/fa/ - Fashion

>>18101450
Thank you, Fren. It's a nice gateway pocket watch to get into the hobby if one is looking to do so. Every once in a while I think about getting one of those Hamilton Model 22 deck watches, because I think the Hamilton pocket watches in general are truly excellent from that period of time...but I never really get to it. As I've mentioned on /wt/ before, I'm done buying watches now.

>>18101456
That's what I did. Only one of my serious wristwatches was bought 'new' (the Citizen); everything else was pre-owned. Of the pre-owned, only one has box and papers, and those are truly a waste of space. I took a route that was unusual for collecting: I curated a list, added/removed from that list for about a decade, and then finally just started to acquire the pieces that survived on the list. This way I could be sure I would be happy with the choices, and that they were serve me well. Simple watches like an Omega Speedmaster (3570.50, 1861 movement) are plentiful, so you just buy the lowest priced one and send it to Omega for servicing (where they replace nearly everything, polish it up, and send it back to you 'like new', which is their service policy). If you got one for, say, 3500 USD, and send it into Omega for servicing (another 750-900 depending on region and parts), then for 4500 or so, you have a 'brand new' 1861 Speedmaster hesalite. That's a better price than one that is on the grey market being advertised as 'recently serviced' (but you have no guarantee the quality of that service).

For all of my vintage watches, I have a watchmaker I trust who takes care of them. He's seen the inside of everything from my 321 to my Holy Grail, and he pulls all of my mechanicals into the performance tolerances I require. I don't trust Omega to service my vintage watches, but anything past the change to SuperLuminova I'll happily send to Omega because if they replace parts, it doesn't alter the value of the watch. With older ones, it can.

>>18080167
Well, I'd say if it's bothering you, then call him. Every day without your watch is a day without your watch...you know what I mean? It's a nice perpetual calendar, and if you're used to using it daily, then I'm sure you miss it.

The Aerospace looks great in your pic, and due to the brushed finish, the two-tone looks subtle. Is it two-tone on titanium? Looks so in the pic...anyway, it isn't gaudy, at least to my eyes. I understand what you mean about dive watches looking the same. I agree that they do, which is why I ended up with the 2254.50. For me it will always stand out due to the combination of milspec big triangle along with wave dial and lyre lugs (which are more refined). I do love divers in general, and there's a lot of variety. Hell, there's nothing wrong with considering something like Doxa or Panerai if you want something that looks unique.

You could go on the dressy side too...so many to choose from, and many of them lose value hard on the secondary market that you can get great deals for high quality pieces. Just a thought.

>>18077344
Glad to hear it's running well and that the Stiletto still impresses; what a great design that is!

At the moment, life is excellent, and any stresses that occur are predictable and manageable. Every once in a while I think about 'thinning the herd', but just can't bring myself to sell any of them. They all serve a purpose now, so I'm enjoying all of them for their charms.

Hope you are doing well and staying in good health too. Take care, and good luck with the thread!

Buy-what-you-love edition

Guides and Info:
> Poorfag guide: https://www.imgur.com/a/NFMXDuK
> Watch essentials 102: https://pastebin.com/Rc77hhXV
> Purchasing used watches: https://pastebin.com/f44aJKy2
> Purchasing straps: https://pastebin.com/SwRysprE
> List of space watches: https://pastebin.com/Te6PNzxr
> /wt/ Pasta: https://pastebin.com/GBLwAm0f

Should I buy this MVMT / DW / "minimalist" fashion watch?
> https://imgur.com/a/6CNO8

Should I buy this Armani / Michael Kors / mall watch?
> https://imgur.com/a/Sw1FsAn

"Suggest a watch for me."
> Your budget
> Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot
> Movement, e.g. automatic, hand-wound, quartz
> Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, 2nd-time zone
> Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet
> Wrist size or desired watch size

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>>17976751
tofosfo amnay wt threads. whyso many?

>>17976757
i aseae it a fe wdaysa ago. i think he's trying his best, and mdayeb it's not too bad where h'es from. beteter to be out trying than inside laughign.g i wishi him louck and ogod health.

>>17976808
maybee e he had some when ehe was yong, and then he lost it. and now he's trying tot find it again but knows it's toto late becaus all the girls arere too lost themseleves. so now he dresses for himself and doens't care. good luck. sorry abou this har though...he lookss like he's goign badl. not his wfaulr.

>>17977035
wore everytihggnig ecxcept the mark40. it's resting. fallign ln love with the 222254.50 again...perfect watch actally. acchh.achut. akachurally. pereft watch.

>seeee pic. i'll promise to do sanother webm when i put i back on leather. perect flieger/diver combos ever made EVER!

>>17977097
theye'll have it in stock; the question si swehrether or not they awant to seelll it to you.

