Ask a guy who's building a small house with his own two hands anything. Pic related, I just installed the doors and windows so it can now more or less weather the coming winter. It took me five months to get to this stage.

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Anonymous Sat Oct 29 11:38:02 2011 No.38013 [Reply] [Original]

Ask a guy who's building a small house with his own two hands anything.

Pic related, I just installed the doors and windows so it can now more or less weather the coming winter. It took me five months to get to this stage.

Anonymous Sat Oct 29 11:42:02 2011 No.38016

>>38013
How much of an issue was planning permission?
Did you get visit an architect at all?
Are you worried about subsidence/ground movement?
How long do you intend to live there?
Are you going to do the wiring/plumbing yourself?
Speaking of which, what are the plans for sanitation and electricity?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 11:42:02 2011 No.38017 Good going, looks like you've got to this stage in decent time. Also looks like you have a decent bit of space around you, is it a large plot?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 11:45:02 2011 No.38019 damn dude, that looks awesome, good work. I wish I had the time to accomplish something like this.

Anonymous Sat Oct 29 11:46:02 2011 No.38021

What kind of foundation are you doing? Is it slab construction or constructed with joists?

You did all of the framing? And good job on the windows and doors, those are something I would never want to deal with.

Have you done any interior work on electrical or plumbing?

Have you thought about pre wiring your home for a security system?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 11:51:02 2011 No.38024 most tedious part? most frustrating/difficult part?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 11:51:02 2011 No.38025 >>38013 Whats the actual size of the house? Sorry if this sounds stupid but looks pretty big for a small house. Also what climate are you building this in?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 11:57:02 2011 No.38031 >>38021 >electrical and plumbing These are my questions too. It looks like the whole house is made of cinderblocks so how are you handling these?

Anonymous Sat Oct 29 12:03:02 2011 No.38033

>>38016
>How much of an issue was planning permission?
Maybe four weeks to be done with all formalities; but it was all during last winter so I could start building as soon as the weather permitted (which was actually far later than I predicted - frozen ground and all).

>Did you get visit an architect at all?
Yeah, I have one "leading" the construction; which pretty much mostly means a quick inspection on various stages to get an "ok" for formalities. Had to make a few adjustments based on his judgement but it was all mostly in the planning stage.

>Are you worried about subsidence/ground movement?
No such problems where I live. There's a small risk of flooding as there's a river nearby, but the piece of land is on high ground and it's unlikely to be touched. Last time there was a major flood it was supposedly untouched.

>How long do you intend to live there?
Hard to say, for now it's a small step up from living in an apartment block.

>Are you going to do the wiring/plumbing yourself?
I have an uncle who's an expert in such stuff; and if he won't be of help personally (he already helped me with framing) he certainly knows who to recommend.

>Speaking of which, what are the plans for sanitation and electricity?
Settling for a septic tank, but I already have water and grid power connections.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 12:09:02 2011 No.38036 >>38031 cinder block construction doesn't usually present a problem for electrical. drywall isn't hung directly on block, there are usually firring strips. even if there's no drywall, such as a garage, you just drop wires into hollow cells.

Anonymous Sat Oct 29 12:12:02 2011 No.38040

>What kind of foundation are you doing? Is it slab construction or constructed with joists?
Proper, heavy as fuck slab work.

>You did all of the framing? And good job on the windows and doors, those are something I would never want to deal with.
My uncle who's an experienced builder helped me with the trickier parts. The windows and doors were relatively easy (if tricky), took two days.

>Have you done any interior work on electrical or plumbing?
No on the electical, yes on the plumbing. Did a lot of piping that's blinded for now.

>Have you thought about pre wiring your home for a security system?
Didn't do anything of the sort yet, haven't even thought about it.

>>38031
>These are my questions too. It looks like the whole house is made of cinderblocks so how are you handling these?
Those are aerated concrete blocks (AAC). The material is great to work with; they're lightweight for their size so it was a breeze after the backbreaking foundation slabs.

