/fa/ - Fashion

>>10351734
w2c

>>10351734
W2C?? That olive one looks sweet.

>>10351745

Supreme

H&M
Calvin Klein
GAP
Pull and Bear

Its not winter yet

>>10351745
>>10351747
it's supreme overdyed hoodied fw14

>>10351757
gtfo

>>10351734
>paying this much attention to a hoodie
Literally everywhere that is half decent you can get a hoodie that looks exactly the same as any other one for ~$40-50. Jesus christ.

>>10351804
nah man. i rock fruit of the loom hoodies on the reg and they're clean they're just not the same quality. looking for something more heavy weight and sturdy

>>10351788
what do you fucking expect for a hoodie you dumb cunthead?

>>10351734
Did OP just make me like Soopreme?

Fuck I want that black hoodie so bad, would pay $500 on eBay.

>Just kidding

>>10351857

KEK bought for $128
>Made in China
>Trying to flip for $200
>Tags in listing: Bape, Box Logo, CDG kekekeek

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Supreme-Over-Dyed-Hoodie-Black-Small-S-S-2015-bape-box-logo-cdg-New-/111757710077?hash=item1a054752fd

>>10351734
Continental Clothing

cheap and fucking amazing quality.

>>10351808
Wings horns. Reigning champ.

>>10351734
I recommend GAP

Trust me, you won't regret it. Their quality is top notch for the price.

>>10351804

You could say this about any article of clothing.

>>10351869
>Continental Clothing
Not really my style

>>10351734
just got one from uniqlo, cheap a f and seems fair quality so far

>>10351866
KEK BRO KEK

surprise: nobody is buying it because you're charging retarded prices. you can really only make heinous profits off of box logo fleece. nice try though

(also I'm surprised because most supreme fleece, including bogo shit, is made in Canada)

>>10351734
Why didn't I cop...

This is why Supreme has some GOAT pieces.

Every season I buy a few things and love them to death and I'm on the edge on a few more. A year or 2 later I feel deep regret for not getting something. Bought a coat once on this impulse, it sat all season, bought, and now they are nowhere to be found, going for >500 on ebay, being worn by celebrities, rappers, and street fashion Icons.

DONT SLEEP

Carhartt, the way their hoodies age is similar to a stone wash fade like in OP's pic

>>10352271
>Thinking that the listing I'm making fun of is my listing
>>10352411
Carhartt has good sweats/fleece, I'd urge to buy on sale because the sourcing/quality isn't as good as others in their price point.

anyone know where to get big bulky sweaters kinda like the one kanye wears in that one pic youve all seen? all sweaters i see are like slim dress shirt underneath type bullshit

>>10351956
This. I have a couple of reigning champ sweaters and hoodies, they're fantastic. Definitely go a size up if you want a more loose fit, they're extremely snug.

>>10351734
W2C similar over dyed hoodies/sweatshirts? The supreme ones are long gone and resell is rape.

>>10351734
>>10351804

I have one of these. The quality is insane. I'm not even joking.

The Supreme overdyed hoodie is the closest hoodie I've had to perfection.I feel bad for all the fuccbois who won't be able to cop

>>10351734
have there been made replicas of these? I mean they're fucking hoodies, its just hard to find hoodies with that slight off color, which is the first thing i have ever seen and liked by supreme.
Im wet for the green and red

Wearing my fake Off White Caravaggio currently, best hoodie Ive ever had.

Should I get this done

Just found these similar cheap hoodies, plus I've had good experiences with CC in the past:

http://www.amazon.com/Comfort-Colors-Garment-Dyed-Pullover-Hood/dp/B009LJO0XE/

Cop or not?

>>10354037
>>10354274
GOD NO

>>10354274
would be better without the face

damn honestly how does supreme do it

"hey let's release this washed-out cotton hoodie that cost $2 to land in the US and sell it for $100+ to 12 year olds"

genius really

>>10354193
these are super dope and a fraction of the Supreme price. i'm about to cop like 3 of these for the price of one preme jacket

>>10352509
Literally any goodwill ever

>>10354526
How do you know the quality/construction?
Silly judging how 'dope' they are without holding one

I'm dropping a hoodie around Halloween for my brand. Will post some pictures in the next week.

