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How many cords do you use in a burning season?

so far I have used about a cord. about 50/50 - Oak/Mesquite.

Picrel is not of my current burn stock. this is some Mimosa (silk) tree and a little bit of elm I came by at work.

getting prepped for next year.
Be The Ant.

>> No.2735076
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>>2735065
I don't have enough it seems, luckily it's a go and fuck around house.... I'll have to get some more tomorrow, or chop up the kiln dried shit I have a ton of.

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>>2735065
maybe a third of this shit. Firewood from cutting down 9 trees around the house this summer. Also ik the garage looks rough, former owners neglected it.

>> No.2735561

>Get a rocket heater
>Burn 1/10th the wood

>> No.2735563

>>2735561
>get 1/10th the heat

>> No.2735566

>>2735563
>get 1st the heat

>> No.2735675

>>2735065
3-4 cords and 250g of oil usually. Would be a lot less if I wasn't married.
Well less oil. Probably same amount of wood.

>> No.2735679

ive split about a cubic meter, felling and splitting a good 4 more cubic meters before winter ends
i burn about 3 a year
birch and aspen mostly

>> No.2735752

>>2735065
I just take pallets from work to burn.

>> No.2735767

Use a reburner or insert and you'll use 1/3 as much. Or it will last you 3x as long.

Open fireplaces (ordinary ones that are only open, and cannot have their doors closed and switched to reburn mode) are horribly inefficient. 60+% of your energy goes up in smoke. Reburner with a heat exchanger FTW.

Open fireplaces, or standard iron boxes without a reburner, is how you get creosote build-up.

>> No.2735769

It's not 1/10th, but it is much less. Rocket stoves work similar to what I posted above.

The idea is to not radiate the heat immediately, but instead get the burn chamber temperature up to the ignition temperature of the gasses. If you can 'see' smoke coming out of the chimney, that's wasted energy.

Once you've combusted those high-temperature gasses, you want to flow the output through a 6" duct that's buried in a bench. That can be filled with sand, for instance. The bench should wrap around the room, and acts as a warm seat, a radiator, and a heat store-and-release. It's very similar to a german tile oven in that sense. But a tile oven's burn chamber doesn't get hot enough to reburn.

What I mentioned above, will also prevent house fires, because there's no buildup in the chimney. Only a little ash.

>>2735561

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>>2735065
not enough, got the wood for free and cut probably 2/3, need to find more free shit next year from all the logging companies with full yards

>> No.2735840

>>2735769
Fyi
Sand has insulating properties and could cause your pipe overheat.

>> No.2735841

>>2735840
how is steel pipe going to over heat

>> No.2735843

>>2735065
Between the time I was 7 years old to 13 I had to cut, split and stack 8-12 cord every winter.
33 now, just cut and split a cord as a favor to a neighbour a couple weeks ago, was a two hour chore.
I got dinner for my trouble.

>> No.2735881

>>2735840
You're using the Mass in Rocket Mass Heater to capture the heat and store it in the bench. The burning does not happen in the bench.

I probably did a piss-poor job of explaining or maybe you'd like concise step by step videos:

https://youtu.be/vwEvj-JqUoQ

There's the first half of Ernie and Erica's RMH DVD. Here's the mag link for the book:

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:18f9a93046be518b9f279e53de9c165d9615cdd3&dn=The%20Rocket%20Mass%20Heater%20Builder%27s%20Guide%20-%20Complete%20Step-by-Step%20Construction%2c%20Maintenance%20and%20Troubleshooting

Libgen probably has a copy too.

>> No.2736081

>>2735065
About the same, one cord of almond and white oak.

>> No.2736310
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>>2735769
youre right, but this was not invented by hippies builing rocket stove,
this was the standart stove principle before steel got common and coal was used for heating.
a wood fire from a few logs gives off >20kW of heat, a stove just cant radiate all of that into the room so the excess is wasted throught the chimney, and it likley overheats the room and you need to open a window.

what you could do against this is tending the fire hourly just adding a wee bit of wood everytime, which is impractical.
or do it like we see often in US videos or here peopple cramming the stove full with not splitted logs and closing all air supply to get an "overnight" burn. this works but is inneficient since not all chemical energy from the wood is used and its poluting.

