TINY HOUSE GENERAL

[Anonymous No.549000]

TINY HOUSE GENERAL thread.

[Anonymous No.549001]

How do you even go about buying a container to renovate in the first place? Who do you talk to? Would it just be easier to get an abandoned one?

[Anonymous No.549002]

>>549001
You don't unless you have a fuckton of money, friends at the planning office and don't want anything convenient in your house

[Anonymous No.549003]

>>549001
>How do you even go about buying a container to renovate in the first place? Who do you talk to? Would it just be easier to get an abandoned one?
I don't know shit about making container houses.
If you want a shipping container, you look in the phone directory in your area/region for the nearest freight depot and then you call them up and ask how you can buy a shipping container. They will know where to get one and what it (and moving it) will cost you.

I've not seen any houses, but I know rural people have bought them to use for storage sheds.
I've heard rusty and dented ones sell for $1500 and not-so-rusty-and-dented ones for $3000. I have no clue what a brand-new one costs.
I have been told that sometimes they DO get abandoned at big shipping ports, so if you live near such a thing you might call them up and ask.

[Anonymous No.549006]

I have two containers myself and use them as a shed as I'm currently renting in a rural area. My good one cost about $3,000 and I'm pretty sure it was brand new, it's got little air vents on the side, then I have my banged up one which the floor was half missing. You should not pay more than $3,500 for a decent one!

[Anonymous No.549071]

>>549002
No. That isn't very accurate or in the positive spirit of 4chan. They are expensive and depending on your state/local regulations, very challenging to utilize as a residence but– bloof– here's a bunch on ebay
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.Xshipping+container&_nkw=shipping+container&_sacat=0&_from=R40

[Anonymous No.549112]

Home made with two shipping containers - http://imgur.com/a/qF25a?gallery#3Hue3

[Anonymous No.549116]

Is there any possibility of getting free shipping containers? Like at ports that have those huge stacks of them? I would think they would be happy to get rid of some of them, you would only have to pay for transportation/moving.

[Anonymous No.549149]

>>549116
>free shipping containers
maybe, you'd have to ask around at places that have them. or maybe put an ad in craigslist asking for one. somebody may have one they don't need and want to just get rid of.

I know a guy who works in one of the freight yards in the port at San Diego. Containers get unloaded and reused, normally.
He said that when a shipping container starts to get rust holes in it, nobody wants to use it anymore. So there is a recycling program where they set it aside and it gets filled with scrap steel (by a company hired to do that).
Then the whole thing gets sent back to China, where the whole thing gets dumped into a steel smelting plant and recycled.
China's domestic demand for steel is much greater than what it can produce, so they buy scrap from other countries to recycle--and this is how the scrap gets back to China.

[Anonymous No.549205]

>>549149
this, and afaik a lot of containers are 'borrowed' on a deposit they are not resold for each freight. But yes you may find some for free, I think we paid like $500 for ours (it's used to store boats over winter), plus a fuckton in shipping

[Anonymous No.549284]

[Anonymous No.549295]

I love these threads.

[Anonymous No.549300]

Bring it on

[Anonymous No.549309]

>>549071
>4chan
>positive spirit
pick one
ONLY one
>i literally started coughing and choking when i read that

Also; this guy >>549001 is right. A couple of years ago containers were cheap and plentiful. It made some sense to try to make inexpensive housing out of them. But then hipsters glommed onto it and began building with them and the container industry began trying to exploit the trend. Now, instead of calling them ISCs (international shipping containers,) they are selling them as SBMs, for standardized building modules, or some such nonsense.
They began pricing them to reflect their hipster chic status and have ruined what it was that made them useful to begin with, the fact that they were cheap.
It's cheaper to construct something on your own, now. And that's more convenient and flexible, anyway.

[Anonymous No.549335]

>>549284
I think twice this is perfect for me. But i could do with that.

[Anonymous No.549339]

>>549149
interesting. I had read that it was too expensive to ship the empty containers back to china and that it was easier to just make new ones. hence our surplus of them

[Anonymous No.549504]

>shipping containers

They're lined with all sorts of chemicals, so you'd have to completely seal them up inside and out to use them for a residence. They do look nice, though, when used well. But it's almost easier to just build it all yourself rather than use one. I mean, the metal, it would be shit for insulation, and fuck with any signals like cell phone and wifi. Hard to cut into. Rust issues if you don't seal correctly. Other methods are better IMO. Rammed earth, sandbags, brick, or traditional wood frame.

[Anonymous No.549507]

Hobbit holes are easy, good insulation, but it's a shame they look like shit.

[Anonymous No.549508]

Bus conversions must be a bitch to heat/cool, but they're mobile and easy to make. Must suck for tallfags. Also, from what I can see this bloke didn't secure his shit, so if he went to move his crap would slide everywhere. Seriously, it isn't hard to make furniture with a mobile security, lazy hippy.

[Anonymous No.549509]

This conversion is way better. This guy knows how to do. Full wood panel, look at that. Would live.

[Anonymous No.549511]

Another shipping container. This one is nice if you live somewhere it doesn't snow. Check them wooden blinds. Dunno what facilities he has hooked up, though.

[Anonymous No.549512]

>>549511

Picture, derp.

[Anonymous No.549513]

Always thought this one was interesting. Well, until some cunt comes and rolls you down a hill.

[Anonymous No.549529]

>>549513
just throw pile of dirt on it>>549507
takes care of insulation too

[Anonymous No.549531]

>>549513
You're living in a pipe dream if you think those things are habitable.

[Anonymous No.549535]

>>549531

>pipe dream

Exactly.

Why not, dust? Looks like they have a window/vent/skylight.

It would be cool for a chill spot, but a permanent dwelling, well rounded floors are no fun.

[Anonymous No.549547]

>>549535
Isnt their heat capacity to volume so high that it costs days to heat them when it gets gold? Also, this is just concrete. The round shape will act kind of parabolic and turn any sound into noise.

[Anonymous No.549571]

>>549508
He doesnt move it it stays in place, it doesn even run. It doesn have to for his purpose

[Anonymous No.549573]

>>549512
maximum derpage indeed
if you could afford real estate like that, why would you be living in a shipping container??????

[Anonymous No.549588]

>>549573

Hipsters man, also that looks like Africa.

[Anonymous No.549767]

>>549513
>Well, until some cunt comes and rolls you down a hill.

LOL

[Anonymous No.549782]

>>549529
This. Those concrete tubes are designed to be buried so you wouldn't even have to worry all that much about structural integrity.

[Anonymous No.549786]

[Anonymous No.549816]

>>549504
what chemicals?

[Anonymous No.549818]

>>549512
shooped

[Anonymous No.549832]

>>549816
They have layers and layers of paint that withstands weeks of being wet with seawater and never comes of. Next to that, a container carrying vegetables/wood/etc is usually sprayed inside and outside with chemicals that kill and repel all life in or around them... Those chemicals

[Anonymous No.549833]

>>549832
>layers of paint
>herbicide/pesticide

and what?

[Anonymous No.549835]

>>549573
looks like a concept model to me. The shipping container looks like cgi.

[Anonymous No.549866]

>>549786
nobed/10 would not nest

[Anonymous No.550686]

>>549309
Dude, pls.
This place is fuckin better than Disney World.

