Prepping

[Anonymous No.2554210]

About that. Do you do any form of prepping?

Schizo doomsday scenarios aside, it doesn't hurt to have backup plan should there be an emergency. What can the average homeowner do within reason in terms of preparedness like as far as things like food/energy/water/tool storage?

[Anonymous No.2554233]

>>2554210
I have a deep freezer full of food, and a pantry full of food.
Its about as much "prepping" as im willing to do.

I have a garden every year and im not going to throw my food away.
I like to pseudo meal prep every once in a while.
Its fun. Its just something my parents always did when I grew up.

I probably should get some water reserves in there.
I wouldnt mind installing a full house generator too.
But any real natural disaster or doomsday scenario, none of this shit is really going to matter.
I do it to save money on food

[Anonymous No.2554242]

Canned food for a year which I rotate and water for six months(If I only use it for drinking). It might be irrational but it brings me piece of mind.

Can someone recommend a cheap solar setup just for powering a phone and a laptop?

>>2554233
Can you still run the freezer if the power is out?

[Anonymous No.2554244]

>>2554242
>Can you still run the freezer if the power is out?
No, but if you dont open it a bunch, the mass of frozen food inside will keep it cool and safe for days.

[Anonymous No.2554269]

HAHAHA WOW THIS IS A GOOD THREAD AND I IDENTIFY WITH FROG LMAO

[Anonymous No.2554275]

You wanna buy water rations for lifeboats and dried food tablets they use on lifeboats.

Don't listen to these people who tell you to buy guns or things to defend yourself. It's best to just be harmless and trust that starving crazy people will leave you alone.

[Anonymous No.2554276]

>>2554269
Hey, I agree anon.
What do you do to prep?

[Anonymous No.2554319]

>>2554210
Have a decent workshop, plenty of tools and know how to use them. That way natural disasters are easy to respond to and you can quickly repair your property.

Be creative and question customs many of which are lazy defaults. How many people do you know who when they repair or renovate plumbing strategically add spigots and fittings for garden hose? I can bypass any section of my plumbing almost as quick as I can drag the hose and that's insanely handy. I buy replacement well pumps opportunistically in advance saving stoopid money then skid mount them with important fittings already mounted. I can connect those to either of my wells as desired. I keep a Bosworth Guzzler hand pump so I'll never have to manually prime again.

Prepping buys time thus choice. Stored water buys time to sort out water replenishment.

With water sorted tackle food. That's been done to death making it silly ITT because no one should need spoonfeeding for basic shit.

Transportation vehicles should be extremely common with a very large aftermarket and salvage yard presence. Idiots buy Larp Rovers without solving the parts and mechanic problems first. I buy redundant old pickup trucks (Ford and GM because brandfaggotry is silly) I can personally troubleshoot and repair axle-to-axle.

If drainage matters solve that shit. Ditches ain't hard to manually dig over time but flooding is bad. Ensure your vehicle parking spot is easy to egress and never ever buy land in a flood zone.

[Anonymous No.2554320]

shopping carts are very durable. I rolled fully stocked carts from the nearby grocery store into our apartmant, over the street and it fits inside the elevator.
>inb4 nigger return the cart
I do every time. But nothing's diy about it.

For water, I found out you can buy 5 liter destilled water for about 1€ a bottle. Emptied it and filled with tap water. Beats these camping containers price wise. Oh yea and the mad max armor that's defintevily diy

[Anonymous No.2554342]

Which food is worth stockpiling? Canned tuna and beans?

[Anonymous No.2554349]

>>2554233
I,m this guy's neighbor and friend. When SHTF I will kill you and take your shit. No prep needed here

[Anonymous No.2554353]

>>2554349
I mean, this is the obvious answer.
If shit were to hit the fan you arent sitting pretty at your house, everyone will be going on the move.
You have to just kill the outspoken "preppers" out there who bought a bunch of MREs and shit

[Anonymous No.2554368]

Is prepping even a thing outside of amurrica?

[Anonymous No.2554374]

>>2554242
You got a couple days to a week or more to start canning, dehydrating, eating ,etc. I keep an extra propane tank to emergency run a burner for this unlikely situation.

[Anonymous No.2554376]

>>2554368
There's a thread on out that has a polish guy prepping

[Anonymous No.2554377]

Should I buy a bunch of propane tanks? Even without an emergency situation isn't it a good idea with how much the prices keep increasing?

[Anonymous No.2554379]

>>2554210
i'll just raid and rape with ma niggas ishtf
shit people here been getting by on nothing forever man no need to worry might even get calmer if street lights get cut
don't worry

[Anonymous No.2554380]

>>2554377
Are you talking about the 1lb tanks?
If so just buy a normally good amount and a fitting for you to refill off a 20lb tank.

[Anonymous No.2554406]

>>2554210
2 weeks of food. Lots of beans rice and peanut butter. Short interruptions at 100x more likely than massive ones. Biggest concern is pharmaceuticals since my wife has a transplant.

We could use better water storage. I also have cove gear left over. Not sure what I will keep.

I’d like to be able to protect against a dirty bomb a few major cities away.

[Anonymous No.2554407]

>>2554242
>Can someone recommend a cheap solar setup just for powering a phone and a laptop?
Bumping

[Anonymous No.2554414]

>>2554406
>Short interruptions at 100x more likely than massive ones.
This is good advice. You should plan for the personal disasters more than the major ones. What if you lose your job and it takes a month to get a new one? Imagine not having to worry about buying food during that time.

[Anonymous No.2554420]

If covid didn't break the system I don't know what will. We will be fine

>inb4 nukes
Not happening and if it does it's game over prepped or not

[Anonymous No.2554425]

>>2554420
I'm sure there's thousands of Ukrainian families right now wishing they had prepped. Shit does happen

[Anonymous No.2554431]

>>2554425
>I'm sure there's thousands of Ukrainian families right now wishing they had prepped.
They evacuated and were taken in with open arms from neighboring countries.
What exactly would have prepping done for them?

Nobody stayed in the warzone areas except fighters

[Anonymous No.2554443]

>>2554431
Lmao do you really think the entire country is vacant? Even in Kiev there's been massive power outages and even outside of warzones you're often limited (couple hours a day) on electricity usage

[Anonymous No.2554452]

>>2554443
>Lmao do you really think the entire country is vacant?
Did I say that?
The places that didnt vacate are living life completely normally anon. Only a small portion of the country is at war.

Kiev is quite literally one of the warzone hotspots they are fighting over, so obviously its going to have power outages.

[Anonymous No.2554457]

>>2554452
And you actually believe Kiev has been evacuated? I work with Ukrainian (pre-war) emigrants whose families are there and life has been miserable

[Anonymous No.2554463]

>>2554457
>And you actually believe Kiev has been evacuated?
What are you trying to say?
That they DIDNT evacuate?
I watched JohnnyFD (the friend of bald and bankrupt) who owns a house in Kiev post daily videos as the war started.
There was a month of evacuations before they finally bombed the first building. Once that bomb hit, Johnny himself left.

So yes, I and millions of other people watched as it was documented people willingly evacuated the city.

If you came back months later knowing the war is still raging on, or you didnt leave in the first place, thats just stupidity on your part.

[Anonymous No.2554603]

>>2554320
>>2554342
how do you plan to the eat beans?

[Anonymous No.2554639]

>>2554349
>>2554353
You faggots don't have a clue what you're talking about.

[Anonymous No.2554643]

Have your neighbors over for a meal, be friendly.

[Anonymous No.2554654]

>>2554431
>They evacuated
Males aged 18-60 are banned from leaving the country. I have a Ukrainian refugee at work and her husband is stuck back in Ukraine. Their apartment block has no electricity or running water, he lives in the basement and he's lost his job. The only way he manages to buy food is with the money she sends him.

[Anonymous No.2554666]

>>2554603
with my mouth

[Anonymous No.2554739]

I panic bought a fuckton of ammo before the 2020 election thinking it would get banned or prices would skyrocket if Trump lost (they did, for a while). I'm pretty much set for life with 9mm and 7.62x39. I guess that was a prep but also I kept thinking of it as an investment, like I'm never going to shoot it all but I can sell it if prices skyrocket or supply whatever side I pick if there's a civil war, which seemed a real possibility at the time.

My basement has decently low humidity consistently around 50% and a cool temperature year round so it should last indefinitely.

[Anonymous No.2554850]

>>2554210
I believe that the most likely bad scenario I'll be involved in is just a long-term unemployment situation. So, all of my preps are essentially financial. If you couldn't work a job for a year or more, what would your plan be? How long would you last?

[Anonymous No.2554872]

>>2554275
Have you ever eaten a lifeboat ration? I would rather die than survive on them for a prolonged period

[Anonymous No.2554880]

>>2554850
Stockpiling food that will cost twice as much in a few years is still financial prep. Being able to generate power with solar for some basics so you can lessen or eliminate your energy bill is still financial prep

[Anonymous No.2554990]

>>2554242
>>2554407
Cheap is subjective, and not a good thing for a solar system to be, but I'll take a crack at it.

Phone + laptop will have is something like 45-80w draw during use.

100w poly solar panel (x2) $75-110 each
lifepo4 comparable solar charge controller $50
Chinese lifepo4 100Ah battery $300
<100w 12v inverter $60
wire, power disconnect, connectors, mounting hardware, misc $100

You might be able so save ~$150 by going with lead acid batteries, but the upgrade is a no brainer imo

[Anonymous No.2555038]

>>2554739
Touch grass

[Anonymous No.2555084]

>>2554872
If flavor matters to you, you're silly. Survival rations should discourage eating for pleasure. You don't NEED to enjoy eating out of necessity.

[Anonymous No.2555099]

>>2555084
>You don't NEED to enjoy eating out of necessity.
You probably do enjoy it anyway because positive experiences are intensified when you're struggling

[Anonymous No.2555114]

>>2554210
>have tons of food
>live in an ICE house (a.k.a bunker disguised as a house)
>have guns in a no guns country
>have a diesel car and the means to make biodiesel

The world could burn for all I care

[Anonymous No.2555123]

>>2555114
>live in an ICE house (a.k.a bunker disguised as a house)
How?

[Anonymous No.2555132]

>>2555123
It's a big reinforced concrete box dressed to be a house, my exterior walls are 18cm of pure concrete and my interior walls are 14cm

[Anonymous No.2555161]

>>2554603
From the can. Duh

[Anonymous No.2555164]

>>2554872
I have. I thinknits a great idea. They are shockingly perfect. Pretty good for the first bite. Alright for the second and third. No I don't really want a 4th.

