>>11117778

how is brown shoes with a navy suit retarded?

>> No.11120903

>>11120805
Maybe it's just me, but isn't it like wearing a belt and suspenders?
Both the buttons and the tie are there to keep the collar in shape, in their own way. They're redundant!

>> No.11120909

>>11120744
You're wearing a waistcoat.
Your waistcoat is supposed to be covered by a jacket (silk back).
Tasteless tie.

The shirt is good tho, you can keep that!

>> No.11120924

>>11120903
It's sprezzatura!

No, but really, it's probably done to give off a nonchalant vibe or whatever. Either that or it's just clueless people doing their best.

>> No.11120953

>>11120924
I'd see the sprezzatura if the buttons were left open, as if saying 'I've been playing footie until 10 minutes ago, and thrown a tie on to be presentable', or ofc in an open collar look that isn't always appropriate.

>> No.11121128

>>11111579
does anyone else hate this "small suit" meme? That shit looks like the button is about to burst.

I just can't imagine how this looks nice to some people. It makes you look like you don't know how to buy a proper size.

>> No.11121135

>>11121128
So who in this thread has managed to pull it off well?

>> No.11121140

>>11114598
this has to be b8

>> No.11121148

>>11115122
HAHAHAHAHAHA
>falling for the rolled up pants meme

>> No.11121374

>>11120773
My camera's really fucky when it comes to colors, it likes to over saturate and increase contrast by a lot.
The tie is bright orange and the rest is charcoal/grey

>>11120909
I had a coat, but it was almost 90°F, so, eh.

>> No.11121773

>>11120537
How much did you pay for it man? Ive been thinking of getting one here in Milan but I think it's gonna be a bit out of my budget

>> No.11121811

>>11121773
Just a tad short of $1400. Very reasonable price compared to many other producers in my opinion, and I really love the stuff they make.

Going to order two suits from them in the next couple of months.

I don't know about Milan, but Italy in general have many good tailors so you should be able to find something in your budget there. The coat I ordered was made in Italy, but the measurements and final adjustements are made here in Stockholm.

What's your budget? I'll see/hear around if I can come up with some tailors to recommend if you want.

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11121824

When will three button suits make a comeback?

http://life.spectator.co.uk/2016/03/fasten-victim-why-will-so-few-shops-sell-me-a-three-button-suit/

>> No.11121844

>>11121811
I was looking for a coat in the 700-800 EUR price range. I'm sure the tailors here are great, what scares me is that the demand for tailored clothing is extremely high in Milan leading to higher prices

>> No.11121876

>>11121824
I already posted one, and I've seen many wear them.

Not regular 3-button suits though, but 3/2-roll ones. Much nicer, in my opinion.

>>11121844
In EUR mine cost ~1100€, so if you stretch your budget a tiny bit more you'll definitely find something.

Does it have to be MTM though? If not, you can get some pretty bitching ones from like Gaiola, Herno, Caruso, Lardini etc.

>> No.11121971

>>11121876
3/2 are 2 button suits, with a couple extra cosmetic details thrown on.
they don't count as 3 buttons!

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>>11121971
Sometimes they can really look like 3-button suit though.

>> No.11122008

>>11111579
one buttoned jacket with vest is weird
vest is really traditional and one buttoned jacket is not

>> No.11122996

>anything but Tom Ford or Zegna
lmao

>> No.11123001

>>11122996

>being this naive
lmao

>> No.11123275

>>11119616
Bro a top tier bespoke suit would be e.g. Henry Poole, which I believe still charge roughly £3500 for a two piece. Might be more desu. Anyway the other anon covered the rest real well.

>> No.11123277

>>11120537
>I used a tailor here in Stockholm, called Saman Amel.
Ever tried George? Is he any good?

>> No.11123286

>>11119968
>I don't get the hate cutaway collars receive on this board. Personally I like it when the shirt collar rolls under the jacket lapel, not leaving a gap between them as you so often see. I guess it's a matter of taste, though.
It's the shape of the collar. The cutaway in itself looks ridiculous. I agree it looks better with the points covered by the lapel (it's not a roll, that would mean the points were curling over), but any ordinary classic collar will do that if the shirtmaker's decent and the gorge isn't cut really weird. Only a button-down or an extreme point collar doesn't, really.

>>11120744
On that note, you really shouldn't be letting your collar lie over the waistcoat like that. Points go under the waistcoat, always.

>> No.11123296

>>11120903
>Both the buttons and the tie are there to keep the collar in shape, in their own way. They're redundant!
Kek, every bit of this is silly.
No, man. The tie isn't a collar-shaper at all, that's madness. Who told you that? The tie is an evolved cravat, a decoration and nothing more. Button-downs have been standard for US businessmen for like 100 years and I guarantee you they wear ties to the office.

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>>11123277
Do you mean georgefashions.se?

I've never had any experience with them, because frankly, ~1000€ for a bespoke suit in 50%wool/50% cashmere, in Sweden, is just too good to be true.

For that price you can get one from Saman Amel's cheapest line (fully canvassed, no hand-sewn details though) that I'm very much interested in trying out soon.

>>11123286
I'm aware that there's no actual roll in them, it's just a saying. And most of the time when you see images of someone with a classic collar, you'll immediately notice a gap between lapels and shirt collar.

I guess this >>11121824 picture illustrates what I mean.

I just don't find it a good look.

>> No.11123328

>>11123313
Yeah, George Fashions. I don't think it's bespoke, though, it's MTM, isn't it? The only bespoke guys in Sweden are A.W. Bauer AFAIK.

