gas >smelly >emissions >noisy >expensive to operate >much more maintenance >unreliable >complex battery >odorless >clean >quiet >almost free to operate >almost no maintenance >very little to go wrong How long before small 2 cycle engines are abolished?

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Anonymous Thu Dec 12 00:25:47 2019 No.1732981 [Reply] [Original]

gas
>smelly
>emissions
>noisy
>expensive to operate
>much more maintenance
>unreliable
>complex

battery
>odorless
>clean
>quiet
>almost free to operate
>almost no maintenance
>very little to go wrong

How long before small 2 cycle engines are abolished?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 00:39:38 2019 No.1732990 File: 116 KB, 990x564, cf25_17048727.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1732981 >hubris >[ˈhjuːbrJs] >NOUN >excessive pride or self-confidence

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 00:43:14 2019 No.1732993 You forgot gas has zero downtime. Battery is for stupid people who have no technical inclination

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 01:07:44 2019 No.1733005 >smelly >Noisy >Complex Your onions is showing >Quiet Wrong, the motor on those can be louder with less efficiency

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 01:24:30 2019 No.1733015 >>1732981 You wont be able to find those batteries in 20 years. Get one with a cord.

Anonymous Thu Dec 12 03:08:39 2019 No.1733041

I have the shitty 10 inch. Its pretty meh but I may try the 12 which is supposed to be more of a real chainsaw and not a limber. I just need it for smaller trees on my property. So much lighter and easier to work with.

>>1733015
>>1733015
Ryobi has been using the same battery for almost a decade, having said that, you can replace the cells with almost any battery as long as you can find a way to charge that new chemistry and can fit it in the pack and hook it up. Depends on the battery, sometimes the BMS is in the way. I know a ton of dudes that went with eneloops and they completely remove them from the pack one by one and charge them. Slightly cumbersome (they replaced the guts of the pack with a AA battery holder and connected that to the output tabs) but eneloops have incredible cycle life and replacements are cheaper. Instead of having to replace a dead pack because of a bad cell or BMS, they just buy a new 1.25-2.00 battery. Any of them have yet to do so though.

Anonymous Thu Dec 12 06:12:05 2019 No.1733081

>>1732981
The battery saws aren't quite there yet. The ones I have seen are only 50 cc equivalent and weigh more than a 60 cc class saw. I think they would be great for occasional use but I heat my home with wood and I don't see a battery powered saw lasting all day with heavy use in a remote spot or handle anything bigger than 18 inch diameter. All that being said I would still grab one if they were cheap enough to use for light yard work.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 09:40:57 2019 No.1733146 I have a 14 inch corded chainsaw. It's still loud enough to need hearing protection.

Anonymous Thu Dec 12 09:47:49 2019 No.1733154

>>1732993
Or professionals working for rich people. Both because they want value signalling and because you can sell them a service with less noise/smell.

If the customer will pay for it, then you just buy more batteries, no downtime either. Also much better for your health. Electric is the future, gas for poorfags and the shittiest jobs.

Anonymous Thu Dec 12 10:09:56 2019 No.1733170
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Bought this lil Ryobi 10in saw on nigger Friday. This tree had fallen during a storm. Shits been pretty good figuring it takes the 18v battery. Only thing that sucks about it is having to pump the chain oil manually with a lil bubble on top of the motor. Shit for $49 American this shit has been good as fuck.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 17:47:19 2019 No.1733353 >>1733170 You could cut that shit with scissors

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 18:00:48 2019 No.1733363 Battery power is almost standard with arborists for anytime you need to climb the tree, still use gas on the ground.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 18:07:30 2019 No.1733367 File: 31 KB, 400x502, hot.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1733353 Scissors? I thought that was only for the flat/thin lumber we use to write with.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 18:07:58 2019 No.1733368 >>1733363 Never seen an arborist use an electric. For the same grunt they tend to be heavier than the gas powered ones.