Sorry if I don't use proper terminology, I'm not a native English speaker.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 12:12:02 2011 No.38041 did you do a basement? why/why not?

Anonymous Sat Oct 29 12:19:02 2011 No.38046
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i dont know where my question went.

The vertical concrete pour, here we call it Castle, i see you make some casltes on the second floor but not on the first floor. why?

Also the "dala" the horizontal concrete pour, you put it at ceiling level, i normally see this at door/window level, where the door and windows finish, then another series of 1 or 2 blocks, then the roof. Is this common in america?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 12:25:02 2011 No.38054 Simple questions- What would you put as a rough guestimate cost? and, may we see a floor plan?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 12:26:02 2011 No.38057 >>38040 Would you mind posting the plans, I'm wondering how much space is available inside.

Anonymous Sat Oct 29 12:27:02 2011 No.38058
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>>38041
There's no basement. It's a lot of hard work I wouldn't know how to get started with and I planned on finishing the house in one spring+summer. A shame to be frank, my dream tiny house originally had a pool room with a bar underground. Could still do that upstairs I guess.

Also, the floor plan is around a hundred squere meters (96 to be exact), so it's rather small. The plot of land is weirdly proportioned, being narrow but long (pic related). I could fit in a good few more house like that lengthwise.

>>38024
>most frustrating/difficult part?
Roof part around the dormer (and the dormer itself).
NEVER AGAIN

Anonymous Sat Oct 29 12:34:02 2011 No.38066

>>38054
>>38057
I don't have the plans on hand (I'm not at home right now). I might have them somewhere online (from sending them over e-mail), I'll post them if I find them.

As for the cost, it's hard to compare between countries (I'm in Poland). The land cost me 50000zł (~$16000) and the works and materials so far around 35000zł (~$11000).

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 12:40:02 2011 No.38078 >>38066 >you will never build your own house for under $30k

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 12:42:02 2011 No.38081 >>38013 Is it a 2 story?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 12:46:02 2011 No.38082 File: 94 KB, 640x426, loftarea.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>38081 Formally, it's "single-story with upstairs loft area".

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 12:48:02 2011 No.38085 >>38082 Very nice.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 12:49:02 2011 No.38088 im really jelly OP I keep making up plans for a shipping container house. shit would be cash

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 12:52:02 2011 No.38090 >>38066 Huh, I though Poland had adopted the Euro.

Anonymous Sat Oct 29 12:55:02 2011 No.38094
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>>38046
It's common practice here in Poland at least, so the architect consulted claimed. It was formally checked and a-ok'ed, so I suppose it's fine.

The opening pic was the back (probably going to make a nice veranda there), this is the front.

Anonymous Sat Oct 29 13:04:02 2011 No.38105
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>>38090
We're obligated to based on the EU joining treaty, but there's no set date so we've been belating as much as we can (initially we were supposed to join in 2009, now it's 2014).

With the eurozone crisis maybe it might collapse before we join it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 13:05:02 2011 No.38107 >>38058 >that land plan the fuck who the fuck came up with those borders? the guys who did colonial africa?

>>	Mayor McCheese !kvCSCHEeSE Sat Oct 29 13:14:02 2011 No.38112 >>38013 Land costs? Plan costs? Permit costs? Material costs? Any issues building to code?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 13:16:02 2011 No.38113 File: 20 KB, 448x292, Quonset hut.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] op why would you choose stick-built? fucking anachronism.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 13:22:02 2011 No.38118 >>38113 >static caravan nomad

Anonymous Sat Oct 29 13:23:02 2011 No.38122

>>38113
oh shit wish i had opened a pic before my fat mouth.

ICF is fucking boss, i wish it were more common. how much did the forms cost? it seems ridiculous to me how much the two or three available systems costs, for what they are; high mark-up products annoy me and this definitely seems like a potential 1000x + one (some styrofoam and stamped plastic bits)

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 13:33:02 2011 No.38140 >>38058 Let me tell you what you need to do. Build a road by your house. Divide your land into three parts. Sell the further two.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 13:34:02 2011 No.38145 >>38105 that's a lot of lawn mowing space

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 13:38:02 2011 No.38151 Where is the insulation?

