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Anyone built one? Anyone got experience with these?

>> No.36942
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36942

just contributing

>> No.37005

>>36942

I have to say that doesn't look safe exactly. Might be decent protection against a hurricane or storm, but not like WW3 or something. And if you are going to block in the ceiling as well I'd think you'd need something stronger than a 2x6. Or do 12" OC or go to 2x8's with 16" OC.

>> No.37025

>>37005
You're supposed to put it in your basement.

>> No.37056

I've been wanting to build one of these for so long. I don't know to go about getting the huge ass pipe used for this one though >>36754

>> No.37084

I was OP in a similar thread in /k/ that was deemed by several to be a "good thread." I have it saved to my hard-drive: what's a quick way to screen-cap the whole thread for you guys?

>> No.37123

>>37084
upload the files?

>> No.37144

>>37123
Where? I'm kind of a newfag when it comes to this sort of thing.

>> No.37149

>>37144
http://www.mediafire.com/

>> No.37152

OP's look like someone just buried a Quonset hut

>> No.37691

Sorry this took so long, guys, I had business to attend to.

Covert shelter thread from /k/:
http://www.mediafire.com/?8h6b07gcg1lqgrc

>> No.38214

bump

>> No.38228

Glad this thread is still alive, really interesting.

>>37691
Thanks a ton, i'll be checking this out.

>> No.38286

these are plans for a bunker i drew a while ago
never got around to building it
https://www.autocadws.com/main/publish?link=SmF7ejlmczZIR2IzQlBS

https://www.autocadws.com/main/publish?link=SFpuQWo5Unhaa3pzclBE

>> No.38322

The English used these during WWII, forget the name.. Many plans and kits available

>> No.38333

>>38322
Anderson shelter

>> No.38924

The easiest way to construct a cheap bunker is to use a cargo container.
What? A goddamn cargo container, you might ask.
Here's the deal.
You use a digger to dig a hole big enough to fit the cargo container, and leave room for at least 4m of soil on top of it. This is a ~6m deep hole, usually 20m long and 5m wide.

Now, you lay out rebar on the bottom of the pit. And you fill it with concrete. A decent layer of it (50cm).
Now you put the container in the hole. You cover the sides and top with rebar & nail the container to the previously laid concrete.
You lay out an opening for the door on the far side of the container using wooden planks & sandbags. If you can't into planks & tar to keep the concrete out, don't bother making a goddamn bunker.
Now cover the top of the container with rebar.

You now cover the pit surrounding the container with concrete, up to about 50cm above the container. Depending on how old or shitty your container is, you might want to brace it with roof struts to prevent it from collapsing under the weight.

Wait till the concrete sets, cut yourself a door in the container & attach a blast door to the concrete.

You now have a bunker you won't ever need. Enjoy.

>> No.38948

>>38924
What's the point of the shipping container if you're going that extensive on the concrete foundation and roof? Might as well just put in rebar walls as well.

>> No.38952

>>38948
Didn't i tell them to put rebar in the walls too?
If not, do it fgt.

You see, the shipping container is only there to be a easy object that's both heavy, strong enough to carry a decent load, and easy to cast your concrete around.

You are obviously free to do it whatever ass backward way you like, but some of us just don't like to mess with building up a whole wooden frame.

Oh, and it'll catch the roof if it comes down after a bomb blast.

>> No.39646

>>38286
This share has been removed by its owner.

>> No.39659

I remember an old picture of how to turn your car into an emergency radiation shelter.

Unfortunately it's in the depths of my Images folder, so if I don't come back in ten days, call for help.

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>>39659

>> No.39672

>>39662

Oh, thank you, I was already reaching the tenth layer of folders.

>> No.39693

>>39672
It's in with the zipped folder of that /k/ thread.

>> No.40240

>>39659
lulz, i feel the same way. I try find the pic on google before plunging into the depths of my image folder.

>> No.40257

I want to live in one of those hillside bunkers but hobitize it a bit so it's just a regular home. It'd be really easy to heat/cool I would imagine.

