/fa/ - Fashion

>>11769537
Most of the time, understand that a sunscreen and a 'Daily Moisteriser with SPF' only differ based on how much it moisterises the skin. Some people with dry or very dry skin might find that using a sunscreen is plenty, others want the additives of anti-aging as well as other beneficial ingredients. In saying that, the product you listed has Glycerin, Sodium Hyaluronate, Cetearyl Alcohol and Cetyl Palmitate, all of which has beneficial and moisterising capabilities, and so, if you find it to be moisterising enough and also if you don't mind omitting other beneficial ingredients that can be present in a moisteriser, there's no reason why you couldn't use it as a daily moisteriser.

>>11769472
Thanks, Paula's Choice Deliver worldwide but CeraVe is harder to find, you could try eBay, just make sure the product isn't really old (or not new, for that matter).

>>11769364
(cont.)
large pores as well as excessive oil production. And for moisterisers, I would be, again, looking at a reputable brand that includes spf in (or you can continue using a sunscreen on top of) your AM moisteriser. I, after reading into these a bit more, would recommend CeraVe's AM Facial Moisturizing Lotion Broad Spectrum SPF 30, as it's cheap and really good, otherwise Olay's Regenerist Regenerating Lotion with Sunscreen Broad Spectrum SPF 50 is also a good pick ( though more expensive, but French so).

>>11769364
>I've tried everything
Obviously not.
>What products would you recommend?
Based on the products you're using at the moment, I can understand why you aren't seeing results. Your cleanser, apart from being by L'Oréal, uses physical exfoliation on a daily basis, which is almost certainly too much, even for non-sensitive skin. I can't tell because I can't find its ingredients, but your exfoliant also looks like a physical one in which case I'd give the same advice as above. even more so because you'd be using physical exfoliating 4 times daily, which is incredibly excessive and probably dangerous in the long term. I, again, can't find the ingredients of your moisteriser. However, and this is an assumption because I hate French skincare (the French are awesome and so is skincare but the two together are best news), the company that you're using appears to probably be using irritants like colour and fragrance which make the product more appealing. I would switch out your cleanser for something along the lines of CeraVe's Foaming Cleanser (or their regular one if you have dry skin) or Paula's Choice Pore-Reducing Cleanser which are both highly rated (and CeraVe is dirt-cheap) cleansers from reputable brands that have everything you could want in a cleanser without the use of harmful irritants like colour and fragrance. In regards to exfoliation, I would consider ditching the physical stuff and going for a product that incorporates BHA and/or AHA (though BHA is far better for addressing more skin concerns) which can be used daily, morning and night (high strength AHAs not so much), yet remain gentle and still highly effective. For a product recommendation, Paula's Choice Skin Perfecting 2% BHA liquid is the GOAT for BHA solutions and I don't think I've ever found a better one. As for toners, you want something from a reputable brand like I listed earlier. I'd recommend Paula's Choice Skin Balancing Pore-Reducing Toner, which is beneficial for both (cont.)

>>11769261
Actually, yes. I used a roll-on tea tree oil stick until it was used up and didn't repurchase because Benzoyl Peroxide and a number of other products I use a far more effective and less irritating than tea tree oil. They might be less effective because of potential exposure to air and also the inclusion of some solidifying agents that might make them worse compared to bottled solutions.

>>11769002
(cont.)
You need to have a skincare regime that deals with your skin problems (in your case, acne, but also redness, large pores etc. if you have them) based on your skin type (oily, dry, combination, sensitive etc.), otherwise it's likely that the other things you're doing are negligible. You need to be using, at the bare minimum, a cleanser, toner, Benzoyl Peroxide (BP) and daytime and nighttime moisterisers. If your acne is very very mild, then don't use BP, in fact, you could start off doing these things and then, if your skin is not as clear as you'd like it, you can then introduce BP. The way you phrased this made it sound like you only use a Cetaphil cleanser and that's it. If you are using other products, please list them along with your skin type (oily, combination, dry etc.) and I can help you identify anything that might be causing/not helping your skin.
>All-natural shampoo
Won't necessarily help your acne. Shampoo is washed off and so, even if if it had irritating ingredients, it would likely not cause acne.