What kind of incentives would /fa/ appreciate? > Giveaways before or during a release deter potential customers from purchasing in hopes that they will win the contest.
> Discounts are a given. Would you prefer free shipping (less than $10 in US, $15-20 international) or a percent discount?

Please talk to me about this. My peers are my customers. I want to learn from you.

>>10354629
free shipping always. saves me the hassle of worrying for shipping. if i like ur piece, id buy it. if not, idc ,the marginal discount ull give me wouldnt make me chance my mind u know?

>>10354679
change* excuse the shitty punctuation and spelling

>>10354679
thank you!

>>10354611
holy shit, you pretentious faggot. go and buy your $100+ preme sweatshirt to impress your odd future listening faggot friends you box logo dick sucking retard. i can judge exactly how "dope" something is by looking at it with my eyes and seeing the fucking model wearing it. fuck you

>>10354526
how is sizing for this? I have the black supreme hoodie in OPs pic and i love how it fits (kind of slim and slightly long)

AA's french terry looks better http://store.americanapparel.net/french-terry-pullover-with-kangaroo-pocket-_rsafs403

unless you NEED a hood

>>10351734
I love reigning champ hoodies. midweight drawstring ones fit nice and snug, great for layering. their tigerfleece ones are baggier, super comfy as a fall top.

I have a michael kors zip up that I like quite a bit as well

>>10352271
the fall winter 14 ones were made in canada, i dont know whats up with that

>>10354274

>>10354274
Call me contrarian, but I like it. w2c

>>10354902
AA is trash though. For a cheapass beater hoodie uniqro is number 1.

>>10354875

is this pasta or has this anon's brain been so inundated with internet memes that all of his original speech sounds like it could be pasta?

>>10355067
which part of it was memes? or is your brain so inundated with 'internet memes' and buzzwords that you spout the word 'meme' at the first sign of something you don't like?

Anyone own a MUJI hoodie? Wondering how the quality is for the price.

>>10355040
they are literally the same

except uniqlo doesn't have AA's color selection/longer torso

>>10355081
a meme is a unit of culture that is spread person to person. an internet meme is a meme spread on, or having to do with, the internet.

"pasta" is a type of internet meme that often takes the form of a text-reply that is so offensive or aggressive that it has past the point of ridicule and becomes self-parody.

for instance, you've probably seen this before:

"what the fuck did you just say to me, you little bitch? i'll have you know...."

your reply here >>10354875 demonstrates many of the same qualities as hyper aggressive copy pasta replies, and is similarly embarrassing for the sincere, original poster of said content.

you're literally a talking meme.

>>10355123
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

>>10355116
AA does not make hoodies with 100% cotton bodies, they use a trash quality poly blend fabric. Wear an AA hoodie and a Uniqlo hoodie for a few seasons as workout gear/beaters and you will see a significant difference in quality.

mfw people actually paid the premium for a supreme pull over that literally looks like and has the same construction as some gap hoodie I could find in my dads closet. LMAO.

>d-dude i-its preme tho
E B A R R A S S I N G

>>10354955
they're all made in canada bro

>>10355145
i don't judge the quality of clothes based on how well they last as workout gear?? that's none of my concern, everyday wear is what i care about. AA has the better style, colors, and fit which is all subjective of course. but my bodytype is different to uniqlo's core audience (manlet japanese) which MIGHT have something to do with it.

considering i don't wear the same thing every day and i take basic precautions with clothing care (NO DRYER) that little bit of poly in a SELECT number of their items don't impact me!

>>10355158
same

just go fucking buy a basic ass hoodie and wash it/light bleach/sun-bleach it and it will look p much the same

>>10351734
w2c hoodies in washed out colors like OP?

