Which tools are basically playing russian roulette?

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Anonymous Sun Apr 7 15:45:04 2019 No.1588325 [Reply] [Original]

Which tools are basically playing russian roulette?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 7 15:49:50 2019 No.1588327 File: 1.47 MB, 1793x1080, 577_2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 7 15:50:02 2019 No.1588328 >>1588325 I have used plently of grinders..never an issue. I wear welding gloves though lol. the only time I had an issue was when I share of metal went in my eye, make sure you get the full coverage googles when using them

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 7 15:57:45 2019 No.1588333 >>1588327 Fpbp

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 7 15:59:38 2019 No.1588334 Angle grinders are safe.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 7 17:52:50 2019 No.1588384 >>1588327 What is this tool used for?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 7 18:02:56 2019 No.1588395 >>1588384 Shooting niggers who are trying to steal your tools

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 7 18:19:21 2019 No.1588422 any of them if you're an Idiot

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 8 04:05:48 2019 No.1588758 >>1588325 Cheap measuring instruments. Even "brand" ones like General.

>>	Milwaukee Mon Apr 8 04:44:47 2019 No.1588778 File: 12 KB, 460x460, E6C33524-5235-4003-A7A1-AC1169B635DA.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1588325 nice bait but that grinder has a handle and guard on it pic related. way more fucking dangerous

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 8 06:35:47 2019 No.1588807 File: 178 KB, 500x333, 48566D1D-C5BD-44FE-B4F0-2337F9944E13.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1588325 No such thing as a small oops here

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 8 21:55:18 2019 No.1589213 >>1588395 hmm, into the box it goes

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 9 02:12:43 2019 No.1589294 >>1588807 Never used a lathe, but from what I've seen on the internet I'm scared to be in a room with it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 9 02:29:04 2019 No.1589298 File: 20 KB, 800x1067, manholeladder_0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Get on my level.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 9 03:09:41 2019 No.1589305 >>1589294 Safe if not retarded

Anonymous Tue Apr 9 03:10:34 2019 No.1589306

>>1589294
don't wear long sleeves, ties, or loose clothing, anything with strings hanging down.

then you should be fine and the chances of a bad lathe accident are like one in a million, just don't touch the fucking work when it's spinning.

If you want to avoid most of the danger then get a CNC lathe with a spindle door interlock that makes sure it turns off the spindle when you open the door to fuck with stuff.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 9 22:42:39 2019 No.1589767 File: 62 KB, 640x480, 86.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1588778 True that. The real truth is that you get hurt when you're too confident. You've done this thousands times and you're not ware of the risk anymore.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 9 22:50:22 2019 No.1589770 >>1588325 literally anything that spins and is sharp or has enough torque to fuck you up

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 9 22:53:06 2019 No.1589771 >>1588325 for $20 at walmart I'm just going to replace mine if/when it breaks

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 9 22:53:29 2019 No.1589772 File: 29 KB, 512x434, pieceofshitequipment.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1589294 Long sleeves near a lathe scares me. And gloves.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 9 23:01:03 2019 No.1589774 >>1588325 I'll be honest nothing in my shop scares me more than an angle grinder. I get sketched out when I'm watching people use them on youtube while wearing long sleeves and gloves

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 9 23:08:38 2019 No.1589776 >>1589771 They're $9.99 at HF. I have a Metabo with that sexy stall clutch for actual cutoff work, but for flap disks and wire brushes, I have a few HF junkers ready to go with those. I only fear cutoff disks on a cheap grinder.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 10 00:39:19 2019 No.1589801 >>1588807 Nice levelling job there. And rust. Why is expensive shit like this wasted on idiots?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 10 00:42:53 2019 No.1589803 >>1589801 It's obviously in a storage warehouse.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 10 01:29:30 2019 No.1589817 How fragile are 1/16 inch cutting wheels? I avoid angle grinders as much as possible since I don't like shit that breaks easy going at 11000 rpms, fuck dremels too.

>>	MrCummy Wed Apr 10 01:30:26 2019 No.1589818 >>1588325 I use a grinder every day, never had an accident

>>	C¤©¤ℕυͳ !!ejZnhfeYlll Wed Apr 10 01:49:32 2019 No.1589821 >>1589298

Milwaukee Wed Apr 10 04:13:18 2019 No.1589867

>>1589774

theyre safer than a lot of tools you may encounter. i regularly use a 7 inch no guard/handle, barefoot with just shorts and a tshirt on in the summer and safety glasses. while at home at anyways at work i wear steeltoes coveralls safety glasses. use it properly you have nothing to worry about. ive hurt myself way fucking worse with an olfa knife. and my hours on a grinder are thousands of times my hours using an olfa knife

Milwaukee Wed Apr 10 04:17:31 2019 No.1589871
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>>1589817

dont buy cheap wheels

i only use walter zipcuts and ive never had one break, and ive done some fucking dicey shit even for my standards

most that will happen is the center where the nut holds will strip out and the pinion shaft of the grinder will spin inside the wheel, but it stays intact and still in place, just freewheels

Anonymous Wed Apr 10 12:10:30 2019 No.1590052

>>1589867
Like? Name a common tool as dangerous.

I'll give you any rotary tool is dangerous for the same reasons, but a handheld tool obviously as additional risks that a stationary tool like a lathe does not have. Its true that with proper form you can prevent the risk of kickbacks but we all know people that have been in the trades for decades still getting bit by an angle grinder like that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 10 12:12:35 2019 No.1590054 File: 39 KB, 355x355, 61E2q3PhfrL._SY355_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] never had issues but it still feels like you're about to die

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 10 12:19:54 2019 No.1590059 >>1590054 Want to do this on steroids? Go wind a torsion spring for a garage door with two pieces of rebar. Truly a terrifying experience.

Anonymous Wed Apr 10 12:51:28 2019 No.1590069

>>1588778
I have identical tool for 25 years.
Whats scary about it?

>>1589306
So those should be operated naked, granted one has small dick/not-sagging boobs if female?

>>1589767
Well but that's like, with every tool.
Use one 10.000 times - you're confident with it.
I'm not sure if it's a valid argument.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 10 13:10:38 2019 No.1590079 Maybe I'm dumb, what's so dangerous about an angle grinder?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 10 13:12:37 2019 No.1590080 >>1590079 The cut off discs are made of Explodium.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 10 13:28:39 2019 No.1590085 >>1590080 Legitimate kek

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 10 13:58:38 2019 No.1590106 >>1590079 >>1590080 They also tend to shoot fire around everywhere.

Milwaukee Wed Apr 10 14:19:00 2019 No.1590125

>>1590052

dont get me wrong an angle grinder in an unfamiliar worker/hobbyists hands is scary to watch to put it lightly. im just stating my opinion.

a lathe is without a doubt no question more dangerous than an angle grinder. not even in the same ballpark. with a lathe there are a lot more things going on, at higher torques. ive personally seen a parting tool get pulled under and flipped/thrown out and stick right into a bystanders neck about 10 feet away. nobody ever would predict that its not able to be prepared for. with an angle grinder, assuming you know what the fuck youre doing literally every life threatening danger is avoidable

and dont try to say kickbacks are unavoidable because they absolutely are. if your grinder kicks backwards towards you then you fail right off the hop because a properly used grinder only ever pulls itself away from you. theres never a reason to cut or grind with the side of the wheel that pushes the grinder towards you

if youre using a grinder and the sparks are flying away from you, youre doing it wrong. always shoot the sparks towards you, if you cant deal with that then grab a hacksaw

Milwaukee Wed Apr 10 14:23:53 2019 No.1590129

>>1590052

and i did name a tool; the olfa knife. those little bastards are the worst and i avoid them like the plague. in total just a rough estimation i would say ive spent probably about 4 or 5 hours using an olfa knife, but probably over 2000 with an angle grinder. ive had a couple close calls with a grinder, but never anything serious. with an olfa knife i always seem to cut my finger tips off and its nothing serious but it fucking hurts like a bastard for a few days.

inb4 "lol dont cut towards yourself" if youve used an olfa knife youve cut yourself with one lets be real here

Anonymous Wed Apr 10 14:43:41 2019 No.1590134

>>1590129
Obviously you have to cut towards yourself, let's not even acknowledge the mouth breathers that say otherwise. Here is my point though. I'm sure you would agree pretty much every single injury you have ever had with a box cutter has been relatively minor, usually small cuts and the occasional deeper wound that requires attention and possibly even stitches. I agree those are injuries, yet when you talked about the angle grinder in >>1590125 you very specifically excluded injuries that aren't life threatening. Now I'll address the content of that response.

>with a lathe there are a lot more things going on, at higher torques
Sure and as long as you work within the tools specs and follow all safety rules, you are never within the danger zone while the machine is on. I am arguing that an angle grinder is more dangerous than a lathe when operating it precisely within the bounds of the safe operating procedures.

> ive personally seen a parting tool get pulled under and flipped/thrown out and stick right into a bystanders neck about 10 feet away.
Why were guards off of the machine? You wouldn't be using an outdated and unsafe machine? I would never point to electrocution risks with old ungrounded angle grinders as a hazard of using angle grinders.

>and dont try to say kickbacks are unavoidable because they absolutely are.
I didn't, I said even people with decades of experience have accidents. If you really are going to argue "you are always supposed to use the grinder so that it pulls away from you" you can't bitch and moan if a safety sally tells you not to cut towards yourself with a box cutter.

We haven't even gotten into shattered disks, which we both know can rarely happen even with proper inspection before use if a cut off wheel kicks into something too hard while running, the disk is used improperly with side loading, or there are manufacturing defects (which are somewhat common on bottom barrel wheels)

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 10 15:35:57 2019 No.1590178 >>1588758 Can relate

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 10 15:46:00 2019 No.1590187 File: 139 KB, 600x1063, GoddamnBumperJack.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] These fucking things.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 10 16:21:44 2019 No.1590205 >>1590054 I’ve seen one fail, went through the roof, literally.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 10 16:22:47 2019 No.1590207 >>1590187 Bumper jack?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 10 16:25:41 2019 No.1590210 File: 1.82 MB, 320x240, F7971B3E-9412-47F7-9B85-D372EC954EE9.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Does /diy/ safetysaw?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 10 16:29:25 2019 No.1590214 >>1590210 No. If I lose fingers I can go on disability and pick up a career as a check casher and nascar watcher.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 10 16:29:30 2019 No.1590215 >>1589298 >Get on my level. I cwhatudidthar

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 10 16:29:45 2019 No.1590216 >>1590210 It's cheaper to have my amputated finger sewn back on than it is to buy SawStop.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 10 16:35:14 2019 No.1590224 File: 31 KB, 500x500, 41WVZKoslEL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Wed Apr 10 16:40:31 2019 No.1590229

>>1590210
Im not opposed to a safe saw, but fuck Sawstop right in the ass.