Anonymous Sat Oct 29 13:41:02 2011 No.38159

>>38122
I'm not really sure what proper "ICF" entails; those are AAC blocks which interlock at the sides but use a small amount of special mortar between upper and lower layers.

>>38112
In dollars, plans+permits ~$2000, land ~$16000, materials just below $10000; obviously finishing will cost a lot on top of that

Anonymous Sat Oct 29 13:42:02 2011 No.38163

>>38013

If I assume you live in North America, you've positioned your house to the Solar South, thus making your home efficient from a lightning and heating stand point. The choice of using stone, i.e. cinderblock, is only going to amplify this.

In other words, children, take note, this guy knows what he's doing.

Anonymous Sat Oct 29 13:45:02 2011 No.38171

>>38163
Well, it's in Europe but the same thing applies; the orientation is deliberate :)

>>38145
I didn't even know that when I bought the land, but all the shrubs at the back are wild hops. I'm into homebrewing so I might well keep some of them. Already tested some and the beer was great.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 13:46:02 2011 No.38174 >>38171 Good job, /diy/nosaur. Looks good.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 13:47:02 2011 No.38178 >>38163 how does one figure out orientation based on a photo? no trolling, just curious

scroton !SW7uh6H3p. Sat Oct 29 13:49:02 2011 No.38185

I don't know what the rent market is like near you, but if you have some extra cash and time rather than sell your extra plot space I would consider building some rent houses. I bought and moved into a duplex a short while ago and it was probably the best financial decision I've made. You have to do most repairs/renovations/upkeep yourself or you'll go broke, but it looks like you'd definitely have it covered.

Like I said, don't know what the rent market is like where you live, but it might be worth your time to see if that is a viable option.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 13:51:02 2011 No.38197 >>38178 I looked at the shadows....

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 13:51:02 2011 No.38198 >>38178 Angle of the sun.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 13:52:02 2011 No.38201 >>38113 >/diy/ >guy wants to have a prefabricated house all of my hate

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 13:53:02 2011 No.38205 >>38163 >cinderblock In other words, this guy doesn't have a clue what he's talking about

>>	scroton !SW7uh6H3p. Sat Oct 29 13:55:02 2011 No.38206 >>38205 What are you suggesting? Raised wall instead? Shipping container?

Anonymous Sat Oct 29 13:55:02 2011 No.38207

>>38205

Shut. The. Fuck. Up.

Incredible insulation properties, which he's obviously amplifying by orienting his house to receive maximum solar radiation. More than enough strength for his location. Cheap.

Seriously, shut the fuck up. You are hereby the dumbest poster on this otherwise great board.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 14:00:02 2011 No.38215 >>38206 "cinder blocks" haven't been in production in the US for about 40 or 50 years. They used ash and coal slag as aggregate which eventually failed. The proper term for what OP used to build is CMU, Concrete Masonry Unit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 14:02:02 2011 No.38220 >>38215 Oh nitpick, nitpick, nitpick. They're still referred to as cinder blocks by virtually everyone.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 14:02:02 2011 No.38221 >>38215 >I can't into colloquial usage of words protip: even wiki's search redirects "cinderblock" to CMU

>>	scroton !SW7uh6H3p. Sat Oct 29 14:05:02 2011 No.38227 >>38215 "Cinderblocks" have kinda become a catch-all term, like seran-wrap kleenex, etc. So he's a layperson. Cut him some slack.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 14:09:02 2011 No.38231 >>38178 You don't. Without a timestamp and/or geographical position it's just a lucky guess.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 14:10:02 2011 No.38232 What kind of construction loan did you get? I'm thinking of maybe building a house of my own one day, but decade-long financial obligations scare me.