Anonymous Thu Dec 12 19:02:20 2019 No.1733395

>>1733368
Can not recall the last time I saw anyone up a tree with gas. The weight difference is not enough to really matter, the simple faultless operation of electric makes up for it easy. A saw failure when you are 50 feet up sucks, even if there is still a spare to send up, you may have to climb half way down just to get a clear drop for the rope through the branches. That climb is more work than a few extra ounces in the saw.

Anonymous Thu Dec 12 19:08:06 2019 No.1733399

>>1733395
More to being an arborist than just climbing trees and limbing. Having to keep a large stockpile of batteries is shitty when you could just use a common fuel with your bigger saw.
Weight absolutely matters, especially since it's not just ounces. An electric with the same power as a 201 weighs the same as a 261 and has less cutting time.

Anonymous Thu Dec 12 19:16:35 2019 No.1733402

>>1733399
>More to being an arborist than just climbing trees and limbing.
As I said, they are pretty much standard when UP IN THE TREE.

You realize how little cutting time you generally need when up the tree? Most of the time it is very little, and guess what, we already have a stockpile of batteries for other tools, more to being an arborist than chain saws.

Moron.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 19:19:53 2019 No.1733407 >>1733402 Lets see your tools then. Show us you electric saw and typical work site.

Anonymous Thu Dec 12 19:26:23 2019 No.1733410

>>1732981
Corded makes sense. Helped my dad with removing some trees with a little corded saw and it did the job well enough. I wouldn't bother with cordless as I'm not interested in stopping every hour or so to change out batteries or sit waiting for them to charge.

If you need one out in the bush you'd be stupid to go with anything but gas powered. You can carry in enough gas to last you the day.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 19:36:31 2019 No.1733413 >>1733402 >I'm a professional Climbers and time stamp faggot or gtfo

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 20:00:02 2019 No.1733420 >>1732993 Practically speaking, downtime is only a thing if you only have one battery.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 20:00:49 2019 No.1733421 File: 70 KB, 500x375, every fucking time.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1733410 it's a shame that modern corded saws all have this fucking plastic reduction gear.

Anonymous Thu Dec 12 20:10:20 2019 No.1733422

>>1733407
>>1733413
If you actually knew what you were talking about you could prove me wrong with a simple question or two, but you are larping because you know almost no one cares enough about some random anons to bother and this way your larp can be sustained for a bit longer. Good luck, you need it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 20:13:12 2019 No.1733423 >>1733422 I never claimed to be an arborist to start. You did. Now show tools or shut up.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 20:21:44 2019 No.1733426 >>1733422 >no climbers >not a real arborist You could have said you'd post em tomorrow anon. I stead you're btfo

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 20:28:34 2019 No.1733429 >>1733402 Where do you live? I've never seen a professional arborist using an electric saw. If I saw them whip one out I'd actually consider a different company.

Anonymous Thu Dec 12 20:39:30 2019 No.1733434

>>1733423
That was actually a slip, i meant to avoid that since it just turns into this bullshit.

>>1733426
I am unlikely to go into work until the next storm and that is where i keep my gear, it is winter here friend, foot of snow on the ground. No one pays for tree removal at this time of year unless they have too, we charge out the ass once the snow hits.

>>1733429
Northern MN. Why would that cause you to consider a new job? They work great for some thing, bucking and felling is still gas. Being on the care side i mostly use a folding hand saw, pole saw and pruners, only get out the chainsaws when it is a badly neglected tree that needs a good amout of work or the boss calls me in to do removals, which is rare, generally means a storm came through and they are short on climbers.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 20:44:20 2019 No.1733436 >>1733434 I'm not an arborist. But If I pay somebody to come take down a tree for me I'd consider using a different company if they show up with some little tikes electric bullshit. I can't see that working on the thicc poplar limbs here.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 21:03:33 2019 No.1733441 >>1733402 I'm with anon if I hired a professional to trim trees and they showed up with a dinky Fisher price electric saw I'd laugh and tell them to leave

Anonymous Thu Dec 12 21:26:34 2019 No.1733458

>>1733436
>>1733441
Generally we show up with at least a dozen saws and you wont know what we are using until we are in the tree. Not to mention that before we even show up with a saw the contract has been signed and you will be paying just to send us away.