They own patents
They used those patents to stop Bosch from selling their superior sawstopping system.

They are also lobbying to government to mandate sawstop technology into all tablesaws.
Look it up, pushing for bureaucracy so they can make profit is so fucking wrong.
They wont see a cent of my money.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 10 16:48:36 2019 No.1590237 >>1590229 You mean Bosch, a multinational corporation attempted to STEAL the IP of a small family owned business to crush them with their scale- was stopped from stealing the IP; and you are mad at the small business? What is wrong with you?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 10 16:52:15 2019 No.1590241 >>1590125 Grinders are inherently safe! >unless of course its a hobbyist or unskilled person! Lathes are inherently unsafe >because of a made up story about someone who didnt know how to use a parting tool Nice opinion.

Anonymous Wed Apr 10 16:59:26 2019 No.1590247

>>1590237
They built their OWN system that worked better, cheaper cartridges, didnt destroy your blades when it fired. Objectively better in every single way.

The only thing they "stole" was the idea of a retracting blade.

Fuck you for trying to defend a patent troll, and fuck you for trying to defend any faggot introducing horse shit legislation at the expense of ALL consumers out of greed.

>oh boo hoo a small family owned business
Yeah, small business doing unfathomably slimy practices to profit off of you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 10 17:11:49 2019 No.1590264 >>1590247 So you agree they stole the intellectual property, congrats that is all we need to discuss.

Anonymous Wed Apr 10 17:12:49 2019 No.1590265

>>1588328

This.

The hospital in my country couldn't do anything but send me home and told me to come back the next day to get it taken out by the eye guy so I had to "sleep" with a shard in my eye.

Next day the surgical eye guy came late and used a needle to cut it out. I had to be wide awake and holding my eye straight. I am already very flinchy and have a very strong fear of hurting my over sensitive eyes (if I go to a white sand beach I can't open my eyes) so it took him a couple tries.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 10 17:20:54 2019 No.1590277 >>1590264 >not only defending sawstops bad business practices, defending bad patent trolling Must be a shill, no other reasonable answer honestly.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 10 17:22:15 2019 No.1590279 >>1590264 Wow move the saw out of the way, what great intellectual property. Almost as great as patenting a square and force everyone to pay or use a hexagon.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 10 17:35:42 2019 No.1590286 >>1590279 Patent laws in the US are absolutely fucked Look up Apple vs VirnetX lawsuit The patents they hold are vague and Apple was forced to pay out 700+ million dollars over mundane features. Its all bullshit.

Milwaukee Wed Apr 10 18:07:21 2019 No.1590297

>>1590134

>you very specifically excluded injuries that aren't life threatening

allow me to correct myself. i specified life threatening to level the playing field of angle grinder vs lathe re: safety. 100% of injury is avoidable with an angle grinder. and i say this with confidence backed by my thousands of hours of research on the subject. the people who get majorly injuried with a grinder are not using it properly, end of story. the people who get injured while operating a lathe may be fully competent and versed in their day to day operations and still be in constant danger of the unpredictability expanded on below.

>You wouldn't be using an outdated and unsafe machine?

actually i use outdated unsafe machines quite often but i am able to think for myself and assess the hazards to be encountered and then gauging how far to push the limits before shit gets hairy. also of course there were no guards on it this was an old conventional not a cnc

>I am arguing that an angle grinder is more dangerous than a lathe when operating it precisely within the bounds of the safe operating procedures.

i disagree with this entirely as even if youre following procedure to a T, the general unpredictability of having a rotating mass often hundreds of pounds and spinning at potentially a high rpm trumps that of an angle grinders by a landslide. its no competition. although i do admit my opinion could be biased due to my many hours of grinding accident free.

>"you are always supposed to use the grinder so that it pulls away from you" you can't bitch and moan if a safety sally tells you not to cut towards yourself with a box cutter.

sorry but you took this the wrong way. most of the time i cut myself ive been cutting away from myself. i added this as a disclaimer so i didnt get 4 replies by the inevitible thinks-hes-clever shitposter

regardless i commend your well formatted and respectful, logical rebuttal.

1/2

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 10 18:21:35 2019 No.1590300 >>1590277 >>1590279 If you are the first person to think of a square why should you not be allowed to profit off of your discovery that will undoubtedly make the world a better place?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 10 18:28:59 2019 No.1590301 >>1590300 A retracting blade in a tablesaw has long since been a thing In fact Craftsman used to have an electric table saw where a button would retract the blade automatically, so retracting after an electric signal isnt even a new concept.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 10 18:32:07 2019 No.1590302 >>1590301 If that is as simple as the patent was, why did a court agree with sawstop- despite their less expensive legal team?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 10 18:36:55 2019 No.1590307 >>1589298 Statistically the most lethal.

Anonymous Wed Apr 10 18:40:37 2019 No.1590310

>>1590302
The same reason a no name nothing company like VirnetX conned 700 million dollars out of a 1 trillion dollar company like Apple.
Because vague worthless patents coupled with laws that are up to interpretation by biased courts breed this sort of thing.

Our patent laws are much like our gambling laws, antiquated and woefully inadequate for the modern age.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 10 18:41:57 2019 No.1590311 >>1590310 >>1590302 Oh, dont forget that SawStop was invented by a former Patent Attorney too.

Anonymous Wed Apr 10 18:45:18 2019 No.1590315

>>1590310
Wrong. Literally go read that patents they aren't that simple. The court found that Bosch was in violation of US7895927B2 and US8011279. Both of which establish a standard that the blade is automatically lowered as a result of an accident detection system.

That literally is the entire premise of saw stop and we both know it.

Anonymous Wed Apr 10 19:00:41 2019 No.1590322
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>>1590315
So a patent on a deletion system for a dangerous condition
And a patent on a system for braking the blade, and a patent on a system for retracting the blade.

Those are the big ones in conjunction with his other 100+ patents he holds.

The American dream is still alive, litigation,entrepreneurship, and forcing your ways onto those less fortunate than you!

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 10 19:07:25 2019 No.1590323 >>1590322 >wah I want to steal the idea someone else came up with but I can't neck yourself

Anonymous Wed Apr 10 19:11:11 2019 No.1590329

>>1590323
>as a patent lawyer i want to vaguely patent anything and everything related to safety in woodworking equipment
>finally get one to work, spend millions to have others design and build it for me
>use this leverage to patent troll and lobby for mindless bureaucracy

You are literally defending this scum of the earth. Dont be surprised that people dont agree with you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 10 19:27:46 2019 No.1590348 >>1590329 If he was nothing but a patent troll he wouldn't bother building a brand and shipping units. The reality is he built a business around his idea for the safety device and has dedicated his life to the business.

Anonymous Wed Apr 10 19:36:08 2019 No.1590355

>>1590348
>he wouldn't bother building a brand and shipping units.

He tried to sell the technology for almost a decade and nobody wanted it. Everyone realized how expensive it was and how it would make their saws unprofitable.
He made the SawStop saw business as a last resort, you cant get royalties from forcing new safety laws if you dont have systems in a saw.

I guess he finally decided the safety law plan wasnt quite going to work out, seeing how his patents run out in like 3 years.
He decided to sell out and Festool owns SawStop now.

Cant wait for the vastly superior Reaxx to come back to the USA

Anonymous Wed Apr 10 19:45:30 2019 No.1590360

>>1590355
>Everyone realized how expensive it was and how it would make their saws unprofitable.
Right so he then said fuck it and invested his money and time in building a brand, and what do you know, they are now the most popular premium brand of table saw. Looks to me like he invented a new piece of technology, and spotted a hole in the market that no one else could.

Fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 10 19:50:11 2019 No.1590366 >>1590360 >spotted a hole in the market that no one else could. Obviously not, when you are patent trolling

Anonymous Wed Apr 10 19:53:10 2019 No.1590369

>>1590366
Really how? He came up with the idea, marketed it to companies in the saw market and NONE of them thought it was enough of a value add to license into their products. Why should I bother coming up with an idea if everyone else can just rip it off?

You clearly agreed with me he tried to license it to companies before going into business for himself, this is literally how almost all small inventions end up making it to market. Once you secure your IP you try and sell the rights to companies because its so hard to launch your own brand. If no one is interested in my idea but I think it's worth buying, then I will try and build my company to support the idea.

Literally fuck yourself.

Anonymous Wed Apr 10 19:56:30 2019 No.1590372

>>1590069
The main thing is that you don't really have to be near the big spinny thing. The controls are not near the big spinny thing. There are times where you sand or file on work while it is spinning, but there are techniques to do that safely. There are only a couple of rules that would keep you safe. I've never heard of a lathe accident that happened while these rules were followed (except that time where the spindle on an old lathe actually cracked, letting go the camlock lugs on a chuck while it was spinning. Popped out like a fat bowling ball and thankfully not into anybody). Other than the chuck/work, the other thing to look out for is the feed shafts/lead screw. The "no loose fitting clothes" would save you there too though. And there is no need to hump the machine. Plus, these spin pretty slowly in comparison to the chuck. They spin in relation to how fast your feed is. So the only time they would have a large ratio of speed vs the chuck is during threading, but you don't spin the work that fast for that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 10 19:59:30 2019 No.1590374 >>1590265 M8. What the fuck hospital did you go to?

Anonymous Wed Apr 10 20:01:28 2019 No.1590375

>>1590369
>NONE of them thought it was enough of a value add to license into their products

He wanted royalties of 10%. TEN FUCKING PERCENT.
His greed is why nobody licensed with him.
He lucked out that SawStop became somewhat popular.

>Why should I bother coming up with an idea if everyone else can just rip it off?

Why bother coming up with anything when you can just patent something vague with 100 different ways of wording it, then just sit back and wait for someone else to accidentally infringe on it?

Just because he got some motivation and pulled out of the hole he had dug doesnt change that he is a piece of shit.