Anonymous Sat Oct 29 14:19:02 2011 No.38252

>>38215
Well first off OP's in Poland so why bring up the U.S, secondly it's just a catch all term. You want to try and sound all high and mighty when in reality you just come off as a jackass. If you can point out some serious concern and give OP some constructive criticism outside of calling CMU's a term that everyone everywhere uses...GTFO

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 14:25:02 2011 No.38266 >>38252 You must be the " hurr durr I can tell by the shadows which way your house is oriented". Nice job OP, you should be proud, and good luck with your further progress. That's a beautiful house.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 14:25:02 2011 No.38268 >>38232 I didn't need one, so far it's all from savings. I make the equivalent of $2000 a month after tax so the $27000 I spent so far was pretty modest.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 14:26:02 2011 No.38270 >>38266 I made the shadows comment, I guess having common sense makes me an elitist, right? Get fucked, butthurt faggot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 14:40:02 2011 No.38294 >>38266 >You must be the " hurr durr I can tell by the shadows which way your house is oriented". Implying you can't. Oh wait. YOU can't.

Daywalker Sat Oct 29 14:43:02 2011 No.38297
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have you considered berming the structure at all? the insulative properties should help to level out your temerature, and as long as you use a good watertight outside layer to the blocks, you'll be able to stabilize your inner temp for a lot of the year.

i have a similar plan for my grandparents 1980s home in central florida.you can stack and infill used tires around the structure to keep the earth from causing too much lateral pressure or drift.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 14:51:02 2011 No.38317 >>38297 There's no space for that really. The land is rather narrow and the front and back walls need to be open.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 14:53:02 2011 No.38321 >>38297 why not build completely underground if you're going to do that?

>>	Daywalker Sat Oct 29 14:54:02 2011 No.38323 oh well. wish you the best. I'm looking for ways to build out pre-existing houses the best i can.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 14:54:02 2011 No.38324 http://www.simondale.net/house/ why not make a hobbit house?

Anonymous Sat Oct 29 14:57:02 2011 No.38334

>>38297
code enforcement would flip a bitch if you did this in cali, also moisture, frost heaving, also, im not necessarily saying this is you but, I hate it when people think half burying/berming/soil roof type shit is the answer for everything. There is a reason no civilization on the planet lives underground (or ever has) and its not some giant conspiracy by the real-estate industry. Insulation slows or stops the transfer of heat to cold areas, high thermal mass materials dont stop energy transfer, they just do it slowly. On a long enough time line, iirc a few months per foot of soil, the soil actually just normalizes to the temp of the exterior walls of the house. This might make your house heat up more slowly in the summer time during the day (good) but after the soil has absorbed all that heat during the day it then radiates it back out into your house during the night, when the ambient temp is actually cooler than the soil, making it harder to cool the house. Similarly in the winter in the day time the soil is colder than the ambient temp and its actually making your house colder. Masonry and soil and all these other materials with high thermal mass are not just some blanket solution to heating a cooling problems.

>>	Daywalker Sat Oct 29 14:58:02 2011 No.38335 >>38324 stability and building codes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 15:09:02 2011 No.38355 so, anyone know how much would something like this cost in the good ol' US of A?

Daywalker Sat Oct 29 15:10:02 2011 No.38359

>>38334
i can agree, it isn't a solution for everything. in the southern climate it can work pretty well, and in cases where you invest the time and can orient your home to best use the sun and wind that is common in your area, the better your end result can be outside of HVAC.

personally i prefer to try to get as much out of old ventilation designs as possible, and newer architecture has some great ideas about lighting and solar orientation.

as far as code enforcement, you just have to back your design up with examples, that are climate similar. central florida doesn't really get more than very minimal frost, and the soil is pretty barren, so there isnt a lot of moisture retention, but i'd be making sure to seal up the outer ecvelope as well as possible anyhow to make sure the humidity doesnt get too high.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 15:19:02 2011 No.38368 >>38355 low six digits, but there's lots of factors to consider

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 15:21:02 2011 No.38372 SOLAR WATER HEATER OP Y U NO DO THIS???