But electrics are not used for the large limbs, they are used for clearing out the smaller shit so you can get a safe approach with a larger saw and to remove anything that may damage other trees, structures on the ground or the tree itself if it is not a full removal. Most of the work is this prep work which the electrics excel at.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 21:50:41 2019 No.1733465 >>1733458 Why lie to strangers on the internet? What do you have to gain?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 21:58:10 2019 No.1733467 >>1733465 Why take part in anonymous image boards? What do you have to gain? If you think this is all lies, show your superior knowledge and point out my bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 12 23:15:49 2019 No.1733489 File: 86 KB, 680x486, abf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Gas chain saws? We only ever use cordless. Cordless? I only use a pruning saw. Cutting trees? I'm more of a yard maintenance guy. I'm more of a neet.

Anonymous Fri Dec 13 00:09:45 2019 No.1733510
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>>1733458
So this is a somewhat typical worksite for me. I didn't take the picture but I did work in this area 5 years ago when the tree was smaller. The arborists are expected to do anything from topping and falling to cosmetic pruning, as long as it meets safety requirements.
Never seen an electric chainsaw in use.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 13 00:53:49 2019 No.1733528 >>1733458 I'd still have said arborist get down from the tree and off of my property with their Lego bionicle saws idc if they're already up there. I'd leave a bad review on the webs too.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 13 01:04:33 2019 No.1733532 >>1733421 They balance the lifetime of the batteries with everything else, so it probably only has to last 2 years (approx one use per year, in spring time). Plus, metal would make it way too heavy for the target audience to lift.

Anonymous Fri Dec 13 01:21:08 2019 No.1733538

>>1733458
>electrics are not used for the large limbs, they are used for clearing

First we use 12v nicads for the preliminary brush, then we put those away, and then we break out the 20v black and deckers for the intermediate brush.
When we're done with that, we go get our 40v husqs for the mid brush. Then we put those away, and fire up the 58v Echos to take care of the deep brush. After that's done, we grab our 80v kobalts and take care of the post-secondary deepest brush before we actually reach the tree that we're paid to take down.

Sometimes this takes 3 days because the apprentice forgot to charge one of the chainsaw lineups, so we actually have to all pack up and go home to charge them, and come back the next day.

We used to just to everything with a gas chainsaw, but those are too dangerous. Next year we're going full eco and ditching chainsaws altogether. We're going to put a fence around the area and airdrop in trained beavers. It only takes a month, but it sure is safe.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 13 02:36:50 2019 No.1733571 >>1732993 Battery is for men you troll cockpolisher

Anonymous Fri Dec 13 05:31:41 2019 No.1733603

>>1733489
Oh you got me, the /pol/ meme really did me in. Yup, just larping at a job almost anyone can get, I just wanted the glory and admiration of the arborist.

>>1733510
That is bucket work, electrics have no advantages there. Also, if you knew anything about the field you would realize I work residential, the clues are all there.

>>1733528
If you would actually pay the %20 fee for canceling the contract with less than 48 hours notice over that, you are a moron. Bigger and more powerful is not better when you are climbing, most of the time the climber is just clearing a path for the bucket to get in, electrics excel at that. When the climber has to take off big limbs as well, they bring up two saws, hang the big saw in the tree while you clear branches to get as safe approach as possible on the big limbs, switch after the prep work is done.

>>1733538
If we have to clear brush, we use a brush cutter. Using a chainsaw to clear brush is just asinine.

This place is getting pathetic, if you think someone is larping or trolling, make them do the work, question them on technical details, make them jump through hoops, and when you have absolute proof, string them along a bit longer. What really set /diy/ apart from the rest of 4chan was how we dealt with trolls, we would troll them back because the board actually knew something, and if that troll beat us out, we celebrated them.

Anonymous Fri Dec 13 10:21:12 2019 No.1733689

>>1733603
I just never thought someone would be such a faggot they would be a lawn mower with a pruning saw and claim to be a big boy arborist. We should totally respect his shilling for ryobi electric fucking chainsaws.

