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[Anonymous No.467131]

What are some things that you make that most people would just buy?

I made a big batch of laundry detergent today along with some liquid dish soap.

Detergent

1 Cup - Mule Team Borax
1 Cup - Arm & Hammer Super Washing Soda
1 Bar - Ivory Original Soap

Mix the borax and washing soda together in a container. Grate the soap in with a cheese grater, or use a food processor if making a huge batch. Toss in with the other ingredients and mix well. Store in an air tight container.

I usually use about 2 TBSP per load, but it depends on how dirty the clothes are. I like it since it is free of most of the crap that comes in normal detergent and is also incredibly cheap by comparison. Even if you made this small batch, it should last you a few weeks. Most people make a huge batch all at once, which should last you months.

Hand/Dish Soap

2 Cups - Any liquid castille soap. I use Dr. Bronners.
.5 Cup - Water
.5 Cup - White Vinegar
1 Tsp - Lemon Juice (optional)

Mix it all together and you are good to go. I like to use a foaming pump since it makes it last a lot longer. This shouldn't be used in a dishwasher.

I also make my own body wash, shampoo and toothpaste. It really isn't that hard to make these things and you wind up saving money and not subjecting yourself to a ton of extra chemicals.

[CottonBalls !!bUovCDgfLd4 No.467133]

Well, I can't use that specific tripcode anymore.

[Anonymous No.467146]

well thats nifty, looks like I have something to research for fun, learn something new a day right?

[Anonymous No.467150]

>>467146
Exactly!

Easy to make, saves on money and you know exactly what is going into it.

[Anonymous No.467185]

>>467131
is this really cost effective?
pricing it myself, detergent is cheaper to buy pre-made.

[Radiofag No.467191]

No TSP?

[Anonymous No.467221]

>>467131
You probably spent more per load making that crap than if you just went to Costco or Sam's Club and bought a huge box or bottle of generic laundry detergent.

[Anonymous No.467226]

Food.
Learn to cook and bake.
I've got my monthly grocery bill down below $20.
When people complain that 'food is expensive' I just laugh.

I've always wanted a knitting machine to make my own fabric.
Some day...

Will be watching this thread.

[Anonymous No.467237]

>>467185

Mule Team Borax was $5.50 for 76 oz.
Super Washing Soda was $5.00 for 55 oz.
Ivory soap was $1.95 for 3 bars. 4.5 oz each (total 13.5 oz).

1 batch = 20.5 oz
2 TBSP = 1 oz

20.5 uses per batch.

If we wanted to max it out and use all of the borax it would break down to this.

Borax - $5.50
Super Wash Soda - $6.91
Soap (3 packs of 3 bars) - $5.85

Total = $18.26

Total OZ of detergent = 192 oz

192 oz = 192 batches of laundry.

Total cost per batch is .10 cents.

You can get detergent from the store for about .10 cents a batch as well if you buy store brand or from Amazon, but we don't do it entirerly to save on money. It is also about not having our soap be full of harsh chemicals and also about using fairly earth friendly stuff. It could be even more friendly if we wanted.

[Anonymous No.467238]

>>467221
>>467185

Also keep in mind that we use 2 tbsp if the load is really dirty or if it is something like sheets. Regular t-shirts, socks, underwear, etc only gets 1 tbsp, which drives the cost per load down further.

[Anonymous No.467246]

>>467237
batch... wat the unholy fuck is this ? L O A D of laundry you fucking dipshit. gtfo

[Anonymous No.467258]

>>467226
>Monthly grocery bill 20$
lucky u, not possible in canada

[Anonymous No.467286]

note if you have a front load washer then you need to use high efficiency soap...

appliance repair fag here.. and have seen plenty of washers fucked up with suds lock due to non he soap... and one dispenser that some stupid middle aged waste of space melted with homemade lye based soap...

[Anonymous No.467290]

>>467258
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Now the US with those double-dipping coupons or the UK or other parts of Europe with the really cheap food stores, it could be possible. I'm guess they're in the US though, since they used $.

[Anonymous No.467329]

>>467246
Definition of BATCH
3 : a quantity (as of persons or things) considered as a group.

>>467286
This is fine for HE washers as it creates less suds than regular detergent. That partly the reason we started using this in the first place. The ivory soap bar doesn't create too many suds.