[Anonymous No.550696]

>>550686

like a slice of millenium falcon

[Anonymous No.550697]

>>549112

nice building. But the furniture and especially the toilet are hideous

[Anonymous No.550760]

>>549832
A container for carrying vegetables would have chemicals sprayed inside to kill and repel all life.

>maximum overderp
>implying vegetables are not living matter

You realise food containers designed to carry food are food-safe?

You realise they have to be?

Here's the facts amongst all the misinformation -

Shipping containers are graded.
Some are grade A, some grade B, etc
When they are down graded to a B or C, due to taking knocks during transport and craning, wear and tear etc
Downgrading does NOT mean they are not structurally sound.
International ports worldwide have agreed limits on amount of knocks, rust, patchup jobs pn containers.
All work is logged, and containers are logged and registered, like a car logbook.
Inspections are carried out.
Once they have been downgraded to non-shipping status, they can be decommissioned and sold.
These can be bought at port auctions ebay, etc an you CAN snag a lower grade one for less than a thousand dollars.

Those not structurally sound or that don't make any grade are ungraded, are unsafe, and are condemned and destroyed.
They are NOT authorised for sale except as scrap for recycling.

Also, refrigerated food containers are food-safe, use only food-grade linings (but should still be sealed for air quality purposes) and have zero heat transference, as they are insulated and, by design, cannot transfer heat or cold from outside in.

Often they have a refrigeration unit attached, which is essentially a built-in air conditioner if vented.
The gap left by cutting this out (which you can do with a regular cutting tool) is just about the size of a regular door too.

There is a video on youtube explaining all this from a guy who bought two and made an architects office from them.

The channel is faircompanies.

Will post link if ya want.

[Anonymous No.550789]

This is a good thread, too bad there are too many people who don't know what they are talking about chiming in. Using chemical treatment as an excuse to not renovate is like using the cold air outside as an excuse not to work out.

These aren't exactly occult topics, and these have been well researched before. The US military is using thousands of these in afghanistan right now, companies are building entire housing complexes in africa using these containers. Is it far from impossible to live in a shipping container.

If a person can't see the value in a 8' x 40' steel box for $4000 than I don't know what to tell them. Perhaps they should close 4chan, browse zillow, and open their eyes.

[Anonymous No.550792]

>>550789
I'll add I was not refering to the post above me. That is very good information on the grades of shipping containers and should clear things up that these are not boxes made solely for carting nuclear waste or dead bodies around the world.

[Anonymous No.550797]

This is a very practical idea. I hope every free thinker with tools see this and is inspired to work on their own version.

Don't listen to people who fear monger about chemicals in shipping containers. Most of those same people happily eat the produce that comes off these truck without washing them.

I live within 500 miles of the west coast. I can buy 40' shipping containers on craigslist for about 4000, if I were to search by the ocean, and ship it to my property myself I might be able to save a 1000.

Craigslist, auto trader, deals on wheels, and military surplus stores are good places to start your search.

[Anonymous No.550799]

>>550797

for reference, the average price of a single family home in my area is $160,000. Thats a savings of... 156 thousand dollars. It's not about being hip or cool, it's about making sane decisions for your future. It's about not becoming an indentured servant.

[Anonymous No.551011]

>>549509
And how much does /diy/ propose that this bus home would cost? This looks rather promising as my future home.

[teka No.551019]

>>550799
you are comparing a steel box with battered wood panels built into the bottom to an entire finished house?

try to stay realistic.

[Anonymous No.551040]

If you are looking for a shipping container, or say a large space to store things, check estate sales.
I work part time at a company that sets them up and we worked at this elderly woman's house who use to own a furniture business. She had a 40 foot trailer that sold for 100 dollars! My boss sold it so low because it sat in one place for 10 years and he thought it would be a nightmare to get out, but honestly for 100 dollars. Scrapping it he would have gotten 1000+ but again, he didn't want to deal with trying to move it. She also had a small Nissan box truck that ran and that sold 1,200. He tries to sell items like that on craigslist, so always watch and you might find the deals.

[Anonymous No.551070]

>>549509

[Anonymous No.551071]

>>551070
Surprisingly bus conversions are very popular, buses get retired and replaced all the time so somewhere in your country you might be able to get some cheap

[Anonymous No.551073]

>>551071

[Anonymous No.551074]

>>551073
They can go really badly tho

[Anonymous No.551075]

>>551074
I really want to convert an Orion VII, the high rear gives me some great ideas.

[Anonymous No.551076]

>>550686
This pic sums up this thread and the concept of tiny homes to me in a nutshell.

>Looks cool as shit
>Wait a sec
>How practical is this?
>0

[Anonymous No.551090]

>>551076
In extremely densely populated places or at a university--places where home is mostly a place to sleep--it's not entirely unpractical.

[Anonymous No.551146]

>>550686
Yeah now see, when it's rendered without the entire other wall it almost looks O.K. But now imagine that wall is actually there: you're in a room that's three feet wide. You're basically living in a corridor. Does that actually sound like fun? No. No it does not.

[Anonymous No.551192]

>>551146
I already live in a 3' corridor, that being the closet where i have my PC set up.

[Anonymous No.551280]

>>549507
What is radon?
>>549300
Neat

[Anonymous No.551456]

>>551019

You never know. He might live in San Jose, where a steel box with battered wood panels built into the bottom probably would run about $160k.

Of course, you'd probably have a hard time buying enough land to lay down on in San Jose for less than $100k, so the point is moot.

[Anonymous No.551993]

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[Anonymous No.552237]

>>549003
I don't understand this. If you're gonna buy something why not buy a large van to live in. At least in a van you can also drive around as well as live in it

[Anonymous No.552253]

>>552237

I don't understand this, why live in a van down by the river when you can't stand in it, has no storage or insulation, can't shower in, can't cook in it without exiting it and opening the rear like a tear drop trailer? vans are for people who hiding their living status, who are basically tramping for work or lack there of. Small homes are homes that are small, vans are vans that you can sleep and Google in.

Sorry for the rant, but every small house thread derails with the same van dweller trying to hype living in a box that most beds are bigger than. Why not buy a semi? You can get one with a sleeper in it, and you can hook a trailer to it for carrying all the things you own but can't put in your van. Now your mom doesn't have to store your shit.

[Anonymous No.552286]

>>552253
The most successful van story i heard was a man living in his school's parking lot.

He cooked food in the van on a small cooker.
He showers in the gym that his tuition automatically gave him a membership.
He charges his laptop, phone, and mp3 in the school.
And he spent less money at the end

[Anonymous No.552287]

>>552286
Found it

http://www.dailyfinance.com/2013/06/13/living-in-van-best-financial-decision-ever/

[Anonymous No.552290]

>>552286
Why would things like entertainment, food, cell phone & clothing be lower just because you were living in a van?

Why would car insurance, gas & maintenance be lower? If anything I'd expect those to be higher.

In fact almost everything about those figures looks wrong.

[Anonymous No.552342]

>>549284
I love seeing the pictures of these all organized and clean, then trying to imagine what it would look like after someone lived in it for 2 weeks.

[Anonymous No.552429]

>>552342

Still organized and clean. If you live in a small house, then you also aim to have less clutter in your life.