Anonymous Wed Apr 10 20:18:23 2019 No.1590381

>>1590375
>He wanted royalties of 10%. TEN FUCKING PERCENT.
and look at the damage sawstop did to powermatic, delta, grizzly, and friends? They took like 12% of the market in less than a decade from brands that have been established for 30 years. He didn't "Luck out" that sawstop became successful, he was right that people would spend far more for a saw with the technology than one without. Look at the delta price between comparable sawstop cabinet saws and powermatic cabinet saws, easily >10% price difference, which would have covered the royalty.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 10 20:19:49 2019 No.1590384 >>1590374 Probably one in Europe.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 10 20:23:25 2019 No.1590386 >>1590381 >>1590375 Here you go- middle of the road carpenter table saw from each company with 1.75 HP motors, sawstop: $2067 powerfaggit: $1699 %difference =100*(2067-1699/2067)=17.8% >17.8% increased profit Once again neck yourself.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 10 20:51:00 2019 No.1590392 >>1588807 Those Chinese security camera videos are horrifying, yet I can't stop watching them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 10 21:16:46 2019 No.1590421 File: 57 KB, 650x282, dressers_zoom.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] never had an issue, but I've heard bad things and am thus paranoid about these.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 10 21:30:15 2019 No.1590432 >>1590421 What is that??! I have something like that from a crate of tools I bought but no brand name or model name on it and I have no idea.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 10 21:37:41 2019 No.1590435 >>1590432 it's for dressing the wheels on a bench grinder. I've seen pics of bench grinder stones embedded in necks and recommendations to wear a full face mask when using a dresser.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 10 21:37:59 2019 No.1590437 >>1590432 Grinding wheel dresser

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 10 22:20:28 2019 No.1590466 File: 104 KB, 1000x1000, cheese-grater.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 10 22:23:22 2019 No.1590470 >>1590054 Sorry n00b here, what is this creature?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 10 22:38:17 2019 No.1590478 >>1590466 Jesus man this is a blue board

>>	Mrcrummy !PAWSmuoJ2g Thu Apr 11 02:45:49 2019 No.1590551 File: 46 KB, 395x395, turquoisehexagonsun.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1590279 hexagons are better anyway dude

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 11 02:49:20 2019 No.1590552 >>1590302 Because naturally an American court will side with an American company over a German one.

>>	Milwaukee Thu Apr 11 03:05:01 2019 No.1590558 >>1590297 2/2 whoops had a shit creep up on me mid post and got side tracked. forgot what else i had to say. oh well you get the idea

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 11 04:43:31 2019 No.1590581 File: 75 KB, 574x574, mandoline.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1590466 >>1590478

Anonymous Thu Apr 11 05:16:03 2019 No.1590592

>>1590264
>>1590247
>>1590237
>>1590229
>>1590210
>be sawstop guy
>try to sell you invention to the big guys
>big guys be like hahaha fuck you we be like hasbro and we wait for fidget spinner patent to die, and steal your shit, and we all collude to kill you from enter the market

>sawstop be like fuck you guys I will make my own saws!!!
>build high quality saws

>be bosch be like im german and shit, i can do it better, does it
>sawstop is salty cause they all kicked him to the curb, and now they want le safety.

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>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 11 05:30:44 2019 No.1590595 File: 77 KB, 640x640, s-l640.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1588325 This bitch will fuck your hands up, make them into grated cheese

Anonymous Thu Apr 11 05:42:25 2019 No.1590601
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>>1589767
Ages ago I remember seeing footage of a 2-stroke concrete cutter with an abrasive wheel on it someone had fucked with to cut metal girders with. Course being retards they took the guard off presumably to fit the wrong sized wheel under it, there's this skinny cunt with his safety squints on, ramming the motherfucker into a beam like it owes him money.
>disk cuts loose
>literally takes a 1/3rd of his head clean off
>bystanders supervising this fuckery- metal and disk splinters all through them

It was literally like a grenade going off, just these 3 dudes standing around and the operator, bam, all fall down. Most of them not moving very much and one of them who's never moving again.

Course to really fuck shit up, scaffolding is a sure way to get some working at heights hilarity happening because for the most part, its just unqualified dumb cunts throwing it together with spanners that really stop giving a shit after the 5th bolt gets tightened up and the rest... well its just inevitability really.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 11 05:50:09 2019 No.1590602 So is an angle grinder basically a flywheel powered frag grenade?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 11 05:51:17 2019 No.1590603 >>1588384 Distance hole puncher. works on almost everything paper,metal,niggers

Anonymous Thu Apr 11 05:56:21 2019 No.1590605

>>1590602
The really big ones with a disk on them a foot or so across are absolute monsters that have a tremendous amount of energy, literally a kilo of carbides, fibreglass and glue- roll that bitch up to 11-12000rpm and there's going to be some shit.

Smaller ones are finger fuckers and eyeball pokers, they'll also rip shit up really well too if they get tangled in loose clothing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 11 07:15:07 2019 No.1590621 >>1588807 >rust patina*

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 11 07:51:42 2019 No.1590634 >>1590470 >what is this creature? coil spring compressors

Anonymous Thu Apr 11 08:52:47 2019 No.1590669

>>1590601
>scaffolding is a sure way to get some working at heights hilarity happening because for the most part, its just unqualified dumb cunts throwing it together with spanners that really stop giving a shit after the 5th bolt gets tightened up and the rest... well its just inevitability really.
Had some accident here in australia recently, heard it on the news.
Don't know but something about not setting it up right or something.

Anonymous Thu Apr 11 09:51:34 2019 No.1590690
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Over 20 years ago as an aprentice I had to work on something pic related, except it had literally zero covers, it didn't help that I worked for a retard who kept getting injured from silly shit like cleaning wood chips with his hand from under running wood planer, or making jokes about how band-saw tape can break for no reason and start flying all over the room or cut your head off.

So, I don't hate kids for fearing tools, and if you have a problem with it, FUCK YOU.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 11 14:43:57 2019 No.1590857 >>1588778 Jej cut my thumb open with one of these. To be fair though I cut a two inch hole in my palm with a just a pencil on mutiple occasions

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>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 11 15:47:13 2019 No.1590889 >>1590384 The treatment was probably free though. Besides, you have two eyes kek

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 11 15:56:41 2019 No.1590897 >>1590207 Jackall

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 11 19:49:40 2019 No.1591028 >>1588328 >never an issue. >metal went in my eye

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 11 19:52:56 2019 No.1591034 >>1588325 I was about to use a HF one to cut down some chain link fence poles. How do I do this safely?

Anonymous Thu Apr 11 20:11:33 2019 No.1591049

>>1591034
The $10 Angle Grinder? Safely? You don't. That said, leather jacket, full face shield, safety glasses under the face shield, go slow with your cuts, don't twist in your cut line, USE THE GUARD CORRECTLY, inspect the disk every time you go to turn it on (use thicker disks since this isn't a precision job, they are less likely to break), use the grinder off to the side of your body, DO NOT stand behind it, and respect the fact you have explodium spinning at 11,000 RPM that wants nothing more than to implant itself into your face.

Don't develop Survivor's Bias when it comes to angle grinders.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 11 20:16:07 2019 No.1591056 >>1590264 >(((intellectual property)))

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 11 20:50:22 2019 No.1591079 >>1591049 ok thanks - I was doing it like safety glasses, shorts and a pair of gardening gloves. what does "use the guard correctly" mean. keep it between me and the blade I assume? I was definitely standing behind it. so I'll stop that shit too.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 11 22:03:26 2019 No.1591126 >>1591034 Reciprocating saw would be safer

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 11 22:03:47 2019 No.1591127 >>1590690 Bandsaw are only dangerous if you go backwards. Blade alwaya falls off and fucking goes in random direction

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 01:09:13 2019 No.1591202 >>1591126 yeah, but I just need to make 2 cuts, and I don't own one. I can't justify buying a new tool for that. ( probably famous last words )

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 01:27:08 2019 No.1591210 >>1590690 Fear is good, fear will keep you safe

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 04:49:34 2019 No.1591268 >>1590603 Hollowpoints make nicer holes on thin material, but they're only suitable for thin material.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 04:55:35 2019 No.1591270 >>1590470 >>1590634 Read: if that spring gets loose, it will start bouncing around the area with the kinetic energy of a rifle bullet.

Anonymous Fri Apr 12 05:23:14 2019 No.1591276
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>>1591079
>what does "use the guard correctly" mean
If the wheel explodes or throws things, they will move out from the wheel along something between a radial and a tangent path. Make sure that the guard is between you and those paths.

Besides what the other anon mentioned, I would recommend hearing protection and possibly a dust mask. A kneeling pad or kneepads will let you position yourself comfortably on hard ground, so you can concentrate on the cut rather than a stone poking your kneecap. Make a shallow precise groove along the line, then use that to help guide the disk for the through cut. Binding of the blade is the usual cause of breakage, which can come from crooked cuts and/or the metal pinching it. So set up the cut so that the pole doesn't rest its weight on the disk as you come towards the end of the cut. Position the grinder so that if it binds and kicks, it will try to move in a way that won't put you in danger. The cheapo HF one may not have the power to get away from you, but keep a firm balanced grip. I would advise against cutting with a thick disk (it will take a lot longer with more pressure, and fatigue in an awkward position is a bad thing). Just get a thin disk from a good manufacturer. Be sure to clear the area of flammable stuff, or bring a fire extinguisher along if that's not feasible. The cut edges will be sharp, and the cut pieces will be hot, so leather gloves would be a good idea. They can also reduce felt vibration from the likely-loose tolerances in the grinder.

Anonymous Fri Apr 12 10:55:59 2019 No.1591383

>>1591079
>>1591276
ideally you shouldn't be putting yourself in a position where the guard is between you and the wheel, but the principle is right.
similar thing with glasses, any kind of safety glasses would be doing pretty good to save your eye from a direct hit of an exploded blade and the rest of your face being unprotected will end very badly, glasses are important to stop little flecks of red hot metal melting and slicing your eyeball open and making you blind.
absolutely no safety GLASSES are going to be rated to a standard for impact protection at the energy for a grinding disk, you need a full face mask to get that kind of protection. i'm nt saying wear a mask i'm saying be aware glasses won't necessarily protect you from a disk so don't put yourself in a position where you rely on them to.

it's important to understand WHY ppe is important rather than just wearing it because you were told to so you can make your own judgements safely.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 15:00:47 2019 No.1591504 >>1590872 Yeah I had to use one of those in the dark a few years ago, definitely feels like rolling the dice.

Anonymous Sat Apr 13 02:48:46 2019 No.1591794
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>>1591383
>>1591276
Thanks - I'm on the fence about the thin vs thick. I'm tempted to do a thicker grinding wheel , even though I went out and bought some thin cutting ones.

Noted about the PPE.