OP is a faggot too of course, paid shill from ryobi.

Anonymous Fri Dec 13 10:45:07 2019 No.1733695

i have the ryobi 40V chainsaw. its decent enough for me pruning and limbing but i wouldnt take down anything too big with it. the original chain it came with was shit though. i have 4 batteries of various capacities and i still dont think it would work for constant usage.

nothing wrong with the machine itself though really

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 13 11:17:24 2019 No.1733710 >>1733571 Battery powered may be the future but 2 stroke is still the most chad way to power your chainsaw, snowmobile, and dirtbike

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 13 11:18:55 2019 No.1733711 >>1733489 Oy vey my grandpas chainsaw was gassed back in the 40s Only kosher and circumcised ryobi is allowed in my house

Anonymous Fri Dec 13 11:32:24 2019 No.1733717

>>1732981
Battery
>Actually having the capacity to handle a day's work
>A comparable weight for it's power
>Able to provide over 50cc equivalent power
>Cost
>Water resistance
>Lifespan

Plenty of problems with electric saws yet. They're GOAT for wealthier home maintenance kinds

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 13 11:33:46 2019 No.1733718 >>1733489 lmao

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 13 14:10:01 2019 No.1733789 https://youtu.be/mRRwbhN4-sU

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 13 14:24:49 2019 No.1733800 >>1732990 Fpbp

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 13 14:34:16 2019 No.1733807 >>1733170 you needed a saw for that? nigger a sawzall would have been better for the job and investment. idiot

Anonymous Fri Dec 13 14:54:22 2019 No.1733823

>>1732993
Lying faggot. Or poorfag.

If you have enough batteries on rotation it's a non issue.

Plus you're not outside jerking a rope 689 thousand fucking times getting some 2 stroke piece of shit running with corn juice in it at 110° after working all day.

All of that horseshit and then some vs "pull the trigger."

In 5 or 10 years gas lawn equipment will be more expensive and less efficient while also being 18,000 times as loud and upkeep.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 13 14:57:01 2019 No.1733825 File: 129 KB, 344x272, home_section_2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1733015 >tfw need a spool truck to cut firewood. Kek

Anonymous Fri Dec 13 14:59:45 2019 No.1733828

>>1733041

This is why i have an entire room full of nickle shit power tools and junk batteries. Just need to get a 3D printer and good soldering station and tab welder now so i can build adaptors and make every single tool in that room run off my own /diy 18650 pack. Fucking lithium rapists by the brand names can take their overpriced packs and shove em up their ass

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 13 15:02:25 2019 No.1733830 >>1733399 The future is now poorfaggots. Get a heavy lifting drone and meet your saw at the top!

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 13 15:03:30 2019 No.1733831 >>1733421 Ew really?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 13 15:04:52 2019 No.1733833 >>1733429 >he likes being woken ul at the asscrack of dawn to WAAAAAAAAAAAA WAAAA WAAAA WAAAA WAAA WAAAAAAAAAAAAA! Instead of getting up to take a piss qhen you hear a backup alarm and heading back to sleel with a soft zzzzzz

Anonymous Fri Dec 13 15:19:01 2019 No.1733841

>>1733465
You stupid fucking faggot...

Anon is trying to learn your noob ass something.

Retarded faggots like you are why contracts like this exist.

You schedual me to come paint your house there is a contract and nonrefundable deposit good towards the price of the paintjob and also good for shitcunts like you. I'm throlled as fuck when we show up and people are fighting or we get turned away. Only happens like one time a year. That's fine Mr. Cunt. I'll take you're $1,000 deposit and be on my merry way

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 13 15:22:06 2019 No.1733844 >>1733710 You ever rode a good 18650 powered dirtbike?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 13 16:04:29 2019 No.1733871 >>1733844 no but i readed gud book on engrish powered by 1850

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 13 16:20:18 2019 No.1733879 >>1733841 I was referring to pretty much any statement they made about being an arborist such as bringing a dozen saws to a job. They're not schooling us on anything just lying about pros using a suburban homeowner grade toy for actual tree work.

