/fa/ - Fashion

>>15953485
I care...

>>15527135
He's almost there Anon. Now he has to learn to forget everything he's ever seen and embrace what his soul requires.

>>15527120
That's the first step for many after they grow into adults; mimic their parents. It's only after they define their personality that they can expand it through their choices of wardrobe.

>>15527095
Don't lose hope Anon. That being said, try out some things that are outside of your comfort zone; you'd be surprised what 'fits' you.

>>14955308
It depends on what you mean by 'reasonable' and 'decent'.

If you mean 'decent' in terms of manufacturing quality, leather quality, cut and finish, and timelessness in design, then you're starting in the 700$ range new.

If you mean 'reasonable' with regards to dollar-to-wear ratio (i.e. how many dollars per day or year of wear), then you should be looking between 800-1000$ if you plan on wearing the jacket for more than 8-10 years for 6 months of the year. Obviously, leather jackets last longer than that if you care for them, but this is the standard for average budgeting.

>>14955321
Respected makers include mass production such as Schott, Vanson, Wilson, Matchless and Aero, amongst others. Smaller houses include Wested, Jonathan A. Logan, Legacy, and others. There are specialists for certain things, and there are companies that were excellent like Belstaff which, since Malenotti went to Matchless, have now gone into shittiness.

>>14955340
If you want a push in the right direction, start with Schott. Go to a store with them, and try them on until you find something that fits like a second skin. Then you'll have an idea of what chest size, waist size, and sleeve length you need, and furthermore it opens up the doors to ordering custom (which is ideal) from a company you trust. If you go vintage, it's tougher to get a precise fit unless you're built like a saggy 1970's body. Furthermore, vintage leather has lots of problems.

Do you ride? You'll have to consider riding-specific options. If it's just for fashion, there's one more thing you can consider.

There's a company in Canada called "Topman'. You can get a fake leather jacket for 100$ or less, and I only mention it because if you have never worn leather before but like the look, you could experiment by buying one of these and wearing it for a season. If you like the look, and find stuff to wear with it, then you can eventually save up and get the real thing. If you don't, throw away.

>>14759956
No. (((you)))

>>14759957
While it's a good experiment, perhaps the best way to start is to meet with some friends over coffee and wear the jacket to the meet. That's pretty much the 'worst-case' scenario; if your friends are real friends, they'll probably give you some optimistic comment about it and then you can go on with normal conversation...it'll help you feel comfortable in it.

For my eyes it fits fine as a fashion jacket.

>>14759959
The jacket was made by hand in the jungles of Alaska, using the finest frogskin available in the woodlands. The hardware is pure sterling silver, which was surprisingly easy to source.

The jeans are a definite surprise: Japanese in origin, and handwoven and washed by the senior citizens of a small village in the north. I had to trade a Stradivarius and a First Folio in order to get the jeans, but boy were they worth it.

>>14759963
Careful now...you're verging on libspeak. Never accuse those you hate of being the thing you'd hate to be yourself...it only exposes (((you))) further.

>>14703815
Yup...forget about the fitness issue. The jacket design itself is not good for you. You could definitely pull off a double-rider, it's just that this one is cut and designed in a way that is not complementary to your body but rather makes your body look worse.

That's one of the rules of leather, for any Anons lurking. Leather jackets are not flexible in terms of what they do for your outer look. Either they hide the things you hate about your body and accentuate the awesome things, or they do the opposite and expose all the terrible things and minimize the good things.

The double-rider in light pigskin does this for the Anon here: it makes his shoulders look smaller, his waist look bigger, his stomach look rotund, and his neck and framing of head messy, all because he zipped it up...

The dark grey/black one does the opposite; it accentuates and amplifies his shoulders (the stitching helps), it tapers from the pecks down, and it drapes equally on both sides when worn unzipped. That's why it works.

>>14655080
Yes. The way to do it is to wear it for its function, not its look. If you live in a place where it pisses rain more days of the year than not, and it's not tropical, then a long trenchcoat is fine, especially if wear ties, suits, etc. If you live in a desert or warm area where the function of the coat is lost entirely and the only reason to wear it is the look, then you'll be larping.

As for facial aesthetics, this counts no matter what, but as you see with ugly celebs (think Danny Trejo), the only thing that will matter in your life is if you 'have confidence' when wearing it. The way to do that is to be sure that every piece of clothing you wear alongside the jacket is appropriate to the jacket, and most importantly, appropriate to you as a personality.