I'm not willing to pay shekels for supreme, it's not worth it

>>10351734
How would you go about doing a DIY of these? What color would you want to start with, and what would you want to overdye it with?

>>10355196

Look if you want to wear tacky AA gear with cheap fabric and wonky cuts that's your business. More power to you if you can make that crap look good, it puts you one up on me and p. much everyone I've seen wearing AA. There are better options available at that price point is all I'm saying.

>>10355283

these actually don't look over dyed so much as garment dyed.

when you say DIY how deep into the process do you mean?

if you cut & sew your own hoodie, use undyed cotton terry. then dye the whole garment.

or just start with an undyed or maybe just a white hoodie. dye the whole garment.

dyeing the garment will entail boiling a bigass pot of water with garment dye, and then putting the hoodie into the pot and stirring it around for anywhere between half an hour to an hour.

>>10355256

Epaulet has some, but I can't say anything about their quality.

>>10355298
and the Japanese h&m isn't one of them

>>10354875
wow someone got mad haha

>>10355520

uniqlo is closer to japanese gap than japanese h&m

and it's better than aa, gap, and h&m generally speaking

it's not amazing quality, but it's probably the best bang for buck in its price point

>>10351734
check nemen (the one that collaborated with acronym) op, you might like em

>>10355548
Yeah in my experience Uniqlo is better than those brands, more comparable in quality to JCrew as far as mall brands but with generally better fits.

anyone know the quality of as colour?

>>10355144
so 2013 so beta

>>10355755
Its great dude. I have a couple of them, copped one last week as well. What ones were you looking at?

Don't buy Fruit Of The Loom, it's shit quality. Go for Timberland or Carhartt. The workwear, not the shitty overpriced casual wear.

>>10355808
couldn't really tell the difference between some of em, but was looking at maybe a crewneck and some tshirts

>>10354611
I've had good experiences with Comfort Colors in the past.

Are american giant hoodies worth the hype?

>>10358006
nope

w2c hoodie for tall-ish fag

6'2''

>>10351866
>supreme print on the sleeve
ruined it, i thiught for a second i was about to cop a supreme item

Any good sites to make hoodies designs from .ai ?

The only ones find are for batch productions.

>>10358006
American Giant is disgusting. It's for people who crave boring, but ~~quality~~ boring, are in awe of something actually having decent fabrics and fabrication, and costs just enough they can feel a little elitist, but not so much their internalized middle-class mom would freak out at them for spending three digits on a hoody.

And that would be sort of okay*, if only they didn't fuck around creaming themselves about how they're "the world's best hoody!!!111!!!"

Like, there isn't a single standard to measure a "best hoody" by - compare a Loro Piana silk-cashmere deal, an Acronym J25-SS, or a DRKSHDW hoody that's still cotton jersey (but better) and has some actual features and patterns. But it's something like those, not something like American Giant.

*Egh, sorta kinda not really etc. this tendency to not let things alone, to take mass staples and do them up more expensively in a way no one really asked for because ~~quality~~ really bugs me. The worst example is Hender Scheme's Manual Industrial Products, which is a shame because the company's original leather goods are excellent and I can't fuck with them because that line is so vile.

>>10358800
IIRC, they made it both with and without the graphic.

>>10351734
check out uniqlo and SCRT

hoodies look trashy and lazy and I haven't worn one in a decade and probably won't seriously wear one for the rest of my life if i can help it

there are so many better options

need a decent quality (not too worried about fit, more about comfort) white blank hoodie

would go with uniqlo but im in canada and i dont think they have white

>>10358921

you're actually so wrong about henders. anyone who equates american giant with hender schemes deserves to be shot in the street

>>10359061

Hoodies had those connotations ten years ago, but with the lux sweats designers have been pumping out it's not the case anymore. It's just like any other kind of clothing, it can look good or shitty depending on how and what you wear.

>>10359168
Who asked for artisinal AF1s, and why?