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>>2736310
most modern stoves are disigned like stoves 100 years ago, with a grate and primary air. newer ones have added sec and teritary air and some baffles to archive a afterburn.

but 100 years ago people would use antracite coal or coke, both are fuels you can throthle down the by starfing the air supply without getting big losses,
coke is almost pure carbon while wood also contains volatile compounds that burn to. but without enought air they leave the chimney unburnd and polute.

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>>2736312
here a pic of a wood fire in a mass stove, the fire is allowed to burn at its max speed and heat output thus burning clean and efficent, the stove buffers the energy and slowly radiates it over 16 hours,

>> No.2737159

>>2735065
I split 5-6 cords a year by hand (Fiskars X27 splitting axe ftw) and use 3-4. With several years of emerald ash borer killed trees needing to become firewood, I've stacked more than I need in a year so eventually I'll be able to ride a couple of years. This year has been super warm, and I've only used about a cord so far.

About 80% of the wood I've burned so far has been ash, 18% elm, and 2% oak. What I haven't burned yet is 99% ash, and what I have yet to fall is 90% ash with a little basswood. Some of the basswood will become carving blocks and some will become "cool weather wood", for when I want less heat and less burn time.

Since the ash is all dead standing most of it is almost burnable immediately. If protected from rain/snow, after 6 months of warm weather it's seasoned. Like with what happened to the elm, once the ash starts to rot it's gone. So, I'm trying to stack ALL of it soin for future firewood use. This year I may stack 12 full cords just so I don't lose the firewood.

It's pretty amazing what you can accomplish with one Echo CS-590 Timberwolf and one Fiskars X27.

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I burn a lot of wood but this year I've sold three cords of it because it hasn't been very cold, and I want to move all my firewood into one shed get rid of the temporary shed and build a permanent one there

>> No.2737455

>>2735065
3 cords. already through 2 and we haven't even gotten into the cold season in NY.
i've got another cord of ash that I cut down in my front yard that I need to split.
if i'm going to make it through the winter without oil i'm gonna need a few more cords.
biggest problem in my attempt to stop using oil is
1)pipes may freeze. it can get down to -20 in my part of NY
2)house is frigid when I get back from a 12 hour work day
3)time to heat up the house is exceptionally long due to the placement of my stove. the room with my stove has good ventilation into the rest of the house with fans but it's not quick enough.

has anyone had luck using extra fire bricks on their stove to retain as much heat as possible when the fire dies? i know it will slow the heat up process but my biggest concern is when I'm not home and keeping the house warm enough not to freeze pipes.

>> No.2737484

>>2737455
Probably not what you want to hear, but why don't you just set your furnace on basically it's minimum? Guessing that's around 50°, but if it'll go lower take it lower. When you're there burning wood it won't run, but when it does it'll be minimum usage, and you'll know that it works just in case, if you have to use it you'll have it.

>> No.2737491

>>2735065
>family moves out to the boonies when I'm a kid
>house has two wood stoves as only heat
>they order 5 to 6 cords of half split shit
>get to spend my weekends as a kid stacking and splitting wood
>also clear cutting acre of land with shit tools for more wood
>all while my friends watch tv and play vidya games
good times

>> No.2737495

>>2737484
that is what I did last year and was able to make it through the winter with <100 gallons of oil.
i'd still like to continue exploring techniques to completely remove the necessity for oil. partly because my furnace is old and when I do upgrade I want to go to gas. maybe i'll get around to it this year, i just hate HVAC faggots but completely dependant on them since you can't buy a furnace without a license.

>> No.2737497

>>2737455
Baseboard or forced air? If latter, put it in fan mode to circulate the stove heat. For pipes in exposed areas get a heat tape. Plug it in and below 50 it keeps the pipe warm enough not to freeze.

>> No.2737499

>>2737495
>loicence
Sure you can. Pioneer for heat pumps/mini splits or supplyhouse.com for gas and oil boilers/furnaces.