>>17977103
glad your'e aaliverer tudrorshad! hworera are you? plseases stay safe..wrap tahtt thing up tite yo....no need to risk getting stuff youc an't rget reid of later own.

>>17977149
it's lsike sports teams or pornr favorties.

>>17977175
becasues it'veve been bUSY. YOU KNOW BUSY??? busy. i heoepe you're are you in good ghealth . wehat are you wearing today?

>>17977278
inaapprorpriate. THe shiny dodns't tmatch the watchhead bruchsed.

>>17977308
try it on on i person; then you'll know why it's a amaksta.mistake.

>>17977315
depednosdnsone on where you get it.

>>17977481
i have hadadfdfr great luck with ti. no problemsever including grail.

>>17977483
wowOW THIS IS NEW I HAV ENVER SEEIN IT BEFORE!!! Alsomomost accurate. forgets that I pray for you al.

> ESPECIALLY BITTERERANNON!!

>>17977676
2early. time it drinks know. know now. wish yosu goodo heatlha nd citizen perfect. i liek cofeacovvfefer. ma yebe get a JLC someday it couwld go wsell with yorurr colelctsion.

>>17977683
convrats!

>>17964423
I think we live in a remarkable time where we have the largest possible variety to choose from and many of them are reasonably priced for what they can do. You could quite literally find any design that speaks to you and buy it, when back in the day you were far more limited by what stores were in your town and what price you could afford. Quality control is the issue, as always though, so my thoughts always gravitate to the same thing: do you have a watchmaker who can inspect it when it arrives, and can service it when it needs a service and/or parts? If so, then enjoy!

>>17964436
Don't go to awful areas, don't flash the rolii around, and make sure your bodyguard is not sleeping.

Black edition

>Poorfag guide:
https://imgur.com/a/NFMXDuK
>Watch essentials 102:
https://pastebin.com/Rc77hhXV (embed)
>Purchasing used watches:
https://pastebin.com/f44aJKy2 (embed)
>Purchasing straps:
https://pastebin.com/SwRysprE (embed)
>Should I buy this MVMT / DW / "minimalist" fashion watch?
https://imgur.com/a/6CNO8
>Should I buy this Armani / Michael Kors / mall watch?
https://imgur.com/a/Sw1FsAn

"Suggest a watch"
>Your budget
>Watch type, e.g. cope, larp, poor
>Movement, e.g. automatic, hand wound, quartz, solar
>Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, 2nd time zone
>Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet, rubber
>Wrist size or desired case size ex: > 40mm marabout, 37-39mm preop, 33-36mm patrician, < 33mm gf tier

>Watch news websites:
https://www.hodinkee.com
https://www.ablogtowatch.com
https://www.fratellowatches.com
https://monochrome-watches.com

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>>17910874

>>17904441
Mechanical watches can be supremely accurate, as long as the movement itself is well designed. A great movement always has the potential to compete with a quartz, but the issue is the timeframe and the watchmaker who manages it. My old 321 is the most accurate mechanical wristwatch I own; more accurate than any of the COSC ones, but it's only because my watchmaker pulls it into spec for my wearing habits. Far too often, customers are reliant on a watch that has been regulated and adjusted by the factory; understandably so, because opening the watch may void a warranty. This however 'locks' the customer in to whatever range the watch is set with...and that's horrible. Anyway, glad your Rolex is 'superlative'; it should be.

Re: the Speedy used: DEFINITELY do this. There is no current model except the Ed White or Snoopy that you should buy from an AD. The 57 in Green looks great in person and wears well, so just prepare and buy the seller.

We had our thanksgiving last month, and it was 'usual', so that's always good. Hope yours was great; never forget to take a moment to look around the table and be thankful for all who are present. One day a chair may be empty.

>>17904453
I say it because it needs to be said; so many people don't follow that advice and instead are swayed by advertisement, social pressure, etc. If people en masse just bought what they adored, then admittedly there might be far fewer watches on the grey market being offered for sale, fewer Anons here who bought something and have regrets, etc.

Do you own what you love, Anon? If so, share it with us! What are you wearing today, Fren?

>the only time I ever bought a watch due to 'reputation', grew to love it after it was serviced and brought back to life. Won't risk that again though...

>>17889272
Of course.