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 15:32:02 2011 No.38393 >>38372 >implying you install that kind of shit at this stage of construction

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 15:39:02 2011 No.38405 File: 71 KB, 250x250, james dean with night covers.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>38393 >2011 >building your own house >not planning ahead isygddt

Anonymous Sat Oct 29 15:48:50 2011 No.38419 [DELETED]

>>38334
fuck nigga, you know what you are talking about.

Also, not everydesign works everywhere, i read a lot of people that wants to use the sunlight to keep the house warm, in mi case i dont want the sun to hit my house because is so fucking hot here. and the winter is not so bad, the real deal is the summer, dealing with 50 Degrees, Celsius. Is not good

Anonymous Sat Oct 29 15:51:02 2011 No.38426
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how hard is it to make concrete structures

does it have a similar budget?

also small living spaces like in http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=128953596

(or both as in yamashita's "cell brick", pictured)

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 16:19:02 2011 No.38496 >>38426 protip: those tiny houses are stunts by big name architects that cost dozens of times more than normal sized houses

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 16:27:02 2011 No.38520 >>38297 Daywalker - ace diagram! What program did you use to make it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 16:55:02 2011 No.38601 >>38405 how does planning ahead translate to installing shit before it's supposed to be installed?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 16:56:19 2011 No.38602 >>38426 Some would argue that concrete, or virtually any masonry-esque medium, is easier to work with than say metal and much more forgiving than wood.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 17:08:02 2011 No.38632 >>38602 some would argue you should leave that shit to professionals and it's not supposed to be easy

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 17:14:02 2011 No.38647 >>38013 >with his own two hands >five months Sorry, have to call bullshit on that. The house isn't THAT small.

>>	TehLocksmith !UV0Nnuip0c Sat Oct 29 17:17:19 2011 No.38652 >>38632 It's plenty easy provided you do your research and take your time so it's thoroughly done correctly. Quit being a pussy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 17:51:02 2011 No.38733 >>38520 looking at the axis that's prolly sketchup

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 18:00:02 2011 No.38749 >>38647 Not OP, but seems like you don't have a clue at all.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 18:07:02 2011 No.38761 >>38647 >implying it's hard to stack up one and a half stories of cmus it could be done in two months

Anonymous Sat Oct 29 18:08:02 2011 No.38762

>>38602
I've done a concrete walkway using a small mixer. It's one hell of a lot of work. Concrete is heavy and messy and requires a lot of preparation of forms and reinforcing. I've also done a bit of wood framing. Of the two I think it would be much easier to build a structure out of wood than concrete.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 18:13:02 2011 No.38774 How is it that most people assumed OP was from the US when the car in the pics is clearly European?

>>	TehLocksmith !UV0Nnuip0c Sat Oct 29 18:16:10 2011 No.38781 >>38762 I said it was easier to work with THAN metal, and more forgiving than wood. Not that it was easier to work with THAN wood, not more forgiving than metal.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 18:37:02 2011 No.38835 >>38058 Planning on adding a /diy/ workshop/shed? Lots of place for that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 21:05:02 2011 No.39234 OP says the house is 96 sq meters, which is over a thousand squere feet. That ain't small, especially for one person.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 21:18:38 2011 No.39263 >>39234 eh, that depends; mcmansions sort of skewed the sense of scale over the last decade or two

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 29 22:58:02 2011 No.39522 >>38013 If you're building a small house like that, why not a wood construction?

>>	Mayor McCheese !kvCSCHEeSE Sat Oct 29 23:02:02 2011 No.39536 File: 8 KB, 320x240, mccheese podium.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>land ~$16000 I'm jelly unless you missed a zero

>>	Watch Sat Oct 29 23:34:02 2011 No.39638 >>39522 Because he's european and knows that real houses aren't made of cardboard.

Anonymous Sat Oct 29 23:42:02 2011 No.39661
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>>38078
>>38078
they would always buy one. This yurt is 30 feet across and costs only $10k. It doesn't come with Interior walls or flooring so that's probably cost you another $10k.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 30 00:41:02 2011 No.39772 File: 50 KB, 468x460, 1286614766397.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>38171 Oh man, this /diy/nosaur not only builds his own house, but he makes beer with the hops he finds on his property. I like this guy.