[Anonymous No.467339]

>>467258
>>467290
Average human eats 1-1.5 lbs of dry food per day.
>25 lbs of lentils - $16
>25 lbs of split peas - $14
>50 lbs of rice - $23
>20 lbs of potatoes - $3
>25 lbs of oats - $14
>25 lbs of flour - $15
Supplement with homegrown fruits and vegetables and you're dank.

Are prices really that different elsewhere?...

[Anonymous No.467364]

>>467339
> supplement with homegrown fruits and vegetables

well that's not 20$ worth of food a month is it?
those fruits and veggies have a cost and have a value.
you're functionally retarded if you think anyone believes you live on 20$ a month...

[Anonymous No.467369]

>>467364
First of all, I said grocery bill.
And just because you're needlessly pissing away money doesn't mean the rest of us are.

I feed myself for less than $20 a month and so can you!

[Anonymous No.467372]

>>467339

The problem with this list is the average person doesn't want to actually do any cooking. They don't believe they should only eat staples and that they deserve better. They see this list and say, "What am I suppose to do with 25lbs of lentils".

According to the USDA, the average spending on food for males aged 19-50 was $324 a month. The "thrifty" spenders spent $220.

If you take this list you have here, throw in some fruit and veg along with some lean meats, you would still be spending far below the average and be eating pretty healthily. One of the major reasons this country is so fat is due to an overabundance of processed food and a general public who knows nothing of nutrition or cooking.

With this list you can make an insane amount of food, but again, the average person doesn't want to bake their own bread, make soups, etc. They would rather spend $3 on a box of pasta, $3 on a jar of sauce and $3 on a loaf of shitty "garlic bread".

What it boils down to is laziness and a lack of caring on the part of the average person. Rather than learning how to cook new things, they would rather keep eating the same old processed crap every day.

[Anonymous No.467374]

>>467369
but that's not 20$ worth of food. its much much more.

And not everyone "can" because people in cities do not live on a farm.

also, when you tell this to people, they think youre a liar.

[Anonymous No.467375]

>>467372
this is not the reason.
many people are too busy and do not have time to cook each meal from scratch, thats why.

[Anonymous No.467390]

>>467375
Ah yes, the ever present, "But I am too busy to cook." If you can find 30 minutes a day, you can cook. Make larger batches on weekends. Use a slow cooker to cook while you are gone. Focus on simple, easy to prepare dishes from those ingredients.

It really isn't that hard. I work between 8 and 16 hours a day, an usually at least one day on the weekend, yet I find time to cook all of my food.

People love to make excuses for why they can't do things that are beneficial to them.

[Anonymous No.467392]

>>467290
unless you were growing the shit yourself theres no way someone could live off of 20 bux a month unless they had like 500 calories a day.

[IMFag No.467396]

hey OP, about how much do you save doing those things? (The dish soap and laundry detergent)

I'm always looking to save some cash, if it's more than 5 bucks I'll probably start making them lol.

I don't think this really counts, but I cook all my own food and eat out absolutely no more than 5 times a month (and that's REALLY being generous, realistically it's around 1-2x)

I'm not 100% sure how much I save, but I know it's in the 3 digits per month. I figure eating 2x a day off fast food would cost around 10 bucks (not counting soda etc), that'd be around 300 bucks a month. I'm easily spending less than 100, and eating damn good I might add.

moral of the story: my generation needs to learn how to cook

[Anonymous No.467398]

>>467390
well that's fantastic that you can work 16 hours a day and prepare and cook 3-4 meals plus snacks each and every day.
You obviously have no obligation/social life outside of work.

Aside from the fact that your clearly full of shit, the reality is that quality foods costs nearly as much as takeout.
I rarely eat out (once or twice a week) but i'm certainly under no delusion that I can feed myself with quality food for under 200$ dollar a month, let alone 20$ a month.

In conclusion, weather you're pretending to live off $20 a month and secretly living on a farm, or pretending never eat out and prep all of your meal from only the rawest of ingredients while working 16 hour days, you holier-than-thou faggots posting online crack me up. you fool no one.
the end.

[Anonymous No.467406]

>>467398
>>467398

>Rarely eat out
>once or twice a week.

Pick one.

[Anonymous No.467409]

>>467398

I can spend 45 minutes cooking after work one day to give me lunch and dinner for the rest of the week. It just depends on how much you value the chance to save money.

[Anonymous No.467411]

>>467398
Does your mom still spoon feed you?

