/fa/ - Fashion

>>15719220
It was, thankfully, a fraction of what you quoted, including the service fee from Omega for the Mark 40.

The Casio is a nice watch, no doubt, for the price point; it's not a shitter by any means. It does what it's supposed to do.

I think the emotional effect we can get from watches we enjoy wearing is severely understated in today's watchmarket. The only justification there is to spend money on a watch is 'because I want/like/love it'. Everything else is a needless comparison.

I love the design and execution of the Mark 40, but a dumbphone can do more. That makes the watch completely useless and redundant. I recognize that, and I think anyone who owns and enjoys mechanical watches perceives this as well.

Do you only like this Casio, or are there others you like too?

>>15705527
Bear in mind that the Mark 40 and the Speedy Reduced are different watches. The Reduced is a chronograph only, but smaller; it uses a dubois-depraz module stacked on top of a normal timekeeping module; the benefit is that it's a vertical clutch, which means that there is little to no 'jerk' when you start the chronometer. In fact, anecdotal accounts of owners seem to be that it's an awesome watch in terms of performance, but problematic to people who are looking for the aesthetic perfection that is the motmfm. In short, the proportions of the subdials make the dial look like it has fetal alcohol syndrome, and the chronograph pushers are not aligned with the crown but instead above the crown.

The Mark 40 (which is really a nickname, not an official appellation) is an entirely different beast. It uses a Valjoux 7751 (same as the 7750 but with triple calendar and moonphase ability), and has more complications. In my view, my specific model is the most legible of the ones available (other ones have blue faces with silver hands and shit...too many reflections in other words), but at least the dial is a little more balanced.

Personal preference, but the two watches are actually quite different in terms of daily wear or function. The Mark 40 does far more and is a better watch in just about every aspect of technical engineering. But the MOTMFM is...well...perfect for what it is.

>>15691261
Pocket watches are far easier to deal with if you've had them serviced properly because everything is larger. You can literally use a pin to adjust the regulation screw, and timing machine programs can be found online which you use with a microphone hooked into your computer. Since pocket watches are fucking loud, it won't get confused. But the pocket watch is only in my pocket, pendant up, or on my desk dial up, so depending on what is going on in the day I'll adjust it up or down to keep it steady. I wouldn't touch anything else though in the movement...that's just foolhardy.

The Mark 40 is a watch I've wanted all my life since I was a kid, but only recently pulled the trigger after finding one at a 'can't miss' price on eBay. These ones are VERY affordable right now because no one knows they exist. I like this aesthetic, I like the complexity of the dial, I like the complications, and it's around 39mm so it's smaller than everything else I have except the 1963 Seagull. The Valjoux 7751 winds far more efficiently than the Seamaster, so it's really my go-to watch now. Covid put an end to scuba trips.

I can understand Omega's modern aesthetic though (to reference your comparisons with 'blinged' dials); they're trying to push into the Rolex market as a direct competitor, and even though they can compete with their movements, they still don't 'look' as rich as Rolexes tend to look, so they compensate with bling. It's a tough call...I find modern Omega to be somewhat...supersaturated? Can't think of a better word for the collections.

>>15691271
Perhaps, I'll have a look. Thanks for the heads up.

>>15687641
Nah, I couldn't be bothered to find a pic of the actual one I bought. The pic is of a cal. 321 in rough condition...the one I bought is a cal. 1861 from in excellent condition. I don't have many pics of vanilla Speedies though.

Incidentally, collectors would hate me....when I do buy a Cal. 321, I plan to get it serviced immediately by Omega. No point having a watch if you can't wear it.

>you hate Pluta? His intro always makes me laugh...

Are you waiting for a watch in the post too?
>pic is daily wear right now.

>>15447690
Well, you're talking with an Anon who doesn't give a shit about tradition; I'm only going by how horological houses tend to group their own watches and the function they serve (as dictated by the general clientele they serve and the expectations reserved within).