[Anonymous No.553380]

>>552286
>half assed controls
>cellphone costs go down because van

2/10 experiment. would not replicate

[Anonymous No.553531]

Bump love this shit

[Anonymous No.553550]

tiny house = $3.50
land = $40k
well = $15k
septic = $4k

[Anonymous No.553665]

>>552290
>Why would car insurance, gas & maintenance be lower? If anything I'd expect those to be higher.

Because he parked it on his school's parking lot. He didn't park it somewhere far away and drive it around: He literally just sat it there and never moved an inch.

[Anonymous No.553676]

>>553550
tiny house = $5k (16x24 max, rough lumber, you doing all the work)
land = $5k (3-4 acres in a flyover state that doesn't have oil and gas wells everywhere)
well = $2k (to pay someone else to do it and have them hit good water on the first hole); $250 (to do it yourself with the Baptist Method)
septic = $5k (tank and field); $1-2k (if you do it yourself and it passes inspection)

Total: $17,000 to $11,250 USD

Tips: A two story 16x24 will cost a lot less than a 32x24 single story because there's no extra roof or floor space that needs insulated and various other things you don't need.

[Anonymous No.553710]

>>552290
He was apparently very careful about what he spent his money on.

The van side of the chart was what he was paying for once he went homeless, cheaper cell plans, he stopped going out, buying crap ect,

He bought the van so that would have lowered the insurance rate and the maintenance costs would have gone down because of less driving and self repairs.

[Anonymous No.553717]

Fits small living and bus living

[Anonymous No.553728]

>>552286
This image really bugs me. It does not actually say anything useful about how or why one is cheaper than the other.

Is there data on building a home and the cost of maintenance over 15 years compared with converting a vehicle and maintaining it for 15 years?

You can't really assert one is cheaper than the other unless you only compare the shared characteristics.

Building a house isn't the same as building a motorhome or mini-house or even motorcycle camping.
Some advantages or disadvantages are purely aesthetic and have nothing to do with eachother.


Not to rag on it as a concept, it's just hard to directly compare two things as complicated as entire lifestyles in terms of 'this one is objectively cheaper'.

saged for my angsty rant

[Anonymous No.553733]

>>552287
I guess it makes more sense now that I get it was a total life change and not an attempt at rigorous comparisons.

[Anonymous No.553806]

Does anyone remember the guy who came here like last year and actually built himself a home out of two shipping containers?

Aside from the fact that he was redneck as fuck and had shit taste in interior decoration (wood panel EVERYTHING), all he did in the end was basically cut out all the sides and the top and used it as a shitty frame that needed fucktons of unorthodox insulation and weatherproofing.

He was also redneck as fuck. It was hilarious.

[Anonymous No.553850]

>>553806
>Scorning success and achievement by use of ad homs

Immature as fuck m8, grow up.

[Anonymous No.553854]

>>553850
>success
>achievement
Two adjectives that did not apply to this guy's shitty house in any way.

[Anonymous No.553858]

>>553854
>sets out to build a house out of shipping containers
>succeeds in his goal of building a house out of shipping containers
>not a success or achievement
>laughing_girls.jpg

I'm still guessing what your motivation for that post was, sour grapes? Jealousy? What kind of person searches for even the most barely related topics to mock what kind of house a guy built a year ago? What's wrong with you?

[Anonymous No.553877]

>>553858
Don't talk shit about what you didn't even fucking see. The guy took two shipping containers, literally removed the container sides and tops, build a wooden frame around everything, and did some really awful and sketchy insulation work since he had to work around the remaining bits of the containers. Then he covered everything in cheap wooden panelling straight out of the 70s, and expected praise. He got laughed at. A lot. I don't even think he owned the property he built that house on, he just assumed that the actual owner didn't care about it since he didn't see any activity on the lot in the year before he built the thing.

Basically he spent a lot of money on those shipping containers to throw away most of the material and build a house he could have built more easily and efficiently without them on land he didn't even own. It was not praise-worthy.

>you just have sour grapes/jealousy
Are you 14 years old?

[Anonymous No.553892]

>>553806
>Does anyone remember the guy who came here like last year and actually built himself a home out of two shipping containers?

Yes. Was that a year ago?

>wood panel EVERYTHING

You had to remind me. It looked like the place would function as needed/intended though.

>>553877
>Basically he spent a lot of money on those shipping containers to throw away most of the material and build a house he could have built more easily and efficiently without them on land he didn't even own. It was not praise-worthy.

This is the exact reason why I haven't some a similar thing, just for an insulated and heated/cooled workshop. Although, I might get a couple to slap together and only insulate one section then put a gable roof over both.

[Anonymous No.554045]

>>553550
banging qt hipsters in a chiq love nest = priceless

[Anonymous No.554047]

>>549547
Well if it's turning into gold you could just sell it and buy a new one.

[Anonymous No.554056]

I always thought recycled tires and mill-van/cargo container housing was a good cheap way to build a house. I had no idea I guess that it would be a pain in the butt to heat. Is there a tutorial out there I should look at, because this thread is amazing.

[Anonymous No.554214]

I once built a shed. It was pretty sweet and I could have slept in there if I felt like it. With a sleeping bag and everything.

[Anonymous No.554216]

>>552253
Or go with a used Atco trailer, they have all hookups. They must get old and go to auction I would think, the patch has been using them for decades.

I like the idea of a van down by the river for mobility but these trailers look solid.

Then again why not just a trailer, not sure of economics of it all which would be the reason why the unconventional arises in the first place.

[Anonymous No.554255]

>>550686
THERES JUST A LEAF SITTING THERE AS SCENERY
ONE BIG LEAF

[Anonymous No.554293]

>>549547
Just insulate it. It'd be like a stone/brick house.

[Anonymous No.554448]

Or you could probely get a subway car from New York they are literately dumping them in the ocean.

[Anonymous No.554454]

Wouldn't the acoustics be terrible in a container? Wouldn't the sound be fucking horribly when ever it rained/ snowed. Like constant loud drumming.

[Anonymous No.554455]

>>549507

I want to build my house like this.

I have pretty much everything done but what I am currently getting hung up on is how to basically rainproof it so that it doesn't get washed the fuck out after a huge rainstorm.

I thought about framing it out, then putting some sheet metal over it and welding the edges to make it sealed from leaks and rain (along with sheet metal for the 2 chimneys for air and such).

Is this viable or do I need to go bigger to not get wet?

It rains a bunch here.

[Anonymous No.554824]

>>553676
>inspection
if it needs inspected your not far enough out, also a solar septic tank can be hand made for less than 500.

[Anonymous No.554842]

Can we get a shipping container sticky already? I mean, not to piss in anybody's cereal, but the whole shipping container thing is ridiculous and I'm going to run down the (non-exhaustive) list of reasons why.

#1 They're lose a lot of strength when you start cutting windows and doors out of them.
#2 They're very small.
#2b Framing, flooring and wiring take up more precious space.
#2c Insulation becomes problematic.
#3 Welding, cutting and reinforcing metal (see #1) is more expensive than wood construction.
#4 Good luck getting a permit for one of these things.
#4b In every jurisdiction I know of, building permits for a home require a blueprint, which must be (iirc, drawn and) approved by a licensed engineer.