[Anonymous No.467417]

>>467406
that's rare, unless you're inbred and live in the backwoods like this guy>>467411

[Anonymous No.467445]

>>467398
>I'm like super busy, man
>hardly time to poop
>certainly no time to cook
>trolling 4chan, however, is too important to pass up

I also love it when people say "quality food" is more expensive than junk food, because then I know immediately that this nigga can't cook.

[CottonBalls !!/zRSXc8KHgQ No.467571]

[CottonBalls !!T2UdrWkLSWB No.467573]

>>467571

[Anonymous No.467609]

>>467398
Cooking for yourself is cheaper than eating out, period, end of story, millions do it every single day, and the fact that you're too lazy, too imcompetent, or both, and can't pull it off only proves that you're as violently retarded as your comment and doesn't in the least prove your so-called "point".

[Anonymous No.467611]

>>467445
>because then I know immediately that this nigga can't cook.
Exactly. Precisely. Violently retarded children who think that cooking is ZOMG WOMAN MAJIK! and that a normal person couldn't *possibly* be able to do it without spending a shit-ton of money. Hey, retard: Do you even Costco/Sams Club? Probably lives in an upper-middle-class 'burb where the high-class grocery stores are expensive as fuck, automatically gravitates to the highest-priced ingredients "because that's what Mom always buys". Nigga, please..

[Anonymous No.467619]

>>467609
I second this post.

I farm and cook for myself. I actually have more food than I can eat, so I preserve it in many ways. When my larder/pantry is full I sell or trade the rest for a good bit of profit. I actually make money with my food when all the costs are tallied and subtracted.

[Anonymous No.467626]

Borax is really bad for you OP

[Anonymous No.467638]

>>467626
What would you use instead?

[Anonymous No.467640]

>>467609
To be fair, when you get make at least $30/hr it is cheaper to pay someone else to cook for you and use the time you would have cooked to work an extra hour

DIVISION OF LABOR MOTHERFUCKER DO YOU GROK IT

you should cook for economic reasons if you can't earn a bonus at work and are a salaried employee - if you're wage, you should work instead of cook

the main reason to cook at home is for health reasons

[Anonymous No.467641]

>>467619
>works 100 hours farming every year
>could have worked job that pays $25/hr and made $2500 extra a year
>is economically efficient

[Anonymous No.467643]

>>467398
>the reality is that quality foods costs nearly as much as takeout
Sorry mate, you just shat yourself.

[Anonymous No.467645]

>>467611
>buttfrustratedassumptions

bro, if your gonna be this upset about getting told, just don't say stupid shit to begin with.

>>467619
amishplzgo

[Anonymous No.467647]

>>467643
homemade steak and potatoes 5$
value meal at mcdonalds 5$

anything else son would like to know?

[Anonymous No.467649]

>>467647
steak and potatoes from a restaurant $10 or more. You're just digging deeper, man.

If you really wanted a "value meal" mince meat costs fucking nothing. Buns cost fucking nothing. Potatoes for the fries cost fucking nothing. Total = fucking nothing.

[Anonymous No.467652]

>>467649
are you retarded? I said quality food.

[Anonymous No.467655]

I look at it this way. I have chosen to cook my own food and spend the least amount of money I can while eating the best I can. I am merely presenting these ideas to let others know it is possible to do it.

It doesn't affect me if you eat out ten times a week at the worst fast food places. It doesn't affect me if you don't think you have time to cook.

The whole point of this thread was to share ideas, not to attack others for what they do. Nobody benefits from that.

[Anonymous No.467664]

>>467652
>Quality food
>McDonalds McValue meal
So because it is more expensive to prepare a filet mignon with truffles and saffron at home than it is to go to McDonalds and buy a cheese burger, all home cooking costs as much as take out?

The shitty burger you make at home will be cheaper than the Mcshit burger you buy and it will be a better burger.

[Anonymous No.467665]

>>467641
>>467645
>making up bullshit assumptions to support your argument

This is the 21st century. Farming is one of the laziest jobs on the planet when you use the latest modern techniques.

>could have worked job that pays $25/hr and made $2500 extra a year
>could be working a job that pays $40,000/hr and made 4,000,000 extra a year. Obvious underclass mentality.

[Anonymous No.467666]

>>467641
>$2500 extra a year

Heh, that's about how much I make all year anyway, maybe more. Why are you wasting so much money that you need tons of it anon? Are you a consumer whore? Do you buy what you are told to buy? lol

[Anonymous No.467667]

>>467640
>$30/hr

LOLOLOL Why even mention such an absurd wage when all you do is sit at your PC and angrily post on 4chan?