Anonymous Sun Oct 30 00:56:02 2011 No.39813

>>39661
Resale value: $0

I love atypical homes but would never own one due to their value being basically for the land its on only. Every "green" or "carbon-friendly" home I've seen built since about 2001 has been put back on the market at less than cost. The buyer usually demolishes it and builds a traditional home in it's place

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 30 01:18:02 2011 No.39892 >>38058 >Could still do that upstairs I guess. Or you could do it when you add on to this house.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 30 01:19:02 2011 No.39898 I want a small house with more basement space than aboveground space.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 30 01:20:02 2011 No.39902 >>38107 They're based on the roads and he got two back-to-back plot. Makes sense to me.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 30 01:23:02 2011 No.39916 >>38178 You can get a pretty good idea from the sun. But it's not always possible to tell where in it's arc it is, and southern hemisphere is mirrored from northern hemisphere.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 30 01:26:02 2011 No.39927 >>38321 Because then you have to make the roofs way stronger. >>38334 Some internal temperature control goes a long way towards alleviating that problem.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 30 01:27:02 2011 No.39931 >>38355 >>38355 About the same, in a poor or unpopulated area.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 30 01:28:02 2011 No.39937 >>39813 yurts are mobile tho, if you ever move you can take your home with you

Anonymous Sun Oct 30 01:32:02 2011 No.39945

>>38647
Building a house is less work than you apparently think it is. He's only got the basic shell done in five months. It's not only reasonable, it would be very unimpressive if it was all he was doing. He probably has been working some job and/or going to school at the same time.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 30 01:33:02 2011 No.39947 >>38033 I'm guessing the ground perked then. Las thing you'd want is to put in a septic tank, find out the ground won't take water. And have to get it dug up and worked on repeatedly. Shit backing up, etc.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 30 01:34:02 2011 No.39948 >>39638 His roof looks flimsier than I'd build, and I'm American.

Anonymous Sun Oct 30 08:16:02 2011 No.40466
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OP here, nice to see the thread got some replies.

>>39945
Yeah, I work eight hours from 8 am, so I mostly only had time for building during weekends and after work (the latter started becoming hard lately, as the day gets shorter and I'd only get an hour of two of sunlight after work).

>>39948
Poland doesn't really get strong winds; the area I'm building in doubly so.

>>39947
The soil is supposedly a perfect clay/sand type for a septic system (and crappy for most other uses).

>>39536
Didn't miss a zero, but the price was still amazing. I'd expect it to cost two-four times as much. I took a few months last year to look around before I bought anything. At 50000zł ($16000) for 3000 square meters it was the best bargain I got (that's just above 50 cents per square foot for you Americans out there). It may be in the middle of nowhere, but it's a well connected middle of nowhere (in the broad suburban area of a large city and with a great train connection serving it).

>>39902
Just for clarity, the plot isn't between two roads as the map would suggest. The southern line is a small river/stream. Funnily enough, it's called "Mitręga" (pic related) which is an archaic word for "Suffering" or "Torment".

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 30 08:33:02 2011 No.40495 >>40466 >Funnily enough, it's called "Mitręga" (pic related) which is an archaic word for "Suffering" or "Torment". I don't know why I giggled at that. Man I wish I could find land for that price in the US that wasn't in the middle of fucking nowhere.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 30 11:58:02 2011 No.40829 >>40466 >50 cents per square foot the fuck I thought Europe had huge real estate prices?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 30 12:08:02 2011 No.40842 Hey OP I had a dream I visited you in Poland in your new house. And it looked awesome finished (in my dream)! Sage for no actual contribution

>>	truckerfag !!xXmBuWkIT3n Sun Oct 30 12:15:02 2011 No.40853 >>40495 Have you tried detroit? Its technically still a major city.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 30 12:17:02 2011 No.40857 >>40853 Yeah but the problem is it's Detroit.