I get it. It's that tree house you never had as a kid. It's a manly adventure. The reality is that it's far more expensive, restrictive and inconvenient to build a structure from a steel shipping container than it is to build the same floor plan from conventional materials.

Don't believe the hype.

[Anonymous No.554940]

>>554455

bump for waterproofing.

[Anonymous No.555223]

Hmm I don't really consider myself a hipster, and love these things to death. I wonder if they're are many other *normals* interested in living small

[Anonymous No.555243]

>>555223
Married, gainfully employed, and never had a hipster moment in my life. I'd love to live in a 500 sqf or under home.

Comes from being raised by my grandparents. Their house was a very small 3 bedroom with a guest house. The guest house was maybe 400 square feet but felt like it was twice that.

[Anonymous No.555418]

The principal argument against the kind of furniture shown in this vid is that if you have the money for it, you have the money to get a larger place. But still.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrqWPP7y3xE

[Anonymous No.555739]

>>555223
I would actually rather have several small houses in different places than one large house.
Like having a 500 square foot apartment in NY and a 600 ft place in Boulder of Jackson Hole, and maybe keep a boat or barge in Seattle or N.O., instead of a single 4200 to 6000 sq,ft. place in Dallas or somewhere.

[Anonymous No.555755]

So kit homes/barns.

Practical? Cost effective? Will my council let me?

Opinions wanted.

[Anonymous No.555759]

>>555755
A gambrel roof barn type structure is a very efficient way to maximize 2nd story living space.
As >>553676 said, "A two story 16x24 will cost a lot less than a 32x24 single story because there's no extra roof or floor space that needs insulated and various other things you don't need."

[Anonymous No.555958]

>>555418
I'm not a big fan of the foldable furniture at all, I'd rather have "solid" furnishing that doesn't move around and without moving parts, seems way more durable that way.
And like you said, if you can afford that kind of stuff, you could probably afford a bigger house with simple furniture.

Interesting stuff but not for me.

[Anonymous No.555997]

this is a nice system:

http://www.weehouse.com/weemodels/

[Anonymous No.556694]

>>549149
You're not going to find free shipping containers. Ports are going to have contracts with recycling giants to take containers that get damaged or abandoned.

Not my area of expertise (I primarily do electronic and plastic scrap) but something that big could bring you several hundred dollars at a scrap yard, and it's virtually no work since it's built specifically to fit on a truck.

[Anonymous No.556695]

>>549284
>No ladder
What

[Anonymous No.556697]

>>549508
>He has to lower his head just to fit into the thing
Fuck hipsters are annoying

[Anonymous No.556701]

>>550686
>parabolic
Enjoy getting stuck when you turn around, getting burned alive in a fire, and being squashed in an earthquake.

[Anonymous No.556703]

>>551280
>What is radon?
What?

[Anonymous No.556705]

>>552286
Funny, the parking at my school would probably run you at least half your tuition, and the bathrooms/showers would be half way across campus.

[Anonymous No.556708]

>>552286
Also that budget is stupid as hell, most of that stuff has nothing to do with living in a Van.

[Anonymous No.556746]

>>556703

Radon gas (a noble element) seeps up from the ground. It's unstable, and therefore is tend to decay into Polonium. Which you breathe in. Once it decays, it is no longer a gas, and gets stuck in your lungs.

The problem is it has seven more decays after that, in your lungs, damaging you.

[Anonymous No.557146]

Anyone have links to blueprints or schematics?

[Anonymous No.557173]

>>556746
how stop

[Anonymous No.557194]

>>557146
only google pics

[Anonymous No.557204]

>>557146
I own his book in pdf form, it has everything i can upload it if you want but its 7 bucks, the guy did a lot of work, its how he makes a living, just buy his book.

[Anonymous No.557303]

youtube Austin Hay to see a high schooler who made his own tiny house after seeing the original tumbleweed house. pretty cool, took a couple years for him, he had limited shop classes, but had some financial backing from his geandparents and got materials from his dad who was rebuilding the family home after a fire. kinda cool.

[Anonymous No.557497]

It seems a lot easier and more cost effective to buy a used airstream trailer or something like that. They go for about the same price as a shipping container or a used van or bus.

It's sort of redneck and not as cool as a diy house, but I think it'd be more convenient than building a house or trying to live in a van or shipping container.

[Anonymous No.557503]

You could rent a garage or storage locker and live there. Mark from CGR used a storage locker as his office. Smuggle water in backpacks from public restrooms and have a bucket for a toilet.

You could also try to get on ssi or ssdi and get government housing. Claim you have some mental illness and you can easily get benefits. They provide you with free food, housing, and education. There is a little red tape but overall it's less of a time or money investment vs building a house or trying to eke out a living in a storage container, van, or converted bus.

[Anonymous No.557617]

>>557204
I'm not sure who "he" is but I'm more than willing to spend 7 dollars on some quality readin'. Got a link?

[Anonymous No.557977]

>>557204

I am interested in that book aswell, mind giving the title?

[Anonymous No.557982]

Has anyone got something like this as a garden room?

I've been thinking of building a shed as a garden office/game room but some of these look pretty cool.

[Anonymous No.557983]

>>551011
Buses are expensive. And you're going to need as CDL class B at least to drive one, possibly even transit licensing if you converted a transit bus. It'd be cool, though. Working for a school district, I wouldn't want to live in a bus, though.

[Anonymous No.557984]

This place looks comfy as fuck.

http://www.treehugger.com/green-architecture/skinny-house-tokyo-barely-wider-than-parking-space-yoshihito-ikeda.html

[Anonymous No.558015]

>>557146
Shitload of books on log cabins (from tiny to family house) with blueprints, covering everything from foundation to electricity&septics were printed in USSR. Most of them use very basic materials, because you can only get them back then. Some of them i have in .djvu.
Want me to translate and poast?

[Anonymous No.558082]

>>558015
would absolutely love it anon, yes please

[Anonymous No.558323]

>>558015
Yeeeeeeaaahhhhh.

[Anonymous No.558402]

>>558015
This is probably most common book related to rural house construction here in russia:
http://dwg.ru/dnl/zip/dnl1685_SHepelev_A.M._Kak_postroit_selskij_dom._M..,_Rosselhozizdat,_1980._-_351_s._.rar
(How to Build a Rural House, 1980, 351pages)
Can translate select pages on request, if enough interest will poast translated index.
The book covers basic woodworking, masonry, making foundations and walls from different materials, roofs (starting from straw&clay roof hehe), furnace building with blueprints, water heating & supply, walls plastering and decorating, windows and doors installation and making, steam bath building, lightning arresting etc.

[Anonymous No.558413]

>>558402
Also, need to add, that round lumber sucks in every possible way.
But you cannot fail using square planed lumber, notch&dowel, "paw" cut stacking. Using alaskan sawmill, chainsaw, disk saw (not to mention super-sized chain attachment to milwaukee disk saws to make precision&angled cuts in thick lumber and packets of boards) is much easier than mastering precise ax blows. And modern wood protection chems do better job than axe cuts that allegedly "close wood grain giving better protection to the wood".
Anyone who still use round lumber here are either hopeless poorfags, who get woodcutting permit very cheap or poach for construction timber.
And FYI, local forestniggers will construct 10x10 meter single store house from square beams including rough flooring and roof framework for as little as $3-4k

[Anonymous No.558414]

>putting your home in bumfuck nowhere unable to get decent internet

Sorry but but the internet is what makes up half the experience to me. I would just do this in private land where people already reside, and lines exist. Like on an empty manufactured home lot.