[Anonymous No.467668]

>>467655
when people make retarded claims like "durr i eat on 20$ a month" or'work 16hrdays spend8 on4chan still cooks all ma meals" they'll get called out on it.
people will benefit from trolls getting called out, because its clarifies disinformation. this aint oprah, its 4chan, faggot.

[Anonymous No.467669]

>>467640
>you should cook for economic reasons if you can't earn a bonus at work and are a salaried employee - if you're wage, you should work instead of cook

Why do you need the extra cash? Are you living beyond your means?

[Anonymous No.467671]

I made a couple of doors for my dad's shed for father's day out of 2x6s and deck boards last weekend.
>cost
$150
>labor
~20-30 man-hours

I enjoy woodworking, but I prefer outside jobs like this because the precision standard is lower than for inside stuff. I'm apprehensive about building actual furniture for myself for this reason; anyone here make chairs/tables/whatever?

[Anonymous No.467672]

>anon doesn't spend much money
>tries to tell others how to not spend much money

>anons who spend more than they can make and are most likely in debt harass him

I don't know. I like cooking and I like growing my vegetables to use in my cooking. It tastes better than some random over cooked hamburger from whatever fast food joint you people eat from.

Well, at least I'm exceptionally better than you are. You may as well stop posting because all you're doing is mumbling..

[Anonymous No.467673]

>>467664
>quality food =steak and potatoes
>eating out = mcdonalds

I don't consider "a shitty burger I made at home" quality food.
anything else you'd like to know?

[Anonymous No.467675]

>>467665
you were so frustrated that you actually forgot to make a point.

[Anonymous No.467677]

>>467671
It is really fucking hard to find good stuff to buy anymore. Everything is so cheaply made. I made a cage for birds that cost me about $165 in materials and around 5 hours of work max. The $150-$200 versions at the hardware store are really cheaply made and people I know personally who bought them said they fall apart easily.

[Anonymous No.467680]

>>467673
If you're eating quality, it's cheaper to make steak and potatoes at home than it is to eat steak and potatoes out.

If you're eating shit, it's cheaper to make a shitty burger at home than eat a shitty mcburger out.

If you want the cheapest food (keeping your macros), you can make rice and chicken at home.

It's disingenuous of you to claim that eating out is just as cheap as cooking at home when you have different quality standards for each meal.

[Anonymous No.467679]

>>467675
>reading comprehension

You should probably start summer school now.

[Anonymous No.467681]

>>467680
It is called "trolling" anon. Stop replying to them. We all know you are correct, but they really don't give a shit about that. This shit happens in every thread ever on /ck/ about the same thing. People are just fucking stupid or want to cause trouble.

[Anonymous No.467682]

>>467672
>anons who spend more than they can make and are most likely in debt harass him

>i'm exceptionally better than you are

>stop posting, mumbling

[Anonymous No.467683]

>>467679
> still forgot to make a point

[Anonymous No.467689]

>>467680
Well I'm sorry you can't read and took the original post you quoted out of context.
but that's not my problem.
I could live off takeout for same price as my grocery bill because I choose to eat quality food.
If I wanted to live on 5 dollar footlongs and mcnuggets i'd probably save money.

still having troubles?

[Anonymous No.467690]

>>467673
You're either exceptionally stupid, to the point that you're beyond the point of trying to educate or you think you're trolling.

If it's the former: enjoy your life.
If it's the latter: word to the wise, pretending to be retarded is not going to make someone angry. Even if they believe you, no one cares if someone else has to trudge through life not knowing his dick from a door knob. Your feigned stupidity has no affect on my life or values. Try harder next time.

[Anonymous No.467695]

ITT
>anon1 makes outrageous claim
>anon2 calls him out
>anon1 can't backup intelligently backup original claim and cries troll

[Anonymous No.467698]

>>467695
>there are only two people in this thread
>I am an actual retard

[Anonymous No.467700]

>>467672
LOL BUTTFRUSTRASTED!!! learn to read and type moran!

[Anonymous No.467701]

>>467690
see>>467695

congrats, you're anon1.

[Anonymous No.467705]

>>467701
see>>467698
congrats, you're retarded

[Anonymous No.467706]

Next week I am going to try to go all week without eating anything processed. Lots of veggies and grains, going to make everything else by hand.