>>10359459
i don't know but i'm thankful he did, they look beautiful
now if only the came in my size...

>>10351762
It's winter in Australia, you fat cunt

>>10359469
They do, and that's a combination of the talent and work of the original designers and the refinement of the work and materials.

But who said AF1s, or New Balances, or Vans, or any of those things were supposed to be beautiful, in that way? They stand beautiful, properly, in a different way as they are, and they're valuable things, too. The Manual Industrial Products disregard all of that: hey, kid, your Nikes aren't good enough, lemme make 'em nice and sell them to your landlord's kids.

And why couldn't Ryo Kashiwazaki, who obviously has a very finely honed aesthetic sense and who's made lots of other beautiful objects that are his own designs, make new shoes that are supposed to be beautiful in that way?

You're telling me a guy who makes a pen stand that looks like this couldn't come up with some beautiful shoes?

And if Kashiwazaki wanted to make shoes inspired by these designs, well, by all means. Plently of people have put their own stamp on them, referenced them and made a real homage. But they're also something new and have something of the designer in them. Compare the Rick Owens swoosh dunks or the Common Projects Bball Hi to the Manual Industrial Products 01, or the Stone Island Shadow Project slipons, which are pretty transparently inspired by Vans slipons, to the MIP 4, a copy of the Vans Authentic.

>>10356417
Cant go wrong with the staple T, I've tried the paper T and marble T but personally the Staple is for me, not too heavy weight but not ridiculously thin. Im not sure what I can compare it to but its definitely better than Gildan and AA .

I have a box crew, its quite nice. The vector and chalk hoodies are good aswell.

>>10359585

you actually can't be serious

>>10359632
Lol, why not? Make a counterargument.

Pic is a /fa/g's lived in AF1s from an old thread.

>>10359611
thanks for the advice man. I think I might go for some ts of course and one of the lighter crews (it's hot here)

>>10359585

you're over analyzing this. let's apply occam's razor. here's a simpler explanation:

hey, i really like rawhide premium leather.
hey, i really like the silhouette of this shoe.
hey, what if i made this silhouette out of premium leather?
i bet it would age nicely.
i bet people would like it and buy it.

and guess what? MIP fulfills all of that.

if you like the original more, nothing is stopping you from buying the original. and nothing is forcing you to buy hender scheme's version if you don't like HS's version.

i think certain silhouettes look nice. i also think HS's leather looks nice. if i had the cash to spare, and if they made my size, i'd love to buy something from the MIP line.

i have also owned and appreciated almost every shoe that the MIP line is based on. the one doesn't detract from the other. their existences aren't mutually exclusive you knob.

>>10359644
No worries fam

>>10359682
>you're over analyzing this
>if you like the original more, nothing is stopping you from buying the original. and nothing is forcing you to buy hender scheme's version if you don't like HS's version.

What is criticism?

>here's a simpler explanation

You're not seriously suggesting that we end our critical assessment of creative work at the creator's conscious intentions, are you?

>the one doesn't detract from the other. their existences aren't mutually exclusive you knob.

This merits more of a response, but I'm going to bed shortly. I'll write something up tomorrow night.

the best hoodies that I have found for this purpose are the Gildan heavyweights

this hoodie is pretty good :)

>>10360102
opettele ottamaan screenshot hermanni :DDD

>>10359585
>>10359703
good lord, why the fuck are you here? bball his and Hender scheme MIP are totally different

Your autism led you to Google the designer but yet you somehow missed the explanation for the MIP series..? the designer was interested in taking mass produced products and remaking them from raw materials by hand. He was fascinated by the way they would age differently and the all the subtle differences between the two that climate in two totally different shoes

If you don't like them, don't buy them, but designers are free to design whatever they want and if you're too stubborn to try to understand something that fits your taste that's cool but there's no need to go showing off how stupid you are to everyone

>>10354884
Nah

>>10359703

>You're not seriously suggesting that we end our critical assessment of creative work at the creator's conscious intentions, are you?