[Anonymous No.558433]

ISO containers come in all sorts of configurations, with side doors, open tops, cubes, highs, hoppers, halves, quarters, gondolas, and freezers. The corrugated sides and the tube edges and sides and corners really afford them strength and rigidity. Even cutting out the sides will do little to weaken the design, the entire unit is welded and is very strong and weatherproof.

Many have flooring that is teak or another tropical hardwood over the steel bottom. (Solves your flooring gripe) and with a minimalist approach, they can be a cosy cabin. Are they always going to be the best option cost-wise? No. Can someone find a used construction company office container and live in? Sure. Is it legal? Can be. (Grass huts are approved and permit-able here) many people live in multi containers here, they can blend in very well.

[Anonymous No.558435]

While living the wild life appeals to everyone at some point in time, there really are cities across this nation that have very low costs of living. Reading, Pa for example, has 3-5 bedroom townhouses for $10,000+, if you are handy and add value to the home you can always flip it. And walk away with a small profit.

The issue with innovative living is not everyone will have the same view and vision you had, especially when you want to sell it and move on....

[Anonymous No.558448]

>>554842
This.

There's a cute book showing lots of artistically done houses called something like "Handmade Houses", from back in the 1960s. Not much engineering detail, but lots of pretty pictures.

[Anonymous No.558453]

>>558435
I live in PA and recently have worked with contractors who do that type of thing. They go to foreclosed homes and bid on work that needs to be done, if they win the bid, they do the work and get paid whatever they bid.

You know, I've always wanted to see DIY elevators and such.

I want a hobbit hole with about 2 floors below for my workshop, would be cool to have a freight elevator for furniture and if possible make it strong enough to lift vehicles in and out, but I'd rather not pay the outrageous price for a freight elevator.

[Anonymous No.558774]

>>554214
I like you. Everybody else is talking about shipping crates and shit and you're just like "I built a shed once, it was neat." getting shit done.

[Anonymous No.559187]

>>549116

Obviously not, theres plenty scrap metal in a shipping container and companies want that money for scrap + sustainable image so I seriously doubt you would ever get one for free

[Anonymous No.559602]

>>549000
How do I afford one of this luxury Gmod condos?

[Anonymous No.559702]

>>550760
I want!

[Anonymous No.561156]

>>552286
i wish it were socially acceptable to live in a tiny mobile home.

[Anonymous No.561158]

I love the design of these things.

[Anonymous No.561160]

This time hopefully with the correct image.

[Anonymous No.561162]

>>555958
>>555418
Spaces are getting more expensive so there is a market for well done folding furniture. I dislike it because you have to choose what functions are available to reach at each time, i would rather need less and have it all accessible at all times.

[Anonymous No.561167]

>>556746
Where do you live? Chernobyl?

[Anonymous No.561168]

>>561167
Radon is found all over the place.

[Anonymous No.561169]

>>561167
Actually many stones emit radon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granite#Natural_radiation

Also, wheel water in some places of US and a lot of other places have considerable amounts of radiation.

[Anonymous No.561227]

i like to do quick designs for small houses as a hobby

here is the second version of a 3m^3 cube house i started last year but abandoned sometime this year

[Anonymous No.561228]

>>561227
here was the first version

[Anonymous No.561232]

here is what i've done for something i call linehouse

1m x 3m x3m

i wanted to come up with a toilet that could fold away

i figured the only appliances that could fit would be a microwave and cooler

considering the size i think there is enough storage

i was thinking schools/dorms could be done this way to be more efficient, say a group of 10 of these would have a common area with a full kitchen and shower/bathroom/living room

[Anonymous No.562118]

>>557977
Ultimate off grid guide
By lamarr alaxander
He has a channel on youtube called solar cabin. Retired teacher with health problems. Lives ultra cheap.

[Anonymous No.562168]

>>561228
Where's the bed you homo

[Anonymous No.562170]

>>561232
>1m of space behind you in a desk
Jesus fuck this would be hell.
Believe me, we have enough land that this will never become a problem.

[Anonymous No.562171]

The folks who can make shipping containers habitable have the tools and expertise to do it, but anyone with both doesn't need to live in a shipping container as a normal residence.

I have three (two 40-foot High Cubes I'm joining as a shop and on 20 for storage) and while you certainly CAN live in one, it will need to be modified essentially the same way they are as deployed living quarters by the military and civilian companies. Plenty of sites showing what that looks like, such as Sea Box.

They are highly storm-resistant. I love the gasketed storage for my equipment.

A 40 costs as much as a 20 (people like the little ones) so if you get one, get a 40 High Cube. A railroad tie under each end is sufficient support on hard ground as they are designed to be supported by the corner fittings. Have power next to it. I had my pole set with a service panel so I had 110 and 220 immediately available to run tools. You'll want a small MIG welder, a good angle grinder that takes 6" cutting discs, a 1/2" electric hand drill with bits and hole saws, and to be generally a capable person. After that, you are essentially putting guts in a mobile home. I live in SC and paint the roof white for reasonable comfort in summer. If you bother to air condition the thing it with a window unit it would be reasonably comfortable.

If you are a gearhead, you can make it work well. If you are just poor and desperate, fix what's wrong with yourself by becoming a gearhead. That solves a surprisingly large number of lifes problems!

[Anonymous No.562174]

If I suddenly had all my stuff wiped out, I'd drop a container on the land and camp out in it while rebuilding. You can leave the end doors open and put a clear strip door or other door/window combo just inboard of the main doors. Copy the commercial emergency housing kits sold for this.
ISO containers are neat for many things, but thing "industrial" if you want cost-effective use from one or several.
You can weld the corners together with a stick welder if joining containers, then cover the center joint with a strip of 2" wide x 1/8" thick steel and "stitch weld" it to both sides. Seal afterwards. I'll be doing that bit of welding on mine this weekend. (I might use my suitcase MIG feeder if I feel like dragging it up the ladder.) You can actually do all the welding with a generic AC buzzbox and 6011 rod.

[Anonymous No.562186]

>>549000
I know a bloke who had some stuff delivered in one and they never came back for it, made a good shed.

[Anonymous No.562284]

>>562118

Ohyeah, ive seen his videos, his cabin looks cozy as fuck.

[Anonymous No.563055]

Angus is busy building a "tiny house" from wooden pallets and has spent $200 so far.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/forget-straw-sticks-and-bricks-this-little-student-builds-a-house-out-of-pallets-20131204-2yqk6.html

http://www.themorningbulletin.com.au/news/only-angus-wood-build-a-house-of-pallets/2104330/

[Anonymous No.563845]

is there like a generally accepted guide to building a tiny home? Something like what /g/ has for building computers.

[Anonymous No.565012]

>>563845
I think "a tiny home" can mean so many different things, it'd be hard to make one guide that covers everything without being too one-sided.
Though there are some books on the subject, though I can't recall them now.

