How do I beat this scam?

[Anonymous No.2800616]

Fuck this shit... Its become a modern scam just like everything else... I have to pump every single day for this stupid shit so how do I set myself free from this fucking scam? yes, ofc I still want to ride around in the comfort and luxury of my 80 thousand dollar SUV.

[Anonymous No.2800619]

>>2800616
Grow sisal grass and get a bio digester and convert to methane.

Or grow sugar cane and make ethanol if you're in the tropics

[Anonymous No.2800621]

>>2800616
Shit bate mate, try harder.

[Anonymous No.2800622]

unironically electric. plugging in every day when you get home takes way less time than going to the gas station.

[Anonymous No.2800629]

>>2800619
ive looked into this unironically but fermentation takes lots of time... a month or so.. and the ethanol is made from suger crops... I dont have access to sugar crops to actually make this work at scale.. Where i live theres only trees and regular plants as far as biomass...

[Anonymous No.2800630]

>>2800616

[Anonymous No.2800635]

>>2800629
If you only have regular plants ypu need a methane digester, sugar is the only profitable ethanol source. Corn even at industrial perfect US scales is a net negative energy wise, so no matter how well you making it, you're not getting any $ for it be a use it cost you 1.2 barrels of gas to make 1 barrel of corn juice. The only profit is in the government subsidies.

Sugar cane is better and can be profitable but that doesn't grow everywhere.

[Anonymous No.2800636]

im a fat ass and i bought a bike, and my whole life i remember biking being horrible, i was always tired and worn out and wanted to stop and catch my breath. now i go on 3 hour rides for fun and can get to the other side of town in like 15 minutes. it's pretty great.

[Anonymous No.2800654]

>>2800616
>I still want to ride around in the comfort and luxury of my 80 thousand dollar SUV
You are the cancer killing the world.

[Anonymous No.2800660]

>>2800636
bikes are some of the most fuel efficient vehicles man has ever made, higher than even giant container ships. they're a practical means of transport over small distances for even an out of shape fatass. it's pretty sad that in the US they're relegated to a means of transport for children and hobos because they're far more useful than a lot of people give them credit for. only the shittiest of surburban hellholes have nothing within a 10 mile radius that you coud feasibly bike to.

[Anonymous No.2800668]

>>2800660
>biking

You either look like you're about to rob someone or take it up the ass.

[Anonymous No.2800679]

>>2800616
Electric, only that now your 80k SUV will cost 100k+. Charge at home.

[Anonymous No.2800689]

>>2800616
Buy an $80K BEV SUV. You're rich enough that fuel prices are not a real problem if your vehicle cost eighty grand so you can afford a second one to be even sillier than you already are.

[Anonymous No.2800711]

>>2800616
Walk

[Anonymous No.2800752]

>>2800616
complains about gas prices. wants to spend even more money on something he will never get to work. pic related.

[Anonymous No.2800772]

>>2800616
There really is no solution aside from switching to electric. Growing crops and converting them to fuel on a scale that will handle your day to day fuel needs is a massive undertaking that will eat up most of your free time. It would make way more sense as far as time usage is concerned to just put in a few more hours at work each week to offset fuel costs.

Also you'd need a large amount of land to grow enough crop to cover the fuel usage, which I assume is quite high considering you fill up your suv "every single day".

If your suv has a strangely small tank at like 15 gallons AND you get garbage fuel economy like 15 mpg, that's still 225 miles per day if you're filling up every single day. Perhaps you need to reevaluate your situation, maybe get a job that's closer to home, or move somewhere closer to work? Because that's a ridiculous amount of travel. Spending like 5 hours of every day driving to & from work sounds absolutely miserable.

[Anonymous No.2800802]

>>2800629
Sweet sorghum should give at least one harvest a year. You can press the juice into drums and directly pitch yeast in the field. It wipes the floor with cane and corn for ethanol but nobody except hillbillies and chinaman are aware the plant even exists.

[Anonymous No.2800836]

Buy property that has natural gas in the deed.
Convert vehicle to natural gas.
Profit.

[Anonymous No.2800841]

>>2800622
This. Electric should be government mandated for the convenience alone. Enough with these unreliable polluting ice toys already.