>>11769049
<3

>>11768937
Not typically. They make tonnes of bogus claims and use a lot of buzzwords to rope people into buying their skincare. Their dermo cleanser is pretty good. They have a few good products which I will list in a moment, but anything else by them I'd stay away from.
>Toleriane Dermo-Cleanser
Good for dry and sensitive skin.
>Anthelios Clear Skin Dry Touch Sunscreen Broad Spectrum SPF 60
Good for oily skin, doesn't leave a whitecast like some other products. The only problem is that it doesn't contain zinc oxide which is the best protection from UVA rays.
>Ceralip Lip Repair Cream
Good all round.
>Effaclar BB Blur Instant Oil-Absorbing Coverage Cream Mousse
Good product, won't work for darker skin tones, however.
>Anthelios 50 Mineral Ultra Light Sunscreen Fluid, SPF 50 Face
Really good all round and doesn't leave white cast, thinking of buying it desu haha
>Effaclar Duo Dual Action Acne Treatment
Effective, but too expensive for what it does and contains LHA which they say helps acne but there's no reliable research behind it.
>Toleriane Purifying Foaming Cream
Best for normal to dry skin, not for people with overly sensitive skin

Now that I've had a look through those, I can recommend La Roche-Posay's spf sunscreens to anyone looking for one, however, there are cheaper options available.

>>11768971
Cooking the milk doesn't eliminate the dairy element to food, but as I said, removing dairy won't necessarily clear your acne.

>>11769002
>Cut out milk. Only use milk for cooking now. I don't consume any other dairy except cheese.
So... You haven't cut out milk then? Also, note that doing this may not clear your acne, you're better off going with an effective skincare regime.
>Change pillowcasse daily.
While this can help, it's negligible when compared to a good skincare regime. Also it's inconvenient and time-consuming.
>Only use cetaphil daily facial cleanser.
There's your problem. (cont.)

>>11767589
(cont.)
as a number of other concerns.
> I've also tried toners and night serums, but they just made my skin even worse.
You must be using either inappropriate skincare for your skin type or skincare which isn't well-formulated and/or contains irritants like colour and fragrance.
>Is my only option to see a dermatologist at this point?
If you want to avoid research and buying additional products (though if you go, you still will end up buying additional products) and also be told what I just told you, then yes.
It would be very helpful if you listed your skincare regime as well as type (sensitive, oily, dry, combination etc.) and any other concerns (though you already listed them, I believe) that you have.

>>11768176
Zinc oxide is your best friend. Find a sunscreen/moisteriser that contains it and stick with it. Go for the highest spf you can find (50 is typical) and make sure that you test it out before you go so that you know it's not going to irritate your skin. Be diligent with its application and avoid direct sunlight as well as wearing clothes as well as a hat and sunglasses to reduce sunlight exposure.

>>11768907
>The irritation potential of the resulting mixture is not dependent on one ingredient
And I would agree, but in this case and for this product, you're wrong.
>You just don't seem to know how cosmetic formulation works.
>It could be a good thing to do before telling people to not use great products.
You're still being condescending.
>
You were given advice to read up on a certain subject.
Try to not take it as a personal attack.
Except that I know that I'm right and I know you're wrong and I also know that you know that you know you're wrong, which frustrates me.
SLS, in this particular solution and, in any solution and at any concentration has the ability to be very irritating, according to the incredibly reliable resources I cited.

>>11765575
(cont.)
however some brands I've found it can last basically all day, my advice would be to shop around and see which one doesn't either last all day or leave any white cast at all (it might be tinted, for example), otherwise makeup would work to cover it, but if you're not comfortable doing that I understand.