I've worn my Seagull 1963 to funerals, the Seamaster to Black Tie affairs, and the Nighthawk to the gunrange. In a sense, none of it really matters if it's the watch you want, either for the purpose, or because you just want to wear that one on that particular day. When I get the Mark 40 back from servicing, I'll be wearing it all the time, regardless of the function (unless I'm working on tour, which is when the Waltham Vanguard is used exclusively).

The old traditions are long gone in the western world, and unless you're having dinners in Olde Englishe Clubs or fraternizing with Masons, none of this shit matters.

The 'dress watches made of gold' actually does have a logical justification; it was the most expensive and workable material available for watches from the 1800s until the early 1940s. It didn't tarnish like silver, it was beautiful and coveted, and so forth.

>>15447695
Fun...what is it? I don't have any time-stamped pics either, but people know me anyway. Here...it's in for servicing, and I miss it terribly.

>>15436731
Visit some watch stores, try a few things on; you'll figure out what you like and what definitely doesn't work, and then you can narrow down the possibilities until you settle on something. Then, find out the price, and start saving.

After a while, you should then start looking online on the secondary market, and if you find the model you want in decent to good condition, you can probably get a deal. Watches bought in the boutiques devalue heavily when you walk out the store, so the smart thing is to let other people take the hit and then buy secondary.

You still have to do research, and know your watches and your prices, as well as factoring in the cost of a possible full service. But it can be worth it if you're lucky and smart.

>pic related. It's in for servicing now, but the cost of a full service from Omega + the cost of the watch from Ebay is still less than half of what it cost new. Watches that make you happy don't have to cost a fortune Anon.

In For Servicing Edition

This thread is about the appreciation of watches and their design, their history, and the engineering and materials that are required to make a functioning timepiece.

Guides:
> Poorfag guide: https://m.imgur.com/a/NFMXDuK
> Watch essentials 102: https://pastebin.com/Rc77hhXV
> Purchasing used watches: https://pastebin.com/f44aJKy2
> Purchasing straps: https://pastebin.com/SwRysprE

Should I buy this MVMT / DW / "minimalist" fashion watch?
> https://imgur.com/a/6CNO8

Should I buy this Armani / Michael Kors / mall watch?
> https://imgur.com/a/Sw1FsAn

"Suggest a watch for me."
> Your budget
> Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot
> Movement, e.g. automatic, hand wound, quartz
> Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, 2nd time zone
> Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet
> Wrist size or desired watch size

Previous bread >>15403425

I'll wade in for a moment about vintage watches. To me it's really simple: either the value to you (and thus what you'd pay) of the vintage watch is tied to its historically original condition, or it's not. Furthermore, either you're buying it to wear or you're buying it as an investment in the hopes it appreciates in value over time.

If the watch is for investment, then you need to keep it original: no servicing from the dealer (as they'd replace parts), preferably not wearing it at all. A safe-queen.

If the watch is to wear, then you can either try to keep as much original as you can while replacing things like the movement, or you can just send it in for servicing and get a brand new old watch back.

I fall into the latter category: I've never bought a new watch from a boutique, for the simple reason that it immediately loses value the moment you walk out the door. You're paying a premium for that privilege. My strategy is to buy a watch in good enough condition that a standard service will be enough, but that is old or worn enough to get it at a good price. My Panerais, my Oris, and my Omegas were all in this category, and the 'new' Mark 40 on my wrist is the same thing. I'll eventually take it to Omega, pay the godless chronograph servicing charge, and get back a watch that has a polished and repaired case and bracelet, repaired and replaced parts in the movement, and any hands that need to be replaced as well. It'll be, to all who see it, a new watch, because that's what Omega does when you service a watch.

This is the complete opposite of anyone who wants a vintage watch that is original, and I understand that. But I buy my watches to wear, not to invest in. If I wanted to invest, then I'd buy Rolex new from the boutiques and store them in safes and resell them 40 years later for a 'profit'.