Your overcoat seemed a bit pricey btw. In London you can get one MTM for £550.

I guess this >>11121824 picture illustrates what I mean.
Those guys are wearing unfused 30s point collars though. When I said "classic" collar I meant the half-cutaway that's standard on modern shirts. Still, fair enough, it's a matter of taste. The ridiculous shape of cutaways is why they get hate here and elsewhere, was all I meant to say initially. That almost horizontal splay, oy...

>> No.11123346
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>>11123328
They market themselves by saying they sell bespoke ("skräddarsytt" in Swedish) suits and shirts. They also claim that their products are done entirely from scratch, without any pre-made forms.

You're right though, A.W. Bauer are the only ones in Sweden who actually offer bespoke, and their suits start at 3000€+, as a comparison.

And are you sure that you can get a MTM overcoat for that price? The material alone probably costs ~300-400€, fully canvassing it another 200-300€, then you pay for time etc.

£550 seems extremely cheap (about the same price you pay for an unconstructed cotton coat from Boglioli) and I'd be very skepctical about the quality of those coats.

>>11123328
>The ridiculous shape of cutaways is why they get hate here and elsewhere

Fair enough, m'man! Maybe it's just a regional preference? Cutaway collars seem popular here in Sweden and in Italy.

>> No.11123362
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Here's a custom jacket a tailor made for me. Probably fedora tier but I enjoy the style. It has a half belt on the.back. It was also more like testing waters but I think he did a good job.
He deafts a personal pattern and makes the jacket both by hand and machine. I think parts of the collar are done by hand and so are all the buttonholes. It's also fully canvassed. Overall not a bad deal for 800 bucks. Any fault with the styling is on me.

>> No.11123365

>>11123346
>are you sure that you can get a MTM overcoat for that price?
Yeah, because that's what I paid. A buddy of mine who lives in London tipped me off about a guy named David Saxby who does them.

I won't swear it's fully canvassed (I wouldn't know how to tell, to be honest), but it's well cut, to my specs, with high quality cloth. It's definitely better than any OTR coat I've ever seen.

>Maybe it's just a regional preference? Cutaway collars seem popular here in Sweden and in Italy.
In case you hadn't figured it out yet, I'm a Swefag too. Varför skulle jag annars känna till George och Bauer?

>> No.11123373

>>11123362
Very British.

I'm personally not a big fan of the shoulders or the flaps on the pockets, but otherwise it looks pretty good. I like the clothe.

>>11123365
I'd guess it's half-canvassed. Again, simply because I'm skeptical with regards to the price.

That's not very important though, it's more of a luxury. As long as you're happy with it and it fits well, that's what matters the most!

And yeah, I figured you were from Sweden. Fjollträsket? Let's meet up and fight. I'll probably get my manlet ass handed to me, but whatev'.

>> No.11123382

>>11123362
I'm not a patch pocket man myself, but this is classic countrywear. Solid.

>>11123373
I'm not foolish enough to post location on 4chan, alas.

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>>11123373
Yeah, I think the shoulders are a lil bit built up. I think on the next project I'll ask for slightly narrower shoulders. The flaps I understand aren't for everyone. The fabric is nice

>> No.11123388

you are NOT effay you monkey suited corporate houseniggers

>> No.11123402

>>11123382
>I'm not foolish enough to post location on 4chan, alas.

Fair dues, m'man.

>>11123389
Again, I'm digging the tweed. And the pick-stitching (got a subtle pick-stitching on the overcoat I ordered, nice little detail that makes it that much more relaxed).

The shoulder is just a personal preference as I'm more into soft, natural shoulders. I just think they feel extremely comfortable, like putting on a cardigan or getting a hug from someone you love. Slightly more padded ones to tend to look better on typical British jackets though, especially tweed ones.

>>11123388
no u

>> No.11123448

>>11123389
>Yeah, I think the shoulders are a lil bit built up.
Honestly, I (>>11123382 here) think they should look that way. The structured shoulder's classic British style tailoring, and a tweed piece should look like British countrywear. It's like the half-belt or anything, it's a feature of the style.

>> No.11123622

>>11123388
I-I think it's trying to communicate!

>> No.11124226

>>11123622
It's Mexican, cut it some slack.

>> No.11124307

>>11123346
>>11123328
>>11123313
>>11121811
>>11120537
Speaking of Stockholm
Has anyone had any experience with Suitopia? They also make custom suits but you guys are talking about €1000 being a very good price and Suitopia are about 2000sek or $250

>> No.11124423

>>11124307
I don't have any experience with them, but as with most things, you get what you pay for. And 2000 SEK won't even be enough to get a pair of bespoke gloves from Hestra - just to give a funny indication of what you could expect from Suitopia.

If you can stretch your budget slightly, you really should take a look at SuitSupply instead. For ~$300 you'd get a half-canvassed suit in a good material, as opposed to shit construction and shit material.

>> No.11124434

The biggest problem with suits is that too many autists think that any badly fitted, cheap suit is in style. Dont be the faggot uni student that shows up to friday morning lecture in a three piece suit. Personally I've been thinking about rocking a blue jacket with charcoal pants for my next event (university banquet). Thoughts?

>> No.11124452

>>11124423
It's not really an "important" event or anything business, just a prom so quality isn't exactly the first priority
My brother did the same from Suitopia and from the pictures he had it looks pretty good in fit
I suppose SuitSupply isn't based in Sweden? I can get my measures in store in Suitopia so that's good

>> No.11124461

>>11124434
Do you have a fit with it?