<--- this decent? $20 at lowes

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Milwaukee Sat Apr 13 04:21:33 2019 No.1591801

>>1591794

dude dont bother with all that shit if youre that scared of a grinder buy a hacksaw because chances are youre going to hurt yourself even with literally every piece of ppe on

seriously, the amount of people fearmongering angle grinders on this board im starting to think everyones just trolling me

>full leather apron
>respirator
>knee pads (lol?)
>gloves
>steel toe boots
>coveralls
>face shield
>fire extinguisher
>hearing protection

i am at a loss for words at the level of baby-proofing some individuals need and the inability to judge for themselves what is acceptable and what isnt

ive lectured this before but ill do again because angle grinders are a soft spot and i just took one of those shits that was horribly unsatisfying so im in the perfect mood to rant

anyways ive spent a lot of hours on angle grinder, and by a lot i mean thousands, occasionally a full day if something big needs to be stripped before i fix it (kenworth box truck boxes, huge fuel tanks, etc) the truck boxes i wire wheel to bare steel, the tanks i dont but i still have to strip a motherfuck load of paint sometimes

with that being said, using a 1/4 inch thick grinding wheel to cut something because youre too afraid to use actual zipcuts has gotta be the dumbest fucking thing ive ever heard, and ive heard some fucking dumb things over the years

first off, they make a pipefitters combo wheel which is 3/16" that is meant to be both a grinding wheel and a zipcut. even these are fucking garbage to cut with, but if i had to i would. if i had a choice between cutting with a 1/4" disc or a hacksaw i would use the hacksaw, end of story

heres the thing, few on this board have ran much angle grinder. probably because theyre horrified of them. anyone that has a lot of hours on a grinder will agree with most if not all that im saying.

as for a dust mask, the only time it ever even needs to be considered is when stripping heavy paint or rust or working with galvanized

1/3

Milwaukee Sat Apr 13 04:22:37 2019 No.1591802

>>1591801

even in the scenarios mentioned above ive gone without and im am perfectly okay. in my 20 years spent with other welders ive never once seen anothee one use even a dust mask unless he was doing lots of work with galvanized. you will be fine. same goes with hearing protection. seen a few welders wearing earplugs and i wear them only when gouging because thats actually fucking loud and definitely warrants them. never met a welder with hearing loss, and i can hear the same as i always have. even had hearing tests and i was above average

if you want to be the laughing stock of your workplace go ahead and wear kneepads. i bet you'll find the jokes about getting comfortable on your knees as hilarious as they do

safety glasses are a must, the face shield is an annoying piece of unneccessary garbage. use a grinder properly and your face is not at risk

on that note ill explain how i use a grinder. ill preface this by saying i have not and will not ever injure myself with a grinder. i am 110% confident of this.

the most important thing is SHOOT THE SPARKS TOWARDS YOU for the love of god anyone who REES about grinders kicking back is an idiot using the wrong side of the wheel and shooting the sparks away from themselves. rhis makes the grinder kick towards you which is fucking mom tier grinding. sparks flying towards you = grinder can only pull away from you. only ever use a grinder with the sparks coming towards you, no exceptions

2/3

Milwaukee Sat Apr 13 04:24:35 2019 No.1591804

>>1591802

the second part of that is dont put your face in there like the pictures of people who have wheels embedded in their skulls. if the wheel explodes (stupidly fucking rare, never even personally seen it happen in thousands of hours on a grinder) its going to follow a straight line path outwards in the same plane its spinning. keep your face the fuck out of this plane. hold the grinder slightly out and with the wheel spinning paralell to your body, not perpendicular until you know what youre doing.

doing so only leaves 2 hands and arms in the danger zone, and renders the faceshield useless

often when im at home ill cut tool steel with a 13 amp dewalt slim high performance no guard no handle, barefoot in shorts and a t-shirt, no gloves, no hearing protection, no dust mask. just safety glasses thats about it. i havent and wont hurt myself because i use the fucking thing properly not like those dumb fucks in the photos. cutting with the wrong side of the wheel with their faces right up close, probably trying to cut a circle out of an anvil with a harbor freight zipcut

and to finish off my rant, if you have a couple close calls and continue to make the same mistakes then hang up the grinder and save yourself some stitches.

tl;dr angle grinder rant you sperge you lose edition

3/3

Anonymous Sat Apr 13 05:23:35 2019 No.1591821

>>1591801
>>full leather apron
Grinding sparks are hot enough to embed themselves in glass, and voluminous enough to set untreated cotton on fire and burn straight through synthetics. If you're in a position where the sparks are shooting at you for any length of time, heavy leather is the way to go.
>>respirator
Grinding dust isn't good to breathe. The scenario takes place outside, so it wouldn't ordinarily be a problem, but he may be cutting into a concrete footing depending on the specifics of the post and how low he wants to cut it. Concrete dust is particularly nasty.
>>knee pads (lol
He's cutting down a chain link fence post, so he'll probably be kneeling to do the cut. Knee protection makes the job more comfortable, and therefore less distracting for someone new to using an angle grinder.
>>gloves
Hot sparks, sharp, hot steel, and vibration. Wearing cloves for cutting with an angle grinder is a good idea.
>>steel toe boots
You're the only person in this thread who mentioned boots of any kind, anon.
>>coveralls
Sparks flying around, kneeling on the ground. It will be a dirty job, and coveralls reduce dirt and wear/tear on you and regular clothes.
>>face shield
It's the first cut by someone with an angle grinder, in an awkward position, on a steel post that will be prone to pinching the cutting disk. A face shield is a good idea (with tight-fitting glasses or goggles underneath it to block dust).
>>fire extinguisher
He wants to cut a chain link fence post. There may be dry plants or debris around the area where there will be sprays of hot sparks. Depending on the specifics, it may be appropriate to clear the area or to keep a fire extinguisher nearby.
>>hearing protection
Angle grinders are loud. Ear plugs are cheap. Hearing loss is bad.

>>1591802
>namefag bases safety practices on what he expects others will think about him

>>1591804
>shorts and a t-shirt
I have that grinder myself, and the spark stream will burn through that if you're aiming it at yourself.

Anonymous Sat Apr 13 05:43:06 2019 No.1591828

>>1591794
>this decent?
Should be. Look for a Z87+ mark to indicate that it meets impact resistance standards.

>I'm tempted to do a thicker grinding wheel
If you want to cut with something a bit thicker, look for a 1/8" wheel. They don't cut as well as a thin wheel, but they're made for side-loading, and are a lot tougher. And while Milwaukee is full of shit, he's right that cutting with a 1/4" wheel doesn't go very well. If you can't find a 1/8" wheel, just use the thin wheels.

Milwaukee Sat Apr 13 06:37:12 2019 No.1591838

>>1591821

>Grinding sparks are hot enough to embed themselves in glass....

i said towards not literally aim the sparks so theyre going right down your shirt, i usually throw them by my right side, not stand infront of them as that would put me in the projectile path if (though unlikely) a wheel explodes. i swear you angle grinder fear mongs lack reading comprehension

>Grinding dust isn't good to breathe. The scenario takes place outside.....

hes cutting a fucking fence post and youre worried about concrete dust?

>He's cutting down a chain link fence post, so he'll probably be kneeling to do the cut. Knee protection makes the job more comfortable....

holy shit youre a fucking faggot i cant even handle you right now. im glad people like you spend their lives in an office and i dont have to listen to your childish concerns on an actual jobsite

>Hot sparks, sharp, hot steel, and vibration....

theres a time and a place for gloves and he can judge for himself if he wants to wear them or not

>You're the only person in this thread who mentioned boots of any kind, anon.

ill give you that one

>He wants to cut a chain link fence post. There may be dry plants or debris

and that one

>It's the first cut by someone with an angle grinder....

if you didnt have the reading comprehension of an aborted fetus you too could learn to use an angle grinder properly

>Angle grinders are loud. Ear plugs are cheap. Hearing loss is bad.

im willing to bet theres louder things than angle grinders that you dont wear ear plugs for

>namefag bases safety practices on what he expects others will think about him

wrong again, stop projecting. i dont go to work to look good if the ppe is justified i wear it. i base my safety practices on actual real world experience not the safety section in the grinders manual like you. wearing all that shit is just going to make him fumble all over the place

>I have that grinder myself....

TOWARDS you stupid nigger holy fucking shit

Milwaukee Sat Apr 13 06:54:00 2019 No.1591841

>>1591828

>And while Milwaukee is full of shit, he's right

>full of shit
>right

pick one, or do you need someone else to decide for you

>mr safety is #1 ready to cut his fence post
>throws on his 1/4" disc
>takes him 3 minutes to get the nut on because gloves
>finally starts cutting
>grinder pulls and he panics
>trips on his knee pad
>recovers
>cant press grinder trigger because gloves too big
>sweating profusely because respirator
>faceshields all fogged up
>cuts into concrete because he cant see
>FUCKFUUCKFUCK.jpg
>exits cut to run back inside while dust clears
>knocks over fire extinguisher
>only 1/2 inch into the fencepost because 1/4 inch wheel
>comes back outside to start cutting again
>its going well
>fencepost starts pinching the disk
>doesnt have the common sense to lean on the fencepost so it spreads the cut apart
>1/4" wheel keeps binding
>big gash in his kneepad from using the wrong side of the wheel and having the grinder kick back
>just about through
>gonna keep grinding instead of just pulling the post over because retard.un.edu
>grinder kicks back again and he cant figure out why
>"man these things are dangerous"
>not that he can see anything anyways

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 09:43:47 2019 No.1591915 >>1591841 >pick one, or do you need someone else to decide for you You made one obvious point in a sea of bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 10:06:59 2019 No.1591929 >>1591841 >>full of shit >>right I mean, thanks for demonstrating again, though I think it was clear from the previous responses..

Anonymous Sat Apr 13 10:35:41 2019 No.1591951

>>1591838
>i said towards not literally aim the sparks so theyre going right down your shirt
>toward |tôrdt(ə)ˈwôrd|
>preposition(also towards |tôrdz, t(ə)ˈwôrdz| )
>1 in the direction of: I walked toward the front door.
If you're holding an angle grinder and aiming the sparks towards yourself, they're going to hit you. The word you're looking for is "beside". Like in the pic here >>1591276, you aim the sparks beside yourself so that they don't hit you or anything else that would be damaged.

>hes cutting a fucking fence post and youre worried about concrete dust
He didn't post a pic. It may be embedded in a concrete footing, and if he wants to cut it flush with the ground, there will be concrete dust. How much of a concern that would be depends on the unknown specifics of the situation, like how windy that area is.

>your childish concerns on an actual jobsite
I often have to use a grinder while kneeling on concrete or gravel, and a foam mat makes things much nicer than they would otherwise be. Worth it even if just for not having to replace pants every week.