They're perfect for what they're supposed to do

[Anonymous No.2555170]

>>2554990
Why would you go with a 100W 12V inverter - Why not just use a DC to DC converter to go from 12V to 5V @ .5 A for the cellphone charger?
Then use a 10A boost converter to raise the DV voltage to 19.5V @ 8A for the laptop (assuming that it will be somewhere around there).
That way you do not lose 20/30% for the inverter and another 10% for the chargers to convert the AC back into DC.

[Anonymous No.2555268]

>>2554463
>my favorite eceleb grifter said so!
fuck off reddit spacer.

[Anonymous No.2555302]

>>2554431
>They evacuated
>Nobody stayed in the warzone areas except fighters
>If you came back months later knowing the war is still raging on, or you didnt leave in the first place
So which is it?

Of course many people left but the truth of the matter is that Kiev has never been vacant, hindsight is 20/20.
The sentiment "I'm sure there's thousands of Ukrainian families right now wishing they had prepped." is very much true.

[Anonymous No.2555307]

>>2554275
You actually believe a gun isn’t a handy thing to have in a survival situation for a variety of reasons? If you’re saying this because you dont have access to them then yeah, you got to work with what you have. But in a survival situation, saying a gun isn’t a basic necessity is only slightly more insane than saying a knife isn’t.

[Anonymous No.2555352]

>>2554349
>>2554353
You'd think that preppers would be aware of that too. Many of them will have guns, knives, bows, etc, with trigger-happy fingers around anyone they don't know.

[Anonymous No.2555379]

>>2554210
>actually good stuff in the photo
huh, you might just make it
i stockpile boots that fit me and hand tools. not many people ever suggest to stockpile them. you can often find full toolboxes for sale cheaply online, often from shed clearances.
car boot sales are great for cheap tools.
>>2554872
yes, they're actually not bad, just like shit shortbread.
>>2554269
>mfw you come asking me for help in the apocalypse

[Anonymous No.2555380]

>>2554349
nta but
>BANG
no you won't
but you will kill this guy >>2554275

[Anonymous No.2555381]

>>2554368
yes but you don't know because they don't run thier mouths about it like stupid americans.
this is inredibly important
KEEP YOUR STOCKPILE SECRET.

[Anonymous No.2555383]

>>2554342
rice, oats, canned meat keeps for a long time, as do beans and fish.
i have eaten crab meat that was 5 years past expiration, it was fine.
>>2554666
>>2555161
based. the jew fears the cold bean eater.

[Anonymous No.2555394]

this guy digs out and restores abandoned bunkers afaik. very good idea. keep them secret too.

[Anonymous No.2555470]

>>2554880
Granted, but I personally prefer to just create income streams with my cash as my first go-to prep.

[Anonymous No.2555475]

>>2555470
>cash as my first go-to prep.

[Anonymous No.2555487]

>>2554319
>GM

Thats a nah from me bruh.

I agree though. I have an entire fleet of old ford pickups/trucks and international trucks. Simple, mechanical, reliable.

[Anonymous No.2555500]

>>2554242
>Can someone recommend a cheap solar setup just for powering a phone and a laptop?

there are these hand held generator/battery systems that can beattached to solarpanels. the most normie brand is called Jackery. They are designed for richfag camping but theres no reasonwhy youcouldnt use them in an emergency situation. costs 500-1000$+ depending on the load you want.

well that was the price a few years ago who knows maybe they are a million dollars now.

[Anonymous No.2555504]

>>2554420
>If covid didn't break the system I don't know what will

covid did break the system. fucking npc normie the house is on fire and youre like 'this is fine, surely eggs wont cost more than 10$ a dozen tomarrow'.

you mfs better start a gardenand stop your larping.

shit, even before covid there wereclear signs things are fucked. In commiefornia a few years ago, the main power company literally shut down the grid for the entirestate to 'prevent forest fires lmao', people went days-weeks-months without power simply because some jew didnt want to pay to do line maintence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_California_power_shutoffs

they literally called it a 'piss piss' and went on the tv and radio and told people how important this 'piss piss' (THEIR PRONUNCIATION) was and how it benefits everyone to get piss pissed on.

we live in a decaying world with fragile systems but everyone has been gas lit into believing everything is 100% rock hard and never going to break. every time the boomers outsource production and maintence to some third world third worlders another block of sability is removed from the system. Ukraine is never going to recover from their russian circle jerk. They will never, ever get their infustructure back. People are going to starve to death from the man made famine this war will create, and your media and political figures will tell you to lower your standards of living so that they can feed their political allies in lower-tier countries while you become chronically malnutritioned if not outright starve yourself. During the covid lockdowns, all these billionare fucks bought up the majority of farmland after the original owners declared bankruptcy when they couldnt get product to market. So when they decide sell THEIR product to someone else, you will be fucked.

[Anonymous No.2555726]

>>2554342
Freeze dried meats, eggs, dairy. Nutrient utility preserved, weight & volume reduced, extreme lifespan, replenishment with water is easy and flavour is conserved.

[Anonymous No.2555738]

/biz concludes that stacking silver and xmr is a sound commercial footing. /fit concludes that eggs, meat and fish are the core nutrional good. /k supports common calibers in home defence as birdshot in shotguns and a 7.62 for government collapse, .45 & 9mm caliber revolvers, pistols. What is the most fundamental /diy box for total weimar/nkvd shtf predicament?

[Anonymous No.2555743]

>>2555302
There is a copypasta around from an anon during the clinton/Bosnian war. He said the things to prep are quite different from basic needs in a military type disaster. Smokes, Bottled Water, Booze, Flashlights, Batteries, Bic Lighters, Ammo, Canned Food, Chewing Gum and a few other items.

[Anonymous No.2555749]

>>2555738
based, but I'd change it to gold + xmr instead.

[Anonymous No.2555789]

>>2555743
That has been exposed as fake. The user admitted it was all made up

[Anonymous No.2555987]

prep is a drug gays take to avoid catching aids

[Anonymous No.2555995]

>>2554425
Their own fault for rebelling and starting a civil war

[Anonymous No.2555996]

>>2555123
Buried shipping container

[Anonymous No.2556018]

>>2554368
I'm a Mick and I prep, nowhere near as extreme as many others but I've enough food to see me through 6 months.
It's not really about prepping for the end of the world but mundane shit like if I lose my job I won't have to choose between eating and paying my bills, I learnt that lesson the hard way back in the crash of '09.
Think of prepping as an insurance policy that you can eat, people don't bat an eye over paying for house/car/pet/gadget insurance so why should food insurance be any different

[Anonymous No.2556023]

>>2555164
They're literally designed for that purpose, they're not nutritionally complete and you'll get very sick eating them for a long period of time. There is a reason you only get 2 per person in a lifeboat.

[Anonymous No.2556026]

>what people think prepping should be
Dude I've got a 20 year supply of food in a secluded cabin

>what actual, useful, relevant prepping is
Having 6 months of salary saved

[Anonymous No.2556030]

>>2554320
Are you schizophrenic?

[Anonymous No.2556033]

>>2554880
In the long-term, investment returns will outpace any kind of food inflation

[Anonymous No.2556041]

>>2555738
box? are you looking for a tool box? that doesn't matter so much as the quality of the tools, and you can't beat japanese, see the japanese "engineer" brand tools. snap-on is about equal. they don't overlap in every area, and engineer focuses more on hand tools.
Old tools are great too, they don't make 'em like they used to but for SHTF? Depends on the scenario; surviving in the wilderness? escaping a city? just staying in your home but with no outside help anymore?
I'll tell you the tools I would take with me, from an "everything is gone and I have to move" perspective. I go wild camping a lot and urbexing overnight (aka being homeless in a city temporarily) there's one tool I always want with me;
an axe. it can be both a hammer and cutting tool, makes your firewood, makes your shelter, deters attackers. small 2lb/1kg hatchet is best.
Optional extras:
-those small pocket bolt cutters.
-nibblers (great for sheet metal, snips are good but i prefer nibblers. made a wood burning stove recently from random scrap metal me and my gang of raiders found, pic related, using only snips, a drill, some fireplace cement (can substitute clay/mud) and some wood screws, axe as a hammer was helpful too)
-folding saw (you can get the cheap ones from garden centres)
-pliers and/or adjustable water pump wrench.
-engineer brand side cutters (good for all kinds of things, including trimming nails and minor surgery)
-swiss army knife (explorer) that's the one with the magnifying glass and screwdriver. covers so many bases; can opener, tweezers, blade, even a secret wire stripper function.
Now if you want to get really fancy;
-one good No.2 Phillips screwdriver.
-one good large slotted driver.
-one slotted electricians screwdriver.
(i recommend wera brand screwdrivers)
-set of allen keys
-wood chisel
-brick hammer
-high quality military folding shovel
your pack now weighs about 4kg more. Unless relly necessary, you will probably end up reducing it to swiss army knife and axe.

[Anonymous No.2556052]

>>2556041
- 100 watt green laser pointer to shoot down "weather balloons" before they get directly overhead.

[Anonymous No.2556085]

Fuel oil (red diesel) can be stored for a very long time
and used to heat your home or run a generator

A fireplace is always good to have. Especially one you can use for cooking.

Never return home with an empty gas tank. Keep it at least half filled at all times.
Keep an emergency jerry can at home. Dont forget to use that fuel and replace it with new fuel. Fuel can spoil.

Buy drinking water. Keep it sealed and store it properly.
Buy canned food. Ready to eat meals and some ingredients.
Also store dry food like rice.

Get paper plates, cups etc. Cleaning the dishes when water is scarce is a real pain.
Use plastic cups for drinking water.

[Anonymous No.2556111]

>>2555475
What's wrong with creating income streams? I'd rather have that than just a food stockpile

[Anonymous No.2556117]

>>2556111
How dependent are those streams on the system and supply chains? If the last few years has shown anything it's that shit can get real bad real quick if you are relying on the system to just work.
No one is saying invest everything you have in beans, bullets and bandaids but it's smart to have something you can fall back on when things go pear shaped

[Anonymous No.2556119]

>>2555789
Huh. Dang they were really believable.

[Anonymous No.2556139]

>>2556117
It's reasonably diversified.

[Anonymous No.2556149]

>>2555987

[Anonymous No.2556155]

>>2556111
>What's wrong with creating income streams?
>moving the goal posts
>suggested fucking stupid idea that is worthless in an shtf scenario if you think about it for one second
>would rather have money than food
you are so fucking retarded that i can't tell if you're retarded or trolling ... but good luck buying your stockpile when the supermarket shelves are empty.
photo: only two years ago.