[Anonymous No.2800850]

>>2800836
Those russian dashcam videos of cars spontaneously exploding are caused by /diy/ natural gas or propane conversions

[Anonymous No.2800856]

>>2800841
>Electric should be government mandated
Completely impossible with our current infrastructure. The modern electrical grid is not able to distribute the amount of juice required to sustain the whole population plugging in their electric vehicles at day's end. We'd need to replace pretty much the entire electrical infrastructure.

[Anonymous No.2800874]

>>2800856
A society becomes great when old men install utility poles whose power they know they'll never drive with.

[Anonymous No.2800902]

>>2800850
Don't do a russian quality conversion?

[Anonymous No.2800955]

>>2800616
It depends on how much do you drive. I have a Diesel Mitsubishi 2007 Pajero and a full electric Toyota Proace.
I can use the Proace for 95% of my rides and charge it at home with my solar system in 4-5 hours of sun. For the rest i get in the Pajero.

[Anonymous No.2800994]

>>2800660
>bikes
>fuel efficient
My brother in christ, you, a biological organism, are not an efficient processor of fuel, at all.

[Anonymous No.2801055]

>>2800994
Did I say I was?

[Anonymous No.2801057]

>>2801055
what do you think powers the bike

[Anonymous No.2801059]

>>2801057
I put a loaf of bread on my car last week and it's still not charged yet

[Anonymous No.2801060]

>>2801059
i feed my car like a baby bird

[Anonymous No.2801063]

>>2800616
those prices are pretty good, gas is like 2-4x that price in the rest of the world.

[Anonymous No.2801079]

>>2800856
Technically you are correct, and it is a problem that needs fixing, but talking points like that are used to shut down rollouts of electric charging stations and I'm tired of it. We don't have a grid to support the chargers because we don't have a need for a grid to support the chargers because we don't have the chargers which we can't build because we don't have a grid...

I get so fuckoff tired of hearing boomers making this argument. Yes we need to upgrade the grid. We need to do a fucking TON of infrastructure upgrades in this country. Lets all start fixing one problem (Gas cars kind of suck) and use that to put pressure on fixing other problems. Yes I know it will make things cost more. I don't care. Tax the shit out of vulture "investment" firms and fix another problem while you're at it.

[Anonymous No.2801095]

>>2801063
They are even lower considering the shit ton of inflation we have.

[Anonymous No.2801101]

>>2800616
I took a couple of gas cans to these style pumps you see everywhere
the actual price per gallon is always 1-2$ more than advertised because they short you hard on amount

[Anonymous No.2801115]

>>2801101
You know a 1 gallon gas can holds more than 1 gallon if you fill it to the brim, right?

[Anonymous No.2801143]

>>2800616
get a newer hybrid like the maverick. I know it sounds gay but if you drive over 20k miles a year you'll save about $200 a month on gas over your suv. it'll end up paying for itself

[Anonymous No.2801151]

>>2801079
Gas cars are great your a piece of shit. Co2 is great for the planet. We almost became a wasteland because plants were so starved for co2

[Anonymous No.2801202]

>>2801079
No amount of copper wires or exotic dielectrics are going to make your shitter electric rollerskate any more efficient for any "grid" that still runs on oil and coal. Dipshit. All you're going to do is burn even more fossil fuel energy to overcome the loss in resistance needed to take an energy dense material and perturb it though miles of solid copper line so that your inefficient battery can lose most of it through discharging naturally by not being used. Or by electrowelding you in a faraday cage of irony because you were stupid enough to buy a car named after a man who shit on battery cars and thought they were the waste because of aforementioned reasons.

[Anonymous No.2801206]

>>2801101
Ullage, what is it?

[Anonymous No.2801279]

>>2801202
I do not and have never given a single fly fuck what someone dead 50 years thought about modern technology. You post, however (accidentally) does raise a good point. Production and distribution of electricity relies a lot on fossil fuels. This is an obvious area to improve and, shockingly, is an area the United States is improving upon! Baseload nuclear is being played around with again and it seems like 1 out of every 3 startups is trying to field a solution to the intermittency of green energy. Solar cells are somehow STILL getting cheaper and small scale wind is coming online. I'm not sure if you actually read my post, but you are making the same boomer argument everyone always does where, because a whole system isn't perfect, we shouldn't leave a broken system with little room for improvement.