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>>11124434
I'm not sure about the charcoal pants, I'd rather go for mid grey or light grey depending on the colour of the jacket.

Blue and grey is a classic combo though, can't really go wrong with it.

>>11124452
It can be a good idea to get a suit that you can use more than just for prom though, in which case a better quality suit would be much more fitting.

SuitSupply hasn't opened up their store in Sweden yet, but they offer free shipping and returns so you can order several sizes and send the ones that don't fit back.

If you're happy with Suitopia though, go for it.

>> No.11124481

>>11124474
The thing is that I'm only 5'10" and skinny so almost every off the rack-suit is pretty long in the sleves so it would probably be better to get a "custom" measures one with the right sleves from the start, otherwise I would have to get it hemmed anyways

>> No.11124497

>>11124481
>only 5'10

haha fuck you :(

When do you have your prom? If there's no rush yet, I would really opt for SS, considering their suits are quite slim in design.

>> No.11124519

>>11124481
Off the rack always has longer sleeves and no waist suppression, you're supposed to tailor it to make it fit.
As long as the shoulders and collar fit properly, you're g2g,

IDK how prom works, but would jacket+chinos be ok? you'll use it a lot more afterwards, and can focus just on one item when buying.

>> No.11124521

suits are for big ol nerds

>> No.11124533

>>11124497
Haha sorry man, many of my friends are 6"3' and over

It's somewhere between 1st of June and 10th of June
But I feel like a black suit isn't really as versatile in an actual professional environment, and is more formal so when I need a different colour, I will definitely get a higher quality one

>> No.11124537

>>11124519
No, jacket and chinos will look nasty. I always need like an inch or two in the sleves so it feels like the buttons are getting messed up when the cuff is getting so close

>> No.11124576

>>11124537
It WILL mess up any working cuff, sure, but that's it. It's the most common jacket alteration, the tailor will know how to make it look right.

A more casual ensemble will look like ass if everybody is in black tie. If that's the case, you'll want a decent, well fitting suit. Probalby dark grey? A black suit will lie unused while you'll keep growing, it would be a waste, charcoal, you might use for some interviews or events.

>> No.11124595

>>11124576
Yeah dark charcoal might be an option but I'll have to see the fabric in store

>> No.11124611
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Tweed jacket guy here. Are any of these good suiting fabric? I was planning on commissioning a DB zoot

>> No.11124621

>>11124611
The dark green one looks pretty rad.

>> No.11124633
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Here's some other fabrics that caught my eye but they looi more like sportcoat fabrics

>> No.11124697

>>11124633
Dark green, moss green and that blue that sticks out are pretty cool.

Not sure I'd make a suit out of them though.

>> No.11124714

>>11124576
Or actually, my date has a blue dress so would it look good with a dark navy suit?

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Best?

>> No.11124743

>>11124733
Either obama or the #nextlevel fashion week goer that is 7

>> No.11124759

>>11124714
Yes.

http://eu.suitsupply.com/sv/suits/napoli-bla-fiskbensmonstrad/P4290N.html?cgid=Suits

2700 SEK, herringbone patterned navy suit.

http://eu.suitsupply.com/sv/suits/napoli-bla-enfargad/P3753.html?cgid=Suits

2700 SEK, navy plain suit.

Both would look good and are within your budget. Considering you're 5'10 you should have no problem finding a size that fits, since they're quite slim.

>>11124733
#1. Everything else is pure shit. But they're all politicians, so you can't expect more from them. It rubs people the wrong way when politicians dress really well in expensive Italian suits.

>> No.11124786

>>11124759

>1 button jacket good
>not choosing 7

>> No.11124789

>>11124786
I'm not saying it's good, it's just less shit than the other ones.

>> No.11124814

>>11119968
What was the price to do this?

>> No.11124837

>>11124814
~1100€ or ~$1400 if that's your thang.

>> No.11125327

look for a pair of dress shoes on the cheap, will probably be used once or twice but i just need something that looks ok

>> No.11125588

>want to buy new suit from outlet store of a high-end retailer
>last year in May the store had a sale, 2 suits for $1k ($200-$600 savings as most suits are $600-$800)
should i wait to see if the sale comes back? or buy a suit now?

i only own one nice suit, and want to increase my suit options

>> No.11126240
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>>11125327
Herringshoes or Loake.

Get a pair of Oxfords.

Black if it's for a really formal event or a funeral, otherwise dark brown is the best choice if you're looking for the most versatile shoe.

>>11125588
Unless you're in a hurry and have a tight budget, wait for the next opportunity. Especially if you fit into 46+ sizes since there is usually a few of them around even during sale times.

>> No.11126264

>>11125588
Never pay full price for retail, and check which local tailors will work for 800.

>> No.11126269

>>11124611
>>11124633
Hard to say from just looking at them, you don't test cloth by sight but by hand.

>> No.11126274

>>11126269
If there isn't a huge difference in quality, would you choose the fabric that looks better or the one that feels better?

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>>11124759
Actually might go for the Napoli in dark grey instead
Thoughts?

>> No.11126361

What suit colours should you have in your wardrobe? I just have greys because I think they look nicer than straight black but thinking about a blue as well

>> No.11126383

>>11124474
I dont know anything about suits or the style in general, what kind of pants are those?

>> No.11126385

Any recommendations for a good women's tailor in NYC or NJ? I don't know the area but will be moving there later this year. Hoping to get away with spending $2k on a suit but can go a bit higher if necessary.