[Anonymous No.2556161]

>>2554739
epic win, that's an actually good investment, and I am pretty certain that you already touch grass. we will make it.

[Anonymous No.2556205]

Have fruit trees in the backyard

[Anonymous No.2556297]

>>2556117
Not when, if

[Anonymous No.2556306]

>>2556117
The last few years has also shown that even during a global supply chain breakdown you'll still be perfectly ok if you have money
>>2556155
>Aaah but my toilet paper!!!?

[Anonymous No.2556310]

Doesn't water go bad if you store it for long? Aren't you supposed to mix in bleach or something? How does it actually go?

[Anonymous No.2556311]

>>2556310
Water itself cannot go bad, but its container can

[Anonymous No.2556320]

>>2556311
how so?

[Anonymous No.2556323]

>>2556320
All water is "old" water, it's just a matter of keeping it sealed once it's drinkable so it doesn't get contaminated

[Anonymous No.2556368]

>>2556030
my personality consists of two characters. My normal self... and... Sometimes I like to put on the 'chitin'. My body then becomes a mere motor to set the outer hull into motion. It runs on beans...

[Anonymous No.2556422]

>>2556306
yeah because you can buy the empty pallets to eat.
(I need to just take a moment to say; holy fucking shit i cannot tell if i am being trolled. if this guy is legit, he is the most small brain poster i have ever come across in all my years)
I just want to make something really clear; MONEY WILL BE WORTHLESS IN AN SHTF SCENARIO. THE LAST FEW YEARS WERE NOTHING COMPARED TO A REAL DISASTER. YOU CANNOT BUY FOOD AFTER THE SHELVES ARE EMPTY. YOU CANNOT EAT MONEY, but you can burn it for warmth, which is what you will have to do, having not stocked up on gas, blankets and/or firewood.

[Anonymous No.2556423]

>>2556310
i mean yeah, sort of, bacteria and mold and shit can grow. i've had some bottles that i cleaned well, go nasty after a month, and others that i took very little care to keep clean, be fine after a year. ???????

[Anonymous No.2556452]

>>2556422
The kind of shtf scenario in which money is worthless is so unlikely as to not be worth considering except as a fun hobby. You could've been prepping since 1776 and it still would've been better to pick money all that time.

[Anonymous No.2556457]

German gov sold off so many of their old war bunkers for super cheap, some lying below 30m of granite, def. Regret not having bought one now :/

[Anonymous No.2556458]

Probably best to eff oneself off on 120mg of mdma + an SNRI in case of the apocalypse

[Anonymous No.2556728]

>>2556452
>oy vey! choose money, please choose money goyim!
yeah because there's never been famines or wars or entire countries desolated in that time.
IN THE LAST TWO YEARS SHELVES IN SUPERMARKETS WERE STRIPPED BARE AND PEOPLE COULD NOT EAT AND YOU ARE STILL TELLING ME MONEY WAS THE BEST THING TO HAVE THEN?
You're a total fucking moron who is going to die. Everyone who was friends with me ate well while the shelves were empty, other people WITH MONEY struggled, and that was fucking nothing compared to what may be to come. i shared my beans and rice with my friends and no one could believe i had it, suddenly it was worth more than gold, but I'd never trade my stockpile for gold or money.
also, may i remind you, that for most of that time, humanity didn't have nukes nor the destructive capabilities they have now. you might not have noticed but there's this little thing going on in Ukraine, probably nothing to worry about, right? not like we're literally on the brink of nuclear war.
attention!
>attention!
attention!
>attention!
Here's some insider info for you: the UK government bought up a whole bunch of steam powered machinery (think traction engines and trains) and hand tools like picks, shovels and sledge hammers. Along with a massive amount of steel stock and rail way tracks. The government was prepping MONTHS ago.
Why steam power you might ask? because the UK has untapped coal reserves.
The idea with prepping is that yes, it may be very unlikely, but you are prepared for not only large scale disasters and the collapse of society, but can also weather any small scale disaster like a plague or natural disaster.
Say, jew anon, your money relies on banks and society continuing, you wouldn't be planning to off yourself in a real collapse of society, right?

[Anonymous No.2556804]

>>2556452
>You could've been prepping since 1776 and it still would've been better to pick money all that time.
>The kind of shtf scenario in which money is worthless is so unlikely
>since 1776
>so unlikely
>low probability thing hasn't happened for 247 years
>1776 is the year the declaration of independence was signed
>the year that the american empire started
>roman empire peaked after around 300 years
Oh now it makes sense, you're american, your country is only 247 years old, so you haven't been around long enough to witness a collapse in the history of your people.
*laughs in 10,000 years of rise and fall*
I can go and touch the ruins of the roman empire, with the ruins of other cultures and societies that came before them and afterwards, everywhere nearby.
One day, you will learn what I know- but first hand.

[Anonymous No.2556828]

>>2554210
This is 2023. If you have a house, unlike what retards will tell you, you don't even need electricity or heating. Literally all you need is water, food and protection of whatever you fear (or hope) will destroy society, ie air filters or radiation/tornado shelters etc.

>muh cold
You don't even need a heating source, stack up a bunch of blankets. Inside a home with no windchill and a thick blanket you'll be fine even if it's -20c or something
>muh electricity
Oh no, you might be bored without your gaming pc when doomsday comes. Get yourself a flashlight or a camping lamp
>muh gas
You don't need it, your ancestors lived thousands of years without it
>muh gunz
If you live in the third world where everyone has guns you might need them, but in the case of real civil unrest you'll be fucked anyway. Just like now, real world gangs will rob and kill you while you try to escape in your fantasy land where owning a gun somehow makes you superhuman and invulnerable to harm. You're one guy and they'll be many, you'll lose without a state to protect you and that's the end of it.

[Anonymous No.2556841]

>>2556828
>you don't even need electricity or heating
>You don't even need a heating source
>you'll be fine even if it's -20c or something
what latitude do you live at?

[Anonymous No.2556847]

>>2556841
You won't be comfortable but you'll be super alive.

[Anonymous No.2556863]

>>2556847
equatorial fag confirmed. you have never been in even -2, let alone -20.
and you haven't factored in that every house is built different, different insulation, different ways of letting in heat from outside too. I've been inside old houses, that were not heated, which were colder indoors than out, because they didn't let IN the heat from the sun.
Yes a house makes a lot of difference, but you will die at -20 in a house with only a blanket.

[Anonymous No.2556866]

>>2556863
He did say multiple blankets. Shit some sleeping bags are designed to keep you warm and alive at -20. Your body puts out a lot of heat, and if you can keep that heat in you can survive some nasty cold temps.

[Anonymous No.2556870]

>>2556866
>moving the goal posts
but also don't trust the rating on your bag untill you have tested it yourself.

[Anonymous No.2556892]

>>2556452
I agree with this too, which was the point of the original comment. The most likely survival scenario most of us will witness is just long-term unemployment so it makes sense to financially prep with basic investments.

[Anonymous No.2556902]

>>2554210
Prepping is mostly a meme. All you really need is a decent selection of guns and ammo and maybe a months worth of food. If society collapses, the people with the most weapons will survive because they can take what they need from the unarmed.
If there's a major calamity like a nuke or asteroid impact then there's not much to prepare for. If you aren't instantly killed you'll get to enjoy radiation poisoning, fallout, tsunamis, zombies, etc.

If you want to prep then prep for a natural disaster like a hurricane or earthquake. I'd have two weeks of MREs, a couple shotguns to deter Jamal from looting, a portable generator to run your fridge, and 10-15 gals of gasoline. I wouldn't bother with water. You have forty gallons of it sitting in your water heater and boil up rainwater if needed. If things really go tits up then you'll probably be evacuated anyway.

[Anonymous No.2556916]

>>2556866
Did he, or did he not say a bunch of blankets in the original post you are referencing?

The only one moving goalposts here is you.

[Anonymous No.2556927]

>>2556916
>replies to the wrong post
fail
he said
>stack up a bunch of blankets
which i assumed ment STOCK up on blankets, like stack them, in your cupboard, it can be interpreted in two ways but yes, he does state multiple but ...
>a thick blanket
A think blanket (one)
also one thick blanket isn't even really going to be enough at -20C, with no other heating. you need extreme insulation at those temperatures.
>The only one moving goalposts here is you.
no u

[Anonymous No.2556945]

financial prepping is not prepping.

[Anonymous No.2556954]

>>2556945
Financial prepping is easy. Buy as much gold and silver as you can and stash it away. When the SHTF you'll be able to point and laugh at the cryptofags who got wiped out.

[Anonymous No.2556976]

>>2556902
You've clearly not been through any or many disasters.

Have a known good supply of clean water you control which means maintain your well if so equipped including backup pump and spare parts or have clean storage like food grade poly barrels you leave empty until warning of disaster (keep full if earthquake country). Rainwater is not a reliable resource but if in a rainy area and a homeowner you can and I do leave rain barrels beneath the edges of building roofs. Mine are for convenient washing after working outdoors and to wet the area where I weld and cut prior to hot work, but they do fine for flushing the shitter and general washing.

Weapons fantasy prep is mostly for retarded larpdreaming incompetents beyond the basic rifle/shotgun/pistol everyone should own anyway. Never plan for your dreams because dreams are stupid. Plan based on reality.

Be extremely handy and able to work on everything you own that matters. That includes at least one simple, common vehicle.

You don't need electricity or entertainment. Reserve food shouls be canned or otherwise stored not to need cold storage. Run genset long enough to use up what you have then shut it down to reserve it for important tasks. Solar battery chargers are enough to run toys, charge LED headlamps (holding a flashlight wastes a hand when wrenching or anything else) etc. LED headlamps remove any need to run lights in your residence. Have small inverters and know how to power and charge what matters. Portable cell towers are easily deployed after major disasters so you want at least one good backup phone. A CB radio or two is useful. Learn why.

[Anonymous No.2556980]

>>2555487
Agree on the ancient trucks but ancient GMs other than rust have no issues either. I've two dentside Fords, one with a Holmes 440 I extended the boom on since it needed replacing anyway, and a C-30 crewcab w. Century wrecker about to get an LS transplant (easier on petrol).

For EFI trucks only GM (chosen wisely) are practical to reprogram PCMs at no cost making them exceptionally easy to keep on the road. If a Ford or other PCM dies on a VATS truck you're screwed unless you had VATS deleted beforehand (so I did). That's not a home gamer deal unless the home game is side money doing PCMs. Other than transmissions (Fords fuck those up too) which are easily corrected there's not enough difference to matter. LS drivetrains are based and a joy to work on still being classic V8s undefiled by OHC.