Anonymous Fri Dec 13 17:36:57 2019 No.1733915

>>1733689
If I am a shill, I am terrible at it, advocating the use of electrics for one niche task that no one in this thread will ever do. I have also never mentioned Ryobi or any brands.

>>1733841
We call it the asshole tax.

>>1733879
A dozen saws is not that many.. Two man crew being prepared for any job so we do not waste time driving back to the shop between every site, plus spares of the most used saws, and the guys running the chipper are going to need saws so they can lend a hand when needed, the chipper does not really have much room for saw storage. Pros do not care if it is 'suburban homeowner grade," we use the tool that is best suited and move on to the next job.

Anonymous Fri Dec 13 17:44:53 2019 No.1733918

>>1733828
I've debated making a power cord attachment out of a battery pack and using more commonly available, cheaper and non proprietary battery backs on some sort of rear fanny pack assembly. A lot more capacity, easier to fix and I can sue any chemistry I want.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 13 22:49:46 2019 No.1734071 >>1733844 > rode a good 18650 powered No, and your autocomplete changed "dildo" to "dirtbike" -- you should fix that. Even the Hitachi magic wand was corded for fuck sakes. Good stuff for pros only.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 13 22:56:40 2019 No.1734076 >>1733825 Actually we use generators. Just like on-site pipeline welders in alaska, or in construction work, or simply "Pros" if you want to use a generic term.

Anonymous Sat Dec 14 00:17:58 2019 No.1734134

>>1734076
Whats a good durable non diesel unit? I have free natural gas on the property, i want to leverage that. I need a good generator capable of 10k+ hours. Most of the cheap units available only last 1000, although I have heard champions can go 3000-5000 hours depending on how well you treat them.

Anonymous Sat Dec 14 00:31:16 2019 No.1734145

>>1734134

Sounds like you are going to run it continuously. There's a lot of pros that buy high end stuff and either (a) rebuild their own; or (b) know a guy that rebuilds them. I mean typically, you might do it every season, during the winter downtime (for example). This is a skill you should have if you own gasoline powered stuff.

Of course others I know just beat the living crap out of their stuff, try and take it back, and failing that just chuck it and buy another one. And of the people in the latter category, most of them look like they just got out of prison... because a lot of them did.

I don't know anything about natural gas generators, but I assume they need a lot of oil (which ain't going to be free). I'd want to get real good at maintaining because explode.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 01:11:47 2019 No.1734156 >>1733603 I'd gladly pay the 20% if they showed up with a hot wheels saw as I wouldnt risk having an amateur drop branches on my abode

Anonymous Sat Dec 14 01:26:21 2019 No.1734162

>>1734145
Not continuously but likely 1000 hours a year. I have solar and live off grid, I just need better generators. I have three on the property and they just don't cut it. I am selling a 40 KW generac from the 80s with a chevy v8 in it. it outstrips the gas supply, other than that, very nice unit that makes quality power.
The other is a 13 KW guardian generac. I hate that POS. Everything about it is wrong. It puts out 58 HZ at all times, I've read it was designed that way. It can't handle surge loads that my 5 kw champion handles fine.

They shouldn't explode. They all have a vacuum regulator. When the engine shuts off, the gas shuts off. Oil consumption is no worse than gas engines. They last longer as well, NG is cleaner than gasoline.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 01:31:45 2019 No.1734168 >>1733154 >its the future Ok boomer

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 05:15:38 2019 No.1734209 >>1733170 same but i use an adapter for better batts

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 11:45:03 2019 No.1734356 >>1733711 ah, thanks for the giggle fit, anon. as for the rest of you, I hope you choose to run your machines on gasoline, not onions

Anonymous Sat Dec 14 12:06:15 2019 No.1734371

>>1732981
had a chance to use the EGO chainsaw this fall. if you're using it for small trees about 8" or less in diameter it's fine and the battery lasts quite a long time. it actually surprised me. i wouldn't use it for a professional job for a weekend warrior who only needs to use it once a year to do basic yard work it will work fine.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 16:14:51 2019 No.1734506 >>1733421 i know your pain.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 16:55:06 2019 No.1734531 >>1732981 Radio Shack Junior King© model.