>im willing to bet theres louder things than angle grinders that you dont wear ear plugs for
An angle grinder runs around 110 decibels, If you're exposed to more than half an hour of that per day, OSHA requires hearing protection. I clap my hands occasionally, and that can get to around 130 dB, but that's not continuous, and so does not pose a significant risk of hearing loss. An angle grinder is well above the threshold of continuous noise where I wear hearing protection.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 16:00:00 2019 No.1592211 >>1591951 Fuck off retard, you've shown to know absolutely nothing about angle grinders

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 16:51:50 2019 No.1592250 >>1592211 You forgot your trip faggot

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>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 17:02:24 2019 No.1592259 File: 53 KB, 710x766, hand-3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1590466 Only a madman...

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 20:22:12 2019 No.1592407 >>1590069 Wear a chastity cage

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 20:34:43 2019 No.1592416 >>1591801 You are retarded if you don't think you need hearing protection

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 20:48:07 2019 No.1592422 >>1590054 Springs in general scare the shit out of me. Their entire job is to store kinetic energy and release it, so looking at a compressed spring is like staring down the barrel of a gun.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 21:01:57 2019 No.1592432 >>1590059 I worked for a garage door company one summer. Winding huge commercial door springs up on an extension ladder was not fun.

Anonymous Sat Apr 13 21:02:04 2019 No.1592433

>>1590355
From their site:
>SawStop saws cut most wet wood without a problem. However, if the wood is very green or wet (for example, wet enough to spray a mist when cutting), or if the wood is both wet and pressure treated, then the wood may be sufficiently conductive to trigger the brake. Accordingly, the best practice is to dry wet or green wood before cutting by standing it inside and apart from other wood for about one day. You can also cut wet pressure treated wood and other conductive material by placing the saw in bypass mode to deactivate the safety system.
That's just too rich "you must by our safety saw that the safety can be turned off on"
Also Kick back is the primary danger. The saw stop doesn't really address the primary danger of kick back. It may have a guard and it may even have a riving knife, I am not sure, but the real problem is a traditional saw often makes you stand in the worst possible area depending on what you are doing. Many injuries occur due to the flying workpiece from kick back and many of the injuries due to the blade are a result of kick back.
A sliding table equipped table saw addresses the root of the problem.
I'm really opposed to the idea of a specific patented item being required by regulatory fiat. If the rentseeking faggots at StopSaw are so concerned with woodworkers' welfare, let them surrender their patent rights and compete in an open market.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 21:09:04 2019 No.1592440 >>1592416 What?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 21:15:29 2019 No.1592447 >>1592433 >destroying an expensive carbide blade and having to replace an 100$ cartridge every time it false fires on a piece of wood thats slightly wet oof

Anonymous Sat Apr 13 21:23:36 2019 No.1592453

>>1591821
>and burn straight through synthetics
It's good practice to just never wear synthetics anywhere that has any hazards. I've been unfortunate enough to witness a few burns where people have worn synthetics and it's just horrendous all the way through from accident to as full as you can get recovery. Stuff will melt and stick to your skin, something that would otherwise be quite minor can result in skin grafts and what not.

>>1591838
>and i dont have to listen to your childish concerns on an actual jobsite
That's because you wouldn't be allowed near anything like an actual jobsite, fuck off you LARPing faggot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 21:29:28 2019 No.1592456 >>1588807 You call that a lathe etc etc.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 01:32:22 2019 No.1592544 >>1590466 I nick a knuckle like 1/4 of the time when I try to make hash browns. Fuck graters.

Anonymous Sun Apr 14 01:42:18 2019 No.1592548

>>1591801
>>1591802
>>1591804
tl;dr
>>1592407
Sorry, I'm not western europeyan.

>>1591951
>I often have to use a grinder while kneeling on concrete or gravel, and a foam mat makes things much nicer than they would otherwise be. Worth it even if just for not having to replace pants every week.
I actually do that too, all the time. Thinking of getting them 'combat pants' cause they have built-in knee pads I hears are pretty comfy, regular knee-pads are a bother, they keep slipping down etc.

>An angle grinder runs around 110 decibels, If you're exposed to more than half an hour of that per day
Soldiers usd active hearing protection that blocks high dec. sounds and magnifies quiet sounds, I wonder if that would work on a construction site.
I'm an oldfag myself and I don't give a fuck if some dumb cunts think it's "childish". Hospitals are full of those retards
>t.doctors in the family

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 01:55:45 2019 No.1592552 >>1588325 >>1588327 I own both of these and they have both tried to hurt me.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 01:59:58 2019 No.1592553 >>1588384 It is used to keep russians from pointing the wrong direction. Its like a go/no go gauge.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 02:03:00 2019 No.1592555 >>1592548 >I wonder if that would work on a construction site It would, and there are products available. It's just not usually worth the expense when there isn't much need to hear quiet sounds.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 02:03:11 2019 No.1592556 >>1588807 Is that Mare Island?

Milwaukee Sun Apr 14 05:05:17 2019 No.1592598
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>>1592453

guy i was born in a welding shop, you any everyone else who disagrees with me are absolute morons that have pulled the trigger on a grinder once, got scared, maybe made a cut or two, and then hung it up and came on 4chan to spread your fear and seek reassurance that other people are scared too and youre not a humongous nancy faggot.

spoiler alert: anyone that has to wear that much PPE to cut down a fence post is a righteous fucking flamboyant queer. stick to knitting or something

>>1591951

as far as hearing protection, i guess me and literally every welder i know have kevlar because not one of us have had hearing problems

keep trying to justify your fear though you fucking nancy

>If you're exposed to more than half an hour of that per day, OSHA requires hearing protection.

OSHA is a joke and as far as im concerned they can lick my bag. the fact that you actually view them as gospel and not a group of idiots that have never spent a day in a real profession shows your ignorance on this subject matter.

if you need fucking knee pads and a mat to use an angle grinder on gravel man you wouldnt last a day doing my job. i spent a week crawling around underneath an asphalt grinder refitting the entire drum. 138 teeth. they're inch and a half plate, weigh about 50 pounds each, a foot long. so 2 feet of weld to gouge off, then 2 feet of weld to put em back on. even through double hearing protection air gouging is still louder than an angle grinder without ear plugs. i probably ran more angle grinder on that one job than you will in your entire life

>That's because you wouldn't be allowed near anything like an actual jobsite, fuck off you LARPing faggot.

youre right i work in a welding/mechanic shop (pic related) because field work is for cotton picking niggers like you

>>1592211

glad to see at least one other person on /diy/ has the mental capacity to see through the bullshit of these dipshits

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Milwaukee Sun Apr 14 05:32:45 2019 No.1592611

>>1591951

>Worth it even if just for not having to replace pants every week.

faggot confirmed. if kneeling on some concrete is all it takes for you to consider your pants garbage, then i need no more convincing that you are talking out your ass. i have work clothes literally full of holes and i still wear them even my good clothes have holes. do i give a fuck? fuck no because im not a cityboy like you

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 08:03:19 2019 No.1592642 >>1588384 Russian roulette

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 08:14:21 2019 No.1592645 >>1590595 Reminds me of that time 18 years ago when my toddler sister decided it would be a great idea to run her palm along a cheese grater

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 12:12:03 2019 No.1592734 File: 3.89 MB, 450x253, today i saw some.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1590690 all tools should be feared. only the brave and stupid can wield them, only one will wield them forever.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 12:33:28 2019 No.1592745 >>1592598 Fuck off samefagging cumguzzler

Anonymous Sun Apr 14 13:19:43 2019 No.1592755
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>come into this thread
>see tripfag shitting it up trying to convince others PPE is unnecessary and that he alone is the authority on a basic power tool
>appeal to authority argument because "i was born in a welding shop!" as if it holds any weight

I get it the first time, I maybe can get it a second time. But this is like the 4th or 5th thread he has repeated the same garbage ad nauseam.

Its almost as if he isnt trying to convince other anons of his horse hockey, maybe he is trying to convince himself? I mean he has never gotten any other anons to agree with him afterall.
How sad.

Anonymous Sun Apr 14 14:43:29 2019 No.1592801

>>1592548
Depends. The electronic ones in my experience don't work if you have a high amount of white noise. I work in a machine shop so there is constant humming, air escaping, etc. It magnifies all of those sounds as well so you might as well just turn it off and use it as normal earmuffs. The passive earplug ones seem to do ok in this situation. But if you were out in the woods or something shooting, they still suppress the quiet sounds a bit unlike the electronic muffs.

>>1592598
Their rules are not perfect, but they are designed to keep you in good shape when you are old. A lot of the hearing damage for example takes a long time to show up, and unless you get regular tests, they wouldn't necessary be able to tell if damage is happening (so they can look at a long term trend in your hearing) until it is fairly obvious.

Anonymous Sun Apr 14 15:15:54 2019 No.1592824
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>>1592598
>>1592548
>>1591951
always wear earpro

here have a old German OSHA video its old but sad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aee0syEiwRs
first you hear how a young person hears and then how the same sample sound for a poor old guy that has 20% workforce loss (not much)
>tfw 6:10 everyone enjoying their beer and talking to each other and you cant understand them

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 16:13:26 2019 No.1592868 File: 38 KB, 426x341, 1398658602085.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1590581

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 16:56:49 2019 No.1592925 >>1592611 Low quality b8m8 don’t even r8 2/8

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 16:58:15 2019 No.1592928 File: 275 KB, 1882x1899, spin_prod_747803112.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 17:06:39 2019 No.1592946 >>1592928 >being afraid of a bench grinder but why

Anonymous Sun Apr 14 17:07:07 2019 No.1592947

>>1591821
I took your advice on the knee pads which was really helpful. It let me be more comfortable and take my time.

I was cutting vertically with the fence post on its side. I had a hard time understanding the best way to hold the grinder so what I did felt really awkward but I kept my body and face out of the direct line / tangent I’d expect shattered disc to spin.

Was definitely surprised about how sparks fly towards you. I thought I was doing something wrong. Was wearing shorts against advice.

It was hard to cut perpendicular to the pipe, keep myself out of the way and also see what the f I was doing. I’ll watch some yt videos.

Overall went really well and just need to trim up some links and the kindergarten will have a working fence gate again!