Every serious truck user should have one truck with a Tommy Gate. Used is fine since they're simple. Total back saver.

[Anonymous No.2557013]

>>2556954
he is trolling us.
no one could possibly be that stupid. oh wait, it's probably narcissism. that explains it.

[Anonymous No.2557023]

>>2556945
r/gatekeeping would like a word with you

[Anonymous No.2557028]

>>2557023

[Anonymous No.2557123]

>>2556892
A voice of reason

[Anonymous No.2557187]

>>2556902
This. The closest we got to a real happening during my lifetime was COVID.

It was clear that what was needed to survive was being able to live rent/mortgage free away from people with a bit of relevant supplies, like food or disinfectants.

[Anonymous No.2557205]

>>2556976
If it's a natural disaster you really only need to hold out for a couple days until you get evacuated. Forget the fridge, insurance will buy a new one. If it's a doomsday thing then thank you for prepping. I will enjoy your supplies after my armed gang takes control and I become the warlord.

>>2557013
muh-muh-muh crypto lol you fucking toddler

>>2557187
Yeah, anything worse will be a free-for-all anyway.

[Anonymous No.2557267]

My form is simply buying one more can than I usually need, train with my weapon, do gym and running, and pickle shit in 100% vinegar and salt if needed. Also a 1hp generator and accessories for light and shit.

[Anonymous No.2557281]

The SNES is to 2006 as the PS3 is to 2022
How does that make you feel?

[Anonymous No.2557371]

>>2557205
Ah got it, you live in a city. That's the only kind of moron who thinks the government will just save them
I live in rural Canada. You fucking think a helicopter is gonna fly through a fucking blizzard to pick me up from my house in the forest? Oh but don't worry the temperature might drop to -40 right after. I'll just prep for a few days. I'm sure everything will be fine.
Trusting the government to save you is beyond retarded, especially when it only costs me a few thousand to ensure I'm safe and healthy for multiple weeks if not months
Kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.2557462]

>>2557371
Chill out eskimo joe

[Anonymous No.2557482]

>>2557462
Consider he's responding to the "hurr hurt I'll be for raider and live as a king" any vitriol he sends his was is justified.

[Anonymous No.2557605]

>>2557205
>If it's a natural disaster you really only need to hold out for a couple days
new orleans was under water for more than a month after hurricane katrina.

[Anonymous No.2557606]

>>2557205
>I will enjoy your supplies after my armed gang takes control and I become the warlord.
preppers;
stockpile. ammo. and guns.

[Anonymous No.2557607]

>>2557371
>Kill yourself.
don't worry, he will not make it.

[Anonymous No.2557617]

>>2556804
rome the entity lasted over 1000 years. rome the republic and rome the empire are recognized as two distinct periods of that time. america the entity barely has one quarter of that existing. if you think america the republic is the same as america the empire, you are obviously betting hard on your collapsetard mentality due to some form of resentment.

>u are gonna gollapse one day an im gonna be laffin, then!
enjoy the mud cookies in the meantime, nigger

>non american
lol. lmao.

[Anonymous No.2557632]

>>2557205
As a prepper myself, the whole armed gang scenario has of course occured to me.

This is why I am a member of an armed gang. We pretend to be the neighbourhood watch.

[Anonymous No.2557634]

>>2555504
This guy's on the right track.
There's not going to be some "SHTF" scenario where the country turns into a giant battle royale. It will be a slow decline, where little by little the standard of living will decrease, and economic security becomes harder to come by.
For some examples, look at what happened in Russia after the Soviet Union dissolved. That was as close as possbile to the "SHTF" the mad max preppers dream of, it was basically the end of the world for many people, and yet life still went on.

What you should be doing is adopting habits that lower your dependency on the immediate economic situation. Growing your own food means that you don't have to worry about going hungry. Learning to repair stuff means that you don't have to go without, and maybe you can repair other people's things in exchange for their talents, like sewing.
Basically the opposite strategy to cowering in your bunker with 2 years of canned beans and 12 guns, shooting anyone who comes near.

[Anonymous No.2557637]

>>2556804
You haven't been around to witness any kind of "collapse" either.
The fall of the roman empire didn't take months or years. It took centuries.

[Anonymous No.2557641]

>>2557205
>my armed gang takes control and I become the warlord.
Literal fantasy. There is absolutely no scenario where retards like yourself start trying to rob people and don't get immediately killed by everyone else.

[Anonymous No.2557644]

Church of Later Day Saints provident living site. 30 year life span food cheap.

[Anonymous No.2557645]

>>2557637
>You haven't been around to witness any kind of "collapse" either.
>>2556804
>you haven't been around long enough to witness a collapse in the history of your people.
>in the history of your people.
>One day, you will learn what I know- but first hand.
>you will learn what I know
>but first hand.

[Anonymous No.2557646]

>>2554210
ok this thread is a shitshow.
lets get some survival/prepping things you can do yourself or info that is useful in the collapse for doing things yourself that you currently pay others to do.

[Anonymous No.2557647]

>>2557646
caltrops

[Anonymous No.2557655]

[Anonymous No.2557656]

[Anonymous No.2557658]

>>2557646
>waterfilter
>made of plastic

LMAO anon, youre not filtering the most important thing: xenoestrogens. Enjoy your man tits.

[Anonymous No.2557675]

[Anonymous No.2558302]

Is there any medicine worth staching?

[Anonymous No.2558311]

>>2558302
Antibiotics.

[Anonymous No.2558334]

>>2558311
Like what? Don't you need a prescription? I've never taken antibiotics in my life

[Anonymous No.2558336]

>>2558334
>Don't you need a prescription?
Yes, but there are online clinics that will write one for you, just like you can get boner pills or a weed card. Another alternative is veterinary antibiotics. They come in regular human dosages. Aquarium antibiotics are pretty easy to get as well.

[Anonymous No.2558337]

>>2558336
They do go bad so keep that in mind.

[Anonymous No.2558349]

>>2554210
4 weeks of insulin in fridge
All menus from all the restaurants in a 2 mile radius
Adapter to run a mini-TV from my scooter battery
Frozen bottles of coke in freezer

[Anonymous No.2558379]

>>2558337
Yes, you can find lifespans for everything. It's not like they'll decompose into mustard gas, though. They just lose their potency. Like the rest of your preps, you should keep track and rotate them out.

[Anonymous No.2558419]

I need to restock my pantry and get one of those chest freezers to store a bunch of stuff long term, and figure out how I want to store a bunch of water.
I've got insurance against raiders and a means of hunting, and my house has a decent solar/battery setup that means if the grid goes down I can keep everything running.

Medicine is probably the big one, aside from Panadol, aspirin and a first aid kit I don't really have anything that might be used to tread a really bad wound or infection.

[Anonymous No.2558423]

Are jerrycans a good way to store water?

[Anonymous No.2558433]

>>2558423
probably not
>how much is your normal pickle rations?
glass jars will be one of the best options for drinking water
>don't try washing and reusing for water storage from things like tomato sauce
the glass jars can be put in stacked wood crates
they can be hidden anywhere in your house
>stainless steel water bottles would be better for if it gets frozen there is no risk of glass breaking
glass has the advantage of seeing what's in it

[Anonymous No.2558440]

>>2558433
Sp what exactly is wrong with jerrycans? Just schizo fear of plastic estrogen?

[Anonymous No.2558465]

>>2558423
Get BPA-free water storage containers, anon.

[Anonymous No.2558519]

>>2558423
>Jerry cans
Cringe
>Ameri cans
Based

[Anonymous No.2558532]

>>2555726
the only freeze dryer manufacturer marketing to consumers is HarvestRight and they seem to have such an utterly shit reputation that they hardly seem worth the several thousand dollar price tag plus shipping and import fees it would take to try them out. Has anyone (besides Senku) tried /diy/ing one? Would that even be possible? Or are we doomed to paying out the wazoo if we want pre-freeze-dried food off the internet?

[Anonymous No.2558547]

>>2554349
Dear Reddit,
TIFU when SHTF killing my neighbor. AITA?

[Anonymous No.2559311]

>>2554244
Better if it's a chest freezer and not an upright one

[Anonymous No.2559316]

>>2554654
>Males aged 18-60 are banned from leaving the country
WTF? Here in the US, the cut off to enlisting in the army is 35. what the fuck are they losing out on by not allowing 60 year olds leave? I doubt 50 year olds are more numerous than their 30 year olds. Are they trying to kill off their male population?

[Anonymous No.2559321]

>>2557023
The only people who complain about gatekeeping are people the gate was supposed to keep out

>>2557205
> I will enjoy your supplies after my armed gang takes control and I become the warlord.
The average prepper has more bullets then your entire gang would have on hand during a raid combined. And that isn't even taking into account that the prepper hasn't booby-trapped a their entire home.

[Anonymous No.2559344]

>>2558547
NTA, he emotionally abused you by dying from your actions instead of killing himself first to spare you the emotional trauma.

[Anonymous No.2559370]

This doesn't get brought out often but good relationship with your community plays a good fraction in every doomsday scenario.

Obviously don't trust people too much.

[Anonymous No.2559392]

>>2556945
I'm curious why you think so. To me, it's the most basic and important form of prepping

[Anonymous No.2559611]

>tfw no prepper bf

[Anonymous No.2560121]

>>2559392
All those stacks of dollars bills won't help you when their only value is what ever the (failed) government gave them. In a SHTF scenario the government is either non-existent or unreachable, effectively making their currency as useful as a Mexican Peso in The U.S.

[Anonymous No.2560163]

>>2554210
I think the chance of a nuclear exchange in Europe is higher than 50% so I bought a hobby farm in the country and have been learning from the local old folks who are hungry for young blood. Imo this type of prep with community bonds and knowledge is a much higher chance of survival over solo LARPers who dream of being the fag in that last of us show.

[Anonymous No.2560214]

>>2560121
Even in a crisis, I think people will still use at least paper money to do transactions. Take for example, during Katrina , money was still pretty useful, even though goods may have been inflated for a time.

But that's not even touching on my original point of having an investment income stream. If you have say dividends coming from a multinational corp and the dollar destabilizes somehow, the market would absolutely respond, perhaps making the price of the shares or the dividend income rise to compensate. It's not like say 100 shares of J&J would be worthless.