Tell me, gas prices will only ever keep getting higher and there doesn't seem to be a lot more efficiency we can get out of ICE, how would you solve this problem?

[Anonymous No.2801288]

>>2801279
>I do not and have never given a single fly fuck what someone dead 50 years thought about modern technology.
He discovered the exact same rotating magnetic fields "modern technology" uses today. The wireless you're shitposting on. The same ones that quantum quacks "discover new particles" with in their colliders.

>You post, however (accidentally) does raise a good point. Production and distribution of electricity relies a lot on fossil fuels
Nuclear is the only thing more efficient at boiling water. Unless you want to figure out how magnets work and enlighten us how they should be geomanced, STFU.

>Solar cells are somehow STILL getting cheaper and small scale wind is coming online. I'm not sure if you actually read my post, but you are making the same boomer argument everyone always does where, because a whole system isn't perfect, we shouldn't leave a broken system with little room for improvement.
No, see what you don't understand is how power actually works. Explain how a windmill/wolar array perturbs an archaic hertzian waveform (the same one the guy you shit on came up with it) across thousands of miles . The answer is they don't. That's why there are diesel generators running in the background at all times regardless in order to perturb that archaic herzian waveform You don't just snyc up to a generator using shitwheels and Infared obsidian wafer rofl. How stupid are you?
>Tell me, gas prices will only ever keep getting higher and there doesn't seem to be a lot more efficiency we can get out of ICE, how would you solve this problem?
By stopping green energy regulations and drilling our own oil so it's no longer shipped on Warren Buffets trains from Canada. Too busy with shutting pipelines down I guess (which alleviates the inefficient transport via train rofl). The problem is the power is wasted as heat that could be converted to electricity for use. You could have 200mpg cars this way, but all of them unfortunately would violate the EPA.

[Anonymous No.2801290]

>>2801288
>No, see what you don't understand is how power actually works. Explain how a windmill/wolar array perturbs an archaic hertzian waveform (the same one the guy you shit on came up with it) across thousands of miles . The answer is they don't. That's why there are diesel generators running in the background at all times regardless in order to perturb that archaic herzian waveform You don't just snyc up to a generator using shitwheels and Infared obsidian wafer rofl. How stupid are you?

oh, you're crazy.

ok.

have a nice life.

[Anonymous No.2801307]

Even if you have shitty mpg and drive alot .... your annual fuel cost is under
5000
Lol so think deeper and realize the real ripoff is the rent/ mortgage and food that costs much more

[Anonymous No.2801312]

Between 30k used vehicles and $5 a fucking gallon gas, theyre trying to phase us out!!!

[Anonymous No.2801369]

>>2801290
I bet you believe electricity "travels" and "has a speed" too.

[Anonymous No.2801429]

>>2801369
I know this might sound dismissive, but I lost my brother to suicide not long after he started saying things like this. You are suffering from delusions and need help.

[Anonymous No.2801454]

>>2801429
do 4chan schizos ever kill themselves? I thought this website was some kind of twisted therapy for them.

[Anonymous No.2801472]

>>2800616
If your in the south, grow seed oil crops and make biodiesel.
If your in the north, grow sorghum and make ethanol.
If your more tech oriented, convert an older 90s car truck to electric (old nissan leaf parts are good for this) and charge it with solar.
ride a bike or walk you fatass.

[Anonymous No.2801474]

>>2801454
>I thought this website was some kind of twisted therapy for them.

I'm pretty sure this is literally one of the worst places for them to be, ngl.

I mean, to be fair, it's one of the worst places to be when you're not a schizo, either, so...

[Anonymous No.2801514]

>>2801474
It's certainly not going to fix them, but it seems to me that going on to message boards every day and trying to redpill anonymous strangers on perturbing archaic hertzian waveforms gives them something to live for.

[Anonymous No.2801515]

>>2801454
This website gives people a place to live their delusions and find others that latch onto them. It isn't specifically bad but it does give them less reason to seek the help they need. Seriously where else are you going to find someone who believes solar panels are fake but invisible? diesel generators are everywhere.

[Anonymous No.2801528]

>>2801515
They're not invisible, retard. They're hidden in barns that are conveniently right next to every 'solar' farm.

[Anonymous No.2801529]

>>2800616
>pump every single day

m8 wat

[Anonymous No.2801533]

>unironically advocating for EVs
Fags.

