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1702298 No.1702298 [Reply] [Original]

Why are you guys even buying tools anymore?

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/doer-stellen/doer-the-most-compact-tool-shed-youve-ever-seen

>> No.1702299

Miss me with that kickstarter shit

>> No.1702300

>>1702299
What's wrong? You can replace all of your tools with one box.

>> No.1702308

>>1702298
i have no clue what that is supposed to be but I can tell you categorically it looks like Hot Garbage

>> No.1702309

>>1702298
Not gonna lie, that looks like it's a nice started set for someone moving out of the house, student room, etc..

Also, the vid is equal parts cringe and fire. I respect that.

Sure, it's catch-all, so it won't be the best tools individually, but I dig what they're doing. Slap this in the cartrunk and you have yourself a nice bit of kit that beats the regular toolbox.

499 is a bit steep though.

>> No.1702320

>kickstarter projects going anywhere
>see all examples
just buy ryobi, or used tools for cheap if you're a diy'er. offbrand shit is always terrible

>> No.1702325

It's a duck. It can fly, walk and swim, but it's not good at any of it.

>> No.1702338

>he lives in a nice home
>has no room for a tool shed
lol

>> No.1702339

>>1702298
I bet you I could get the same amount of better quality tools for cheaper. Having them all in one storage box is nice, but unless you literally live in a capsule hotel, you should have space to store them all somewhere.

>> No.1702341

>>1702298
>Mini lathe
>Literally just the drill with a clamp on the other end.

It's rubbish.

>> No.1702344
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1702344

>circular saw doesnt even have a standard 7-1/4" blade
>deepest it can cut is 2-1/4"
Literally what is the point, this is fucking pathetic for what you're paying

>> No.1702348

The modularity is interesting from an engineering standpoint, but this is fathers day QVC special value shit.

>> No.1702350

Looks like cheap shit. Just buy Ryobi branded tools instead of half assing it with this garbage.

>> No.1702361

>>1702341
>lathe is best suited to turning shapes that are basically cylindrical

looking at what tolerance? plus or minus one-thousand thou?

>> No.1702394

>look for tool specs
>drill doesn't even have a torque spec
Even fucking Lidl provides a torque spec for their shitdrill. If for some reason you both need bad tools and extreme compactness, and don't mind paying a lot for it, then it's just the thing for you. But you can buy the same tools from Makita for the same money and they're not going to suck shit.

>> No.1702468

>>1702300
Bet not a single one of the tools works very well. Also kickstater is full of scams.

>> No.1702472

>>1702298
Look at those 1ah batteries. HAHAHA. I wouldn't even get this shit for my 1 year old daughter.

>> No.1702476

>>1702472
>daughter
I meant wife's son

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>>1702298
But if I order now do I get a second DOER toolbox free?

>> No.1702824

>>1702344
6-1/2" blades are the standard on Brushed cordless circular saws, only the really beefy Brushless models can run a 7-1/4" blade properly.

>> No.1702830

>>1702320
I saw that box, or another brand that is the same shit (I remember somebody posting a video of a black and green one) and it’s neat.

But all-in-one stuff is always mediocre at any one job, and you can get a fuckhueg Ryobi kit for $500, so even average homeowner has better options. Maybe a handyman who needs a real compact setup, but buying a Kickstarter brand for something you rely on to earn your paycheck is sketchy.

>> No.1702832

>>1702320
this, buy one of these larger combo kits off of the Home Depot website and you'll get more work done with less headaches.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/RYOBI-18-Volt-ONE-Lithium-Ion-Cordless-8-Tool-Combo-Kit-with-1-4-0-Ah-Battery-1-1-5-Ah-Battery-18-Volt-Charger-and-Bag-P1894/300343012

https://www.homedepot.com/p/RYOBI-18-Volt-ONE-Lithium-Ion-Cordless-12-Tool-Combo-Kit-with-1-4-0-Ah-Battery-1-1-5-Ah-Battery-18-Volt-Charger-and-Bag-P1896/300342953

>> No.1702835

>>1702824
That’s not really a good excuse for the thing. 7-1/4” brushless saws and big lithium batteries have helped to change the game with cordless tools. Honestly these days you really don’t need corded anything.

>> No.1702866

>>1702309
>nice bit of kit
you got a license for that slang m8?

>> No.1702867

>>1702824
Cordless should never have used those bitch-mode 6-1/2" blades.

>> No.1702868

>>1702325
This right here

>> No.1702871

>>1702867
they literally couldnt handle anything bigger until like 3 years ago. even now saws from Ryobi and Ridgid with full-sized 7-1/4" blades will leave you lacking in terms of power, especially when compared to a cheaper corded model.