[Anonymous No.2560215]

Pretend to be poor and go to food pickups at least once a month, lots of free canned foods that are too salty to expire. Firearm rice and beans. Should do more but I’ll probably be dead from initial doomsday anyway

[Anonymous No.2560233]

>>2560214
In a SHTF scenario, all the money you have in the bank disappears, stock market goes completely dead, companies no longer functions if they even exist. In order for your investments to actually benefit you, you need to turn them into cash and goods BEFORE shit hits the fan.

No, you're not going to be able to sell any your stocks because the power and the internet no longer work

No, you're not going to be able to use your phone for internet because the cell infrastructure has been rendered non-functional because the towers need power to work.

No, the cash you have on hand is not going to work because everyone is looting Walmart

No, you aren't going to survive the week let alone long enough for the government to regain it's footing since you decided to put all your assets out of physical reach and your fridge only has a few days worth of food and the water no longer works.

No, you can't just drive away since every major road would be packed with cars, crashed or otherwise, and since you thought you could purchase everything when the time came you don't have any long term survival plans or supplies.

And lastly, Katrina was essentially a large, but localized, disaster since no governments or countries were rendered powerless or completely isolated. And people were able to be evacuated. and supplies were able to get in
Evacuations are impossible during an SHTF scenario because their is no where else safe to
run and no help coming.

[Anonymous No.2560261]

>>2560233
The entirety of the internet, all power, the entire stock market, the entire government, and even multinational companies just... vanishing somehow... gonna have to go ahead and mark that as a NOPE in my book. Prepping for that is kinda ridiculous

[Anonymous No.2560675]

>>2560261
Only one of those need to vanish for the rest of those to fall apart, in the modern era.
Shits starting to hit the fan in China because the government isn't able to pay their all of their police, civil servants and maintenance workers. The owners of some banks of regional areas have basically run off with the money and now the citizens are left penniless while the banks say there's no record of their deposits.

[Anonymous No.2560712]

>>2560233
Prepping is a bet
You can financially prepare for a boring event that happens to people every day, like getting hit by a car or losing your job. It's not interesting, but the odds and payoff are reasonable.

You can also bet on an unprecedented global collapse in which money becomes worthless. It's a very interesting thing to prep for and the payoff is huge (assuming you want to live in a world where a mob will shoot you for a can of beans), but it might not happen even this millenium.

[Anonymous No.2560717]

>>2558302
>>2558311
>>2558334
>>2558336
>>2558337
>>2558379
I'm glad someone mentioned medical supplies. They're cheap when there's no emergency so its a good first step to prepping. Do not buy "medical kits" in the store, they're overpriced garbage and most don't come with useful medical supplies save for a few gauze pads. Assemble your own TRAUMA kit according to your needs. You want things in it to solve problems that require IMMEDIATE medical attention. Some good things to have in it are:

1. Gauze. Lots of Gauze. Various sizes. Do not just get large pads thinking you can cut them to size, cutting gauze is bad for wound healing. ABD tauma pads too.
2. Iodine. It does not expire. Do not use alcohol. Do not use hydrogen peroxide
3. Saline and an insturment to flush wounds with.
4. Tweezers/instruments/flashlight/especially scissors for cutting open clothes to access wounds easier.
5. Steri-strips (butterfly bandages). It really pisses me off how many med kits do not come with these when they really should. These are the best thing to seal up open cut wounds that need to be stitched.
6. Self-adhesive bandage wraps, will come in handy if you can't use a hand.
7. Large triangular bandage for sling
8. Tourniquet. Pray you'll never use it, but having it can be life over death.
9. Eyewash.
10. Your needed emergency meds (Nitroglycerin/epishots)
11. Lighter for sterilizing tools/knives/needles and potential cauterizing.
12. Gloves/safeties/washing kit

Don't get stupid little band aids. Band aids are bullshit, knuckle bandages/square/culture friendly, what the fuck ever they're garbage. You can get stitching stuff, but only use them if you know what the fuck you're doing. It's painful unless you can manage to get anesthetic and needles and you will probably fuck it up worse. Steri-strips are more user friendly and should hold you off until you can get proper treatment.

[Anonymous No.2560728]

>>2554654
>Males aged 18-60 are banned from leaving the country
They were told a whole month before the restrictions came in. Anyone who stayed knew it was coming, and that they would be conscripted.

[Anonymous No.2561434]

all you need is a gun with one bullet. you know what for

[Anonymous No.2561445]

>>2554210
Just keep a little silver, dont sell it for food when the robots take out jobs hold it for as long as you can. the fourth industrial revolution needs silver more than any other mineral.

[Anonymous No.2561524]

>>2556320
Water is a solvent meaning it tends to dissolve things. So if you put water in a container the container starts to leech into the water. At first it smells like the container and then tastes like it. Eventually after some time too much plastic container is in the water and it makes it taste bad and can be possibly toxic. This takes a lot of time though. The common recommendation is one year before replacement, but you can go longer if you can take the bad taste.

[Anonymous No.2561527]

Saw this little personal bunker playing fallout 76. It had some dumb issues for game plot but it was pretty nice. The biggest problem with any survival location is redundant devices and supplies. Like is it smart to have one large pantry or two smaller ones? What about water? Can you source and filter rain or river water and for how long?

[Anonymous No.2561853]

>>2560728
Restrictions were put in place the day the war started

[Anonymous No.2561959]

>>2554349
You will become part of my prep, the absolute last part. Way I see it is if I stack dead bodies around my yard people will understand.

[Anonymous No.2562496]

Does prepping the bull for the wife count?

[Anonymous No.2563094]

Okay so let's say you're a west european and WW3 is gonna start in 3 weeks. You have a house but nothing else. What do your order and what do you go out and buy?

[Anonymous No.2563121]

>>2563094
You sell your house and move to New Zealand

[Anonymous No.2563148]

>>2554233
>But any real natural disaster or doomsday scenario, none of this shit is really going to matter.

I think one of the most important things to remember is that you cannot prepare for everything. Even if you are living "off grid" now, in the event of complete society collapse, you are still fucked. In my opinion the purpose of prepping should be to lesson effects and shock if things happen.

For example anon here has a freezer full of food and plants a garden. He is ahead of the curve in case there is a food supply disruption.

Even with a small generator to run the freezer, some lights, charge phones and laptop, you can still live more comfortably in the event of long term power outage compared to someone who has no power at all. Even a solar panel and cheap deep cycle batter is enough to keep your laptop and phone charged. Thats enough to watch some movies and stay in communication.

Imagine living in Ohio and making fun of the crazy guy who has a 500 gallons of bottled water in his basement. Now they don't have a water supply and he does. It pays to prep bros.

[Anonymous No.2563156]

Consider the lottery, any lottery
People have won the lottery and continue to do so every day, despite the momentously miniscule odds

Now consider prepping (actual Doomsday prepping, not just probable natural disasters), it's the lottery except it's been going for at least a few centuries or more now and nobody has ever won

[Anonymous No.2563159]

Best way to store large amounts of flower without it going bad?

[Anonymous No.2563160]

>>2563159
I usually plant mine in a garden and they stay good as long as I water them

[Anonymous No.2563176]

>>2563159
>>2563160
Flour. Forgive the ESLness

[Anonymous No.2563184]

>>2563160
my mother keeps a 25lb bag in the freezer. I jsut rotate the 25lb bag, so I always have 25-50lbs flour on hand.

[Anonymous No.2563185]

>>2563156
Plenty of people have work. Heck Europe's been all but destroyed twice in the last hundred years. That's not counting china, Vietnam, south America, the. Middle east, the American civil war, etc

[Anonymous No.2563186]

>>2563176
Keep it as wheat berries and get a small hand mill. Will last a long long time that way

[Anonymous No.2563188]

>>2563185
None of those were a doomsday scenario in which money was useless and survival was based on off-the-grid self-sufficiency
if anything, money was more useful in being able to escape the local wars as many did

[Anonymous No.2563268]

>>2554210
I buy a box of ammo every paycheck.
It was the main source of trade according to that guy that larped through the yugoslav incident.

[Anonymous No.2563280]

>>2563148
You are referring to a prepping cost benefit analysis. Which can be extremely hard to do. The simplest is likely extra food you are going to eat no matter what. The cost is very low. Biggest expense being containers and oxygen absorbers. Buying food in bulk may not be cheaper given the prices at Costco. Next would be extra tap water. Limited extra cost with most of that going to storage barrel costs. Water would have to be cycled somehow.

So after food and water it becomes much harder. Given the high costs. Most people would say shelter related like being able to heat the place in winter.

[Anonymous No.2563281]

>>2563280
>Biggest expense being containers and oxygen absorbers.
ammo can turn bambi into dinner.

[Anonymous No.2563287]

>>2563148
I would still make fun of that guy, not one person in Ohio is going to die of thirst

[Anonymous No.2563297]

>>2555170
Or better yet, a 24/48v system, where you can use more efficient buck converters. There's some usb-c pd car adapters that run on 24v and churn out 20v at 3 amps. Not too bad imho and enough to charge a laptop.
Also, chinese lifepo4 cells from alibaba are dirt cheap, like 100 bucks for a 280Ah cell + shipping.

[Anonymous No.2563298]

>>2554275
I strongly recommend to try those out - they are intended for people sitting tight and waiting for rescue NOT for someone working/hiking or doing anything energy intensive.
After trying them out I just got rid of them and stocked up on freeze dried meals in big cans - more costly but the difference in calories and taste is huge.

[Anonymous No.2563302]

>>2554639
tough boy thinks he can keep his canned goods out my mouth when the bombs fall.

[Anonymous No.2563305]

>>2563188
Living in a bombed out city or suddenly being in a village with no access to markets for 1 to 4 years sure seems like it fits the bill

[Anonymous No.2563306]

>>2554210
No I have firearms and loose morals.

[Anonymous No.2563353]

>>2563280
Costco is for chumps in this situation. You want to stack deep for cheap? You need to hit up those grocery outlet depots that specialize in taking in other chains' overstock or shit they need to unload for next to nothing. Beats the shit out of Costco, Sams Club, whoever.

[Anonymous No.2563475]

>>2563121
>Selling an house and emigrating outside the EU in 3 weeks

[Anonymous No.2563570]

>>2563475
Yes, and?

[Anonymous No.2563640]

>>2563287
but he wont have to wait in line for clean water, or worry about contaminated water when the government says it is totally ok to drink.

[Anonymous No.2563653]

generally, look at tech from 100 years ago
i'm in the bush, in a cabin, off grid. what will i do when my solar setup breaks? fuck power.
candles are a better bet. wood heat, wood cooking. learn to ride a horse.
i keep quite a bit of preserved food on hand, because i hate driving to town.
i think it'll be a slow decline with lots of hardship. people in town waiting in line for bread. i can weather it out in rural comfort.