>>11765672
>>11765873
Basically what this guy said. Chemical exfoliation can lighten and in some cases remove the appearance of SFs, so that'd be your best bet. Having them forcefully removed will work, but then they'll just grow back so it's better, in the long run, to use chemical exfoliation (specifically BHA).

>>11766759
Be careful, as some essential oils do more harm than good, though I trust you know what you're doing. I, when using serums, take my moisteriser on my fingertips on one hand and then use the other to drop my serum or whatever into the moisteriser and then mix it together on my fingertips before applying to the face. Of course, you should wash your hands before doing any of this.

>>11766849
Chemical exfoliation, Vitamin C, Retinol and a number of other products will help, however, and unfortunately, you may have to see a dermatologist to help find a laser and/or chemical treatment to fix your pore size.

>>11767347
Benzoyl Peroxide probably wouldn't have made your acne worse, it is, after all, supposed to do the opposite, though it doesn't work for some people. You can use BHA combined with BP as these two work well together, though if nothing happens maybe try removing BP for around 1/2 months and see if that makes a difference.

>>11767589
Where do I start?
>Nothing seems to work.
You probably haven't been using effective skincare.
>I clean my skin
How so? Do you use a cleanser? Are you just using water? Are you doing reiki on your face?
>I also exfoliate 3-4 times a week.
What type? Physical exfoliation usually doesn't do much for enlarged pores, you should consider a BHA exfoliant that addresses this as well (cont.)

>>11763735
(cont.) expensive laser treatments and chemical peels to achieve 'perfect' skin, which is no different to the western world.

>>11763736
The article you linked is filled with buzzwords and statements which are simply incorrect like "Water-based cleansers aren't capable of removing oil-based debris because oil and water don't mix. " and "you need two different formulas to properly and thoroughly cleanse your face." I would not buy products from a company that gives incorrect skincare information.

>>11763742
CeraVe is amazing but sometimes they include really nice ingredients that would be better in a moisteriser or serum etc. which is weird and also kind of a waste. But they're basically the GOAT for drugstore-esc skincare, except that they're unavailable in lots of countries outside the US :(

>>11763764
Agreed.

>>11763771
Look at brands like Neutrogena, CeraVe and Paula's Choice - all good, typically.

>>11764023
The Vitamin C Serum >>11764837 linked is probably the best I've encountered and you can make it last ages if you buy dark bottles and refrigerate one - just read about this from a review site! You can use Retinol in addition to BP to make a more effective routine if you so wish.

>>11764157
Chemical exfoliation is your key to success, BHA is best to do what you're after, but AHA won't hurt either (though it might burn a little, but you are applying acids to your face).

>>11764952
>>11767192
tl;dr They're crap.
I use one and have no idea why after I did some research.

>>11765300
I've only used Nad's Men and I found it excessively fragrant (not in a good way) which I could forgive if it actually worked (it did not).

>>11765397
That's correct!

>>11765575
I have the same issue, I was reading about this earlier based on the conversation between STLHM and another anon and concluded to myself that basically zinc oxide is the best however it leaves white casting. I found that it only lasts for an hour or so, so it's not really an issue, (cont.)