>> No.11126388

>>11126347
It's a matter of preference.

If you like the dark grey more, go for it.

>>11126383
Raw denim. Looks like flannel though.

>> No.11126393

>>11126383
>>11126388
Not raw denim, it's like a more casual suit pant with a bit woolier surface

>> No.11126398

>>11126361
What do you need a suit for?
Job interviews only? Navy.
Marriages & funerals? Black.
More than that? You'll have more than one anyway, so go crazy.

>> No.11126401

>>11126361
Navy, grey and brown are a staple.

I currently only have a navy one >>11116514 but will be ordering a light grey and dark grey one in a couple of months with that sweet, sweet tax refund, from the same tailor that I ordered >>11120537

>>11126385
NYC should offer just about anything, but I'm not really that good when it comes to women's clothing. I know that Lardini and Boglioli make suits for women though, you could always check them out if you have that option.

>>11126393
It says raw denim on their instagram though.

https://www.instagram.com/samanamel/

>> No.11126405

/r/ing facebook caps of that autist who wears nothing but suits

>> No.11126411

>>11126398
Not that guy, but I prefer to wear a suit in order to distinguish myself from the hoi polloi.

>> No.11126428

>>11126411
if you need a costume to separate yourself from the chaff, then you are chaff.
consider keeping to the costume, and wear the classic joker suit, purple jacket over purple striped pants.

>> No.11126861

>>11113966
this is a really fucking nice suit, balanced lapel width and perfect fit

>> No.11126878
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>>11117886
that suit fits like shit, though

more boxy cuts work just fine but the shoulders still need to fucking fit

>> No.11126888

>>11120798
>>11120773
Waistcoat without jacket is dangerous and, especially in pinstripe or black/charcoal, looks like you left your jacket on a chair somewhere and forgot it was there. Self-backed vests and less "serious business" fabrics help a lot. Tweed lends itself well to a jacketless vest look, as does glen plaid or most linen.

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>>11123362
I'm not a fan of how huge that pocket flap is on the chest pocket. Any pictures of the back? I love good half-belts and was thinking of getting one similar to pic related.

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>>11126897
Here you go. I was originally gonna get a pleated back like that one but he advised against it because the pattern wasn't subtle enough and it would mess up the lines on the back. But yeah, it's a cool style. Very sporty and unique nowadays

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>>11126240
any other brands/models similar to pic related?

>> No.11126928

>>11126910
Good, you went with the long vent. One of my peeves with OTR halfbelts is that they often truncate the vent oddly for some reason, even though the belt is such a natural place to end it. Yours looks good, and the belt is well made.

>> No.11126948

>>11126915
Yes, hundreds.

>> No.11126979
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>>11113966
yum

>> No.11127016

>>11126979
Not 100% sold on the pants/shoes interaction

>> No.11127020

>>11126861
It's from Eidos Napoli.

>>11126915
Carmina, Yanko, Carlos Santo, SuitSupply etc.

>> No.11128053

>>11127016
wut?

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Sweet. My new fabric came today. It's dark brown tweed with a subtle red windowpane

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>> No.11129191

>get tailoured suit
>live in regional area
>never get to wear it
>people don't wear suits to the races
>or weddings
>I wore just the jacket out to a cocktail bar
>waitress asked me if I was just at a wedding
>date got drunk and asked if I was "an upper class person"

kill me

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is james rossiter effay?

>> No.11129693

>>11128053
There is no break

>> No.11129825

>>11129403
Everything looks too small.

>>11129693
That's how many people like it.

Looks retarded when it breaks.

>> No.11130057

>>11129403

>textured shirt under tuxedo

nooooooooooooooooooooo

>> No.11130481

>>11130057
That jacket is like 3 inches too short, man.

Looks like a ripe faggot.

>> No.11130839

is it true that black suits are only for weddings/funerals or is it one of those rules only autists care about?

>> No.11130862

>>11130839
Black suit's aren't even for those, a dark charcoal is acceptable for a funeral, and black would look odd at a wedding. Black suits are for g men. Stick to charcoal or navy.

>> No.11130865

>>11111579

>the waistcoat is tucked in
>they all have a triangle of shirt showing

What the fuck? Is this like an example of how not to wear a 3 piece or what?

>> No.11130867

>>11130862
>Black suits are for g men
okay this seems silly

>> No.11130874

>>11130839
It's pretty much true.

You can get away with wearing a black pinstripe or chalkstripe suit at work if you're 30+ and quite successful, but other than that, I'd avoid black. It's just hard to match it with anything other than white, which makes it extremely formal and also quite boring.

And like the other anon said, black for wedding is stupid. There are tons of other choices that would look so much better.

>> No.11130890

>>11130839
Generally. Although black suits outside of weddings/funerals is more of a European thing

>> No.11130892

>>11130867
Admittedly I'm in a job where the conventions for suits are still quite traditional, lots of double breasted and pinstripes.

Problem with black suits is unless the are very high quality they can look cheap, and a bit stark if worn in the daytime. Fine if you can pull off the reservoir dogs anonymous thrift shop look, but you risk looking like you got your suit from tesco.

Again, charcoal or navy.

>> No.11130896

Best suit I've ever owned is by Hugo Boss. The fit is just perfect for me and the quality is fantastic

>> No.11130897

>>11130890
It definitely isn't.