Want a sandwich? I am going to make the bread, spreads, roast a chicken, etc. Should be a fun challenge.

[Anonymous No.467708]

>>467640
no it isn't. if you eat out you'll get charged for: spoiled food of the restaurant (too large batches prepared), service, advertizing, bookkeeping, etc. etc. and we don't want to forget the profit.

[Anonymous No.467712]

>>467708
>>467640
they usually charge you about 400 % of the cost of the food itself (without preparation).

[Anonymous No.467717]

>>467705
>proves he is infact, anon1

GOOD JOB

[Anonymous No.467731]

>>467398
amen brotha

[Anonymous No.467750]

>>467640

Division of labor isn't a panacea to optimize the use of time. You could, in theory, pay someone to: wipe your ass, help you take a bath/shower, do your bed, help you dress, etc. But, what does that make you? A fucking baby!

Does eating out really save time? Going to a restaurant requires you to drive to a restaurant and find parking space (which would take some time if it doesn't have a parking lot), wait for a seat (especially if it's a popular restaurant) and also for your meal to be cooked. There's also time spent on the journey back home. Unless you're going to a fast food restaurant close by, you won't be saving a lot of time, only effort.

[Anonymous No.467760]

>>467750
>eating out is the same as getting someone to wipe your ass
>not having to park in a parking lot to get groceries.
>not having to wait inline at a grocery store.

you just went full retard

[Anonymous No.467764]

>>467760
"Division of labor" applies to anything that you pay someone to do for you. If you extrapolate on hiring people to do work for you to save time, that's would be a logical result if you apply the principle to its fullest potential. A person who specializes in wiping ass would know how to do it in the most efficient manner, and thus saving YOU time.

While getting groceries still require time and effort, I only I need to do it about once per week. But, if I'm eating out, I have to do it for every meal. That's a huge difference.

[Anonymous No.467770]

>>467764
are you actually retarded or just extremely desperate to be right?

>A person who specializes in wiping ass would know how to do it in the most efficient manner, and thus saving YOU time.

>Does eating out really save time?

you're making yourself look stupid as fuck

[Anonymous No.467774]

>>467750
>You could, in theory, pay someone to: wipe your ass, help you take a bath/shower
Well what if they're into that sort of thing
Checkmate atheists

[Anonymous No.467778]

>>467770
you're the one who keeps answering my posts. who's the desperate one here?

you couldn't provide any counter arguments so you resort to insults. step it up, dude.

[Anonymous No.467781]

I'm a farmer.

Stay mad.

[Anonymous No.467789]

>>467778
I don't have to post a counter argument,you did that for me.
You directly contradicted yourself and you look foolish.
You can take it as a "insult" if you wish, but you made the statements, not me.
so basically you insulted yourself...

[Anonymous No.467817]

>>467647
Dude, you know that mcdonald meat isnt really what you think it is right?

[Anonymous No.467818]

>>467647
At least the meat I get from a local guy is grass-fed and 100% beef. At least the potatoes I cook at home are Yukon Gold and taste 10 times better than anything at any fast food place.

[Anonymous No.467879]

>>467818
>at least

whut

good for you?

[Anonymous No.467886]

>>467879
When used the way it is used in >>467818 implies there's a lot more that is good than what is listed.

[Consumer Internet Defense Forc(...) No.467891]

>>467185
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>>467789
What the FUCK happened to my /diy/? Seriously when did the CIDF get here, how long has this been going on?? Fucking hell.

[Anonymous No.467896]

>>467891
And they're still not even half as annoying as you and your kind.

[Anonymous No.467899]

>>467891
you can add your asinine shitpost to that list.

wait, actually your post is worse. the other posts actually have a purpose.

[Anonymous No.467901]

>>467886
English. Do you speak it motherfucker?

[Anonymous No.467905]

>>467226 here.
Just woke up to find this...

Sorry for unintentionally hijacking your thread OP...

[Anonymous No.467975]

>>467905
It is OK. The longer I am on this site the less I care about sharing the things I do here.

I am not mad, just dissapointed.

[Anonymous No.467985]

>>467901
Obviously, you don't.

[Anonymous No.467987]

>>467975
What is happening is consumerwhores vs DIYers. I.E. trolls vs DIYers. It happens a lot. some faggot just says, "why not buy, it is cheaper that way!!" and has no clue why anyone would DIY anything except to save money or doesn't have the slightest clue as to how to save money or make anything of quality.