There are always cool ideas of what to wear and what not to wear, but the clothing being an extension of your personality is one of the most important aspects that always gets overlooked.

>>14655966
Yes, but no. Furthermore, most people I come across now just think it's military...lol Then again, they probably have never played videogames in their life, and they'd definitely have no idea what Donte or DMC or anything else is.

>>14656248
Disagree. Leather is excellent if it's rainy, wool is awful. Also, leather conforms and frames the body better than wool if you've had the jacket tailored correctly; wool doesn't have hard lines due to the way the fabric interacts with light.

>you can do it. Get one, tailor it, and wear it in the rain. Ignore those who don't like it, and forgive those who didn't think it was possible.

>>14643009
>bleeding black dye.
Never a good sign Anon...

>I steamed it lightly...
You WHAT????

You'll slide on it regardless of how lubricated it is due to the speeds you're going at, so don't worry about that. Anyway, if you wipe out hard wearing a leather jacket, the jacket is likely not going to be fully protective any longer. Usually the first things that go are the shoulder seams, but more likely than not things like the bottom of the main centre zipper (if it's done up) at the waist and things like that.

If I were you, I'd stop trying to 'repair' the jacket, and just leave it be. Wear it, enjoy it, and for fuck's sake stop worrying about it. The horror stories the previous generation told us about upkeeping leather is accurate to that generation's leather, not the modern generation leather.

A great deal of leather treatment is sold without actual need. They're not like leather shoes which constantly see rock salt in the winter, rain and dirt and shit in the fall/spring, etc. Those need to be washed properly, moisturized, and polished. A leather jacket is something of the opposite.

Think of it this way. The jacket never sees the ground. It never sees salt (unless you drive behind a salting truck). It will see rain, mosquitoes and bugs, and glorious sunshine. If you don't take a tumble, then that's all it'll see directly.

Wear it, enjoy it. It's likely to outlast you anyway, or at least, outlast your waistline.

>not related, but I've worn it so much I can't help myself. Also, it seems to trigger Anons here...

>>14539639
Start with the most common pairings: with a double-rider, you normally wear white t-shirt underneath, jeans, and hardy boots or shoes that you'd wear on a motorbike.

Then go outside this circle if you feel like experimenting. Beckam is sporting the collared shirt/tie combo which has been pushed since the 2008/9; the idea is that you wear semi-formal business attire, but you wear a biker jacket on top of it to show how relaxed and hip you really are (it also hearkens back to the 1960s, but with a mix of the band style (think early Beatles in suits and ties) with greaser).

With this style of jacket, you have to be aware of the belt on the jacket and how this will affect the cutting of your body in half visually. Which brand did you buy?

In terms of 'how' I wear my leather jackets, it depends on the specific jacket. Jeans and a t-shirt work universally well, though the colour of the jeans and the t are dependent on the colour and cut of the jacket. Unfortunately, the question is very open (it's akin to asking 'I have a pair of black leather shoes...what do I wear them with?).

>>14539702
Faux-leather is usually a plastic or vegetable compound that degrades easily, tears easily, and shreds just by looking at it. The only purpose it serves is if the person wearing it buys it for 1 season only to try a new look without the cost of a real one. In other words, faux-leather is acceptable if a person thinks it is. I personally hate the material, but if I see someone wearing faux-leather I'm not going to point to them and laugh. First I'll think, 'maybe they can't afford a real one', and then I'll think, 'maybe they just want quick changes in their look without the cost', and then I'll think, 'maybe they don't know why real leather is better'. But perhaps I'm too generous on that.

>>14539846
It depends on who you spend time around.

>yes, I have been summoned...

>>14320433
From the first pic, here are the problems I see.

1) The shoulder seams drop after your actual shoulder (you can see your right shoulder bump about 2 inches from the end). This, combined with the excess of material on the left shoulder side (the bunching at the underarm) makes me think that the 'chest' measurement is too generous. If this were a 42 regular, I'd say you'd have to try on a 40, or even a 38.

2) The sleeve length appears to be slightly long too, but as this is affected by where the shoulder seam is placed, it's not easy to judge it properly.

3) We can't properly judge the waist and where it drops if you wear trousers that are either baggy or if you have bad posture. But if I were to guess, I'd say it looks like the jacket is too long.

Gut feeling? The jacket is 1 size too big for you.

>>14298214
Looks sharp. Shoulders, cuffs, and waist are all falling at the right spots. Aero is definitely better in fit than Schott, although the last time I looked into it Schott now has a 'slim' version of their normal jackets, so perhaps they decided to get with the times and younger clientele.