>>11763735
(cont.)
>St. Ives Fresh Skin Exfoliator
Physical exfoliants are not nearly as gentle or as effective as chemical exfoliants and whilst I wouldn't not recommend using them, I would recommend using a chemical exfoliant instead of them.
>(3 times a week for 1 min)
>(for 30 Seconds then rinse off)
>[...]
Some people take longer or shorter to use products, so it's best to not recommend how to use it, but leave that to either the products recommendation or the users experience with the product.
>Cetaphile Normal Oil Skin Cleanser
If this woman has dry or very dry skin, I wouldn't recommend the use of this cleanser. This cleanser also uses a small amount of masking fragrance which could irritate someone with sensitive skin.
>Cerave Oily Skin FOAMING cleanser
This is an amazing cleanser, but it's designed for oily skin, so it depends on whether or not her skin is oily, dry, combination etc.
>Cetaphile moisturizer/ sunscreen
Cetaphil has some good entry-level moisteriser, but typically lacks more important ingredients and also likes to include fragrance (masking or non-masking) in their products and so should be avoided by irritation-prone skin.
> use the Exfoliator only in the AM
In fact, I'd recommend the use of exfoliation (physical, at least) at nighttime because it gives the skin a chance to repair itself and won't show any redness that might occur.
>Get a mud mask and [...]
You don't know her skin type and so shouldn't recommend a mud mask which could be excessively drying on normal or dry skin.
>p.p.s if you want some 10/10 skin care products shop at here: sokoglam . com
Koreans are P E R F E C T / 10 when it comes to skin care.
This is weird and seems like a plug for "sokoglam . com", which I can't look up because their website isn't loading. Not ALL Koreans have perfect skin and the ones that do are usually celebrities and have the money to see expensive dermatologists and have access to (cont.)

>>11763315
ingredients and all make well-formulated products. As well, if you wear makeup, you need to be taking it off every night before your skincare routine. Make sure that you use a product (Neutrogena has some great ones) that removes makeup effectively and without the use of alcohol which can irritate your skin. If you'd specifically like some product recommendations, name your price range and I'll help you out!

>>11763367
To answer your first question, a good moisteriser should include (ideally) glycerin, ceramides, cholesterol, hyaluronic acid (optional) and antioxidants. These are all very good ingredients to be included in an effective moisteriser. To answer your second question, Korean beauty products do the same things both good and bad that western products do, so I'd say that one is not better than the other (unless you're talking specifically of French skincare, in which case I'd recommend dirt over it). They both sometimes use irritating ingredients, they both market in the say way and sometimes there are brands that are just plain better than others.

>>11763368
What is your skin concern exactly? Is it acne? Also, could you provide your full routine with cleansers, toners etc. that you use as it would be very helpful.

>>11763373
STLHM (or anyone, for that matter) didn't seem to be responding to many people in this or the previoud thread so I'd thought I'd step in and help, evidenced by a bunch of people thanking me?

>>11763735
Where do I start?
>If Oily skin, Double Cleanse
If your cleanser is gentle yet effective and doesn't contain any irritating ingredients then there is no need to double cleanse.
>Wipes
Makeup and cleansing wipes are no where near as efficient as a good cleanser and water, also, to imply that only women use makeup and only women use a cleanser is counter intuitive to giving somebody advice to clear up acne.
(cont.)

>>11762566
(cont.)
>Charbonnier V, Morrison Jr B, Paye M, Maibach H. Subclinical; non-erythematous irritation with an open assay model (washing): sodium lauryl sulfate (SLS) versus sodium laureth sulfate (SLES). Food Chem Toxicol. 2001;39(3):279-86.

>It would be good if you could read up more on how product formulation alters the workings of the products on skin, if you're going to spend time on giving skincare advice to people who need help.
Please don't be condescending, I know what I'm talking about.

>>11762567
>suncreen that doesn't smell
If a sunscreen contains zinc oxide and no masking fragrance (which it shouldn't, because fragrance is typically irritating), it will usually smell a little weird, but it's not really strong enough for anyone to actually smell it on you, especially if you're wearing a cologne/perfume etc. I don't have any recommendations specifically, but stick with reputable brands like Neutrogena, CeraVe, Paula's Choice etc. that don't typically include irritating ingredients and all make well-formulated products.

>>11763188
You're welcome! :)

>>11763315
Hi there! For starters, disregard this anons >>11763735 advice, as they have recommended some really awful products, but I'll get to that in a minute (read my next few posts). You have really mild acne, I would say, and also a naturally gorgeous glow, I could go on! We really need to know if your skin is oily, dry, combination, sensitive, allergic to aspirin or its derivatives before giving you solid advice, but I can see from the photo that you probably have normal skin (not either oily or dry) and that you probably don't have rosacea or any other significant skin concern, just mild acne. In which case, I'd highly recommend the use of a simple routine which includes a cleanser, toner and Benzoyl Peroxide (BP) as well as a day and nighttime moisteriser. Make sure you're buying from reputable brands like Neutrogena, CeraVe, Paula's Choice etc. that don't typically include irritating(cont.)