Anonymous Sat Dec 14 17:39:12 2019 No.1734554

With the gas if you practice proper maintenance it can last your whole life. The electric will guaranteed die in 5 to 10 years and you buy a new one.
Get the right tool for the job you want to do. Sometimes electric is fine, like drills or minor yard work, other times gas is better. You can get away with an electric mower if you have a small yard and you mow once a week. If you are a landscaper you want gas.
It's all about finding the right tool for your particular job.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 17:41:41 2019 No.1734555 >>1734554 That said, if anyone knows a good cordless/no compressor required framing nailer, I need one. Please recommend

Anonymous Sat Dec 14 17:51:02 2019 No.1734558

>>1734555
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Paslode-Angled-3-5-in-30-Degree-Cordless-Framing-Nailer/999995972?cm_mmc=shp-_-c-_-prd-_-tol-_-bing-_-pla-_--_-pneumatics-_-999995972-_-0&kpid&placeholder=null&msclkid=d1c802209b451dd267d15fd5fc7028ae&gclid=CM-An_OctuYCFSKPxQIdlREOKg&gclsrc=ds

Anonymous Sat Dec 14 19:29:44 2019 No.1734610
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>>1733807
Nigger please. I did the fist half of the tree (not pictured) with my reciprocating saw and it took forever and 3 4ah batteries. The ryobi saw did the rest in like 30 mins with just one 4 ah batt. Beside have you ever try to cut a 12in trunk with just a sawzall? Are you an idiot? I can tell you never used tools before. Just do yourself a favor and stay out of your dad's/ wife's bf tool shed before you get hurt faggot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 20:32:05 2019 No.1734639 >>1734610 >12 in trunk Well yeah thatd be problematic with a sawzall Luckily the biggest thing there seems to be 8

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 21:27:33 2019 No.1734690 >>1733015 >Get one with a cord. Why not just strap a 40v transformer on it and use it corded if that happens?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 14 21:29:48 2019 No.1734693 >>1733399 >a common fuel >that requires mixing >with a limited shelf life >and likely to spill

Anonymous Sat Dec 14 22:32:23 2019 No.1734744

>>1733571
have fun switching out batteries every 5 minutes. and buying new every few months. these 5ah fuckers aren't made with electric angle grinders or saws in mind. i've tried the 12ah milwaukee battery on a grinder though and these bad boys are insane. had to switch back to the 5ah because the torque was too much when coupled with a wire brush

Anonymous Mon Dec 16 06:44:41 2019 No.1735423

Theres no reason why a battery powered unit shouldn't be able to replace 2stroke. Just get a backpack and change big ass power cells.

Im not that shitty of mechanic and got an old gas powered saw. did just about everything and couldn't get the thing running consistently. Got it tuned to start, then got it running decent while warmed up, but once it cooled down it was back to square one. Gave up and when I came back to it the brand new fuel line was back to rotten from the ethanol in the gas. Marine gas is a retarded drive and you have to fill at the end of a dock. Just too much of a pain in the ass compared to what I remember from a corded electric. Maybe you cant win them all and my mileage may vary with a brand new saw but theres still the marine gas issues. Also beats the heck out of a hand saw which is my option right now which just works without the bullshit runaround which is what I would expect from a solid state electric motor. People nay saying electric are probably the same guys that wouldn't believe what was felled with axes and hand saws.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 16 11:03:17 2019 No.1735474 i have like the extreme economy model, and it works fine with enough cord. but to do some real shit you probably want gas.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 19 05:20:14 2019 No.1736797 >>1732981 Just don't be a fagit ezpz

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 19 05:38:13 2019 No.1736801 I used a Bosch battery saw. Was ok for the limited battery life between charges. The real bitch was trying to sharpen it because no centrifugal clutch which means you can't manually rotate the chain.

Anonymous Thu Dec 19 10:11:57 2019 No.1736874

>>1733918
Better off with a big backpack desu. Or a few backpacks so you can plug one or two in while using a 3rd.