I've been trying to design a tiny home myself, something to live in indefinitely, I want to be as self-sufficient as I can when it comes to water and electricity.
It's tough, I don't want it to be too cramped like some of those tiny houses on wheels and I'm thinking about eliminating a bedroom and using the living area also as a sleeping area with removable beds just to create a bigger space that I can also receive guests in.
Meh I've made some sketches but it's nowhere near done yet, I'm aiming it to be a little less than 25 square meters and single floor.

And then there's the problem of where to build it, I live in a very populated country with very strict building codes so I'm not even sure if I ever get to build it.

[Anonymous No.565018]

>>563845
First you must check your local laws/codes. In many places in the USA the banking system lobbied for laws to be passed for minimum house sizes in order to drum up more and higher mortgages. Thus, in those areas you can't live in a house under x amount of square feet. Keep in mind this can either include actual laws or only be for when you actually apply for a mortgage. So, if you live in an area that does not have this retarded type of law/code then that would only affect you if you wanted to get a mortgage (and I hope you wouldn't want to in the first place.)

Once you've passed that hurdle, simply think about how you live. Plan out your interior space instead of planning the walls. Plan zones instead of rooms. You should do this for any size house, but especially for a tiny house. Try to make each space multi-duty so it is planned for you to be doing 2 or more things in that space. For instance, if you have a really small house you can get a smallish bathtub, raise it, and use it for both a bathtub and a big kitchen sink. If you want have a cook stove, you may consider using it as your home heating source as well as your cook stove. If you have a Murphy bed, you can use it as a table too by simply having a table top flip down with it. The table top would come down first as a table then the bed can flip down on top of it for when you go to sleep.

[Anonymous No.565020]

My cousin lives on this open field out in a forest. Apparently he got permission to build a cabin only because it was away from where most people hunt.

He used bricks (because he knows a guy who sold them cheap for him and because brick is more sturdy than wood for the state we live in. (high winds and such.)

He also built an outhouse, a brick BBQ, and a shed. All out of a ton of bricks. He's got solar panels on the roof and a few off-roof ones near the side of the house. He grows his own fruits and vegetables. and gathers fruits/berries from the forest as well as he hunts for his own deer meat.

All he literally does all day is make peach cobbler from the near by peach tree off the edge of the open field, grills up home grown vegetables and deer ribs and such and drinks tea.

He also has a fire place and such, with a 60" tv and a laptop (where he does his work from.)

He's living the dream as far as I'm concerned.

Unfortunately never took pics of his cabin, might do that next time he invites me over.

[Anonymous No.565034]

>>551076
I wouldn't mind a low-maintenance house like that, at least while my body is healthy.

My aunt's family for example has a really tiny two-floor condo in a city, as minimalistic as you can get, a nice sized bathroom, living room and kitchen in one room the size of a bedroom, and two bedrooms up above with just enough space for a bed and a desk. Cramped, but not so cramped that it's uncomfortable and not classy. They visit relatives there so much it's cheaper than renting a hotel room.

[Anonymous No.565053]

>>554940
You don't have to make it entirely water sealed. If you are on a hill and don't have to worry about flooding/ have good drainage in the area, you need only drop a few layers of waterproof plastic drop cloth or something similar.

[Anonymous No.565055]

>>565053
Been in the planning phase for building an underground house for about a month now.
Saving up money to buy about 6 + acres of land with some timber and hopefully stone. I've found that primitive/ pioneer/ old farming knowledge have been very beneficial. I suggest looking it up at libraries, youtube, etc.

Also I mean to come here once I have solid blueprints and share my thoughts and ideas with /diy/. As of right now I'm still working with concepts. I've got about a dozen different drafts drawn up and none quite satisfy me right now. They either cost too much, or don't have the longevity I'm seeking. I'll post my stuff in a week or so.

[Anonymous No.565065]

Carpenter here, my dream is to buy a few acres in the Poconos next to a river/creek/stream/lake, build a small cabin, and basically have a small homestread, raising a few animals and growing crops.

>mfw having a cup of tea on the porch at sunrise before starting my daily chores

[Anonymous No.565216]

>>565065
Life can be so simple yet we have to make it so complicated.

[Anonymous No.565315]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3J5wkJFJzE

I made a thread about this before noticing this thread, but i want share this video also here.

[Anonymous No.565316]

>>565315

This technique is from 1500-1700. Notice how they use axes :D

[Anonymous No.565318]

>>565012
I recall that there is quite a few books on building tiny houses. Tumbleweed is hosting a workshop nearby so I'll probably check that out.
>>565018
from what I've gathered so long as you build it on a trailer and get it classified as a mobile home or something one would feasibly be in the clear, at least in urban areas. Even further, and my dad who worked for the local county for a large amount of time, has said that codes such as those do not go enforced regularly unless someone complains about it, and I can't think of anyone in my neighborhood that wouldn't mind it.

I'm definitely going to build my house on a trailer. The idea of taking a den with you everywhere you go is so cool to me.

Also while we're at it, what do you guys think of tiny apartments?

[Anonymous No.565610]

>I'm definitely going to build my house on a trailer. The idea of taking a den with you everywhere you go is so cool to me.

They have those perfected. They are called "travel trailers". If you do choose to fab something with a more conventional "home" vibe, make it stout and make it REMOVABLE from the trailer it is on so you don't lose use of the trailer and it's easier to build. I'd be welding a strong perimeter frame from mild steel angle and basically build it with a "skid" base having tiedowns, and jacks at the corners for levelling, An electric winch on the trailer with a snatch block would winch it on and off.

[Anonymous No.565683]

>>565216
I could not ever do that. Aside from the fact that Dick Proenneke was a fantastic carpenter, his house was awful for the winter. At one point he mentions that it is a "toasty 40 degrees" inside the cabin in the winter, with a fireplace and stove. *shudders*

[Anonymous No.565719]

>>565683
What he did was quite extreme though, Alaska is a tough place and he had a friend fly in goods every month or so.
Still amazing and inspiring.

[Anonymous No.565727]

>>565719
Notice how nordic countries are at the arctic circle just like alaska is.

[Anonymous No.565734]

>>565727
Ocean currents. Nordic countries are far warmer than what they should be based on latitude

[Anonymous No.565738]

>>565734
True, but >>565727¨s map shows the 10C isotherm. You can use it for comparison.
Mr. Proenneke's cabin was apparently somewhere near Bethel or Kodiak.

[Anonymous No.565749]

>>565683
That's because it was -50F or colder outside at the time.

[Anonymous No.565753]

>>565738
>>565734
>>565727
His cabin is located at twin lakes, in the Lake Clark national park. It isn't in the arctic circle, but it is in the mountains.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Clark_National_Park_and_Preserve

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin_Lakes_%28Alaska%29

[Anonymous No.566019]

ISO containers aren't hard to work with if you understand that the best way to use them is the way industrial and military users do.
They are highly successful in those roles.
I have two High Cubes joined as a workshop and wouldn't hesitate to live in an ISO structure. If you are a gearhead they are a natural, and if another hurricane hits I'll be in my 150+mph windproof shop and not my house. Just forget the hype and consider them as a very tough mobile home. Use High Cubes, and don't even think about those little 20-footers because a 40' standard (if you can' go High Cube) is generally the same price due to people wanting the little ones for sheds.
They can be insulated easily and made quite comfortable, just "think industrial" all the way. I paint the top white and it dropped summer temps quite a bit. I'll throw in a window AC eventually but I'm lazy. I already store my welders inside (love dat gasketed storage) and ground to the shell then string out a lead when I want to change something.

