/fa/ - Fashion

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>trad goth is referring to the older goth bands like siouxsie and the banshees/the cure…

THAT IS IRRELEVANT; THE PROBLEM IS THE TERM ITSELF.

>traditional:existing in or as part of a tradition; long-established.

THAT IS A REDUCTIONISTIC, THEREFORE, ERRONEOUS, DEFINITION.

TRADITION ENTAILS A ROTE TRANSMISSION OF MORES, FORMS, CONVENTIONS, AND AN ACTIVE EFFORT TO PRESERVE THEM FROM CHANGE.

>wearing all black is a traditional thing in the goth subcultures…

1. BLACKNESS IS A STYLISTICALLY TYPICAL FACTOR OF GOTHNESS, NOT A TRADITIONAL FACTOR.

2. BLACKNESS DOES NOT CONSTITUTE GOTHNESS; GOTHNESS DOES NOT CONSTITUTE BLACKNESS; GOTHNESS IS MORE THAN ONLY BLACKNESS; WHAT IS BLACK IS NOT NECESSARILY GOTHIC; WHAT IS GOTHIC IS NOT NECESSARILY BLACK.

3. GOTHNESS IS NOT CONTINGENT TO BLACKNESS; THE GOTHICAL IS DEFINED BY ITS AESTHETICAL STYLE, NOT BY THE USE OF THE COLOR BLACK.

4. I AM NOT CONTENDING AGAINST BLACKNESS BEING A TYPICAL FACTOR OF GOTHNESS, THEREFORE, I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY YOU BRING THIS TOPIC TO THE DISCUSSION.

>…and is/was views as 'RADICAL, ANTIFORMALISTIC, ANTITRADITIONAL.'

I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS PART OF YOUR SENTENCE.