Ideal Edition

>Poorfag guide:
https://imgur.com/a/NFMXDuK
>Watch essentials 102:
https://pastebin.com/Rc77hhXV
>Purchasing used watches:
https://pastebin.com/f44aJKy2
>Purchasing straps:
https://pastebin.com/SwRysprE
>Should I buy this MVMT / DW / "minimalist" fashion watch?
https://imgur.com/a/6CNO8
>Should I buy this Armani / Michael Kors / mall watch?
https://imgur.com/a/Sw1FsAn

"Suggest a watch"
>Your budget
>Watch type, e.g. cope, larp, poor
>Movement, e.g. automatic, hand wound, quartz, solar
>Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, 2nd time zone
>Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet, rubber
>Wrist size or desired case size ex: > 40mm marabout, 37-39mm preop, 33-36mm patrician, < 33mm gf tier

>Watch news websites:
https://www.hodinkee.com
https://www.ablogtowatch.com
https://www.fratellowatches.com
https://monochrome-watches.com

Previous thread:
>>17879995

>>17852626
>...a lot to ask from the user?
No. It's because the modern expectation of what a mechanical watch can and can't do is unrealistic due to all the other things that have modern technology. It's like comparing a car from 1970 with one today; the one from 1970 could be fixed by anyone with an instruction manual, tools, and parts. But a modern car would require computerized diagnostics and all the other bullshit. Granted, the modern car will perform far better than the older one in every measurable way...but if we applied the expectations of what we're used to today with what was possible back then, we'd be just as annoyed.
The older generation bought a watch, had a watchmaker they would take it to regularly for servicing if it started running slow, and that's about it. Older watchmakers took into account things like which wrist the owner wears the watch on, how they store it overnight, etc. Good watchmakers still do, of course, but if you send a watch to Omega, they don't ask for that information nor do they really care. They're trying to get as many watches serviced as quickly as possible, which leads to mistakes or things not being absolutely perfect. That's why I always advocate for finding a good watchmaker that you can talk to 1:1. A good watch has potential to be a nearly perfect one, so if you have a watch with one of those ETA or Valjoux movements, it's possible to pull it into really great specs. If the watch has a movement that is designed badly or has poor components, then it's luck of the draw.
>who's serving who? The user or the watches?
It's a tool; if you want it to function well, you have to maintain it and run it according to its limits. Like adding oil periodically to your engine.
>...beauty in a watch that needs fucking nothing
Yes...that's why I own my Citizen 0100. I set it once a year, and it's always on time. A remarkable piece of engineering, if you ask me.
>>17852628
Fair enough.
>>17852634
Aw...are you jelly?

The Omega 2254.50 truly is a perfect diver. I can't understand why more people don't just buy the damn thing and avoid thick Tudors that are around the same price.

>>17844142
I wish I liked the design. It's definitely iconic, and based. Nevertheless....it doesn't look attractive to my eyes.

>this is more beautiful...

>>17837114
4 Speedmasters, 2 Seamasters, two Quartz, and 2 pocket watches. I have a few shitters too (an old Rotary, a Seagull 1963, etc.), but that's it. Simple and enjoyable.

I'm wearing this today mostly.

What have you got in your collection, Fren?

>>17827466
For me, I curated a list of watches I wanted and added/subtracted from that list for about a decade before starting to buy. It really cemented which watches I wanted, which ones were passing fancies, and which ones were utterly stupid. In this process I tried on as many of the ones I wanted as I could, and spent time with them. Then, I started buying. I did have a 'holy grail' watch in the mix, and that is my grail Speedy. Other than that, every other watch was, in my eyes, 'perfect'. This meant that while other watches might come out, none could compete with the design aesthetic of what I loved in the watches in my list.

This doesn't mean that everyone will love the same watches I love. It just means that I figured out what I wanted, tested that desire, and then put it into practice when I was sure. Now I have no regrets, and I'm done buying. I haven't bought a watch in over a year, nor do I have any desire to do so. I still go watch 'shopping' (you know, where you go into a boutique to try on the latest design or whatever), but truth be told, I don't see myself buying ever again.

>pic is an example: to me, this is a perfect diver. Perfect bracelet fit, perfect dial, perfect handset, perfect case (including HE valve), perfect thickness (or thinness, depending on your point of view), etc. It's perfect for my eyes, but not necessarily for anyone else. Doesn't matter, because I love it and wear it.

>>17818575
Then what are you wearing, Fren? Post some pics like I am; that'll get things back on track.

>wearing this one right now, just because.

>>17818577
I like you.

>>17602896
Everything. Relaxing today, so switching out when I feel like it.

>>17602902
Quite honestly; do a search on Chrono24 within the price range of MSRP for the other watches...there's a lot out there. Omega is better than Tudor in every respect, but with no-date I'm thinking perhaps dress watch? Do you need a diver?

>pic related - I'd normally recommend this 2554.50, but you want no-date. Still an excellent watch.

>>17602912
I am working, Mark. I like your videos, and you seem like a nice guy. I know you're pushing product, and that's okay because you don't pretend to do otherwise. If you're not Mark, that's okay too...it's good to be friendly in an unfriendly world.

>>17602938
LawyerAnon...good to see you on this drunken Sunday. How was your trip?

>>17602944
It's still the best Tag that has been recently released. I tried on their square monstrosity with the crown on the wrong side a few months ago....fucking awful experience.

Hope everyone is well. Drunkashell, and enjoying every minute of it.