[Anonymous No.2801571]

>>2800994
Biologicals also require fuel. This fuel is usually measured in Calories. A Calorie is a perfectly fine unit for defining the amount in energy contained within petroleum based “fuel”. There is nothing wrong with the anons assertion that bicycles are fuel efficient.

[Anonymous No.2801634]

>>2801571
I think he fails to understand just how inefficient an internal combustion engine is.

[Anonymous No.2801682]

>>2801429
Your weak father has nothing to do with electrical engineering. Imagine believing something that doesn't even work unless the conditions at point a and b are already set up for it to function, then misconstruing this as a "speed".

[Anonymous No.2801702]

>>2801529
Probably one of those retards that goes to the pump and only puts in 5 dollars instead of just filling up once a week or so

[Anonymous No.2801704]

>>2801202
Central generation/transmission is very efficient though, even if we were 100% using fossil fuels, which we aren't. The long term future of electric generation is likely nuclear fission though. It's the only non fossil fuel that has a chance, unless someone figures out net positive fusion at scale, which I'm not holding my breath for.

[Anonymous No.2801750]

>pic related

[Anonymous No.2801782]

Nobody over the age of 14 should be riding a bike.

[Anonymous No.2801784]

>>2800616
produce everything you need and youll never have to leave home...or just get a bike

[Anonymous No.2801815]

>>2801782
>t. motornormative cagie

[Prepare No.2801912]

>>2801429
Narrow is the way. Sorry about your loss. Not everyone can make it when they break out of the NPC universe.

>>2801704
Pulling energy from the ether has already been perfected. Every inventor that wanted to go public, and yet was greedy, not giving his invention away, like fire or the wheel, was killed.

Maxwell's equations incorporate the aether, but Oliver Heaviside 'simplified' his equations after his death. It's these simplified, broken equations that are used to say that apparently no extra-dimensionality is possible.

The rule of conservation of energy does not change: the fundamental change is that we exist in a sea of energy, not an empty vacuum. Thus there is a conversion of energy of the aether, into more recognizable forms, like regular AC power.

[Anonymous No.2801992]

>>2801912
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7dtM3XFvy4

[Anonymous No.2802000]

1 honestly the best option for a modern man
is a prius, 50 miles per gallon
the modern ones even have electrical plugs
making them even more versitile and being able to charge like an electrical car with solar better

2, actually having an electric car if you have solar panels, cars like a chevy volt are perfect for just going 20 30 miles, you can charge at home with your home panels

only if you have panels to charge the car

3 option is ironically making your own biofiuel
this isnt hard if youra redneck type
get like an old diesel volvo
there are places that do conversions

4 get a job down the street

you can also do things like my honda civic has economy mode and if you excellerate oddly
it saves a ton of fuel going slow like old lady

go to some shithole like europe or asia use train

[Anonymous No.2802002]

getting biodiesel
you make it
the easiest is going to a restauraunt, they pay to dispose of oil
so you set a deal tank
then you filter it with micron filters and you can burn it in a diesel engine

you can also grow seeds of any kind and juice them for the oil

[Anonymous No.2802004]

but the future will be hydrogen
this is the future and will be what toyota is already doing
its the most efficent of all of them and it wont run out or shit like solar

[Anonymous No.2802567]

take the wood pill

[Anonymous No.2802707]

Sell your suv and get a more fuel efficient car.
I just ride a scooter and fill it up with 1 gallon idk they feel

[Prepare No.2802716]

>>2801992
Do you have something to contribute to this thread? Or, only evidence that you were yet another ill-conceived dysgenic mistake whose, despite inserting himself in an adult conversation, never had an opinion that mattered.

>>2802000
Second the prius.

>>2802707
I'm leaning this way, scooter, for short trips.

[Anonymous No.2802781]

>>2800616
>get a cheap van
>cut bottom
>get a few oil drums
>get pump
>go to a gas station at the middle of night
>drive over a tank access lid (most aren't locked)
Suck (preferably non ethanol)

Also if you want diesel just get red diesel and get some kitty littler to filter the red dye out

[Anonymous No.2802799]

>>2800616
>pump every single day
Are you driving across the entire continent daily with a shitty economy car?