>>	truckerfag !!xXmBuWkIT3n Sun Oct 30 12:19:02 2011 No.40863 >>40857 >protip Buy the whole city and build a wall.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 30 12:21:02 2011 No.40866 File: 22 KB, 640x402, d9289c51_ce49_2735.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>40863 I like you truckerfag you're not a complete faggot like the tripfags on /v/

>>	truckerfag !!xXmBuWkIT3n Sun Oct 30 12:25:02 2011 No.40871 >>40866 I like you Anonymous you're not a complete faggot like the Anonymous on /o/

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 30 12:27:02 2011 No.40875 File: 6 KB, 274x242, 46fb43ee_2fd2_8d89.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>40871 /diy/bro's It's a shame I don't really know a craft or have space to start one. Anyways back to lurking.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 30 12:35:02 2011 No.40892 OP >apologises for English not being his first language >speaks better than the 99%

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 30 12:45:02 2011 No.40908 >>40892 Polish han/diy/man is the 1% Building his own house is taking the jobs from the 99%. OccupyPoland.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 30 12:49:02 2011 No.40911 >>40908 The Germans already did that once.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 30 13:53:02 2011 No.41043 >>38058 >Roof part around the dormer (and the dormer itself). >NEVER AGAIN dear lord, this if any architectural element is the spawn of satan it's that

Anonymous Sun Oct 30 14:24:02 2011 No.41135
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>>40863
IIRC they have had so many homes fall into disrepair and be demolished that there are blocks in detroit with only one or two houses so like a year or two ago the city started reclaiming the empty lots and then selling them to the homeowners/banks who owned the remaining adjacent homes. So now there are spots where you can literally buy an entire block and have it all to yourself.

If I had the cash and the gall id buy up a nice ass house and a bunch of the land/homes around it, demo them and then wall up the entire thing and plant a huge pleasure garden. Complete with roaming deer and shit so I could go out hunting and shoot some game and have my rich friends over for a feast and shit like I was a king

I know its never going to happen but I can dream . . .

>>	truckerfag !!xXmBuWkIT3n Sun Oct 30 14:28:02 2011 No.41144 >>41135 Yeah, but where are you going to find a nice house in detroit?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 30 14:35:02 2011 No.41151 >>41135 I'd love to buy a few foreclosed blocks in Detroit too so I can get a few tanks to just go around and completely wreck shit.

Anonymous Sun Oct 30 14:35:02 2011 No.41154

OP, did you consider something else than a sceptic tank?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constructed_wetland
We have some of these in the netherlands and are growing in popularity. Theyre pretty reliable (also works in winter) and can be cheap. Btw you cant simply dump some sand and add some reed, you would need some advice of people who deal with this shit daily.

Anonymous Sun Oct 30 14:35:02 2011 No.41155

>>41144
I cant be arsed to look up the realestate adds but a while back there was a thread in /k/ about it. Anons were just browsing around and there are actually a lot of really nice huge old houses that are just in horrible condition in some of the areas. Weird shit like, 5 bedroom 3 bath for 80k, only one neighbor on the block. And then there where tax incentives for remodeling stuff because they are trying to stop the falling population/implosion of the city. Living in the ghetto sucks but there are some genuine opportunities for some alternative living

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 30 15:11:02 2011 No.41215 >>40466 Why does that stream have such perfect sides? It looks like somebody's path that flooded.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 30 15:12:02 2011 No.41219 >>40863 >make an Arkham City type zone in Detroir >but the wall is to keep people out

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 30 15:16:02 2011 No.41225 File: 509 KB, 1383x1037, DSC00051_s.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>41043 That's a big part of why I didn't use dormers in mine, but instead desynched my roof slopes (whatever you call that) to get my windows.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 30 15:18:02 2011 No.41232 >>41144 >>41135 >buy a nice house instead of building Also >keeping deer on only one block And if it was me I wouldn't do much to plant the garden, I'd just put in a few hardy plants and see how they spread and reclaimed the area themselves.