[Anonymous No.566024]

There are plenty of videos of container mods, but the key is DIY to keep prices down. They are great because you have instant dry space to work with. I set a power pole and had a service panel installed before building my shop, so I'd have (no shit) power to build my shop. Electrician inspects pole, done. (I'm in a rural area.)
220 50A outlet runs my welders and compressor. 110s get lights and small tools. A holesaw works great for cutting holes for your subpanel, just spray lube it to make cutting easier. 3M 5200 sealant beats the fuck out of silicone. It's designed for through-hull use on boats.

[Anonymous No.566027]

You can actually manage welding for most ISO container mods with a basic 220 volt AC consumer buzzbox Lincoln, Miller Thunderbolt or Dayton etc. A small flux core MIG is desirable for sheet metal work but not mandatory. One that's adjustable like the Thunderbolt is better than one with discrete stops like the Lincoln but any will do. Lurk welding forums for info and PRACTICE on scrap to set your heat before welding anything which matters. An angle grinder with rocks, cutting disks, and a cup type wire brush is your friend. 6" is far better than a 4 1/2" because you can run 6" cutting disks. They have more reach, last longer, and have greater peripheral speed.
You can place ISOs with bottle jacks, pipe rollers, and manual comealongs (GOOD ones like Wyeth-Scott) as well as an electric winch if you have it. I did mine completely manually to see how it would go, and it wasn't bad.

[Anonymous No.566045]

>>555755
depends on the place

it took 6 months to build a sign at my dad's work,

but his home is in a different county so it was like $50 buck to build a prefab barn with no inspection

so it depends

[Anonymous No.566147]

>Shipping containers

Damn it, guys.

[Anonymous No.566151]

>>566147
That is not an accurate stereotype, shipping containers make shitty homes, they are hard to insulate, are cause really constrained design. They do have their occasional utility in construction but /diy/ does not idealise them.

[Anonymous No.566154]

>>566151

>They make shitty homes

Hence my reaction.

>/diy/ does not idealise them

And yet threads like these prove you wrong.

[Anonymous No.566161]

>>551040
can't stop laughing at your gif, my fucking sides

[Anonymous No.566168]

>>551075
>>551074
>>551073
>>551071
>>551070

Hey, guys? Can someone please turn a larger bus into a small, drive-around, diner please? Pic 551070 sparked this idea and I think it would be pretty fking cool. Of course there are sever precautions that should be undergone but hell, a diner like that would be one of a kind. SOMEONE PLEASE!

[Anonymous No.566194]

"That is not an accurate stereotype, shipping containers make shitty homes, they are hard to insulate, are cause really constrained design. They do have their occasional utility in construction but /diy/ does not idealise them."

If you want an elaborate conventional home then shut your hole and build one. Not everyone needs that or cares about being artistic. I prefer durability, low maintenance, high resistance to vermin and termites, and VERY high storm resistance. 9'6" high ceilings are ample, and an open floor plan isn't difficult because, shock, horror, I have welders and know how to use them. Scavenging used beams (which clean up to new condition easily) cut my cost for shop structure drastically.

I for example have a small conventional home but multiple other buildings for vehicles and shop equipment. My house could easily be replaced by four High Cubes and adding a steel building kit (Steelmaster has some examples) tied into them would give me more space than most US homes. Working out of an ISO to build your other structures including ISO mods is convenient or I wouldn't fucking do it because like all mechanics I'm fundamentally lazy.

ISOs aren't hard to insulate, demonstrated by the many insulated units deployed worldwide. YOU may have a problem insulating them in which case, don't use one. Wriite a check for a mobile home and be done with it.

http://www.seabox.com/personnelshelters.php

Fuck me, insulation in this bitch:

http://www.seabox.com/shelterpak.php

You can also spray foam the outside or shotcrete it or conventionally side it. It's metal for fucks sake. Anything from tack welding to structural adhesives to bolts and fender washers will do.

Steelmasters with or without ISOs have been made into homes, though with ISOs they are FAR stronger.

http://www.steelmasterusa.com/industrial/

[Anonymous No.566246]

>>566168

Too long to compete with food trucks, yet less space than a conventional diner. Why are you asking someone else to do it if it's such a great idea? Now go price bus + code compliant kitchen equipment including a genset/APU, HVAC, coolers, etc because unlike food trucks you have to provide climate control in a "diner bus".

[Anonymous No.566274]

>get a container
>fit the walls with insulation and inner walls
>toilet and shower
>water container outside, boxed and protected with same metal sheets as the container
>diy 4G antenna amplifier
>solar panels as well as a power outlet so you can give back to the gub'ment
>expand the container with another container when you are starting to feel claustrophobic
>start to hire rooms to students to live in
>fuck laid back hippie girls on free time
>?????
>profit

[Anonymous No.566362]

just saw this on indie gogo and thought use will like it
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/nomad-micro-home-easily-assembled-under-30k

[Anonymous No.566925]

>>551040

What's chasing the Batman?

[Anonymous No.567008]

>>566925
the jokers assault gerbil

[Anonymous No.567018]

>>557146
Those designs have such tiny windows. I think something with a floor-to-ceiling window like this would feel much airier and take better advantage of natural light.

[Anonymous No.567041]

https://mega.co.nz/#!6NYVVaCR!FRB0rhV2deaqRLBCAk-AKzsY09syYcJGm79zsUG5gcE

Learn how to make blueprints to your tiny house.

[Anonymous No.567066]

>>567018
Windows are built small to retain inside temperatures. The more window space you have, the lower your R value is; and in smaller abodes, every bit counts. Not to mention with that much visibility you'd have anyone in the nearby area staring at you. Smaller space = fewer hiding places.

[Anonymous No.567074]

>>556695
inorite

[Anonymous No.568241]

>>561160
>house thread, cool
>i wonder how many of these aren't just some manchild designer fucking around and are actually useful
>timeless yurts
yes thank you anon

[Anonymous No.568243]

>>565020
this is also based

[Anonymous No.568278]

>>549507
How hard it is to build a hobbit hole that will stand up to the weather in a place like Canada? Harsh winters and shit?

[Anonymous No.568319]

>>568278
not too hard I dont think. Just have to really make sure water can't get in due to expansion from ice. I've been told by my mennonite relatives they did something not to dissimilar when they first came to the prairies (due to nomoney) but obviously put up more normal houses when as soon as they could.

[Anonymous No.568320]

>>549309
well if you knew anything it wasn't because of hipsters that they went up in price (difficulty/phoning + costs to ship them around being the main reason they dont do it a lot more than they do) but it was due to a huge decrease in price as cutbacks on us exports caused an influx of shipping crates and there were just too many damn shipping crates that we didn't need. Hence why they were going for nearly nothing and especially non-seaworthy ones (though otherwise still perfectly fine) since why would they fix it when they have a ton of perfectly fine ones lying around.