[Anonymous No.2802811]

>>2800616
Indian reservation gas

[Anonymous No.2802843]

>>2802781
Diesel dye is a meme. I've never heard of anyone getting inspected for it and I'm sure there's trucks in my area burning it.

[Anonymous No.2803033]

>>2800994
biological organisms can be very efficient fuel processors

[Anonymous No.2803043]

>>2802716
You know there is no alternative you would actually use. This is a schizo fantasy thread. Anyone with an $80K ride doesn't notice fuel prices. I don't even give a shit and only own trucks. Fuel is cheap unless you're poor. Your thread is b8. Nobody fuels their SUV daily you numb digger.

This is /diy/ but you do not DO.

[Anonymous No.2803294]

>>2802004
>its the most efficent of all of them
Except in all the ways that matter.

[Anonymous No.2803342]

I can get you free energy by the end of the year if I can get a little help from a high-voltage electrical engineer willing to work for a very low price.

[Anonymous No.2803358]

>>2803342
This gives me an idea. So power companies have long known about the old scam of putting a big inductor underneath the power lines to steal power and they can fairly easily root it out. But what if you hid it inside a big truck with batteries inside? Then you could move it every day and they would never be able to find you.

[Anonymous No.2803364]

>>2803358
That's as illegal as it is impractical. And I'm sure they're not as clueless as you think they are.

[Anonymous No.2803693]

>>2803364
>That's as illegal
[citation needed]

it's not hooked to the power lines.

[Anonymous No.2803695]

>>2801429
good that he died

[Anonymous No.2803698]

>>2802781
>get a cheap van
I found the flaw in your plan.

[Anonymous No.2803700]

>>2800616
Don't forget to watch the gas pump terminal advertisement goypig.

[Anonymous No.2803731]

>>2803693
It's still stealing electricity from a power company.

[Anonymous No.2803750]

Yeah, SUVs are a scam. Pathetic cargo capacity for the size, shit safety despite being advertised as extra safe, shit at offroading despite being advertised with that too.
Just an unnecessarily large and heavy car for suburban wives who feel unsafe in anything not tank-sized.

[Anonymous No.2803805]

>>2801202
>all you're going to do is force move to nuclear faster
based, gonna buy an EV immediately

[Anonymous No.2803850]

>>2801288
>Explain how a windmill/wolar array perturbs an archaic hertzian waveform (the same one the guy you shit on came up with it) across thousands of miles . The answer is they don't. That's why there are diesel generators running in the background at all times regardless in order to perturb that archaic herzian waveform You don't just snyc up to a generator using shitwheels and Infared obsidian wafer rofl. How stupid are you?
Take DC and apply it via sinusoidal pulse width modulation across an inductor. It's a trivially simple process covered in every basic course in power electronics, numbnuts. You do not need a diesel generator in order to get a sine wave lol --- the proliferation of cheap sine wave inverters should have clued you in on this

[Anonymous No.2803851]

>>2801369
wow, an electromagnetic wave denialist

[Anonymous No.2803862]

You own a 80k luxury SUV. I doubt gas is the only thing you're getting scammed on.

[Anonymous No.2803904]

>>2800616
Stop voting Democrat. Oh, that doesn't matter because there are enough illegals to blot out the combined vote of the 15 lowest-populated states. Hm. Well, short of civil war I guess you're screwed.

[Anonymous No.2804144]

>>2802567
We had a few generals about this a while ago.

[Anonymous No.2804145]

>>2800616
80k SUVs get good gas mileage these days even driving my 25yo truck to jobs only needs filled once a week

[Anonymous No.2804587]

>>2800616
Pretty sure Gas has gone up $0.40 since the thread was created.
You can make your own hydrogen fuel at home. Converting the SUV is up to you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dH81VsKYgY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbpI4FHnYr8

[Anonymous No.2805512]

Couldn't you just do coal liquification but use charcoal?

[Anonymous No.2805518]

>>2805512
You will never do it. Petrol is not a major expense. Trying to find efficient ways to fail at life is much more difficult than not being a loser.

[Anonymous No.2806003]

>>2800616
you don't need petrol

[Anonymous No.2806011]

>>2802567
oh i've seen this guy. he has women strapped up in there to drive around like a lawnmower later, right?

[Anonymous No.2806046]

>>2800841
Kill yourself. I'll use a gasifier refit before I ever own an ev