>>11762566
>All ingredients have a capacity to act irritating.
And I would agree; however, that doesn't mean that there are some ingredients when, in a formula even at lower concentrations, still has the capacity to be very irritating. It doesn't make sense when there are other ingredients (like Soidum Laureth Sulphate) that do the same job as SLS but have been proven safe in solutions of any concentration.
"Sodium lauryl sulfate (SLS) is one of the most irritating cleansing agents used in skincare products. In fact, it’s considered a standard comparison substance for measuring the skin irritancy of other ingredients. Thus, in scientific studies, when they want to establish whether or not an ingredient is problematic for skin, they compare its effect to the effect of SLS. "
> Robinson V, Bergfeld W, Belsito D, Hill R, Klaassen C, Marks JJ, Shank R, Slaga T, Snyder P, Andersen A. Final report of the amended safety assessment of sodium laureth sulfate and related salts of sulfated ethoxylated alcohols. Int J Toxicol. 2010;29(4S):151S-61S.
> Löffler H, Pirker C, Aramaki J, Frosch P, Happle R, I. E. Evaluation of skin susceptibility to irritancy by routine patch testing with sodium lauryl sulfate. Eur J Dermatol. 2001;11(5):416-9.
> Löffler H, Freyschmidt-Paul P, Effendy I, Maibach H. Pitfalls of irritant patch testing using different test chamber sizes. Am J Contact Dermat. 2001;12(1):28-32.
"Despite the name similarity, sodium laureth sulfate is NOT the same as sodium lauryl sulfate. The former is a milder cleansing agent due to a higher amount and different chemical structure of the fatty alcohols required to manufacture this cleansing agent. The safety of sodium laureth sulfate has been reviewed by numerous industry experts and deemed safe as used."
>"" Point no. 1 of previous citation
(cont.)

>>11762505
Okay, well then I have a lot to work with because that price range is at the higher end of skincare. I'll probably get shit for it, but I'd still recommend Paula's Choice for skincare, as I believe it's the GOAT. It depends specifically on what you want to treat (ageing [most expensive], acne, scarring, redness, large pores), so if you could provide your skin type (sensitive, oily, dry, combination etc.) that'd really help but you can look on their website and guess which one (i.e. Resist Anti-ageing, Clear Blemish Control, Skin-Balancing etc. they're pretty self-explanatory) is best for you.

>>11762314
>>11762353
Either really is fine, whatever works for you, really. Some may argue that massaging (to some degree - pilling may occur) is better because of it stimulates the blood's circulation, but then there's not that much massage that's actually done, you'd be better off getting a facial massage.

>>11762238
(cont.) If, however, you're using a loofah with a body wash and you find the exfoliation mild at best, then daily is fine. Make your own choice based on how your skin reacts, but if you find any signs of irritation, maybe reduce the frequency and see if that makes a difference.

>>11762294
(I'm not responding on pastebin because I cbf)
>We're discussing product efficacy and safety - not ethics.
Yes, but would you recommend a product that tests on animals, knowing that the product isn't the best cleanser on the market? I know it doesn't concern the products efficiency, but still.
>It's all dependent on exposure/dose
Even with a small dosage, there is still a risk that it can be irritating and so, because we're talking about it being better than other cleansers, that definitely brings it down a notch because there is a possibility that it can irritate because of this ingredient.
>The main features of the product [...]
Except that, on the back of the product, it's 2nd thing that it says it removes is makeup effectively, so they're basically lying.
>it's one of the least irritation-prone cleansers
>it contains known irritants
Pick one.
>[...] superior to most other alternatives.
I'll give you that it's better than rubbing Elizabeth Arden's New Irritation-In-A-Can, but it's till not good.
>[...] you only recommended a decrease in application frequency.
That's exactly what I did. And I was suggesting that maybe the reaction is due to him having used too much of the product.
>I wasn't arguing against decreasing application frequency, I only explained that the irritation wouldn't decrease because of that alone.
My last remark addressed this.