[Anonymous No.2564310]

/pol had a rare quality thread today on Fabianism, Shaw, Roundtables, CFR, Rothchilds, etc. Might be relevant to prepper conscious people. >>>/pol/416441865

[Anonymous No.2564320]

>>2555352
Yeah and so do i, what's your point?

[Anonymous No.2564341]

>>2564310
>unironically visiting /pol/

[Anonymous No.2564598]

>>2556041
>no multimeter

You were so close. also I didn't see any ratchet or wrench. So many stuff and places will be unaccessible without them.

[Anonymous No.2564602]

>>2556847
At -40 even with blankets you're dead in very few hours without a fire. Don't larp, unless you're in the cold parts of the usa or in Canada you do not know cold. -10 is not cold, it's sweater weather.

People died a few years ago in Spain because it got a bit under zero, If you're not used to operate in cold weather, don't lead others into your ignorance. Cold is a very serious enemy. It can't be defeated, only held back with the proper fuel supply to burn (the best being wood you harvest and chop yourself).

Ever went in the wood at -40 to fetch wood ? Ask me how I know you never had to.

[Anonymous No.2565520]

I'd recommend a tinfoil hat but I'm sure yall already have one

[Anonymous No.2565607]

>>2554275
>crazy people won't harm me if I'm defenceless!
Guns are cheap, you can get a PSA shipped to your door for under $400, why wouldn't you stack an ar for every able body?

[Anonymous No.2565615]

>>2564602
It gets to -40 where I live. It just takes layers of insulation with an outer windbreaker and good boots to stay warm when doing stuff outside. Shelter just takes good insulation. Body heat can keep an igloo habitably warm. Snow is an excellent insulator, after all.

[Anonymous No.2565621]

>>2559316
>Are they trying to kill off their male population?
The regime seems quite interested in fighting to the last Ukrainian. Which does make sense considering that Russia wants regime change in Ukraine.

[Anonymous No.2567073]

2 more weeks

[Anonymous No.2567087]

Are any of you preppers energy independent? You can work your way into energy independence, you don't have to buy into dozens of solar panels all at once.

-Have a chest freezer (preferably DC powered) hooked up to a battery and solar panel of its that stays chilled 24/7 on its own.
-A single 100w solar panel on a bright day is enough to charge up a dozen phones, tablets, and laptops.

I think the biggest power usage in the typical household is heating/cooling and your water heater. So think of alternatives or be strategic. I recently watched a video where a guy started shutting off his water heater during the day because it's cheaper to just heat up water at night and the water in the tank could hold its heat with minimal loss during the daytime.

[Anonymous No.2568928]

>>2556026
what a completely imbecilic take
that 6 months salary won't be worth shit when EVERYTHING is going through a shortage. Unless you know exactly what to buy the moment shit hits the fan and everyone else is not aware of the gravity of the situation, money won't be worth shit the moment the supply chain collapses.

[Anonymous No.2568961]

>>2568928
>>2563156

[Anonymous No.2569152]

>>2568928
6 months of salary saved is useful preparation for things like needing a new car, an unexpected medical bill, a house repair, losing your job, etc. Apocalypses aren't the only eventuality to prepare for.

[Anonymous No.2569232]

>>2569152
Exactly. Also, you should prepare for the most likely thing first, im-ho. If you don't have at least 6-12 months of savings yet then you shouldn't be prepping for anything else.

[Anonymous No.2569239]

>>2563156
>it's the lottery except it's been going for at least a few centuries or more now and nobody has ever won
>what is insurance? why do we need it? I'll probably never win the car crash lottery so why bother?

[Anonymous No.2569240]

>>2554269
this but unironically

[Anonymous No.2569245]

>>2559392
not only is it completely fucking useless in a real disaster scenario, financial prepping is just called "saving" and "investing" and "being smart with your money" AKA existing in normal society ... not a SHTF doomsday scenario.
>yeah i do a little land fishing, i fish for deer and sometimes moose. my fishing rod is bolt action, i'm a fisherman.
that's what you do. that's what you are saying, but for prepping, not fishing.

[Anonymous No.2569247]

>>2554990
Is it possible to scale this to 1000 watts? I want to mine Bitcoin off of solar

[Anonymous No.2569251]

my nigger >>2568928 we are being baited, no one could be as stupid as this idiot >>2556026

[Anonymous No.2569254]

>>2569232
>If you don't have at least 6-12 months of savings yet then you shouldn't be prepping for anything else.
>t.a literal jew who wants us all to die.

[Anonymous No.2569385]

>>2554342
Canned tuna is ass, get sardines. Tastes much better.

[Anonymous No.2569398]

>>2560121
>In a SHTF scenario the government is either non-existent or unreachable
This type of prepping is based on a fantasy.
What scenario has ever happened in history where the government just up and disappeared, and everything collapsed on a national scale?

[Anonymous No.2569405]

>>2569251
I'm literally begging for someone to please give me a situation where "SHTF", and explain how it will result in total chaos + collapse across an entire country.
If such a scenario even exists, compare it to the likelihood of you losing your job during an economic downturn. Prepping for "SHTF" before you have emergency savings isn't much different than relying on the lottery as your retirement strategy.

[Anonymous No.2569408]

>>2563094
wood stove for obvious reasons
axe for wood
Matches and lighters
hand crank generator (charge small electronics)
HAM radio (be able to tune to news and weather, communicate if cell service is down)
Gun/protection of some kind
Preserved food that you'll actually eat so you can rotate it out
Soap. Just get a bunch of the cheapest bars. Hygiene is important.
That's about it.

[h3ra No.2569413]

i don't think do it urself is so bad, look, if someone tell u how to do your own shirts or stuff so bad, i'ts gonna be good right?

[Anonymous No.2569421]

>>2569408
no water?

[Anonymous No.2569512]

>>2554349
>>2554353
>"Oh I know I'll kill the guy and use his property as my own"
>turns out you're too dumb to grow crops
>turns out you don't know how to maintain a well
>turns out you've just killed a possible source of food and water
>turns out you're an edgelord retard

[Anonymous No.2569872]

>>2569405
>Prepping for "SHTF" before you have emergency savings isn't much different than relying on the lottery as your retirement strategy.
Well said, but remember that these things are not very exciting. Fact is, though, retirement is in crisis in most of the world and ignoring it is probably the worst thing you can do for yourself.

[Anonymous No.2570698]

>>2556368
>It runs on beans
>bean boy was a german all along
Hätte ich mir eigentlich denken können.

[Anonymous No.2571715]

>>2564310
I don't need to know WHY I should bunker up, faggot. I don't need that poison. I just need to know whats important for day to day living.
Ruminating on those responsible isn't conducive to a productive and peaceful existence.

[Anonymous No.2571791]

>>2554320
if you lowered the visor at the end instead of at the beginning it would legitimately look like a vidyagame cutscene

[Anonymous No.2571825]

>>2554210
Depends who you ask. Compared to a real prepper I don't, yet compared to the people I know I am that prepper guy. I have a small bag with basic stuff, enough to keep me alive for a week under most conditions. I've used it so save a few idiots lives before, people in my area have a mental break down if WiFi drops a one bar, God help them if the power went out for five minutes. But most of the time I get mocked as schizo because I have some canned food or a pocket knife. My thinking is that most emergency situations can be stabilized within a week, if not then it really hit the fan and I'll likely die anyway so I'm not investing living in some Mad Max world. Nobody would see the value of a desk job economist, despite the fact my skills would be hugely valuable at resource rationing and trade exchanges. Probably get miss labeled as a banker and killed by bandits.

I'll probably increase my prep level over the next year or two as a byproduct of my home remodel and money saving strategies. Things like bigger bulk food buys and setting up a tiny repair bench I do to save money, but those things will allow me more prep options. Already have cut my electric bill low enough I might be about switch to a solar kit, but HOA would never let me. Also I live within 3 miles of a power plant, water treatment center, major internet node. Half a mile from a nation emergency response route (both road and rail and) and 15 miles from a large military base and 3 airports. Basically red carpet zone of anything, even got a vaccine biotech lab 7 miles out. So it's either the best place to start over, or the first place to get wiped off the map by a nuke or overwhelming refugee wave.

[Anonymous No.2572564]

>>2560261
Solar flares exist anon

[Anonymous No.2572566]

>>2554275
Anon people get killed for just looking at someone the wrong way during peacetime. Hell, some homeless dude just got his head blown out just for vibing on a sidewalk by some psycho in St Louis. Do you seriously think that being "harmless" is going to help you when there's no rule of law?

[Anonymous No.2573412]

>>2564602
I live in -40. I've cut wood in the -30s.
A heat source is nice, but like moose in the woods, you can survive with nothing but fur.
The foresters out here will live in the bushes in canvas tents. They snowmobile into very remote areas and you can't pack too much. Good clothing and good sleeping bags. Like mountain climbers.
It's not for the unprepared, but it can be done

[Anonymous No.2574773]

>>2572566
>someone actually cleaning the streets
suddenly hes a "psycho"

[Anonymous No.2575724]

>>2563297
>cells from alibaba

[Anonymous No.2575731]

>>2554320
>tap water
Bad idea, Kamerad. Too much groundwater poisoning and fucking hormones from piss (anti baby pill) and hospital waste.
Even worse across the big pond:
https://www.epa.gov/superfund/search-superfund-sites-where-you-livethm8r

[Anonymous No.2575732]

>>2575731
fucking captcha at it again
https://www.epa.gov/superfund/search-superfund-sites-where-you-live

[Anonymous No.2576650]

>>2554368
There’s a YouTube whore called SurvivalLilly that makes prepping and survival videos and she Austrian and has over 1M subs I believe

[Anonymous No.2576682]

>>2565607
You can not get a rifle shipped to your door anon...

[Anonymous No.2577976]

>>2557205
>be raider
>get shot
Doesn't sound like a good plan, desu.

[Anonymous No.2578554]

>>2554210
If you're self sufficient enough to not starve to death in the first month, the government will literally put you on a watch list, label you s domestic terrorist, and gangstalk you.

[Anonymous No.2578845]

>>2554349
This is the same type of faggot who will call me insane for having assault rifles, night vision, and body armor

[Anonymous No.2578903]

>>2554269
>HAHAHA WOW THIS IS A GOOD THREAD AND I IDENTIFY WITH FROG LMAO
Yes

[Anonymous No.2579022]

>>2555726
What is the model number of this beautiful machine

[Anonymous No.2580410]

Start by focusing on short term issues. Power out for an evening is way more common than out for a few days. A small butane burner + some butane canisters takes up almost no space in your kitchen and can be grabbed in a moment.