Big 18650 packs or for smaller jobs just hump around big SLA. Just get a big 110v inverter and short cord. Done and done son. Mayne hang the inverter off a belt if you dont want to buy 3 of them.

Ive considered this also but proprietary packs with 600 custom built adapters seems better for me

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 19 10:12:33 2019 No.1736875 >>1734071 LOL ITT: SEETHING PRTROLKEKS

Anonymous Thu Dec 19 10:14:26 2019 No.1736877

>>1734134
Convert a junk lawnmower motor to natural gas and buy a pully or pto driven generator head.

Cheapest you'll get. What you got a well or someone else getting a $4,000 monthly gas bill?

You aren't my shiester ass ex-landlord that bypassed the meter are you?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 19 10:17:16 2019 No.1736878 >>1734168 >ok boomering a tech post. Litterally pants on arms retarded

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 19 10:17:54 2019 No.1736879 >>1734356 I'll just run mine on hho fueled by the sun and you gascucks salty tears...

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 19 10:19:09 2019 No.1736881 >>1734555 Dude they make a tone of belt battery powered framing guns. Any name brand fanboy shit is fine

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 19 10:20:14 2019 No.1736882 >>1734693 >muh seals >muh hoses >muh corn juice

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 21 05:08:54 2019 No.1737824 >>1736877 deeded access to a well. No meter.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 21 06:04:46 2019 No.1737825 Working for forestry there's no way we will switch to batteries unless there's some major advancement in battery tech making them smaller and lighter. Fuel is incredibly energy efficient in comparison.

Anonymous Sun Dec 22 05:58:18 2019 No.1738395

>>1737825
Solid state sodium batteries are right around the corner. More reliable, safer and 5 times lighter.
Its commercializing as we speak, look up john b goodenough sodium battery. Thats his real name. He invented the lithium battery. Lithium solid state as well with better cycle life but who are we kidding, they will go with sodium. Nearly 1000 watt hours a kg.

Anonymous Sun Dec 22 06:48:36 2019 No.1738401
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>>1734555
> good framing nailer
> no compressor required

Electric linear actuation sucks ass. Man up and run compressed air from the downstairs compressor to the job site.

Anonymous Sun Dec 22 06:58:19 2019 No.1738405

>>1738401
Yeah...I guess you've never seen the nailers that use a little butane cartridge for driving nails and the battery is to power a sparker. The only guys I see using compressors on jobsites now are roofers because it's cheaper enough to them to offset the pain of hoses. I guess I do also know a couple custom home trimwork guys that still use compressed air too because they're old school

Anonymous Sun Dec 22 08:22:59 2019 No.1738441

>>1738405
>Yeah...I guess you've never seen the nailers that use a little butane cartridge for driving nails and the battery is to power a sparker.

I know of gas powered nailers but I've never used one. Didn't know they use a battery powered sparker, but it does make sense, piezo elements being unreliable as fuck. Certainly sounds like a good concept since the driving force is not electrical. For I do hate any sort of electric nailing/stapling tools. Always need to follow up with a hammer anyway because they never drive anything in completely.

> pain of hoses

Yeah, that's why I ran plumbing with hookup points on every story in both house and barn, that allows for shortish enough hoses. I briefly considered a gas powered nailer but ended up opting for compressed air because that lets me run multiple sizes of nailer from the same power source and can also be used for blowing dirt/shavings/sawdust into an easily swept up pile.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 23:31:06 2019 No.1738927 >>1732981 Their 40V lawnmower is bretty gud, and it has headlights. Nothing better than quietly mowing your lawn in the pale moonlight.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 23 00:28:27 2019 No.1738956 >>1738395 So only 10% as efficient as gas.

Anonymous Mon Dec 23 01:58:13 2019 No.1738983

>>1738956
It will never hold as much energy as gas but remember, electric cars and motors are usually 2-3 times as efficient on an energy to wheel/output basis than a gas motor.
At 1000 watt hours a kg a chevy bolt with a 240 mile range and weights 980 lbs could weigh as little as 200-300 lbs. Some of that weight is cooling and bms. Over 600 lbs of weight reduction. Not saying it would replace gas cars but they would begin to become popular and viable for a lot of drivers. Also on a tool basis, it makes my dick rock hard. Electric lawn mowers would be very viable. 6 Ah 40 volt cell? Now roughly the same weight as a 50 Ah 40 volt cell. See what I mean?
That paltry 1/2 mow time is now several hours.