>>11762312
Sunscreen and Vitamin C, other products can also help to lighten skin, but these two are best for preventing additional darkening and also to even the skin's tone. Chemical exfoliation, probably also helps with this. See a dermatologist if no skincare remedy works for you.

>>11762195
For these or any unwanted facial lines, the best thing skincare can offer is chemical exfoliation and the consistent use of sunscreen. Because fine lines fall under the 'anti-ageing' label, there are, of course, a billion companies and products that claim they have the fix to these and many other concerns. Of course, there are definitely products that contain such things as niacinamide and retinol which are very beneficial to both the prevention of but also dealing with current fine lines and other anti-ageing concerns. Do some more research and avoid makeup brands like L'Oreal etc. which always claim the have the best thing for anti-ageing because they almost always contain fragrance and colour to make the product more appealing and, more than not, are jar-set and so have their ingredients potency reduced from exposure to air (unless they're airtight when closed/have re-sealable packaging, but even then I'd look elsewhere). If, after trying various (sometimes really expensive) skincare methods to reduce the appearance of fine lines and wrinkles, definitely turn to your dermatologist to recommend the best method of removal. Do note that they can get expensive and can have massive repercussions including bleeding and pain, but that is the ugly side of the world of beauty.

>>11762224
Yes, I'd agree but certainly that doesn't really translate to how quickly you should let a product dry? Or are you saying that you'd need to let the toner do its thing before applying SA? In which case I'd agree but still doubt waiting a considerable amount of time before applying it.

>>11762238
It depends on the type of body scrub and how gentle it is. If it's something DIY or even over-the-counter which is very harsh and uses, say, sugar to physically exfoliate and you are using a lot of force to exfoliate, then probably only once or twice a week (unless your skin can take it) because otherwise you might notice redness/sensitivity. (cont.)

>>11756459
>>11761107
I retract my statement about the alcohol (Benzoyl Alcohol) in this product to be potentially irritating as it has been proved otherwise and is a naturally occurring alcohol in some fruits and teas which is completely safe. But the other thing I said about burning is just a simple detail I noticed some people said in reviews. Definitely patch test first before trying it as I see nothing wrong with it (I still can't find the ingredients to it).
Apologies to anybody that I purposefully didn't recommend a product to solely on containing this alcohol in it.

>>11761879
>>11761893
No, is your answer. You don't even have to let it dry if you don't want, though I and many others like to because it gives the feeling of the product fully 'sinking in'. I can't imagine that it would be a significant issue if you didn't wait because it's all going to sink in eventually, right?

>>11761782
(cont.)
>It would probably be wise to try to apply your message to yourself and not tell people to not use certain products just based on your own "single person" opinions.
I, if giving a product recommendation based solely upon a person asking for one, usually preface my recommendation by saying something along the lines of "but everyone's skin is different so try other products", if I don't it's probably because I can't be bothered typing it or because I should think most people use common sense. If you're referring to my consistent recommendation of Paula's Choice, I've already defended my stance, so I suggest you scroll up.
>The Cetaphil cleanser specifically has (among other things) been shown to not increase TEWL or reduce epidermal barrier function in rosacea patients, as well as being able to reduce acne lesion counts in acne vulgaris patients. It's great.
Any cleansing is better than no cleansing.
>Vaseline
Thanks, I didn't know this and thought they were using a product by Vaseline.
>It's great, since it's the simply common petrolatum.
Again, I thought they were using a product by Vaseline, but then I looked up what they said and I think you might be misinterpreting what they're saying because I believe they're talking about a product with Vaseline/petroleum in the product rather than vaseline/petroleum just by itself.
>That won't work
(In regards to AHA)
He did say he may be applying too much, which is why I recommended the usage as well as decreasing the frequency. There is definitely a reason that some chemical exfoliating (and even physical exfoliating) products recommend not using them daily, because they can irritate the skin too much for daily use and/or strip the skin's outer layer to be used daily without the skin being allowed to heal itself before using the product again.