Then a a day or two is more common than a week or two out. Power a phone with a <$100 battery bank you keep charged. Buy some more butane canisters, I tend to keep ~16 ready to go plus a backup burner. I like the burner so much I rotate them but the canisters will last a long, long time even if you don't and they're less likely to leak than propane.

Hit a goal of being self reliant for two weeks. Have the means of powering your fridge off a 1000w "power station" with solar backup or a generator. Have some water storage, even if it's just bottles in a closet. Have backups for your backups.

DESU I don't believe it's worth trying to prepare for more than a 2 week shtf scenario. At some point, evacuate. Have family or friends or a former roomate you can run to.

In the event of a nuclear armageddon the living will envy the dead so just take a bullet.

[Anonymous No.2580569]

>>2554210
I keep a few days worth of canned food in the basement along with a week's worth of hard tack I made a few years ago. I plan on getting some water jugs and an emergency heater too.
Any recommendations on emergency lighting like candles?

[Anonymous No.2580665]

>>2580569
Flashlights that run on AAs are my choice but I have a ton of eneloops already. The ones I have double as lanterns.

I don't want to deal with charging something I almost never use so the rechargeable ones always seemed like a joke to me.

[Anonymous No.2582713]

>>2554242
>>2555500
okmotech power stations offer more bang for you buck. They also sell solar panels too

[Anonymous No.2582749]

>>2555307
>Trust that starving crazy people will leave you alone
You're a retard.

[Anonymous No.2582781]

>>2554349
>BANG
>"We give thanks tonight for another offering sent to the meat freezer."

[Anonymous No.2582784]

>>2578845
You are fat so none of that will matter

[Anonymous No.2583146]

>>2554990
also check if your laptop HAS a 12volt charger available if it uses 60watt or less, removes the inverter middleman, reduces losses of power, and lots of laptops, some with decent graphics cards, convert 120v AC to 12-18v DC
a 18vDC to 12vDC converter will drain the battery MUCH slower than an inverter will, also having spare USB dongles for 12volt cig lighter recepticles is MUCH cheaper than getting a new one when you burn it out on your inverter

[Anonymous No.2583152]

>>2556423
most supermarkets, including ORGANIC ones, will render those potatoes incapable of growing
-you'll NEED seed potatoes, best get heirloom ones so your guaranteed to have ones you can harvest for the next seed/cutting growths

Heirloom seeds, otherwise you will most likely get seeds designed to prevent a next generation being born from the plants you grow/eat

>>2556828
is an idiot, MOST homes are DESIGNED to leak all their heat/COLD and such out. Gotta keep the homeowners paying for electricity to keep them from freezing and/or Boiling alive in the summer heat.
Roofs need to be vented to prevent ICE buildup, but no one does so anymore. Gotta have more rooms in your house. No one can have their own private forests in towns, don't wanna have them grow their own tree's, burn them during the winter, and be self sufficient.
Solar panels must be hooked into the grid or else. MOST places will allow you to have solar panels NOT connected to the grid(no real payout to do so nowadays). Just make sure when using them the power NEVER GOES TO THE POWERLINES. Also the only reason those solar panels die is because they're made of plastic, the more expensive BUT longer lived ones can last over hundred years if the backing and top are made of glass(more expensive because can't THROW them into delivery truck, won't rot in suns UV).
Muh gas, get so called bioreactors, aka water, SHIT, and leftovers you'd throw out in a bladder. It breaks down, turns to methane, filter with carbon(removes smell), pipe to cook/heat(a little bit) your water.
>gunz
better be able to make your own gunpowder and ammo, otherwise your neighbors, strangers, and who'ever will KNOW how much you got left til they can just walk in and barbeque/kick your ass.
>>2557482
thats kind of how everyone LIVES up there and in the boonies, you are CUT OFF from the rest of civilization for MONTHS til the WARM SEASON, then you go BACK to civilization to buy needed supplies, get your investment money/pensions/etc,

[Anonymous No.2583158]

>>2561524
CISTERNS, usually made of clay, CAN hold water for decades or longer BUT. You'll have to treat and filter said water (legionnaires disease for examples of water shit you'll be dealing with)
>>2580410
solar water heaters(glass tubes with metal reflectors) so you can HEAT AND BOIL your water, NO FUEL(works in winter too, just don't forget to have water in them EVER
solar cooker(same setup WITH a pullout tray to hold food to cook, have solid state thermometer so you don't undercook your chicken, rabbit, cow, etc)

[Anonymous No.2583248]

>>2554872
A lifeboat ration is good for a car or 72hr bag. Something you can just change out once a year.

[Anonymous No.2583253]

>>2573412
Sure you can survive working in cold weather, but not relaxing and sleeping. 60f is cold indoors. It is around that now in my apartment. I'm under an electric blanket

[Anonymous No.2583255]

>>2583253
Oh this reminded me of this van life dude on YouTube. He didn't have the power to run any major heat during the night. But he did have the power for a 100 watt electric heater. He found a DC version I think or maybe he was using an inverter not sure. Either way it may be a good idea for a home emergency. If you can run an electric blanket you can easily survive sleeping in a very cold house.

[Anonymous No.2583461]

>>2583158
solar water heaters are a neat gimmick but you don't want to set that shit up

so much survival stuff is a fucking larp

[Anonymous No.2583484]

>>2583461
not those LARGE, FIXED IN PLACE ONES
-the small single tube ones, with funky shaded glass and metal reflectors that fold around them
-they work even in the winter(fill a hot water bladder to keep warm during the night)
-negative is that they CAN take over an hour to cook things and half an hour to boil water/snow
-can't just set it and forget it, have to move them every half an hour or so, unless its a really sunny day
those black tubes on roofs are a bad idea in any area that gets snow/ice, oh and half the Presidents HATE them because they associate Hippies with them and they must support their OIL COMPANIES

[Anonymous No.2583548]

>>2583253
I heat my house entirely with the wood stove. When it's -20C outside or colder we keep it running all day and night.
But now it's spring and hitting 5C during the day, and -15C at night. Too hot to run the wood stove all day long now. When I woke up this morning, it was 10C in the house. A bit chilly, but completely comfortable with a sweater on. Made a fire which will heat the house to 20C, but I'll let it die out before lunch time and it won't get re-lit until tomorrow morning.
Still three feet of snow outside. Comfy bush living in the North.

[Anonymous No.2584714]

>>2554342
I reccomend canned food that you already like. Everyone runs to rice and dry beans for preps, but using myself for an example, I’ve never cooked dry beans before. I know how to cook rice, but they still require water. With canned goods, they keep good for like 1.8 years already, but if you keep them in good condition and not in warm environments, they should keep for much longer with only a bit of a muted taste as an effect. Another example of myself: I have canned raviolis. It’ll be nice to know you’ll be storing food you already know and like rather than stocking a bunch of food you’ve never tried before, you know you’ll have no problem eating it.

[Anonymous No.2584721]

>>2584714
Edit: I know dry foods like rice and beans are super important too, and if you know how to prepare them, by all means stockpile those. But canned goods can serve as the foods you eat before you have to break open the beenstash, and are portable in their own serving sizes, plus don’t have to be cooked to be eaten. If it’s to be believed that the beginning of the collapse would be complete chaos and hysteria, having readily-edible, portable food would be preferable to the long-term stash of beans or rice squirreled away somewhere safe that you have to aquire water to prepare

[Anonymous No.2584741]

>>2554349
Not only a nigger's mentality but unfeasible in the real world. Preppers will have guns and friends with guns. This could only work for either exceptionally skilled individuals or massive gangs in cities. You are at an instant disadvantage with a prepper who has security and knows his land.

[Anonymous No.2584757]

>>2557205
The guy who posts on /k/ is not going to be the leader or warlord of any gang ever

[Anonymous No.2584767]

>>2578554
hmmm i will try out this iced tea recipe

[Anonymous No.2584893]

>>2563302
Niggers like you are the first to be gutted kek

[Anonymous No.2584970]

>>2559611
Two men aren't going to repopulate the world, anon.

[Anonymous No.2584974]

>>2563156
Dysgenic selection against intelligence makes famine in developed western countries an extremely likely senario in the next 100 years.

[Anonymous No.2585584]

>>2554210
>What can the average homeowner do within reason in terms of preparedness like as far as things like food/energy/water/tool storage?

>>2554406
>2 weeks of food. Lots of beans rice and peanut butter. Short interruptions at 100x more likely than massive ones.


Have enough (water, food, heat, cooking fuel, shelter, clothing, meds, entertainment) for at least 2 weeks of your households living. Ideally 4+ weeks.

Water is bulky so that is annoying for most folks, but you probably have 80 gallons in your water heater.

But rice is cheap and stores well, add some tinned meats and other veggies, dry beans, and get set up with a camp stove and this is really easy to fucking do. Get a perpetual stew going on low over wood and I have food for weeks.

Keep gas in your car in case you need to bug out.
Have a place to bug out to (you have trusted, reliable, and friendly extended family 200 miles away? great!).

>>2554880
>Stockpiling food that will cost twice as much in a few years is still financial prep.
Plant some berry bushes and fruit/nut trees.
Preserve it - learn to can, or even make hard cider.
Or take seasonal excess of fresh food and feed it to some livestock/poultry, that you then eat later. Goes double if those animals can eat your food waste, grass clippings , or other things you would otherwise have to get rid of.

>>2555114
>>live in an ICE house (a.k.a bunker disguised as a house
It's ICF - Insulated Concrete Forms, not ICE.

>>2558302
>Is there any medicine worth staching?
First aid supplies - especially disinfectants and antibiotics. Stuff to stop you from shitting yourself to death, and basic meds.

>>2578554
>If you're self sufficient enough to not starve to death in the first month, the government will literally put you on a watch list, label you s domestic terrorist, and gangstalk you.
bro they literally told us to do this in our patriotic paramilitary indoctrination (boy scouts ftw)

[Anonymous No.2586778]

Natural water is easy to come by, so I've been wondering how good idea it would be to just get some kind of water purifiers rather than storing clean water in bottles. What do you think, and what would you recommend?

[Anonymous No.2586884]

>>2555738
>/k supports common calibers in home defence as birdshot in shotguns
Kys noguns retard.