In general, no, I'm not. What I'm saying is that while "deep" criticism can be useful, it sometimes is not. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. Sometimes a leather shoe is just a leather shoe, and sometimes a creator's intentions don't go beyond "i like this idea, i think i'll make it."

the reason why i invoked occam's razor is as follows: it seems far more likely to me that the creator of the MIP series was more concerned about just taking a material he liked and applying it to a shape he liked than creating some sort of bourgeois conspiracy to devalue the original. if anything, an homage will only add to the original's prestige.

coming up with the most contrived and gymnastic explanation that you can doesn't equate to good criticism, despite all of the frankfurt theorists with whom you're vaguely familiar.

strive to say something clearly and simply.

>>10360114
>>10360744
>>bball his and Hender scheme MIP are totally different

Pay attention. I was talking about their differences. Bball His and MIP 01 both owe something to AF1s, but they go in completely direction directions. One is good and one is not. That's my point.

>the designer was interested in taking mass produced products and remaking them from raw materials by hand. He was fascinated by the way they would age differently and the all the subtle differences between the two that climate in two totally different shoes
> the creator of the MIP series was more concerned about just taking a material he liked and applying it to a shape he liked

Fucking hell, I don't care, I'm not addressing his intention directly.

Since you seem into invoking big overblown detritus in insubstantial ways, let me throw you a critical process usually attributed to Matthew Arnold.

>1. What is the artist trying to do?

We don't disagree about this.

>2. Does he succeed in doing it?

We also don't disagree about this.

>3. Was it worth doing?

We disagree about this. What I'm saying is, "No, because [everything I've said in this thread].

You have to judge a work by its effects, not by what the artist said they wanted to do. That can often help illumine the effects, and here it does: craftsman dude makes shit to show off his skill, completely divorced from the meaning, history, and function of the objects he's visiting it on. He could have picked any shoes. It's wankery.

>>10361635
>bourgeois conspiracy to devalue the original

I don't think this at all. I don't think Kashiwazaki entered in to this thinking about class or the social role of the shoes he picked at all. *That's the problem*.

>if anything, an homage will only add to the original's prestige.

A real homage, but not this shit. Again, my central contention is that taking designs whose value lies in large part in that they are mass produced, accessible, democratic, and exactly reproducing them with artisinal techniques, in a culture with huge narratives about them being better, in small batches at exclusive prices represents an ethical and artistic failure. The hubris of thinking your craft is so great and so interesting that you could add to those shoes. We wouldn't even be talking about Kashiwazaki if it wasn't for the designers and accumulated cultural weight of those shoes.

>strive to say something clearly and simply.

That is. It's a straightforward articulation of a gut-level disgust, not something "contrived and gymnastic" at all. And shit like "contrived and gymnastic" is awful rich from someone who said "i invoked occam's razor is as follows" and proceeded, again, to grab it by the blade and shove its handle up his ass because he heard it in some bastardized, contextless form like "the simplest explanation is the best!!11!!" Or who thinks a defensive wisecrack of Freud's is actually a principle. Or who drops a dismissive reference to the Frankfurt School in like he's Glenn Beck.

>>10361643

>Again, my central contention is that taking designs whose value lies in large part in that they are mass produced, accessible, democratic, and exactly reproducing them with artisinal techniques, in a culture with huge narratives about them being better, in small batches at exclusive prices represents an ethical and artistic failure.

Then your central contention is a failure. Nothing about a Nike product is democratic or accessible. Air Force 1s cost what about half the world's population could live on for 100 days. They're made in factories with horrendous conditions, made possible by the ills of capitalism. To quote you, and to use your own standards, they're an "ethical and artistic failure."

But let's back up for a moment. It's not entirely Kashiwazaki's fault that handcrafted raw leather shoes that require a lot of labor and that must be exported across the world cost $1,000. That cost structure is already mostly programmed into the realities of production. Whatever amount HS tacks on for profit is another conversation, sure, but also a conversation that is less about HS and more about capitalism as a whole.