>>11761775
I use my PC (or any) cleanser by making sure, first, that my hands are clean by washing them with some sort of hand soap. After that I wet my face (I use a headband to keep stuff out of my hair - but if you're a girl a hairtie should do it) using warm water and take about a 20c piece (I'm Australian, but like a dime? quarter? idk whatever is enough to get slightly foamy but not like you're using a carwash on your face) and put it on the tips/ends of my fingers and use gentle (not too gentle though) circular motions to get it all over my face. Most (I believe) PC Cleansers (not sure which one you're using) don't use particularly foamy ingredients because they tend to dry out the skin. You certainly can 'lather' it up by working it around your fingers/hands before applying it to your face if you so wish, but it's not necessary. You don't need a slot of cleanser for your face, it's a pretty finite area so don't think you need enough to cover your whole face - in fact it's probably better that you don't use too much.

>>11761782
>The Cetaphil Gentle Skin Cleanser is among the best cleansers available on the market today.
Cetaphil tests on animals, for starters. This cleanser also uses Sodium Lauryl Sulphate which is a known irritant (I'm not arguing this - it is) as well as not being very good at makeup removal, despite its claims.
>For most people it is not irritating at all to the skin.
This is because everyones skin is different, I could just as easily say that the crappiest cleanser available might not irritate my skin despite it containing 100s of known irritants, but to someone else, it could be incredibly irritating and could even be the source of someone's current skin state.
>Cetaphil, together with CeraVe, is recommended by multiple dermatologists...
I did not ever imply that either of these two brands are not reputable. (cont.)

>>11761524
>Very bad, simply put.
They test on animals, for starters. The second (and worse) part of that moisteriser is that not only is it good, it's actually bad.
"This body lotion is not recommended because it contains the sensitizing preservative system Kathon CG (methylisothiazolinone and methylchloroisothiazolinone). This blend is contraindicated for use in leave-on products (Sources: Contact Dermatitis, November 2001, pages 257–264; and European Journal of Dermatology, March 1999, pages 144–160)."
>tl;dr don't use it
If you don't want to be wasteful and throw it away, I'd use it as a hand cream or something, maybe.

>>11761247
>>11761524
First off, you have really naturally plump lips, so always look on the bright side! But also, to reiterate what the other anon said, try carmex if you haven't already, it contains Salicyclic Acid which is a chemical exfoliant and slowly exfoliates your lips throughout the day. As well (because idk if carmex does a lip balm with spf), consider lip balms which contain spf because they will stop the sun from stopping your skin's natural healing methods. Also, are you sure you meant 3-6 litres of water a day? Because that's getting to the point where that's actually too much water. I don't really have any other advice apart from what I just gave you other than look around more and consider different brands which (e.g. Burt's Bees use beeswax) contain alternative solutions to dry lips. If none of this has worked, definitely see a dermatologist. Also I don't think shaving will do anything.

>>11761290
Oh okay, I thought you meant a product by the company Vaseline, my apologies. I tried looking up the product you mentioned, but it's all in Norwegian which I do not speak. But if there's any way you could provide me with the products ingredients, I'd be more than happy to help!

>>11761303
Sorry which anon were you?

>>11761366
If you have the actual bottle of stuff, one pump is plenty you just have to be quick (but still gentle) in getting it allover the face and upper neck. If you're using the sample sized packets, I think (from memory) that just one or even 1/2 is plenty to use on the whole face.