>> No.11130899
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>>11130892
is this charcoal?
website says black but it doesn't look really black

>> No.11130906

>>11130896
>Hugo Boss
>fantastic quality

lmao yeah, glued construction in questionable materials is fantastic alright, fantastically shit

>>11130899
If it says black, it's black, numbnuts.

Products can look much different online that in real life for a variety of reasons: lighting, bad camera, your screen etc.

>> No.11130907

>>11130890
It's more of a not even in Europe thing, really.

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>>11130899
Trust the written description over the picture, cloth can look very different from being seen in person to a picture on a laptop.

>> No.11130916

>>11120744
What's the point of a tie bar if you're going to place it down by your waist?
Tie bars should always go between the 3rd and 4th button of your shirt

>> No.11131026

>>11126979
What's the deal with that lapel pin chain

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All right /fa/, I need to buy my first suit. I'm looking for something navy blue. I was looking at Macy's Bar III and getting it tailored because it's really cheap and looks decent, but should I look at BB instead? If so, can I get recommendations for a specific model/style?

Thanks.

>> No.11131139

>>11131084
I'd look at these >>11124759 instead. >>11124759

>> No.11131149
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>>11131139
>napoli blue plain
>out of stock

>> No.11131165

>>11131149
There are others like it, and the herringbone one is better in my opinion.

>> No.11131235 [DELETED] 

>>11114598

-get the pants tailored to be slimmer and shorter
-please get different shoes
-the coat may be one size too big in the chest/shoulders, but the length is fine

>> No.11131244
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anyone know where i can get this jacket?

>> No.11131252

>>11131084

I have that exact same suit. It's awesome.

It comes relatively slim, but if you're a skellington, then you'll need it tailored even more.

>> No.11131255

>>11131252

Also I should mention that it isn't navy blue, it's dark blue. Slightly less formal.

>> No.11131291

>>11131255
Thanks for the info. Is dark blue really less formal than navy blue?

>> No.11131908

HACKETT
SUITSUPPLY
REISS
RICHARD JAMES
JCREW LUDLOW

KAMAKURA SHIRTS
EMMA WILLIS

>> No.11131938

>>11131255
which one is the slightly darker blue?

>> No.11132465

>>11126274
Kinda forgot about this thread...

>If there isn't a huge difference in quality, would you choose the fabric that looks better or the one that feels better?
This is a wack question. If one fabric has a better hand that pretty much means it *is* better quality. Nine times out of ten, anyway. That's what I meant by "you don't test by sight but by hand", the quality of a cloth is estimated by things like its texture, weight, drape. Anyone can dye a cloth in any color and any shit can be woven in a pattern, so these aren't useful measures -- the main thing to look for by sight is stuff like weave tightness, surface -- essentially things that assist you in judging its hand.

With tweeds especially, tweed sport coats doubly so, you see a lot of sellers using really flimsy fashion tweeds which don't last and which don't have the right tweed feel at all, thin, goofy shit with the drape of cardboard. This is the case even for "high-end" retailers in places like Jermyn Street. I guess this is fine if you don't mind spending hundreds on the season's fashion fit, but if you want a quality tweed suit or jacket, you need to go way past that tier and learn something about cloth. A good tailor is gold for this, stay on good terms with your fucking tailor. Can't stress this enough.

>> No.11132702

What's the difference between Made to Measure and bespoke

>> No.11132719

>>11132702
bespoke has one more step, trying on the unfinished suit for more precise adjustments.

>> No.11132745

>>11132702
>>11132719
No. A big difference is that in Made To Measure the tailor modifies an existing pattern to match your need. In bespoke everything is created from scratch, including making a personal pattern to suit your body.

>> No.11133119

I need black dress shoes preferably something without a pointed toe what should I get?

>> No.11133669

>>11132465
No, it isn't a 'wack' question, you're just misunderstanding it.

Would you choose a fabric that is slightly superior in quality but dyed in a pattern that is ugly as fuck or would you go for the slightly less superior one that looks just like you want?

If you go to a reputable tailor, chances are that even their low-end fabrics aren't exactly bad, so why would anyone be so stupid as to choose a wool from Loro Piana in yellow that they hate over some wool in a navy glencheck that they really love from some unknown brand, just because it 'feels better'?

And the guy you originally replied to were showing fabrics from the same bunch, so they're probably of equal quality and all he wanted to know was which we prefer.

>> No.11134276

>>11132745
Bespoke suits are also typically entirely hand-sewn. MTM is machine-stitched except for some details in the better cases.

>> No.11134369

>>11114119
Get black shoes.

>> No.11134378

>>11116514
Hands out of pockets. It looks childish, and more importantly, it'll crease your suit.

>> No.11134383

>>11120773
>Red and black is hideous, so skip the tie.
The colour of that tie is off, but red and black doesn't always look bad.

>>11120744
You need a jacket. Look at your waistcoat's back.

>> No.11134503

What color of shirts would fit a dark skinned male using black fitted trousers, need 6 colors
Thinkin in white, grey,light blue, but dunno about the others

>> No.11134511

>>11134503
4 light blue, one white, one navy.

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>>11134276
Typically, it's the canvassing that's hand-sewn as well as a few seams on the lining and the buttonholes. It doesn't make sense either financially or quality-wise to hand-sew the quarters of the jacket together, or any seam where you need a straight or slightly curved line of lock-stitches. Machines do better work than hands there. Cheaper jackets will have the canvassing machine-stitched to the back of the lapels.