In your own mode of critique, every product made under a scehmata of capitalism will inevitably be an artistic and ethical failure, because nothing in capitalism is truly democratic or accessible except alienation.

Your criticism, for example, is an artistic and ethical failure because it has not lifted any struggling proletarians out of their unjust conditions. It has offered some vague ideological sympathy, but that has no real effect.

In fact, if limited run projects like HS MIP are failure for class/labor/cost reasons, then any project by nike is actually leagues worse. The somewhat higher level of accessibility and the penultimately higher levels of production only mean that AF1s have had a much more direct hand in antagonistic economic/social relations than any project launched by HS ever could.

your analysis is entry fucking level.

>>10361643

artisans making artisanal goods (which are expensive) are not the "big evil" of antagonistic economic relations in society.

shit like nike is actually closer to the "big evil" here. shit like walmart essentially is the big evil incarnate.

How do you guys take care of your fleece hoodies? They always seem to get ratty after they've been washed several times. Do I just need to hang dry them? Pic related, thinking about getting this one

>>10354955
Then the one I posted earlier was fake af, want this bad now, will never be able to cop.

>>10362022
Yes, if a garment has a tendency to pilling I use a delicate cycle with a low spin speed and hang dry it.

>>10361902
Ah, someone makes an actual argument, nice. I'll hit you back tomorrow.

>>10362022
Handwash. You can get away with >>10362402 if necessary, but trust me, either handwash or take your clothes to a professional cleaner. It's worth the time and/or money in the long run.

Unless something else is indicated, scented castile soap and a cold to slightly lukewarm water. You don't want hot, although polyester can take it better than anything, but a little warmth helps the scent take on whatever odor might remain on the garment. Ideally, dry anything knit flat, although again, polyester will stand up to it better than most other fabrics. Definitely dry wool and silk flat.

w2c nice cream colored hoodie? CDG has one but it's too expensive.

>>10355196
>uniqlo's core audience (manlet japanese)
>mfw AA sizing is equally retarded
i tried to wear a medium and it fucking fit like a small... seriously think you've never bought AA if you think their sizing is good. unless you're proportioned like an ape lmfao

Cop? Need a second hoodie

>>10363337
AA was all over the map with its sizing back when I wore it. Hell I've bought the same piece in a different colorway and they fit differently.

>>10363341
no

If you could cop only one hoodie would you pic a grey or a black one?

>>10363341
V A P O R W A V E A F

Simple question, where can I find a black hoodie of good quality with little to nor branding? Going for an oversized look, preferably 2x or 3x?

ive owned a lot of different hoodies, and to be honest, my ll bean hoodies and lands end hoodies are just as well made and have lasted longer than my "fashion" hoodies from supreme or american giant or reigning champ. yes, its nice to buy shit thats made in the usa or made in canada or whatever, but lets get real, no matter how you slice it, you can either pay a lot of money for a hoodie made in the usa by chinks in a factory, or a made in china hoodie thats also made by chinks ina factory for half the price. you choose.

they're called ``bunniehugs''

>>10362990
cdg material is shit, i tried one on and it was the most uncomfortable hoodie

anybody tried Pistol Lake before?

>>10351734
where2cop faded/dye hoddies UK? Or even just in general a decent pull over hoody. Ever where I look it's zip up which makes me puke tbh.

>>10365951
Can't comment on the hoodies but I have a pair of Pistol Lake sweat pants and they're very high quality. Fabric, fit and construction all nice

>>10362808
>I'll hit you back tomorrow.

Or sometime. Saving the thread.

>>10368015
No.

>>10358921
Good post

I have some Supreme things for sale if anyone's interested
>http://www.ebay.com/itm/271976112331?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
>http://www.ebay.com/itm/271975679010?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
>http://www.ebay.com/itm/271982745296?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
>http://www.ebay.com/itm/271982744973?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

>>10368274
lmao fuck you
you're never going to sell any of that

>>10368274
prit e funny