Nice jacket Anon. What's the next one on the list? (one can't just have 1 leather jacket...)

>>14253187
Well, that pic is only cosplay and humour; I do however wear the coat a shit-tonne, with more muted colours. Given that it almost never sees proper sunlight, the colours are also less vibrant, so it serves well as my raincoat.

Pic related is the most common configuration I use now. It's comfy, and the jacket is the only source of 'odd-ness' compared with the rest of the ensemble. That's one of the challenges of this jacket really...allowing it to breathe.

>>14257548
About a decade. It's served me well, though the preview screen at the back has a 'dent' in it so it doesn't register a clean preview shot. Such is life, but you might as well use something until it dies.

>>14141194
Why don't you just get the real jacket?

7) The belt: Belted jackets can be difficult to size because you're deciding where your body will be cut in half. This is yet another reason you have to try these jackets on in person before buying. It's a visual problem, and the clearances have changed over the decades. Early 50's jackets tended to have the belt at or just below the navel. Compare that with today where trousers are low and thus trouser belts are low. Modern fashion double-riders have mimicked this extension of the torso, for better or worse. So when you try one on, you do have to zip and belt up the thing to be sure that when you're wearing it in a freak rain storm, you're not going to look like you're wearing your father's perfecto or that you're wearing one that is too short for you.

8) Sleeves: In general, if you ride a bike you need longer sleeves with this design. Unless the jacket has gussets (the accordion looking extensions at the back of the shoulders), then longer sleeves are necessary so that when you bend forward to grab the bars, the jacket doesn't pull back to expose your wrists. Fashion jackets however do not take this into account; they are cut so that it looks fine when you're standing up. This explains a phenomenon that you may have already noticed: that certain jackets for whatever reason have really long sleeves compared with the normal sizing. Once again, take it into account: if you want a riding jacket, long sleeves are normal. If you want a fashion jacket, then don't bother with something like Schott (who tend to have longer sleeves).

9) Custom sizing: many companies do this, including Schott. This costs more, but in the end it's better for you in my view if you're spending money on a jacket that is meant to last you a lifetime. Aero, Vansen, and others do custom sizing as well. Don't be afraid of custom sizing: call the manufacturer and ask them if it's possible, tell them your size (be honest; false sizing just wastes money), and see what happens.

cont.

>>13875149
Checkmate Anon...

I'm the one who administers the tests

>>13670671
The newest in the rotation.

>>13619252
It's a good plan. There are many companies that do custom tailoring when you order a new jacket, though sometimes there is an extra cost depending on the company.

Furthermore, there's a lot for you to research on this topic before spending any money. You need to get familiar with different types of leather, different styles of jacket (double-rider, cafe racer, aviator, etc.), then you need to start trying on jackets from different companies (because two double-riders from two different companies do NOT fit the same at all)....and after all of that, you need to save money and determine what kind of jacket is an extension of you and your personality RATHER than what kind of personality you want to project to others. That's one of the fatal flaws...people think (innocently so) that if they put on a distressed leather jacket all of a sudden they'll be thought of as 'cool' or 'dangerous'....but if they're not like that in terms of personality, then outsiders see through it in a second.

Black is more versatile than brown as a colour, so probably start with that. Aviators are in style at the moment and go with literally anything, so perhaps that's the easiest to start with. Also, my strategy was to start simple with all the other stuff you wear around it. Jeans and a black or white t-shirt ALWAYS work with a leather jacket, no matter what. After that, you can start to diversify and experiment. Eventually you'll have lots of confidence, and then you pass into the territory of wearing whatever the fuck you want (but always fitted extremely well). My DMC jacket falls into this category, even though people here hate it...lol

Alright, gotta go. Good luck getting to your ideal body sculpt...it's a worthy goal as long as you're doing it for yourself (i.e. your health and well-being) and not for others. Best of luck.

>>13556976
I'm still experimenting, but it's getting closer. As it stands, it works, but now I'm experimenting with diversifying different looks that go with the jacket.

One other thing: these shots were taken with natural light only, no overheads or fluorescent or anything. I'm not sure what else I can do to show you guys the reality of the red and how non-extreme it actually is. It's not subtle, but it's definitely not screaming the way that people might think.

>>13492898
Thanks, I definitely will as things develop. What do you think of the latest idea? Better? Worse? Same? And if so, why?

Thanks everyone!