To the angry dude from Milwaukee - I thought I had your brand of tools but went back out and they were all Hilto brand ( also red which confused me ) because you were so rude I didn’t want to be associate with your products. As you can tell I’m a “weekend warrior” and I buy stuff cheap from locate estate sales - but if I do ever buy full price it won’t be your product! I also forwarded this forum to your corporate office.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 17:08:47 2019 No.1592949 >>1592946 my dads fell over when it was on and almost kill him, shot across the room

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 17:26:03 2019 No.1592966 >>1592949 Sounds like the bench grinders fault

Anonymous Sun Apr 14 18:23:52 2019 No.1593007

>>1592947
>I was cutting vertically with the fence post on its side. I had a hard time understanding the best way to hold the grinder so what I did felt really awkward
If your grinder is similar to the one in OP, and you're cutting something on the ground, hold the body of the grinder in your left hand and the handle (positioned on the grinder as in that pic) in your right. You can also grab the gear housing instead of the handle, which gives more control but less stability in the case of a bind. Use the handle until you're familiar with how the grinder behaves. The top of the grinder will be facing you, and sparks will be shooting to your left. Position the guard at an angle similar to the one in the pic, and position yourself so that you can see where the disk meets the metal to be cut. If you have a vise, it's usually better to cut standing up with the work secured in the vise at an easily accessible height. Hold the grinder as described above, but with the handle side facing you and the sparks shooting down in front of you. Position yourself so that you can see along the open side of the guard to where the disk meets the metal to be cut. When cutting a pipe, you can spin it in the vise as needed to maintain this posture, or you can move yourself around the pipe, shifting position to maintain visibility and control as needed.

As for marking pipe for a right angle cut, first mark it at the length you want, then use a sheet of paper, a metal flat tape, or something else flat and flexible but dimensionally stable to wrap around the pipe at the mark and guide a straight line that marks the whole cut (at work I use a product called Wrap-A-Round, at home I use manila folders cut to convenient sizes). I would recommend using a black Sharpie, or something similar. The ink stands up to heat better than most alternatives, so it will be visible closer to the disk as you cut. Though this is less of a concern if you make a shallow guide cut before cutting through.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 19:03:43 2019 No.1593025 >>1592947 Why didnt you use a reciprocating saw?

Anonymous Sun Apr 14 20:03:28 2019 No.1593071

>>1592946
The "soft" wheels on grinders/buffers are potentially hazardous. I mean like, wire wheels, buffing wheels, anything that is not a hard wheel. If you are not careful when rotating/moving your work, or foolhardily pressing hard into the wheel, it will yank the work out of your hands and fling it to god knows where at 100 miles per hour.

>>1592949
I guess that's why they tell you to bolt them down, lol. I've never heard of it happening until now but it is kind of a hilarious image to me.

>>	Prez/o/ Sun Apr 14 20:08:13 2019 No.1593074 itt: pussies

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 20:15:19 2019 No.1593077 >>1593074 Sticks and stones may break my bones (including broken angle grinder discs), and words from boomers will never hurt me.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 20:52:46 2019 No.1593100 >>1589305 Aka unsafe.

Anonymous Sun Apr 14 20:59:28 2019 No.1593109

>>1590069

Men's leather chaps, safety glasses, and a jock strap are best. You don't need a respirator if you have a thick bushy mustache. Some guys wax their back and chest hair, but I don't bother.

That and basic common sense will make you a bangin' tool user.

Be safe out there.

Anonymous Sun Apr 14 21:01:46 2019 No.1593112

>>1590669
Yep that was literally walking distance from where I used to live and work, very sad that it was a really young fella that died.
Working at heights is one of those things people seem to get very complacent with and something which is usually a preventable accident in nearly all circumstances. I mean really, short of being hit by lightning or a plane crashing on you out of a blue sky, there's really no reason for anyone to get killed on the job.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 21:06:31 2019 No.1593119 >>1590187 Fuck I forgot rigging. You want scary? Forget amateurs using a lathe. Try amateurs trying to MOVE a lathe, or even better, something heavy and tippy like a milling machine.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 21:12:47 2019 No.1593121 File: 1.58 MB, 600x360, changs forklift.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1593119 Ah, just get a forklift bro, whats the worst that can happen?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 21:18:15 2019 No.1593123 >>1590366 >Obviously not, when you are patent trolling And there's no patent trolling more diabolical than building a superior product and winning over customers in the marketplace. Absolutely deplorable.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 22:15:48 2019 No.1593140 File: 12 KB, 259x194, images.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >pic related

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 14 22:38:42 2019 No.1593153 >>1593123 >building a superior product and winning over customers in the marketplace Exactly what the Bosch Reaxx did

Anonymous Mon Apr 15 00:36:18 2019 No.1593195
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>>1592801
Thanks anon, good to know.

>>1593077
I'm a boomer and fuck that guy, he's retarded.
I worked with guys in their 50's & 60's and a lot of them don't even put glasses on when cutting pipes with grinders.
>me: holy shit anon, I can see sparks bouncing of your face!
>hehe yeah I can feel it
>holy shit anon, you're not even wearing glasses
>but I am, son (he was wearing his medical, prescription glasses)
>holy shit anon, you'll get some steel shards in your eye
>hehehe yea I was in a hospital once, they had to take out a piece this one time
I shit you not those are actuall quotes.
One old guy recently started using face mask when drilling holes in ceeling (all that shit rains on your head, you know what I mean).
>holy shit anon, is my bitching about minimal safety influencing you?
>he he, no, I had something fall in my eye yesterday
Turned out a piece of concrete fell into his eye 2 days ago and he wouldn't tell anyone, didn't even go to a doc untill the next day, where they literally used tweszers to take it out. He quit the job 2 days later, causse couldn't work.

>>1592598
You sound very upset. You should relax. Or get those drugs on your erectile disfunction, you fat fuck.

>>1593109
>Leather chaps
Hmmm... :P

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 15 01:36:29 2019 No.1593211 >>1590229 why do you hate america so much?

Anonymous Mon Apr 15 01:55:26 2019 No.1593217
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<- pic related my goofy little fence. thanks everyone for the help.

>>1591828
thanks i did go with the thinner wheels because i saw this post just now, but il remember that fro next time.

>>1593007

thanks this is basically what i did today. everyone says spwarks down, but if i cut using the top of the wheel they shoot away from me, if i use the bottom they shoot twoards me ( beside) . is the problem the kick back - in both these cases wont it just pull it out of my hands in stead of sending it back into me?

>>1593025
don't own one didnt think it was worth it for 2-3 cuts.

>>1593119
when i was 12 or so i had to help my uncle and 12 year old cousin move a bunch of shit out of his garage. it included a fucking forge and I have no idea how heavy it was, but it terrified me. it was on a engine lift or something and we were wheeling it around, trying to get it up over bumps and shit, it fell more than once, and I can't believe my piece of shit uncle risked my life for his stupid fucking forge.

>amusingly enough i DID get hurt today and my wrist is all wrapped up. I guess all the fence work caused my wrist RSI problem to go from mangable to "well fuck i cant squeeze my hand" so forgive the typing. wearing a wrist brace.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 15 02:49:12 2019 No.1593231 >>1590366 Except you don't seem to understand what a patent troll is.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 15 03:07:53 2019 No.1593239 >>1593121 Why the FUCK would you hit the gas.

Milwaukee Mon Apr 15 03:31:45 2019 No.1593245

i would like to take the time to apologize for all the shit talking and name calling. this topic is a real soft spot but i know its no excuse.

why a bunch of anonymous /diy/ers overloading on ppe to use a grinder triggers me so hard ill never know

regardless, i still stand by the facts i stated

>>1592755

this is the third time nigger

>>1593195

show me where i say its acceptable not to wear safety glasses while using an angle grinder

>>1593217

>thanks this is basically what i did today. everyone says spwarks down, but if i cut using the top of the wheel they shoot away from me, if i use the bottom they shoot twoards me ( beside) . is the problem the kick back - in both these cases wont it just pull it out of my hands in stead of sending it back into me?

using the top of the grinder is dicey at best. although its unavoidable in some cases.

a lot of it is the edges of the cut tend to grab the wheel a bit and make it want to walk the grinder in the direction of rotation, following the circle. if this happens when using the top of the wheel it can pull in a kind of circular motion to where if it does kick it will be towards you. a lot less room for error, and it happens quick

using the bottom of the wheel it will only pull to where it will kick away from you before you can get ahold of it

ideally if looking at the grinder top down you want to use the right side of the wheel, not the left

Anonymous Mon Apr 15 03:54:03 2019 No.1593255

>>1593217
>is the problem the kick back - in both these cases wont it just pull it out of my hands in stead of sending it back into me?
Even with a big grinder, the problem is not so much that it pulls out of your hands and takes off as that it suddenly tries to move in some direction with more force than you're braced for and uses your arms as a pivot. Using the top of the wheel in that situation brings a couple factors that increase the risk in the case of a bind. If you're familiar with how a grinder behaves and keep your wits about you, it's not much of a concern, but the risk mitigation techniques may not be intuitive to a novice, which is why I outlined that particular technique. When you're using the wheel so that the sparks shoot directly away from you, it means that the wheel is moving directly away from you at the point of contact. If it binds, that means the grinder will try to move directly towards you. If you don't stop it in time, this can result in the grinder bonking you, after which the still-spinning disk may get caught on clothes and cause further problems. If you're aiming the sparks down, a bind will cause the grinder to try to move up, which should be a relatively safe direction. Also, due to the mechanics of the situation, aiming the sparks down in a vertical cut means that due to the position of your arms, cutting pressure will tend to make the grinder try to climb up out of the material rather than digging deeper, which is enough of a negative feedback that cutting tends to go smoothly without as much active management. If you're shooting the sparks away, the mechanics of the situation make it more likely that a positive feedback situation will develop where excessive pressure causes the disk to bind a bit, which causes the grinder to push against your arms in a way that increases feed pressure, further increasing binding. If not countered, this can quickly cause the disk to lodge in the material and cause the grinder to jump towards you

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 15 04:00:57 2019 No.1593259 >>1593119 Then you have bird brains staying near it thinking they could stop it from falling if it's start tipping

Anonymous Mon Apr 15 05:35:28 2019 No.1593285

>>1593245
>. this topic is a real soft spot but i know its no excuse.why a bunch of anonymous /diy/ers overloading on ppe to use a grinder triggers me so hard ill never know

It's because you are retarded as fuck, and your hubris will bite you hard one day.

Anonymous Mon Apr 15 05:42:03 2019 No.1593288

>>1593245
>i would like to take the time to apologize for all the shit talking and name calling. this topic is a real soft spot but i know its no excuse.
Holy shit anon, this is 4chan, we don't comment like that in here, we call each other names and stuff, don't put us in awkward position. :P

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 15 06:08:35 2019 No.1593292 >>1588807 Had an accident with a lathe before. Luckily it had a turn-off automatic in it that activayed when the guard moved. Couple scrapes but nothing worse. Dont be retarded is my tip

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 15 06:21:50 2019 No.1593298 >>1588325 None, as long as you use proper PPE and aren't a total retard.