>> No.40281

If someone farted in that... lol

>> No.40340

bump for greater justice

>> No.40343

>>36754

What would be the point of a shelter like that, not to mention the door, if there's a giant hole in the side?

>> No.40351

>>40343
the hole is for ventlation retarde

>> No.40353

>>40351

silly me, ofcourse.

>> No.40366

I can just imagine that some dickhead builds a shelter pre-WW2 and ends up living in the middle of no mans land like "AH FUCK WHY DIDNT I JUST LEAVE TO SOMEWHERE ELSE"

>> No.40373

The door should swing inward, though. In a tornado, for instance, one big-ass tree falling on that door would have you trapped.

>> No.40381

>>40366
Then the Germans park a panzer over the door so he's trapped inside for the rest of the war

>> No.40405

What the hell is the guy looking out the door for? He's like "Is it raining nukes yet" or something.

>> No.40418

>>36754
The image becomes really funny if you convince yourself the shelter is not see-through at the front but rather has a huge hole in it.

>> No.40447

>>40405
I laughed harder than I should've.

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since there's an underground under my house i don't think i really need to build one. actually it's more a place for me to store hardware and stuff.

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oh and of course, wood/coal cooker to keep us warm during the nuclear winter...

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finally, books. a lot of them. you don't know for how long you'll stay here, with or without electricity. so yeah.

i wonder why, it's illegal here in france to build an atomic shelter while it's mandatory in swiss, which is just a few miles from here.

>> No.40835

How the fuck do you know when to come out of a bunker in a nuke type situation?

>> No.40838

>>40835
Wait 20 years then stick your geiger counter out the door.

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>>40835
That's simple. You don't.

>> No.40848

>>40835
When your supplies are exhausted and remaining in the bunker means certain death.

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oh god, fallout shelters are my life, my girlfriend is going to be so mad when I midlife crisis and spend 50k on building a shelter

for everyone commenting on all the holes and vents for shelters, radiation isn't a gas, the point isn't to seal yourself in, but to protect yourself from the radiation waves that fallout produces. When the bomb goes off, it will coat the surface of the land with a sort of radioactive dust (fallout). For the first month or so this dust will emit deadly LINES of radiation in every direction, a few feet of concrete or any good amount of dirt completely nullifies these lines. Given that knowledge, we can still supply ourselves with air, assuming you make some sort of indirect path for the air to travel that a straight LINE of radiation cannot.

>> No.40850

>>40847
You still want some kind of air filter to keep the radioactive dust out.

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>>40835
you can actually come out for an hour every day after the first 40-50 days or so, after another month make it 2 hours/etc. use the time to see what's up, and sweep fallout away (bury it/etc.) but you should always be sleeping/living in a completely shielded area.

>> No.40876

>>40725
move. srsly u guise

>> No.40881

>>40850
yeah. These should have some kind of overpressure system.

>> No.40894

I am a civil engineer and it scares me how some "plans" are being passed which are clearly unsafe and even impossible to put in practice without putting the workers in serious danger for their lives.

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>>40725

Whats the dinosaur PC for?

oh and check em'

>> No.41209

>>40725
>illegal here in france to build an atomic shelter
>illegal
>atomic shelter
WHAT THE FUCK

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>>39646
>>39646
well shit i guess you can only share through email or for a small amount of time
o well here are the pictures of them

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>>41372

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My neighbor had one of these put in a few years ago. His is actually bigger but it mostly for stockpiling everything.

>> No.42118

Damn it. This thread really got me going! I'm looking up prices for bricks (I realised they'd be easier for me to ship) and I've started thinking about size and placement of my (hopefully) future house/getaway. I really hope I'll complete this.

>> No.43498

>>40894
Care to elaborate?

>> No.43867

>>43498
I don't know if he's talking about the shipping containers or the /k/ plans, but I can tell you shipping containers are not designed to support weight on the roof. If you pile a lot of dirt on top there's a good chance it will collapse. It's the beams inside the side walls that bear all the load, the "skin" is just there to keep out the weather. When containers are stacked like on big freight ships, you could cut away all the roofs and floors and it would still stand because they're sitting on each others walls.