Anonymous Sun Oct 30 15:27:02 2011 No.41259

>>41232
>keeping deer on only one block

well, the idea was actually inspired by some popes villa or something where he bought up a big section of the city and planted a forest stocked with game and then him and his guests could be at the vatican or whatever, go down the block for some hunting in the city during the day and eat the game for dinner. It just sounds so much like one of those ridiculously over the top things a european aristocrat would do

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 30 15:30:02 2011 No.41270 >>41259 Well, you need more than one block for that. And you'd be better off just finding 80 acres in the wilderness somewhere, really.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 30 15:52:02 2011 No.41333 File: 14 KB, 260x280, Kilroy_was_here.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>38094

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 30 16:27:02 2011 No.41408 I am beyond envious OP.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 30 17:00:02 2011 No.41492 >>41154 not OP, but it's a waste of space if you ask me

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 30 17:03:02 2011 No.41497 >>38082 that stepladder looks unsafe as fuck

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 30 17:05:02 2011 No.41502 >>41497 >Poland Soviet engineering. It doesn't matter if it's unsafe because there's no regulations and you're not obliged to pay workman's comp. And that philosophy still exists these 20 years later.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 30 17:28:02 2011 No.41538 How are you supporting yourself financially while you work on it?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 30 17:52:02 2011 No.41603 That's one ugly house. This house is a good example of why people need to put an architect to work to design proper houses.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 30 17:59:02 2011 No.41622 >>41603 It'll look positively quaint when he paints it.

Anonymous Sun Oct 30 18:01:02 2011 No.41630

I'm a structural engineer from an EU country. Poland is supposed to be a signatory of the new structural eurode standards. Your house does not comply with eurocode 6, and I don't believe your house was built following any structural plan. enjoy your unsafe shack

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 30 18:04:02 2011 No.41637 >>41630 >implying anyone in Poland cares about your shitty irrelevant red tape

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 30 18:10:02 2011 No.41652 >>41637 > Implying Ex-Soviet states are not the most beurocracy chocked, inefficent states on the planet.

Anonymous Sun Oct 30 18:12:02 2011 No.41656

>>38013
As a german-diy-fag who completely restored an old farmhouse built in 1905 from 2009 until last week and is now about to move in, I just say:

You´ll never feel THAT proud again when you´re standing in front of a house that was built up by your own hands with only minimal help from others.
It´s the greatest feeling I ever had.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 30 18:29:02 2011 No.41692 >>41603 And yet, I bet it'll still be standing 400 years from now.

Anonymous Sun Oct 30 18:39:02 2011 No.41717

>>41630
Isn't eurocode overriden by national codes and not the other way around? It only supplies new regulation if there wasn't any (or if the old code is removed in favor of the euro one/changed to be the same as eurocode, but no country is obligated to do this).

>>	erster deutschtroll auf /diy/ epic troll anonymous is legion Sun Oct 30 18:41:02 2011 No.41720 >>41656 halt die fresse und geh lutschen

>>	Oliver halfgood !eVU6Mx7FE6 Sun Oct 30 19:06:02 2011 No.41795 >>41717 fuck the eurocode. it's a pile of over-regulated crap if you ask me.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 30 19:08:02 2011 No.41799 >>41656 >You´ll never feel THAT proud again your face when you have a son

>>	Sun Oct 30 19:09:02 2011 No.41803 >>38013 >with my own two hands What are you going to use for raw materials after you run out of hands?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 30 19:10:02 2011 No.41806 >>41799 >proud of having a son so yeah..great job ejaculating and letting a woman do the work..i guess?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 30 19:12:02 2011 No.41809 >>41806 >>41799 >>41656 Plant a tree to complete the trifecta.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 30 19:23:02 2011 No.41839 Californiafag here just wanted to say you fucking rock OP, I hope it all works out for you. I'd love to do it here but... way bigger hassle and tremendously expensive. Fucking California.

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