Anonymous Mon Apr 15 12:00:25 2019 No.1593460

>>1593245
new anon to this thread.
>this is the third time nigger
You've posted in 2 /wg/ threads and at least once in each of the three PPE/dangerous tools threads that I've seen recently.
Each time about how pretty much any PPE is overrated and pointless.

IIRC I saw you being a faggot on /wg/ and other welding threads a few months ago too.

If you don't want people to dislike you immediately when you post either:

A.) stop acting like a flaming retard and needing to comment books on every PPE or welding related post.
or
B.) Stop namefagging so hard.

If you'd stop acting like you invented welding and grinding yourself at the early age of 2 by snapping you fingers in the 1800's people might actually believe your LARPing and calm their tits.

It's obvious you're just here for attention, but you got assmad that people don't treat you as the supposed "expert" you claim to be.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 15 12:03:37 2019 No.1593462 >>1588807 >today's work order >move tail stock to end of travel to clean bed Phew boss, can I work OT on this to get it done? It hasnt been moved in 12 years, the old guy that retired never trained me on moving the tail stock.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 15 12:12:07 2019 No.1593468 >>1593245 So yet another attention whore who has to have a name and a reputation has turned out to have mental issues.

Anonymous Mon Apr 15 12:19:26 2019 No.1593476

>>1593245
also the new anon:
>show me where i say its acceptable not to wear safety glasses while using an angle grinder
He didn't?

This post literally replies to like 4 people.
If you weren't so concerned with your "reputation" on 4chan, you might figure out that not every conversation is about you.

>inb4 lol nice job samefag
You pull this every time you realize people don't like you, only once has it been remotely believe-able.

Anonymous Mon Apr 15 15:41:43 2019 No.1593596

>>1591802
>>1591801
>>1591804
Mechanic here, independent shop. I use a welder and grinder quite often as I find myself fabricating things quite often from exhaust to a roll bar for a friend.

I agree with most of what you say, I'd point out you left out a quick inspection of the wheel. Mine have broken by being slammed around my toolbox, tiny chips and such.

That said, I've also still used them even though they were chipped in situations where I could stand in very safe places, around a corner for example. I've also never seen one break despite my lack of responsibility in this area, don't be like me I'm stupid with that.

I know a few welders as well, they've never felt a need to step in and tell me I'm being stupid so I'm assuming they're also not nearly as afraid of these tools as everyone on this board seems to be.

Youre rant about knee pads however? Well, the older I get the more I do put a pad down to kneel on. I recommend everyone starts young with that because I wish I did. Not so much a safety issue as it is health however. Knees smacking on concrete 3 hours a day for 30 years isn't good.

I also grind in all directions, shoot me. Kickbacks are controllable imo, long as I expect the possibility which I do. Never even skinned myself as I've seen others do. However, I'll chalk this up under don't be like me, I'm stupid, pretty much your post is all I'd tell me son to do when he's using one though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 15 16:16:18 2019 No.1593632 >>1593460 wasting your breath. anon with a trip is like a mule with a spinning wheel

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 16 00:28:01 2019 No.1593885 >>1592598 >he's proud that he is destroying his body working a shitty job for $30/hr There aren't many 55 year old welders my guy. Keep kneeling on gravel, breathing fiberglass dust, and deafening yourself for all I care.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 16 00:40:04 2019 No.1593892 >>1593885 Most welders are in there 50s

Milwaukee Tue Apr 16 04:20:10 2019 No.1593940

>>1593285

>It's because you are retarded as fuck

youre not wrong

>>1593460

two things;

first, i could not give less of a fuck about my reputation on /diy/, thats not the purpose of the name

second, 90% of my posts are real genuine helpful advice, the other 10% is just fucking around shit talking. try not taking me so serious, im not here to be an authority on anything. its just my source of things to do/research before i fall asleep at night. if i help a few people in the process well right on. if i make some people not like me big deal, im just riding the wave my friend

>but you got assmad that people don't treat you as the supposed "expert" you claim to be.

thats exactly why im here. i love the general hostility between everyone. real forums are full of carebears that get offended and hurt feelings at the drop of a hat.

>Each time about how pretty much any PPE is overrated and pointless.

this disturbingly wrong, let me spell it out for you again. i recommend (same as always) all these things pretty regularly;

-steel toe boots
-safety glasses (no exceptions)
-fall arrest if at height
-gloves are sometimes required
-hearing protection (even double) when doing actually loud things
-coveralls

>This post literally replies to like 4 people

oh my bad i thought the post he linked to linked to one of my posts not prezlol

>You pull this every time you realize people don't like you, only once has it been remotely believe-able.

dude look at the post count and tell me it hasnt been literally me vs one maybe two other people

why else would you specify "new anon to the thread" give me a fucking break i might have been born at night but it wasnt last night

>>1593596

>Kickbacks are controllable imo

absolutely they are but i still dont grind on the other side of the wheel unless i know it wont kick. if its in aluminum or something i wont even risk it aluminum is gay as fuck with a grinder

>>	Milwaukee Tue Apr 16 04:22:31 2019 No.1593941 >>1593885 im not nearly that old fortunately, but my father is in his late 60s and grandfather is in his 90s and theyre both still going. we all share the same trades thats it for me with this one, cya next bait thread assholes

Anonymous Tue Apr 16 04:29:34 2019 No.1593943

>>1593940
>dude look at the post count and tell me it hasnt been literally me vs one maybe two other people

Heh called it.

Also like you said in one of the /wg/ threads. Poster count means practically nothing.

Post times is where it's at.
It's quite obvious that there are like 4 different anons (including me) yelling at you for being a faggot.

Milwaukee Tue Apr 16 05:26:35 2019 No.1593954

>>1593943

>Heh called it.

i wouldnt even have brought it up if you didnt, lol

>Poster count means practically nothing

wasnt it you who said that, i remember reading it i dont think i said it but i can definitely be wrong

>It's quite obvious

its not really that obvious as all your names are anonymous and you all type basically the same

except maybe one of you

anyway long story short i dont actually give a shit about any of this and our retarded back and forth arguing at each other is kind of the gay, im over it

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 16 08:22:51 2019 No.1594020 >>1593288 Yeah I appreciate the apology. That said, if you're reading trip posts, what dId you expect? >>1593259 Yeah exactly. Shit falls in slow motion, and people think, "omg, I can handle this". It's reflex.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 16 09:52:20 2019 No.1594047 >>1593954 >>1593940 I've never seen you say anything of value or insightful. You just seem to be a delusional faggot. I have at time confused with the princess seven dust troll on vr. She pretends to be a tranny

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 16 10:52:31 2019 No.1594065 >>1593954 >wasnt it you I didn't post in that thread lol.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 16 16:32:52 2019 No.1594200 >>1592598 I bet you look like shit and have a small dick.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 16 16:45:23 2019 No.1594209 File: 648 KB, 2016x1512, IMG_20190401_142259.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1593119 >or even better, something heavy and tippy like a milling machine. YA'LL WANT SKETCHY?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 16 16:56:38 2019 No.1594217 >>1594209 Dahnald...!

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 16 18:15:43 2019 No.1594254 File: 1.13 MB, 1512x2016, IMG_20190401_151208.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1594217 I absolutely plan on putting an orange toupee on it, yes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 16 18:34:23 2019 No.1594268 >>1594209 Two bridgeports dude? Also, why would you extend the central beam like this? Why would you not go to Home Depot or something and get a couple of 4x6's to stack on top of each other for the central span instead?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 16 18:38:44 2019 No.1594275 >>1594268 >a couple of 4x6's don't forget the plywood between the faces of the 2x6's

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 16 18:47:40 2019 No.1594285 >>1590466 You just triggered my PTSD flashbacks

Anonymous Tue Apr 16 18:55:27 2019 No.1594293

>>1592598
>guy i was born in a welding shop
In other words you grandfathered in your credentials and haven't worked outside your family's bidness in the real world. For hoi polloi amongst us, if you don't follow health and safety you don't get to work. It isn't worth a business getting sued or bad press or whatever other bad karma comes from injuring your workforce, which happens in big boy businesses.

Most people who say they work on job sites are talking about places that will not let you anywhere near the work if you are not properly kitted out.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 16 19:09:26 2019 No.1594308 >>1590690 >band-saw tape

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 16 19:13:31 2019 No.1594313 >>1591821 wearing gloves near a high speed rotary blade is a bad idea

Anonymous Tue Apr 16 22:36:39 2019 No.1594442
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Any hydraulic cylinder. We drag these shits to the job, lay on the foot pedal, and hope nothing flies out.

Our company uses enerpac and the "rams" we use range from 5 ton to 567 ton.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 16 22:42:29 2019 No.1594448 >>1590059 Done with two screwdrivers while standing on a milk crate with a board on top

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 16 22:43:14 2019 No.1594449 >>1594285 Flashbacks to that one furfag pic?

>>	Bepr. Tue Apr 16 22:45:21 2019 No.1594450 >>1594448 Did this recently too, then a spring broke because the last idiot installed them incorrectly. There were 3 springs and two were pulling up while the third was pulling down.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 16 23:07:23 2019 No.1594458 >>1594442 >lay on the foot pedal, and hope nothing flies out. Similarly, the Russians do the same thing with the Type 65 "Kit" training torpedo when its internal temps gets to 130 Celsius.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 16 23:11:56 2019 No.1594461 >>1589772 long hair, live dangerously

Anonymous Tue Apr 16 23:17:14 2019 No.1594463

>>1594268
>Two bridgeports dude?

First one had a face mill that seems to have friction-welded itself into the spindle after it got spun doing...something. Given the machine only ever seems to cut aluminum and the condition of the inserts, it looks like someone crashed it, hard, into a fixture. Don't know how the fuck you do that with a manual machine, but okay, I guess. The shop I got it from couldn't even press it out, and they're pretty well-equipped. I got it for less than scrap value and decided that I wasn't going to bother fixing it if I could get the new one for $2000 or less (it had quite a bit missing from it, as it turns out). I ended up getting the Atrump for exactly that, so I took the most useful parts out of the old one and scrapped the rest.

>Why would you not go to Home Depot or something and get a couple of 4x6's to stack on top of each other for the central span instead?

Because the thing was originally made to just have the one 8' beam, but that wasn't enough to span the trailer. My screwup was drilling the holes offset on the wrong side of the beam (should be toward the bottom, not the top). Or not using a longer bit of steel. Or not just making the thing from a 4x10/5x10 sheet of ply to begin with, take your pick.