>> No.45738 [DELETED] 

bumping

>> No.45959

>>43867
It's there to support the wet concrete, not even the rebar, for the top of the bunker. You could cut it away once it's settled, but it's safer not to.
Am i clear or am i clear?

Also if you're less lazy than me, you could just fill the damn thing up with soil, and dig the soil out of it later, more work tough, but guarantee that if you fill it with compacted soil it'll hold is p. good;)

>> No.45982

>>39662
Do that with a Prius for lulz.

>> No.48217 [DELETED] 

moar?

>> No.48228

>>40725
Whoa, bro, explain that whole france thing.

>> No.48260

>>40405

Looks for raining nukes every day, make sure he and his godfearing family are safe from Ivan.

>> No.48268

the whole bat/k/ave project a while ago was on a similar theme. I'll see if I can't dig up the archive.

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>>48228
>>41209
here you need the legal authorization to build one. and it needs the approval of the DDASS because there are norms and regulations. in fact nobody will ever sell you the permit to build such a thing. thanks Mitterrand for taking absurd defense decisions.

thing is because france is a nuclear power, nobody should be afraid of bombings. also for the same reason, let your people die, this will be an even better excuse to nuke your enemies.

it's like..
swiss : a guy with a sword and an armor.
france : a naked guy with a bazooka.

>> No.50604

bumpin'

>> No.50665

What people don't understand about all these "hurr durr I'm going to build a fallout shelter or stockpile supplies" Once something does happen you are the first on the chopping block for people to attack. If you think your neighbors will be "friendly" when facing sure death you are wrong. Hopefully you have enough room and food in that thing for everyone that knows you have it.

>> No.50742

>>49180
France has all the best ideas

>> No.50773

>>50665
that's why you plan ahead to kill anyone that knows anything about your safe place in the event that something does happen. You also need to plan what areas would be ideal to "visit" in the event that you get lonely and what to do if the person is unwilling to soothe your loneliness, a man has needs you know.

what kind of idiot wouldn't plan ahead like this?

>> No.51510

>>50665
People do know about mine... some people. Some are people that I know. Some are people I know that have assets I want. "Heck yeah Brian I got room for you! We will need more supplies though if your staying over. Why don't you load up the Humvee with drygoods and ammo and come on over. Pull it under the carport and we will pull the tarplins over it."
Brian arrives. Bang. Saved us a lot of trouble collecting stuff at a dangerous timeframe running around.

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>>38924
It is a lousy idea to put shipping containers underground.

Rust comes to mind.

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>> No.51554

I think if anyone was actually serious about these, we would see some more figures on oh, phhshhfffpt, how much a sqare foot of dirt weighs, and the load bearing abilities of various support materials. Instead we're talking about nuke warfare and killing all your neighbors? Stay cool bunkerbros

>> No.51557

Why the hell would you even let people know about it? I thought the point of having one was to keep it a secret. Plus,if your making holes ventilation wouldnt that defeat the purpose of preventing fallout?

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Did I mention I'm a prepper, which is why I'm into radios?

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>>51557
You have to breathe somehow.

You can filter the air.

Any HEPA filter will do.

>> No.51570

>>51557
Im more worried about the up coming invasion than Nuclear Warfare. The Sino-Anglo war is far more likely to occur.

>> No.51582

>>51560
Too bad cosmic rays go through everything.
You're fucked anyways.

>> No.51593

>>51557
The fall-out risk, if it IS a risk, comes from irradiated dust and debris. Make sure your air-inlet has a J on the top (point the opening Down. also keeps out rain) and run through a good mechanical filter or two and you are going to be fine.

>not really a super-survivalist myself.
>still want to live in a missile launch bunker.

>> No.51609

>>51582
Wat.

>>51593
One of the other concerns with shelter ventilation is an overpressure valve for when the blast hits.

>> No.51645

No-basement rentfag.
What do?

>> No.51653

A buddy of mine built one of these by burying an old shipping container in his backyard. Made it a whole lot cheaper.