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1702879

>>1702472
>>1702394
Looking at the Kickstarter more, the $500 kit ($799 or whatever they claim full retail will be) only comes with 1x 2.0Ah battery and no AC converter.

If you really want to run that thing, you would have to spend a bit more. There’s no way any of those saws would run more than a few minutes on a 2.0 battery.

Curious to see what the AC adapter looks like for that thing, it has to be pretty beefy.

Other things to note from the video: the lathe and sander running off a wobbly drill chuck and a bunch of plastic supports look pretty much useless for anything besides basic hobby projects. And whenever they release it, they claim to have a 2 year warranty, but there is a whole lot of plastic crap to break in that kit, so they definitely need a replacement parts catalog.

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>>1702879
>>1702830
Oh and pic related is the one I saw awhile back, pretty much the same thing minus the foam cutter. Looks like it was about the same pricing, somewhere between $500-$1000. The rating is fucking awful.

Maybe the new kickstarter learned from the problems with the old one? Or it’s the same people releasing it under another name because the old company folded when 75% of the buyers were trying to warranty the thing. Even if this thing was manufactured by Hilti and sold for $2000+, there are so many moving parts and something is bound to break in the first few months with any real use.

There’s no fucking way any of those tools are going to stay square when trying to make cuts.

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>>1702882
Same shit, different name.

>> No.1702927

>>1702309

>bit of kit

Fuck off, smoothbrain.

>> No.1702932

>>1702879
>it has to be pretty beefy.
It is not, it's 250W. Maybe it has a big cap in it, probably not.

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>>1702919
Oh shit, I tried to Google it to see if it was the same guy, but I didn’t turn up much. Just saw pic related, so it obviously is the same Chinese crap with slight upgrades.

I had a feeling it could be the same people. That’s too funny. The Amazon reviews are terrible too, so many people bought that old setup and a couple months later tried to contact the company for warranties and got absolutely nothing.

There’s very little on Google considering how much money they raised and how popular this thing should be. Watch this one do the same exact thing: sell off the crowdfunding models, then sell off the rest from the shipping container currently sitting in China, then fold as soon as enough people want them to warranty shitty Chinese lithium batteries and a bunch of cutting tools that are consistently off by 5deg.

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>>1702940
>Speaking of cheap Chinese shit...

>> No.1702948

>>1702941
Where did you find this? Google gives me nothing. I even tried searching for that Joseph Meyer to see if he had a Linkedin or something that put him with that CEL thing.

When you look at the CEL box, it’s obvious that it’s 100% Chinesium. But this Kickstarter lists that “Project Manager” as the head guy like he is some young American engineer who wants a cool power tool.

That Kickstarter was put up a couple weeks ago too and has quite a bit of $$$, there are lots of people about to get scammed.

>> No.1702951

>>1702948
I scrolled to the bottom of the kickstarter. You need to take your time and read more thorough, man.

>> No.1702963

>>1702941
funny that they put a white man in their ad.

>> No.1703020
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>>1702963
That is the only person they name on the Kickstarter as well, the name that sounds like a white American engineering student. They couldn’t use the other round-eye because his last name sounds kind of black.

I guarantee they wouldn’t have raised $50k this afternoon alone if they put Ling Xi’s name on there.

>>1702951
Now I see it on the other page. I didn’t need to read it to suspect it was reboot of the other $500+ machine from the company that mysteriously disappeared right around the time that all of their customers wanted replacement parts and warranty work.

>It sold to over 50,000 customers because it was so good, and this one is even better!
Odd that they had to pull this scam if the 2010 model was so successful.

>> No.1703096

>>1703020
It really disgusts me how transparent this scam is when laid bare.

>> No.1703249

>>1703096
Aside from the obvious scam, the problem with the original one was that every included tool was the cheapest possible Chinesium $19.99 Harbor Freight shipping container special all blended into one.

So do the math, those shitty tools might have a 10% failure rate within the 90-day HF warranty. Now multiply that across 10 different functions on the box, plus two cheap ass Chinesium batteries, so let’s say 12 different things that have a 10% chance of failure with 90 days of moderate use... this means you have a <30% chance of every function still working properly after that time frame. Even with the cheapest manufacturing and sales processes, there’s no way the company could survive offering a 2-year warranty on the thing.

I’m curious what failure or warranty % a company like Hilti gets on each of their tools and batteries. There’s always a risk that the batteries will crap out early, so even with a 99% survival rate for each tool across the warranty period, the company is still going to be repairing or replacing >10% of them, and there’s no way that Chink QC is anywhere near that.

