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2047170 No.2047170 [Reply] [Original]

Bog land is dirt cheap, simple as. Is there a way to drain a peat bog either or wholly or just in parts in order to build a house on it?
Would it even be safe to do?
I imagine it'd take more than a shop vac and a weekend off to terraform land to an appropriate level

>> No.2047177

>>2047170
About 40Ha of bog in a relatively cold climate

>> No.2047231

Bump cuz i'd like to know this too

>> No.2047241

>>2047170
Doesn't peat go like, ridiculously deep? I may be wrong but wouldn't the constant moisture and unsteady land fuck with any kind of foundation you wish to put down?

>> No.2047250

>>2047241
I've heard about foundations getting fucked from being put on peat bogs, we were hoping to avoid this even in part by making the house in similar manner to a pole barn, and placing the legs it stands on on seperate concrete footings
Give it some room to move around

>> No.2047257

>>2047170
Just put up a tent, it’d be like sleeping on a water bed

>> No.2047266

>>2047257
I don't want to live long term in a tent

>> No.2047284

>>2047170
>Bog land is dirt cheap
Can’t build on it because frogs and salamanders.

>> No.2047286

>>2047170

You will need to dig out some ponds for the water to drain into from the surrounding land. You could then dig a trench/stream to allow for the water to flow out. Eventually the land will get dry but the soil might be shit to build on. If it were cost effective, people would already be doing it.

>> No.2047294

>>2047170
>Bog land is dirt cheap, simple as
And why do you think that is?

>> No.2047295

Bogs are protected wetlands. You’re not allowed to build on them or drain them. Good luck.

>> No.2047723

>>2047286
Thanks
>>2047294
Obviously because building on them is a fucking pain
>>2047295
I'm not in the U.S. so I'll have to see if my local bog laws are the same

>> No.2047731

>>2047723
The ground is soft, warm, and slippery. You can auger-out a small hole and literally fuck the earth.

>> No.2047734

>they said I was daft to build a castle in a swamp. But I built it all the same, just to show em

You know the rest

>> No.2047750

>>2047734
Two ways that i see are, A. Fill the bog (presuming its an enclosed bog that has boundaries) fill it with anything from sand to gravel to like ceramic bits or broken brick, like just keep dumping shit in there till u fill it, and spread all the crappy bog mud in a further area, eventually u got no bog.

Also u can cast huge steel poles in concrete and sink those and use them as pillars to build house on, works in minecraft

>> No.2047755
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2047755

>>2047295
pretty soon everything will be "protected" and "for nature"
you'd be only allowed to exist within the prison system or as a tax cow
good luck

>> No.2047763

houseboat

>> No.2047780

>>2047170
build a fucking crannog m8

>> No.2047786

>>2047723
>I'm not in the U.S. so I'll have to see if my local bog laws are the same
Unless you're in a third world country your laws are probably even more restrictive.

>> No.2047806

>>2047731
/diy/ dream literally

>> No.2047821

>>2047723
>my local bog laws
Probably very restrictive no matter where you are. Can easily be bribed away in most places but you're still exposed to extortion.

>> No.2047823

>>2047170
Are you NOT describing a significant portion of Ireland?

>> No.2047825

>>2047731
>small
hey, i ain't no chub chump

>> No.2047827

>>2047250
If you paid some company to drive helical pilings, how long would they last in a bog environment?

>> No.2047845

>>2047734
Vast.... tracts of land?

>> No.2047859

>>2047763
This would be a pretty good idea if it was just for living, and I wasn't trying to grow plants and animals
>>2047780
Looks neat, will research more thanks
>>2047806
Who told you?
>>2047827
That depends on how deep the bog is, but if it can reach to the limestone base underneath probably longer than the house would be up. Will look into as well.

Gotta say bros, this isn't looking to good. I still have hope though

>> No.2047865

>>2047241
In parts of Northern Europe they get around this by ramming logs or steel into the ground as a bed of piles. The surface area of the piles is what stabilizes the building’s foundation.

>> No.2048082

>>2047865
This guy gets it. Only way to build well is to find some sort of solid foundation. The bog surface is likely to deep and to wet for construction.

>> No.2048086

>>2047170
Start with a trailer house. Garden as much as possible plants can suck a lot of moisture out of the ground.

>> No.2048269

you cannot de-water a 'bog, when you remove water it creates an area of low pressure causing adjacent areas which are retaining water, the water will migrate into the area you are trying to drain, you will not succeed, ever. the only possible foundation in this type of material would be driven piles into a lower strata with a greater bearing density then the shallower 'bog. placement of a foundation 'system' capable of supporting a dwelling in the condition you describe would be cost prohibitive to the value of the finished dwelling.

>> No.2048271
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2048271

Use reinforced concret as pilars from house to mountain. This will only work for the house. If you want to have a driveway and shit you should be looking at making a perimeter around the area you want to build. Dig drainage ditches and redirect water away from the bog. Might be much work

>> No.2048313

>>2047170
Simple as what?

>> No.2048327

>>2048271
At that point you're probably exceeding the cost of non bog land.
Homes are expensive OP. No way around it.

>> No.2048339

>>2047170
>build a house
Get a caravan and live in that. A fertile bog should easily accept and digest your waste.