Anonymous Tue Dec 24 20:17:40 2019 No.1739785

>>1732981
I have a small plug-in chainsaw for cutting small shit. It works well up to about 2" branches and is easy to carry up into the tree.
But for getting the job done, it's two-stroke.
Don't have one battery operated tool.. Expensive to replace, always drained when you need them, and not made for any real work.

Anonymous Wed Dec 25 00:03:57 2019 No.1739844
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>>1739785
I have this guy and it will cut through a 23.75 inch diameter log from both sides no problem, maybe 45 seconds per side with a fresh blade. It will cut for an hour of actual cutting time on one charge going through normal 2-6 inch limbs. With 6 batteries in rotation I can work all day nonstop. I took down 3 60 foot trees in a day with this and a rented bucket lift, trunks and all up to almost 2 feet across. Yes a big gas saw will cut a little faster and an expensive one will cut a lot faster but this thing keeps pace with the smaller gas poulan pro saws and isn't far behind some of the 'pro' grade climbing saws. I use it way more than the gas saw simply because I use a chainsaw more often than I would if I didn't have the convenience of a battery saw.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 01:17:01 2019 No.1739864 >>1739844 Nice b8

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 01:20:32 2019 No.1739865 >>1738927 Nice b8

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 14:27:04 2019 No.1740486 File: 96 KB, 640x640, 1561751046678.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1732981 This girl prefers gas saws and so should you

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 19:58:48 2019 No.1740647 >>1740486 wow she even turned the bar upside down to show what an elite operator she is.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 14:11:26 2019 No.1742561 >>1739864 Nice b8

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 1 19:36:32 2020 No.1743900 >>1732981 Show us a genuinely tough electric chainsaw.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 1 23:26:39 2020 No.1744016 >>1732981 Show me a battery saw that cuts like a husqvarna 395

Anonymous Fri Jan 3 21:17:44 2020 No.1745104

>>1733363
Not quite, we use battery husqvarnas in the buckets a lot but most of us still use gas powered up in the trees. I did use one a T536Li XP today for a half dozen or so cuts while up in a big silver maple today. I liked it, cut pretty good and was substantially lighter than a 201.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 08:34:13 2020 No.1745262 >>1734610 >tools look fresh out of a box still >fancy wood bench top that's pristine >muh organized neat layout I spent hours on Nice, you don't actually do a fucking thing and bought tools for that "one time" project, fuck off manlet.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 09:36:31 2020 No.1745282 >>1732981 You forgot: Batteries: >Explosions >Housefires >Short runtime

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 18:39:49 2020 No.1745611 >>1733422 faggot liar detected

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 5 03:20:12 2020 No.1745857 >>1732981 once their energy density can match that of gasoline. I'm super pro electrical, but batteries can't offer the power to weight ratios that certain outdoor jobs demand.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 09:52:52 2020 No.1746577 >>1738983 Its too bad you don't have any concept of loading or that the world isn't linear. Otherwise, cool blog bro.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 15:03:20 2020 No.1746694 File: 12 KB, 298x224, 7D2608EB-9115-4954-9188-6FD6BC9B483F.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1745262 >Jealous poor nigger detected Uh I have more the one set of tools sweetie. I keep my shit clean you little defective squirt.

Anonymous Mon Jan 6 20:58:54 2020 No.1746858
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>>1733170
>>1734610
>Jew who bought a piece of shit fighting for value.

>>1740486
Based.

For the price and workload you cannot argue. Can even use it for some carpentry if you're using thicker lumber.

It's still a piece of shit for a chainsaw.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 21:04:36 2020 No.1746866 File: 41 KB, 1037x531, IMG_0056.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1732981 From my cold dead hands

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