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>>1703096
>>1703249
Forgot pic

The math doesn’t work any way. A 5% failure-warranty rate across any single tool over the 2 years means <60% of the boxes would survive. Even with the fine print written in Hebrew, the company would need to sell that thing for twice as much to cover their ass and survive for a few years.

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>>1702298
Not gonna do it
I don't trust orange power tools

>> No.1703350

So did the marketing guy that posted this forget how to delete?

>> No.1703368

>>1702298
I can see the market and appeal for this sort of thing.
Its just a small cordless tool kit with a stand.

A bit pricy, a little cheap on the quality, but for the very light use its going to see from the market its going for, itll probably be fine.

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>>1703311
That’s what you get for buying Worx and B&D and Wen. They don’t even have a Lifetime* Service** Agreement!

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1703425

>>1702298
Can it stretch boards?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgS6-O2APWY

>> No.1703435

>>1702298
Can't help but notice the black girl lives in the hood (graffiti).

>> No.1703827

>>1703350
Real Talk: I was trying to see how you guys would respond.

>> No.1703843

>>1702298
looks like cheap garbage that'll break within three months

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1704927

>>1702919
>We're Stealin

>> No.1704928

>>1702941
I'll contribute a couple bucks for Pauline's noodz.

>> No.1704942

>>1702941
>choose your fighter

>> No.1704958

>>1703368
Going by their previous set that had the same pricetag and build quality, evidently not. >>1702882

>> No.1704972
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1704972

I like it.

>> No.1705034

>>1702298
95k of 40k goal

For untested, unproven, off brand tools.

Stay at home soccer dads at their finest here

>> No.1705046

>>1705034
950k*

And it is sort of proven with the last model, and it was absolute shit.

It’s cheap for what they claim you get, but it’s a big chunk of change and you could get a quality cordless 4-5+ tool kit with that money.

Normies are stupid, it’s probably a bunch of wives buying it for their husbands for Christmas.

>> No.1705182

>>1702309
>that price
and it looks like those roadside tool liquidation stalls.
5 to 9 levels below harbor freight shit.

>> No.1705197

>>1702309
$499 is the basic price.
You need to spend $700 to get the proper kit.

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1705345

>>1702963
nothing personal kid, just business

>> No.1705349

>>1705197
That low price was with a single 2.0Ah battery and no AC power supply. You won’t be able to do shit with any of the saws with a single 2.0.

The main difference between the old one is the foam cutter. That one makes me curious, like maybe they’re trying to shift this thing from Home Depot customers over to Hobby Lobby customers.

See >>1703435 that is an art student with a white dad from the suburbs and now she lives in a gentrifying neighborhood.

I think that might be the new marketing approach, Pinterest instead of Toolguyd.

>> No.1705391

>>1705349
That was my thought too; it's all overpriced, but for someone say making wargames terrain or such using materials like foam, MDF, plastic, etc they should all work well enough.

>> No.1705410

>>1703425
hearty chuckle.

>> No.1705679

>>1702298
I already have a black and decker matrix, i don't need another one that isn't compatible with it

>> No.1705680

>>1702824
6.5 blades are the redheaded stepchild of circular saws.

5.5 for super long runtime as long as you are cutting thin stuff and occasionally up to 2x4 dimensional lumber

7.25 for full size work on a corded or brushless saw, with the advantage of not needing separate blades for your saw

>> No.1705681

>>1705034
>unproven
false,

they are proven to be total shite

>> No.1705687

>>1705391
>etc they should all work well enough
the last version had a tendency to stop taking a charge after one use.

you would be vastly better off just getting the walmart HT charge tools (now that they have started selling separate batteries)

they still won't be good, but will be hundreds of dollars cheaper and will mostly work correctly

>> No.1705702

>>1705687
Oh yeah; I'm not saying buy it; I just mean you won't burn em out working on foam and mdf.

>> No.1706281

in my town we have this thing place called the tool barn and for 60 bucks a year I can borrow any too I need as many times as I want.

>> No.1707761

>>1702486
that guy's face kills me. he's like irl beavis

>> No.1707789

You're always better off with a tool meant to do a certain job correctly rather than one tool that is meant to do 10 jobs crappily.

>> No.1707839

>>1702486
>just pay $499.95 S&H

>> No.1707846

This could be pretty cool if you live in an RV and travel around and like to diy shit, or maybe in a studio apartment where the space is at a premium

i don't mind at all if i's chinkshit everything is chinkshit today BUT i only don't mind if they sell it at chinkshit prices