>> No.11134693

>>11134503
1 white
1 white/blue stripe
1 white/grey stripe or check
2 light blue
1 pink

>> No.11134857

>>11123362
taking cues from German army?

maybe some smaller sleeves

>> No.11134859

>>11131244
frock coat for marriage

>> No.11134866

>>11131244
those fucking pants and lack of bowtie ruined the fit

>> No.11134970

Would any of you gamble on a custom made suit from aliexpress for $112? Apparently they take your measurements and make you a suit.

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/C/2046453649.html

>> No.11134990

>>11134970
It's sure to be a disappointment. If you have money to burn, go ahead, but even shit MTM companies like Indochino could probably make something better.

>> No.11134993

>>11134511
>>11134693

blue is boring.

>>11134503

get
white, light grey, dark grey, pink, black, green

>> No.11134998
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11134998

Were 1930s suits the most effay?

>> No.11135003

>>11134993

fuck me i'm confused i thought this thread was about tees
disregard what I said >>11134693
is a much better suggestion than mine are

>> No.11135789
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11135789

Hey so im looking for a lilac suit for summer, anyone know where i can find one for a decent price? was a polish site that had some MTM for around £200, though its gone now. anywhere else to look?

Also,
>>11134998
1920 son all the way. double breasted or go home to your polio wife.

>> No.11135849
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11135849

Recent purchased this suit from brooks brothers.
Never really played with suits so not sure what to wear with it.
Color is a very dark navy btw.
What color shoes, shirt and belt would work well (would a typical blue dress shirt work?)
Thanks.

>> No.11135860

>>11134681
This. Doing everything vy hand would take forever. As I said MTM uses stock patterns to create tge clothes while in bespoke the tailor creates a pattern from scratch. Doesn't mean it will come out perfext and it rarely does in the first coat.Takes a few tries bbefore dialing on the optimal fit
Still if you have an average body built you might be better off with OTR or MTM rather than bespoke unless you're hard to fit or there's a certain style you like

>> No.11135906

>>11135849
Black shoes, white shirt, grey tie (grey not silver) is fairly classic (Bond's go to in the books)

With a plain blue shirt? Black shoes and a printed hermes ties (blue/red link pattern)

>> No.11136181

>>11135849

brown for belt and shoes
solid color shirt + patterned tie

>> No.11136211

Australian sources for good suits/tuxes? Up to 1k aud. Was looking at MJ Bale's select line for MIJ suits or Loro Piana made fabrics. Any other recs?

>> No.11136585

>>11111579
Graduating soon so going to get some suits.

question: I measured my chest. Now do I buy the size of my chest or do I give an extra bit of room? If my chest measured 38 (snug) do I buy a 38 or 40? will the 38 fit tight?

sorry for being newb

>> No.11137436

>>11131291

Yeah, Navy and charcoal is as formal as you can get. Black too, but it doesn't match anything.

>>11131938

This suit is very slightly lighter.

>> No.11137597

>>11136585
Honestly, if you don't know your size from experience trying shit on, go to a good shop, preferably a tailor but if you can't afford it, ask around about who has decent shop assistants. Ask them to help you out with the sizing.

>> No.11137604

>>11133669
>No, it isn't a 'wack' question, you're just misunderstanding it.
Ah yeah, you're right, my bad. I think it just seemed too obvious to me that the answer to

>Would you choose a fabric that is slightly superior in quality but dyed in a pattern that is ugly as fuck or would you go for the slightly less superior one that looks just like you want?
is never get anything that's ugly as fuck, so I brainfarted.

>why would anyone be so stupid as to choose a wool from Loro Piana in yellow that they hate over some wool in a navy glencheck that they really love from some unknown brand, just because it 'feels better'
Honestly, one reason I mentioned all that about evaluating cloth is *because* there's no particular reason that eg Loro Piana would be automatically better and that that's really falling for brand like a mong just as it is with label OTR clothing, I'm all about getting good quality from unknown weavers.

>And the guy you originally replied to were showing fabrics from the same bunch, so they're probably of equal quality
Depends on who made it and what type it is. A lot of swatch books contain an assortment of cloth in different weights, many tweed makers for instance do a thing where lighter tweeds are on the top and you flip down to the heavier ones.

>all he wanted to know was which we prefer.
This is definitely true though, my bad desu.

>> No.11137621

hungry skellington here looking to buy my first suit

if i buy a suit from suit supply and use their in-store tailoring service, can i trust them to make the proper alterations to make it look good, or should i have an idea of conventional suit lengths, what i want to change, pictures of suits i like, etc.?
also, because of my size, i'm assuming buying a suit from them will require a lot of alterations, would i be spending about as much as getting measured by a tailor and having a suit made?

>> No.11137638

>>11120537
sounds good, bntailors the only internationally recognized bespoke tailor here prices are allright at just above 2k for a 2pc, some nice australian tailors too, pjohnsons the most well known but they make pants that look good (but narrow for my taste) and not the most comfortable. love the lapel on the picture with the black dude

>> No.11137867

>>11137621
Go in store when you try on a suit, put it on and they'll measure what they need to change while you're wearing it
You can ask them for certain alterations in the style you want
I haven't tried it online

>> No.11137870

>>11137867
Also even with quite a few alterations, a tailor making a suit for you from scratch would still be way more expensive.

>> No.11137948
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11137948

>>11136585
Shoulders are the most important part to get right, the other ones are easy to take in/let out.

>>11137604
Aight, fair dues, sorry if I came off quite harsh.