[Anonymous No.568321]

>>554842
but shipping containers threads are /diy/'s equililent of /ck/'s ramen threads, /jp/'s plz translate xyz threads, /a/'s plz recommend anime threads, or /g/'s plz help with my computer threads.

[Anonymous No.568356]

>>556746
I heard this kind of story.. and the lower part of my house was builded (like 70 years ago) with volcanic rocks.

[Anonymous No.568358]

>>563055
tfw i have some pallets around my land and they are probably rooting.

by the way i remember i've seen a wall done with a lot of glass bottles.

[Anonymous No.568360]

>>561156
it is, if you dont live and look like a bum
hipsters would adore you, and they're pretty acceptable

[Anonymous No.568383]

I've been tossing around the idea of buying some land/lots and putting up MetroCabins on them to rent out.
Land: $15,000
MetroCabin: $33,000 (unless you get the demo model)
Insurance/taxes: $????

I could rent it out for $500-$750 a month in my area and make a decent amount of money. Theoretically. >.>

However their site looks awful and doesn't seem to give me enough information about the actual layout with or without options.

http://metroprefab.com/wp/modernprefabmetrocabin.html/

[Anonymous No.568391]

>>568360
The "shelter" model looks more reasonable for renting out, however it's close to $50k by itself.

[Anonymous No.568396]

>>565216
this is a step above caveman level.
no insulation, no way to retain heat, makes a stove and fireplace worthless

either you spend all day with a Mammoth hide on ya, or you dont live in this glorified lean-to

[Anonymous No.568403]

>561156

It is in some areas, the rural US among them. Not in others. Usually poverty is result of personal defect, but in other cultures monks are praised for their simple monastic life. You can, of course, move to those places and become one.

A house is an answer to a question, that being what combination of space, personal sanitation, and amenities suit your wishes and wallet and abilities. Every option has been explored so you may choose from them as you prefer.
Trailers are better than vans because they may be parked separate from van and used for transportation to work. When (not if) your van requires maintenance you still have a place to live while that's being done. Trailers are more internally configurable than vans. That's why there are "trailer parks" rather than van parks, though a van is fine for pulling a trailer.
Full RVs suck as daily transportation because they burn money. They can be nice to live in but are more complicated than a trailer. Non-shit RVs aren't cheap. You can tow a car or small truck for transportation with you by using a towbar.
A dually pickup and fifth-wheel trailer is a common option for workers such as welders who spend major time on the road. Their pay removes the money issues regarding buying truck and trailer, and their truck takes them to work.

[Anonymous No.568407]

"Tiny houses" normally rely on other structures to support their occupants. If you don't have full amenities you must get them somewhere. They are more often than not sort of "art projects".
If you wish to construct one and live where the climate is nice, you can certainly use an outhouse and a hand-pumped well to go off-grid. Climate is a huge influence on what works, hence the lack of igloos in Hawaii. If you live in a tiny house, you still require areas of whatever kind to DO things which don't fit indoors. Those may become outbuildings or sheds built as needed.
Everything has a PRICE POINT. If your choice is essentially "modular" (get land, put minimal cabin on it for starters for example), then a tiny house may serve you well. My uncle bought farmland, made a cabin, then built a larger house for his family, art studio, and workshop. That suited his discretionary income and now he is retired there debt-free. Below a point, going "tiny" doesn't SAVE significant money or effort, and the extra effort in some cases to live in a tiny structure outweighs the trivial effort to increase square footage a small but key amount. The "single wide" trailer home form factor is so successful because you have room to sleep/fuck/wash/cook/lounge around/store stuff. The 40' ISO shelter form factor is similar and highly successful.
When you drop to a tiny house/small trailer/20' ISO form factor that pushes many activities conveniently done under shelter outside shelter. Now compare the modest but key difference between those form factors and you'll see WHY their capabilities are so different.

[Anonymous No.568410]

>565216

His life IS complicated in an entirely DIFFERENT manner. Don't let the shack fool you. His chosen task set is HIGHLY demanding and requires life skills to match or he'll be bear shit.

[Anonymous No.568419]

>>554455
google earth ships, they have most of the advantages of a hobbit hole but you have access to your roof and everything.

[Anonymous No.568550]

>>568278
I'm from Canada too, this question is relevant to my interests!

[Anonymous No.568618]

>>549001
there about 2,000$ and thats just the small ones you get it transported to the site and setup everything before hand and move it into position.

[Anonymous No.569626]

>>567018
>have to put your feet where you prepare food to get upstairs
yeah nah

[Anonymous No.569684]

>>569626
Take your shoes off when you are inside, clean your floors, and wash your feet.

[Anonymous No.569816]

>>569684
>you just have to [X] in order to eliminate [Y] problem
that sounds like a design flaw to me. not down

[Anonymous No.569822]

>>569816
The flaw is that you live like a slob.

[Anonymous No.569827]

>>569822
Yeah I'm sure your house is so fucking spotless that you routinely eat off the floors.

[Anonymous No.569837]

>>549833
pesticides kill animals, you are an animal, constant exposure to a chemical designed to kill animals is probably not good for you.

[Anonymous No.570167]

>>550760
>>559702

Wow, this thread is still up?
LOL.

Anyway, here's the link to the youtube video I promised-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqLg3Mxnqrc

'$1800 used shipping container as architects' backyard office'

He actually put two containers together,
And in the video he explains how there is no thermal bridging, i.e. No heat or cold transference,
Very high rated insulation (basically a big fridge)
The buying process, how cheap they are, how easy they are to cut and work with, etc

There are those who like to speculate, and those who find a way.

[Anonymous No.570169]

>>570167

Here's the summary, from the video's 'about' page-

Uploaded on Dec 16, 2011
Shipping containers are built to carry huge loads and the refrigerated units are very efficient at climate control. So it's unsurprising that when they're retired from the sea, they're being used as the building blocks for homes and offices.

Given their strength they work well in earthquake country. In Berkeley, California architect Karl Wanaselja and his business partner and wife Cate Leger created their home-office using a shipping container. It cost just $1800.

Wanaselja and Leger cut their 40 foot long refrigerated unit in half and placed it in a T shape in their backyard (with the help of a crane). They didn't need to add any insulation: they're designed to not have any thermal bridging between the interior and exterior and the polyisocyanurate insulation has the highest R-value of any foam insulation.

Using a sawzall (reciprocating saw), the couple cut huge windows into the aluminum/stainless steel structure. Wanaselja says he was initially intimidated by the idea of crafting out of aluminum (the exterior material) and stainless steel (interior), but "once I got over my learning curve I actually like working with metal".

In this video, the couple talk about working in a cargo container, using materials like the soy-based plywood floor (Purebond) and the music made by rain and branches on a metal roof. -

[Anonymous No.570170]

>>570167
Whoops!

I said he bought two, actually he chopped it in half to create a T shape

[Anonymous No.570424]

>>570170
vump

[Anonymous No.570467]

>>551280
Aw ffs just don't build a hobbit hole where the radon levels are high. Also, you don't build it any deeper into the ground than any other building. That would cause a fuckton of water damage. You just build the structures, and then cover it with dirt instead of making a regular roof.
In case it's unclear, the radon comes from the bedrock, not the ground itself.

[Anonymous No.570996]

>>569822
>Walks on his kitchen counters
>Anon is a slob
Fag.