The only reason I post here is to turn the tide. Which I've done on many occasions. Which is why /diy/ is even here in the first place.

[Anonymous No.467990]

>>467985
>i know you are but what am i
durrrr

[Anonymous No.467991]

>>467990
0/10

[Anonymous No.467995]

>>467990
10/10

[Anonymous No.468006]

>>467987
Its just a case of overly-sensitive anons getting butthurt.
from what I see, this guy>>467372
said some dumb shit.
and then this guy>>467398
told him hard.
then the assumption shitstorm began.

moral of the story? don't post stupid shit unless you're prepared to get told.

[Anonymous No.468012]

>>468006
I think you got your quotes mixed up.

[Anonymous No.468015]

>>467131
HAY GUIES I /DIY/ED MY OWN CONCRETE FROM SCRATCH!!!!!!!!!!111~1one

I MIXED STORE BOUGHT CEMENT, STORE BOUGHT GRAVEL AND STORE BOUGHT SAND IN A BUCKET!!!! YOU SHOULD TOTALLY TRY SOME TIME!!!!

REMEMBER, HOMEMADE IS BETTER!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.468018]

>>468015
That's what I do for a living...

[Anonymous No.468026]

>>468012
umm nope, sorry.

[Anonymous No.468027]

>>468018
that thing must weigh a ton

[Anonymous No.468029]

>>468027
I forget how much exactly. ~150lbs maybe
No problem at all for 2 people to move.
Best coffee table of all time.

[Anonymous No.468030]

>>468029
do you sell these?
why so much rebar and mesh?

[Anonymous No.468031]

>>468015
Actually, making cement at home is pretty easy.

[Anonymous No.468039]

>>468018
> dem legs...

[Anonymous No.468075]

>>468030
We do kitchen countertops mostly.
And bathrooms, fireplaces, etc - 'architectural concrete'

Actually, no rebar in that - The 'mesh' is epoxied carbon fiber (this stuff called C-Grid).
Though you're right, for that piece we prolly over did it...

>>468031
>making cement
Assuming you mean concrete.
Or do you actually bake your own limestone?

>>468039
I'm no woodworker. But I think they came out great.
If you have better ideas please let me know - Always looking to try new things.

[Anonymous No.468080]

>>468075
those legs would be nice if they were flush with the outside edge.
Would give a more modern look.
>opinions

Does your company use lightweight aggregate?It can save on weight.
I haven't heard of c-grid. is that used in conjunction with fiberglass fibers?

[Anonymous No.468089]

>>468080
Mostly we just use normal gravel.
Asphalt company here sells it for dirt cheap.

We use it in place of rebar.
Though for long spans and overhangs, we'll usually throw in some pencil rod too.

You talking GFRC? We've dabbled in it. The glass replaces the aggregate and acts as the reinforcement - So no C-Grid, but we do use this other scrim stuff.

[Anonymous No.468148]

>>467891
>CIDF
please, take that language back to /pol/

[Anonymous No.468149]

>>467975
Don't give up on us OP.
We need cool people like to continue contributing.
I love this board. I've found it to be one of my favorite online communities.
Quality comes and goes, but if you can wade through the occasional shit, there are some real great people and ideas here.
/diy/strong

[Anonymous No.468151]

>>468149
stfu scrub

[Anonymous No.468160]

>>467131
>What are some things that you make that most people would just buy?

Today, I made some TIG sleeves out of black tube socks (elastic end goes by the wrist) and a solar fountain birdbath for hummingbirds. I think the TIG sleeves came out to be under $3 a pair (and I got 3 pairs now), while the fountain cost about $32. Commercially, I can't even get TIG sleeves long enough (25" or so), but the athletic sleeves are like $40 a pair. Too bad they're mostly spandex and will draw-up after enough exposure to the arc. Solar fountain birdbaths are around $250+, last time I checked.

Please note that the sleeves are ONLY good for TIG use. If you put on tube socks and try to wire or stick weld, you will burn the shit out of yourself. They're only good for keeping the UV & IR light off your skin.

[Anonymous No.468763]

>>468160

Have you tried them out yet?

[Anonymous No.468766]

I use jabon zote instead of ivory soap. Shit is so dope.

[Anonymous No.468771]

>>467226

I've been thinking about building a PVC loom to weav my own rugs and tunics, but it's so hard to find plans for one.

[Anonymous No.468792]

>>468766

The 3 soaps people seem to recommend are Ivory, Zote and some sort of Castille soap.