You're right though that weight can shift somewhat in the same swatch books, but I don't think it qualifies as enough of a difference in quality that you, or anyone else, would choose the slightly better one in favor of the less superior one if the latter simply looks a lot better.

That's all I'm sayin'.

>>11137638
Like I said, I'd kill for a suit from B&Tailor, they really have this old-school Al Capone feel to them without ending up looking like a costume. Really nice pants too.

And yeah, Saman Amel does a killer lapel, one of the main reasons I'll be ordering 1-2 suits from them before summer comes.

Might even order a pop over shirt when I pick up my coat, hopefully later this week. I just really fucking want it now already, this wait is killing me.

>>11137870
Yup.

Even if he'd choose a suit from the Jort line, it'd be cheaper with alterations than getting a MTM suit from any reputable brand.

If he chooses one of their less expensive lines, it'll be 2-3 times cheaper even if you add in the cost of alterations.

>> No.11137961

>>11114640
lossn sebi :*

>> No.11138092

>>11137948
>Aight, fair dues, sorry if I came off quite harsh.

what image board is this
call each other faggot and move on please

>> No.11138121

>>11138092
I'm in a good mood, you bitch.

>> No.11138397

So for formal attire, is black really that hard to pull off and should i cop navy instead for a first proper suit? All my other suit like things are blazer jackets in neat fabrics, doesnt really fit with "proper" attire.

>> No.11138409
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11138409

>>11138397
Black only matches with a white shirt, both of which are extremely formal colours, so you'd be extremely limited in when you can use it without looking like a tool.

Yes, go for navy instead.

>> No.11138429

>>11138397
No, it's classic formal, it will work.
Problem is, then you have a suit you can only use for formal occasions. It's more flexible than some other formalwear, that only works for day or night wearing, but still only for formal events.

If you have other stuff to cover casual to business casual, you'll (probably, skintone does make a difference) look great in a black suit.

>> No.11138582

>>11137867
>You can ask them for certain alterations in the style you want
that's the thing, i don't really know anything about suits so i was hoping they would be able to make changes as they see fit and it would come out right

what are some suit styles then, so i can ask them to alter accordingly? where should the bottom of the suit hit, how long should sleeves be, how tight, etc.?

>> No.11138818

>>11138582
They'd know exactly what to do, and all the details you mentioned are stuff they're well-versed in

>> No.11139730
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11139730

>>11138818
Keep in mind that SuitSupply have quite slim cuts, though.

>> No.11139849

>>11139730
That's true

>> No.11139854

Anyone know if Charles Tyrwhitt suits are any good?

Any other UK recs for £200-400 suits would also be appreciated

>> No.11140039

Thoughts on double breasted vs single breasted suits?

>> No.11140218
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>> No.11140269
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11140269

poorfag here. i need something to wear to my cousin's wedding. is this + charcoal trousers + shirt good enough? suggestions on tie color and where to buy shoes?

http://www.hm.com/us/product/43073?article=43073-A

>> No.11140332
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11140332

>>11140039
Double breasted is a suitable option for both tall, skinny people and fat people, who both need more complexity on their torso to break up their figure and don't do well with large unbroken planes of fabric. Single breasted is good for pretty much everyone else.

>> No.11140726

>>11115850

This is best so far, sleeves are a little long though.

>> No.11140758

>>11140726
and the upper sleeve is too narrow, causing the sleevehead to pull and create dimples underneath the shoulderpads (this is a common problem with slim fit suits)

>> No.11140898

>>11140218
>Armani
>ever

lmao

>>11140726
lmao looks like a car salesman

>> No.11140911
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11140911

>>11134998
I like Jazz Age tailoring a lot.

>> No.11140913
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>>11140911

>> No.11140916
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11140916

>>11140913

>> No.11140921
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11140921

>>11140916

>> No.11141051

Anyone here have any experience with MTM/bespoke anything? Shirts, suits, pants, jackets, coats?

How long did it take to get the finished product and was it worth the wait?

>> No.11141108

>>11139854
Suitsupply will always be recommended
Below that I heard good things about TM lewin
I know Charles tyrwhitt's shirts are good, I haven't tried their suits

>> No.11141152

>>11124743
Number 7 is Goodluck Jonathan..rocking that Nigerian fashion

>> No.11141198

>>11141051
Yes, MTM:ed an overcoat, a couple suits, a loose pair of trousers. It's always been worth the money and time. Far and away. It's taken between a couple weeks and a couple months depending on their workload at the time and whether the selected cloth was in sufficient stock for my piece or they needed to order it.

>> No.11141211
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11141211

>>11141198
What brand(s) did you order MTM from? Any pics of said articles?

>> No.11141238

>>11138409
black suit and shirt and a solid tie can look good

>> No.11141245

>>11141238
No.

>> No.11141345

what's wrong with tom ford suits
or designer suits in general
i have an interest in TF bcus I buy a lot of stuff from there and a friend who works in a shop looks good in his suit

>> No.11141394

>>11140911
>>11140913
>>11140916
>>11140921
Really like some of these cuts, I feel like they would really work today if someone was adventurous enough to make them

>> No.11141463

>>11141245
yup

>> No.11141532
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11141532

>>11141238
>>11141463
black dress shirt cannot look good
it's either mobstercore or "i go to clubs to roofie drunk chicks" core

>> No.11141656

>>11141532
Never heard of a mobster with shit enough dress sense to wear a black shirt t b h
It's all edgy teenage synthcore.