[Anonymous No.2587966]

>>2557634
This is what I've always prepped for; not a "day civilization collapses", but a slow and gradual downhill. I have a freezer full of meats I'm eating for 20% cheaper than current shop prices, and a year's worth of rice, lentils and mung beans in case of actually catastrophic shortages. I also got a solar cell and a battery in case of rolling blackouts, but luckily they weren't needed yet.

And I was laughing my sparkling clean ass off when people started panic buying toilet paper. I still have half a pallet left from when I bought it years before the pandemic.

[Anonymous No.2588587]

>>2586778
From doing a bit of research (i.e. watching YouTube videos) I’ve gathered that Zero Water and Water Drop brand filters are the most effective and I’ve stocked up a handful of Water Drop “life straws” and a zero water 1.5 gal filter container with probably about 2 years worth of filters, and also been buying those potable aqua tabs. I don’t have a big budget for prepping but imo water is easily the most important prep

[Anonymous No.2588829]

>>2555504
kek'd at the piss piss bit. if only it were possible to have competent public ownership of utilities

[Anonymous No.2589125]

>>2554377
Just buy the largest you can manage and use an adapter hose. Now go study tanks and fittings because there is much good stuff to learn.

[Anonymous No.2589126]

>>2563302
Friends with guns are what forms local militias. Loners die. I'm not one. That's stupid. Larp dreams are stupid. Dreams and fantasies are stupid.

Be serious and life works better.

[Anonymous No.2589127]

>>2563653
That and you don't need electricity, that's for entertainment. You don't really need candles either. Sleep when it's dark.

[Anonymous No.2589869]

>>2554210
I love my 3 chickens. Sometimes I get home from work/school and realize I'm out of food but then I go outside and there are 3 eggs right there (plus usually a surplus on hand since I don't eat them every day).

[Anonymous No.2589909]

>>2589127
I dunno about you. But freezers and refrigerator and a water pump make life extremely better.

[Anonymous No.2589926]

>>2554210
i have guns, ammo, silver, canned food, and camping gear. all stuff i use pretty regularly anyways, i wouldn't call it prepping

[Anonymous No.2590786]

>>2569398
They were not entirely dependent on wifi before. Now they are useless without their gadget. Case in point, they are useless in any and all aspect already.

[Anonymous No.2590794]

Ive been a low key wannabe prepper since about 2009
I stepped up my game somewhere around 2015 started getting more into storing food and being self sustainable but in my shitty city apartment
At the beginning of the pandemic i lost my job so i decided to go all in and bought a full blown prepper house on a nice little property innawoods
I just moved into it full time and im feeling pretty good ngl
Lots of work to do though.. always more prepping to do

[Anonymous No.2592663]

>>2589909
In SHTF none of that matters. In short term inconvenience it's handy. There is a difference.
Ability to function fine without permits intermittent use of resources too, but this thread is not about real prolonged SHTF where conservation matters more than comfort.

[Anonymous No.2593453]

>>2554739
ammo goes bad after around 10 years depending on storage conditions. I think.
Cool and dry.
Better to invest in reloading a stockpile of a few thousand (5000?) than creating an ammo dump.
Also have spare guns of whatever you plan rocking, to hand out to really good buddies and replace shit with.

[Anonymous No.2593456]

>>2555099
delicious=nutritious, excluding processed foods. Its why we evolved taste at all.

[Anonymous No.2593465]

>>2556085
fire place should be a rocket mass stove

[Anonymous No.2593480]

>>2593453
Wtf are you talking about. People shoot ammo from the boer war.

[Anonymous No.2593501]

>>2593456
I found out this too when testing my prep. It helps to have a little bit of dark chocolate at the end of meals as a small morale booster.
Dark chocolate stores well too.

[Anonymous No.2593737]

>>2583484
can you point to one?
when i search online I get only those you install on roofs.

[Anonymous No.2593755]

>>2593501
>as a small morale booster.

Are you so mentally weak you need little gestures? Fix the root cause. Relinquish faggotry. Sensitivity is weakness. Are you the child of a single mother? (not joking, it's common)

[Anonymous No.2593764]

>>2554242
Goalzero has some options that might fit your needs.

[Anonymous No.2593776]

>>2554349
Kek, everyone says this, but how well do you really think you're going to keep up with the rape and pillage mindeset? People will congregate, you WILL be identified l, and you'll be killed by the group. Stealing is for niggers, and you will tongue my anus, doomsday or not.

[Anonymous No.2593999]

>>2563159
Ziplock bags should be fine but I'd smoke it and replace it with new stuff yearly.

[Anonymous No.2594190]

Do preppers hoard prep H?

[Anonymous No.2594202]

>>2554210

bought a 25 acre property a couple years ago and have:
>huge garden
>fruit trees
>1 acre pond
>chicken coop
>tractor, truck & tools
>plenty of kit
>emergency food rations
>water filters
>liquor still

only thing i feel like i'm missing is solar, but could do without. have enough wood/trees to keep the stove going for a decade and i could hunt deer from my back deck. do your worst, globohomo.

[Anonymous No.2594227]

>>2593755
>nooooo you must not enjoy things! Once the happening starts you have to suffer and eat canned peas forever! Don't ever stock up on small things like chocolate or coffee that make live enjoyable!!

[Anonymous No.2594419]

>>2594227
That's not what I said. Indifference is strength, not suffering. Eating canned foods is just eating, Food comes in, poop comes out.

You have too many emotions and they're too important to you. That's not about peas, it's about not being a needy little girl. When luxuries are effortless, enjoy, but that should never be a NEED vs a completely discretionarly WANT. Being delicate is incredibly degenerate. Why do you choose to be so delicate that little things have any importance?

[Anonymous No.2594598]

>>2555504
>live in rural America
>meat has actually gotten cheaper
>eggs are higher but who gives a shit everyone has chickens anyways
Sounds like coasties causing coastie problems

[Anonymous No.2594652]

>>2557658
>xenoextrogens
big-titty lumberjacks will inherit the confused earth

[Anonymous No.2594658]

>>2557675
>baking soda + toothpaste = better toothpaste
kek

[Anonymous No.2594668]

>>2594598
Victory gardens were once common in urban and suburban areas. Of course I'm not silly enough to live in one so I escaped and my alarm clock is a rooster.

[Anonymous No.2595876]

>>2586778
This is what I have sitting in my garage

https://lifestraw.com/products/lifestraw-community?variant=31349519089775

[Anonymous No.2595899]

>>2593480
this what im talking about you anecdote orbiting pigeon.

[Anonymous No.2595901]

>>2594419
average sisyphus fan vs average choccy milk enjoyer

[Anonymous No.2596356]

On topic of prepping, do you think they price of toilet paper is going to keep going up or will it drop at some point? Current prices are about double what they were even during the height of pandemic, so is it a good idea to restock now or wait a year or two for a better time?

[Anonymous No.2596462]

>>2596356
What? They fell back down here.

[Anonymous No.2596776]

Most disasters are more mundane than they are cataclysmic, they are often more local than global and our society is far more fragile than it is resilient.

Long before food is actually scarce it will become devoid of nutrition, and long before that it will become unafordable. Covid should have reminded everyone of that.

I believe in the tarp test.
You just put a tarp on the ground, and see how long you could survive based on what's on the tarp. This is really to emphasize how many people's plans are COPE, if it's not on the tarp its COPE. The tarp is also a ballpark for what you could fit in a car or porter several miles. In a disaster you may only be displaced ten kilometres from your house but if you can't get your supplies that far you don't have supplies.

You can survive several days with only a 3/4 ration of water. Do you actually have that much water in somthing you can carry? Can't put tap water on the tarp. If you had to flee with only a single object, a jerry can full of water could save the lives of several people.
Do you have shelter? I keep my outdoors clothes in a bag rather than on coathooks. If I run ass naked out of the door I've got a bag of warm clothes and a jerry can of water.
Many people would have neither, those people could die within a few days, due to the number of such totally unprepared people outnumbering emergency resources.
During wild fires I saw hundreds of people in their pyganas turn up at evacuation centers in pygamas with only family photos, family pets and other souvenirs from their old lives.
Within two hours the emergency centre was overun and those peoples survival depended entirely on support from people outside the disaster zone.

[Anonymous No.2596781]

So what's on your tarp?
Jerry can full of water, bag of clothes, maybe a tent, maybe some dried foods.
You can survive three days on only water, but you could survive a month on water and mars bars. Any food counts.
So I'm carrying the jerry can, the outdoors clothes, a basket of dried food which Is just my usual kitchen shit, I wouldn't even sort it out.
Dried rice noodles? Raw pasta? Akilo of penuts? Yea that's food.

How much fuel is in your car? Do you have a spare jerry can of fuel?
I'm out the door in five minutes, I'm driving intestate with enough food and fuel to get there without stopping.
Disasters spread as fast as the refugees spread; but rarely faster. Hopefully while my local stores are being looted I'm in the next state where the disaster doesn't seem real yet and I can max out my credit card in the wallmart and keep driving.

Bunkering down is a gamble that's not worth taking, because the better prepared will leave and the totally unprepared will stay.
When you get to a trailhead or what have you its likely everyone else you meet will be well prepared.
You don't want to be the only house with a stockpile in a mile full of starving people. More people have guns than sacks of rice and when those people have no food they're going hunting, and anyone else without food will join them. They meet in the car park of the looted supermarket , try to drive out, and when people who can't get out return to the supermarket carpark that's when panic will set in.

They've driven to town three times and down the highway once before they hit the traffic jam at the first highway petrol station.
In terms of distance your one jerry can of water, basket of random food and jerry can of fuel has seen you drive happily with the kids all the way intestate to the next supermarket and gas station and then you're just driving for another hundred KM overnight.

When you hit the refugee centre they've actually got supplies because you're the first one there

[Anonymous No.2596950]

>>2596776
>>2596781
good plan, but there is no guarantee that you will be the first to know of the disaster, other states might be aware of it sooner, or in the case of war, every state will hear the news at the same time so the panic will be everywhere

[Anonymous No.2596951]

on which board are the most /prep/ threads? i've seen a bunch on /pol/ but lately I cant find any prep threads there

[Anonymous No.2597772]

>>2578554
as someone who knows highschool chemistry

DO NOT MAKE THAT. fuck you, give me the molar masses, the stoichiometry (properly balanced) and i'll consider it.

not this retarded "grr hurr durr 200ml hydrogen peroxide of random concentration" and "3g of citric acid of unknown concentration"
a proper chemistry recipe gives you the actual moles per solution and the steps in further detail, refer to https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3662403 which explains how to actually synthesize meth properly.