>> No.2737539

>>2737499
based and saved. spring project confirmed.

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>>2735065
I cut down the oak trees, made the containers, and cut and split all of this wood by myself. I am a beast and all of you are pussies.

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!

>> No.2738762

>>2738530
Looks like 3 or 4 cord. Lmao
I like your idea with the containers. Did you just staple the base and then wire the unsupported edges together? I might use that next year. Thanks anon

>> No.2738832

>>2737455
Is your house not insulated? Pipes shouldnt freeze in half a day

>> No.2738837

>>2738762
just use ibc totes remove the tank and use the basket

>> No.2738869

>>2737159
I'm in ireland and we've had a serious ash dieback over the last few years. Chatting to a forestry worker he warned me against burning any of it because some of the spores survive combustion and are pumped out the chimney to infect other trees in the area. Well probably lose most of the ash trees though until the few resistant ones get a chance to repopulate but that's going to take decades

>> No.2739302

>>2738762
Yeah I just used romex staples to attach the wire fencing to the pallet.

>> No.2739742

>>2736312
your post has a lot of typos

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2740626

How much do i split fire wood. Now how i go about it. I first get a 20 m log (aproxomatly) cut it into 2 m loggies (smaller logs) and cut it like a 4 slice pizza

>> No.2740651

>>2738869
Reburner/insert would take care of that, RMH and the like. Will get secondary combustion temperature up so high as to destroy them. Sucks but that's what happens when you have generations of morons planting monoculture.

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>>2735065
>How many cords do you use in a burning season?
Most years, I have 5 cords delivered split. A few years I had some large maple trees down and I split those by hand. 4 cords in total.

And OP, you shouldn't be using an axe for splitting. You need wedges and a sledge hammer. Or picrel

>> No.2740678

>>2737455
Go look at thermal batteries. Quick overview - huge container of sand that is heated up for free and the heat is used when needed. The free heat can be solar electricity, or even just solar heat over the summer.

>> No.2740680

>>2740626
In NA the standard is 16" logs, split to less then 6" on the outside. So bigger logs get split into 6 or more pieces. But the splitting depends on your stove - newer stoves tend to expect smaller pieces.

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>>2740675
hydraulics go brrrrr

>> No.2740686

>>2740681
I mean, yes. But also that's not splitting by hand which I assume OP is talking about.

>> No.2740918

>>2737159
>Fiskars X27 splitting axe ftw
my favorite by far - a wedge on a stick

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2741265

OP here.

scored about a cord for free today. there us at least another 3 cords I can get from the same guy. he owns a tree service. I have to load, cut and split it, but free wood is good wood.

the truck pulling trailer in picrel is bed loaded almost even with the top of the cab.

I will be upgrading my splitter game. first with a maul, but I hope to have a petrol/hydraulic splitter by next fall.

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>>2741265
homemade ones can be had cheap if you watch. i bought the one above for my pops for $400 a few years back. it didn't run. took the head off and beat the rusted valves down with a hammer until they moved freely on their own. put a couple $30 chink carbs on it until i found one that would run. i hated watching him beat himself up when he'd go wild crazy and put the better part of 10 cord splitting by hand. he's a scrounge, always finding wood and will even cut it on the road right of way if he sees a tree fall

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None. Nadda. Nothing.
I'm not a caveman. When I get cold I push a button on my wall.

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>>2741420
Sitting here sweating next to the stove when it's 18 degrees outside. Laughing at faggots like you on the crying on the news that their power is out and the power company said eat shit, it'll be 3 to 5 days before we get it fixed.

>> No.2742957

>>2735065
None, I have a gas fireplace and hydronic heating.

>> No.2742992

>>2742953
We're down to 6F (-14.5C) in western PA.
The dog is currently roasting himself in front of the woodburner.

>> No.2744452

>>2735065
Don't split, burn wood for looks in a big fireplace and keep the logs round because it burns slower and looks nicer.

Been wondering if I can convert the ash pit into an air intake for a jank DIY heater conversion, but I have my doubts.