>> No.11141749

>>11141656
Halloween mobsters, not real ones

>> No.11142102
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11142102

I need help with sizing on Suitsupply!!
My chest is about 83cm around but all these chest sizes seem very big for being the smallest ones they have
The 101cm is the smallest one in stock but would that be way too big or is it something I should go after even?

>> No.11143085

>>11142102
Honestly you probably measured that wrong, but whether you did or not your best solution is to go to a Suit Supply shop, if there's one available near you, and get your measurements taken by an assistant there.

>> No.11143795

What style of shoe should I buy to go with my suit? Is wingtip acceptable?

>> No.11143808

Three-piece suits are considered super formal now. Unless it's ultraformal, stick to two-piece.

>> No.11143849

>>11140913
Is that you, Reportoftheweek?

>> No.11144234

>>11141532
just gonna point out that for musicians, at least, all black is fairly standard

>> No.11144325
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11144325

>>11141394
Those are the more fashion forward cuts at the time. But I think the standards 20s cut wouldn't look out of place in contemporary fashion if the style is plain. The suits were a lot more slim, just look at those high armholes, they're practically at the arm pit.
The 30s was the decade of the drape so that's when you start seeing the fuller suits but the 20s was more slim cuts.

>> No.11144651

>>11112668
low-key rekt

>> No.11145591

>>11143085
how is it wrong? tried a number of times, horizontal and across the nips

>> No.11145641

>>11140218
looks like a fucking joke

>> No.11145682

>>11114119
you have clown shoes.

>> No.11145712

>>11143795

Depends on how formal/casual your job is. If you're wearing a black suit, I would assume it's very formal dresscode and you would probably just want cap toe black dress shoes. In addition, you can choose what style cap toe dress shoes you want. You can look at, for example, what Allen Edmond's Park Ave has to offer, which is more American shaped because it is very rounded I guess. Or if you look at Carmina's style and other European shoemakers, they are still rounded but with a boxier cut if I had to describe them.

For wingtips, those would be a little more casual but depending on the color, can implicate how formal/casual the choice is with black being most formal.

>> No.11145836
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11145836

Anyone know where I can find a pair of brown peccary or pecorinho gloves in size 7 in Europe? Or should I go for green ones? What would look better with this coat >>11120537?

>> No.11145872

>>11140269

yeah m8, you should be fine if everything fits alright.

with a proper fitting you'll look better than like 90% of the attendants. This is unless of course all of the friends and family are /fa/ as fuck, then you might look like a turd.

good luck.

>> No.11147056

>>11140911
I really hate those belts around the waist.

>> No.11147217

>>11145836
etsy

>> No.11147506

>>11147056
Personally I like them - kind of military and keeps the waist nice and nipped in

>> No.11148537

>>11145682
It's not the shoes desu.
It's the leg openings. They're waaay too narrow for his feet and it makes his feet look yuge. Narrow ass openings might work if you have petite feet but if you have bigger feet get bigger openings

>> No.11148557

whats up senpai, who's your favourite tailor atm? dont need experience can just be because you like the housecut/pictures and why? just wanna discuss desu.
for me atm it's Camps De Luca but it's one of those things that's allways changing, I'm a fan of both they're fish mouth lapel and their conservative business like styling, their suits look sleek and minimal which for me is due to the way they do their vents. the best tailor realistically available to me is B&/Ntailor they seem to make some dope shit from what I've seen.

>> No.11148559

>>11111579

What's up with those vests?

they all see too short and narrow. Some of those coats look way to small, too. Even by modern fit standards.

Also decorative belt buckle on a suit? Thoughts?

>> No.11148561

>>11148559
>Thoughts?

Yuck.

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11148567

>>11144325
My nigga on the left is killing it like a pro.

>> No.11148586

>>11140218
>>11140898
>>11145641

You two are on crack.

The guy looks nice, although I couldn't imagine the occasion.

Wait...Is that faggot carrying a pocketbook purse???

>> No.11148605

>>11148586
We get it, you wanna suck his cock.

Doesn't mean he isn't wearing shit.

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>>11134998
I'm fan of the '60s suits. Not a fan of the gigantic lapels and roominess that sandwhiched the era. And they seemed to look more shapely on both sides of the Atlantic. Plus, they wore a lot of crazy and loud patterns and still be socially acceptable depending on the situation.

>> No.11148630

>>11148605

He'd still gets more BJs wearing that than you ever will.

>> No.11148637

>>11148630
Yeah, we all know faggots are willing to suck any cock presented to them, whores that they are. That's why every faggot has AIDS.

I'll stick with girls, squire.

>> No.11148652

>>11148637
>limiting yourself to a single gender for sex partners

Get a load of this scrub.

>> No.11148923

>>11148559
All those fits are gross and shitty, the belt buckles not least. The thing with the too-short waistcoats is endemic these days though, I see dumbasses on the daily walking around with two inch gaps between their "decorative" waistcoats and their faggoty-ass hip rise jeans.

>> No.11149042

>>11141532
Is it wrong that I like mobstercore?

>> No.11149053
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>>11148923
we're currently at an unhappy medium where the waistcoats are too long to look proportionate but still too short to actually meet the pants - it's the fault of the pants

it's a look that buster keaton used for laughs in his silent films (much like wearing a collar 3 sizes too big and wearing a clip-on tie with a wing collar, good god), not something to be emulated

>> No.11149065

>>11149053
Yep, agreed. Low rise trousers are a fucking disaster. Even without a waistcoat, that lengthened torso, ugh.

>> No.11149147

Post limit way exceeded, so new thread: >>>11149142