In any event, yeah, no, that whole operation was me just going "this is so stupid, this is so fucking stupid" right up until it was safely on the ground.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 16 23:33:25 2019 No.1594471 >>1594449 >only one oh you sweet summer child...

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 17 00:04:42 2019 No.1594488 >>1594471 The cheese grader up the pooper is the one that always got spammed.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 17 00:45:04 2019 No.1594498 >>1590581 No joke, have an aunt that almost died from this

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 17 01:45:25 2019 No.1594508 >>1594498 Did it break or something?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 17 04:36:14 2019 No.1594537 >>1594508 I don't know the details that much, just been told to stay the hell away from these

Milwaukee Wed Apr 17 04:39:41 2019 No.1594538 [DELETED]

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>>1594293

>In other words you grandfathered in your credentials and haven't worked outside your family's bidness in the real world.

my family doesnt own a business, we're all just nigger employees, and i dont work with any of them. what i actually meant was my old man took me and my autistic brother to the equipment repair shop he worked at pretty well as soon as i could walk

would be nice though then maybe i could afford nice things

>For hoi polloi amongst us, if you don't follow health and safety you don't get to work

i am familiar, i used to do a lot of work in the gas industry (nexen, chevron, encana, shell, imperial, apache, etc) for a big name equipment distributor but couldnt handle the amount of jerkle circing and dog fucking so i made the switch to a private road construction/maintenance/agricultural business. its nice to just work and think for myself instead of having someone constantly up my ass about stupid shit

>>1594200

>I bet you look like shit and have a small dick.

im pretty average looking nothing special. i have massive hands though which made me think i had a tiny penis my whole life because when i hold it it looks small as fuck but its still like 7 1/2" being generous so it could be worse

>>1594047

>I've never seen you say anything of value or insightful. You just seem to be a delusional faggot. I have at time confused with the princess seven dust troll on vr. She pretends to be a tranny

not my fault youre clearly illiterate, ans i don't need to know what kind of weird tranny porn youre into

>>1594065

>I didn't post in that thread lol.

roger that

>>1594442

fucking love these little bastards i use them for installing and removing all sorts of pins. i like the ones with a hole in the center you can stick a chunk of 1 inch ready-rod in, with some big plate washers to suck pins into stubborn holes

works is 60 ton

Milwaukee Wed Apr 17 04:46:04 2019 No.1594540 [DELETED]

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>>1594293

>In other words you grandfathered in your credentials and haven't worked outside your family's bidness in the real world.

my family doesnt own a business, we're all just nigger employees, and i dont work with any of them. what i actually meant was my old man took me and my autistic brother to the equipment repair shop he worked at pretty well as soon as i could walk

would be nice though then maybe i could afford nice things

>For hoi polloi amongst us, if you don't follow health and safety you don't get to work

i am familiar, i used to do a lot of work in the gas industry (nexen, chevron, encana, shell, imperial, apache, etc) for a big name equipment distributor but couldnt handle the amount of jerkle circing and dog fucking so i made the switch to a private road construction/maintenance/agricultural business. its nice to just work and think for myself.

>>1594200 #

>I bet you look like shit and have a small dick.

im pretty average looking nothing special. i have massive hands though which made me think i had a tiny penis my whole life because when i hold it it looks small as fuck but its still like 7 1/2" being generous so it could be worse

>>1594047

>I've never seen you say anything of value or insightful. You just seem to be a delusional faggot. I have at time confused with the princess seven dust troll on vr. She pretends to be a tranny

not my fault youre clearly illiterate, ans i don't need to know what kind of weird tranny porn youre into

>>1594065

>I didn't post in that thread lol.

roger that

>>1594442

fucking love these little bastards i use them for installing and removing all sorts of pins. i like the ones with a hole in the center you can stick a chunk of 1 inch ready-rod in, with some big plate washers to suck pins into stubborn holes, biggest ive used is 100 ton in the shop press, 567 ton would be fucking crazy

>inb4 "lol nice skin nigger" my hands are just dirty, they always are. fight me. im of swedish/english descent

Milwaukee Wed Apr 17 04:52:03 2019 No.1594542
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>>1594293

>In other words you grandfathered in your credentials and haven't worked outside your family's bidness in the real world.

my family doesnt own a business, we're all just nigger employees, and i dont work with any of them. what i actually meant was my old man took me and my autistic brother to the equipment repair shop he worked at pretty well as soon as i could walk

would be nice though then maybe i could afford nice things

>For hoi polloi amongst us, if you don't follow health and safety you don't get to work

i am familiar, i used to do a lot of work in the gas industry (nexen, chevron, encana, shell, imperial, apache, etc) for a big name equipment distributor but couldnt handle the amount of jerkle circing and dog fucking so i made the switch to a private road construction/maintenance/agricultural business. its nice to just work and think for myself.

>>1594200

>I bet you look like shit and have a small dick.

im pretty average looking nothing special. i have massive hands though which made me think i had a tiny penis my whole life because when i hold it it looks small as fuck but its still like 7 1/2" being generous so it could be worse

>>1594047

>I've never seen you say anything of value or insightful. You just seem to be a delusional faggot. I have at time confused with the princess seven dust troll on vr. She pretends to be a tranny

not my fault youre clearly illiterate, and i don't need to know what kind of weird tranny porn youre into

>>1594065

>I didn't post in that thread lol.

roger that

>>1594442

fucking love these little bastards i use them for installing and removing all sorts of pins. i like the ones with a hole in the center you can stick a chunk of 1 inch ready-rod in, with some big plate washers to suck pins into stubborn holes, biggest ive used is 100 ton in the shop press, 567 would be fucking crazy

>inb4 "lol nice skin nigger" im swedish and white as fuck. my hands are dirty, they always are. fight me

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 17 11:23:22 2019 No.1594720 >>1594542 >all that text What a fucking faggot

Anonymous Wed Apr 17 11:27:16 2019 No.1594721

>>1594542
>its still like 7 1/2" being generous so it could be worse

You're really starting to show why you have a name. It's none of those bullshit reasons you gave. It's because you are fucked up, and the more you post these walls-of-text, the more it is apparent.

Milwaukee Wed Apr 17 13:03:43 2019 No.1594767

>>1594721

>It's because you are fucked up

you quote me in response of somebody insulting the size of my junk, and try to make me look like the one thats fucked up?

as far as the wall of text goes, i don't know about you but i appreciate a response when i talk to someone, which is why i try to reply to the people that are talking to me directly.

also

>4chan regular
>not fucked up

pick one

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 17 13:04:16 2019 No.1594768 File: 382 KB, 960x581, fHC6GyNp8Sn6DRnCgPcDdaATZVAk06qznRPgoY2_GQo.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1594542 You're the /diy/ equivalent of this.

>>	Milwaukee Wed Apr 17 13:39:53 2019 No.1594782 >>1594768 cry the fuck more

Anonymous Wed Apr 17 13:45:41 2019 No.1594786

>>1591049
>>1591034
>The $10 Angle Grinder? Safely? You don't. That said, leather jacket, full face shield, safety glasses under the face shield, go slow with your cuts, don't twist in your cut line, USE THE GUARD CORRECTLY, inspect the disk every time you go to turn it on (use thicker disks since this isn't a precision job, they are less likely to break), use the grinder off to the side of your body, DO NOT stand behind it, and respect the fact you have explodium spinning at 11,000 RPM that wants nothing more than to implant itself into your face.

>Don't develop Survivor's Bias when it comes to angle grinders.

You're a fucking retard. Angle grinder discs have barely any mass, and the kinetic energy a bit of disc can have when impacting your body isn't huge at all. The worst you'll get is a bruise and a bad scratch on your skin if you aren't wearing sturdy clothes.

If you put your face in the line of a spinning, unguarded disc, then you're a retard. I have no issues using a 5" angle grinder without a guard as long as the disc plane isn't lined up with my face because i know any bit flying away won't be able to hurt any part of my body but my face.

Also angle grinder discs rarely explode. In fact, i've used up hundreds of not thousands of discs in my lifetime and never even SEEN a disc explode. That's how fucking rare of an event it is.

Angle grinder safety tips:

- Cut with the wheel dragging over the work, not pushing, otherwise kickback
- Don't cant the disc while cutting
- Don't put your fucking face in the same plane as the spinning disc, if you absolutely have to, wear a mask/goggles and use a disc guard on the grinder

If it makes you feel good, wear thick gloves and a leather jacket, whatever. It's not like the grinder will care. You can cut thru a thick leather glove in 0.2 seconds.

Anonymous Wed Apr 17 13:54:00 2019 No.1594792

>>1594767
This is not a forum. Names and trips are not normal here. Brevity is a virtue. If you choose to use a name or a trip, anything beyond responding directly to the OP will probably be seen as attention whoring. If you think you can beat that assessment with wit and knowledge, by all means try, we can't stop you. But you'll lose. Oh, and you're just feeding trolls itt.

Anonymous Wed Apr 17 14:16:25 2019 No.1594803
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>>1588325

a friend took a summer job in a public park and had to use one of those flame weeders while temperatures were hitting 100°F/39°C. His pay was good since a risk premium was included in the salary. The guy had fair skin and with the combined heats of the sun and the flame he'd come back red like a tomato with no sweat left each evening. He mentionned the gas barrel was leaky sometimes. I'd never had done this job.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 17 14:44:57 2019 No.1594819 >>1594782 Im sure you will

Milwaukee Wed Apr 17 19:02:36 2019 No.1594954

>>1594768

You know, you are right. I'm a colossal piece of shit, compensating for my cheeto-chomping basement virginity by attention whoring. I've sucked deep and hard on the dick of iniquity.

Anons of /diy/, I call on you all to add me to your filters. Purge me like a slice of pizza from a 16 year old cheerleader's stomach.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 17 20:01:30 2019 No.1594997 >>1589818 Arent you that dumbass that flipped his car?

Anonymous Wed Apr 17 20:53:41 2019 No.1595018

>>1589767
i used one of these in a quarry when i was 16-17, thought it was the heaviest thing ever. after that they put me on a huge outdoor table saw for cutting stone, i had to use a skid steer to put the stone on it.
fuck man i would never let my kid do that shit, what was i thinking....

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 18 01:25:32 2019 No.1595095 File: 106 KB, 1136x1136, hc0qVrf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1594786 >barely any mass

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 18 01:35:16 2019 No.1595101 >>1590054 I know a dude who knocked his teeth out in the parking lot of an auto parts store. That's enough to make me always wse a chain or cable as a fail safe. I could think he's an idiot but you never know if i am too. Most would use cheap garbage.

Milwaukee Thu Apr 18 03:28:42 2019 No.1595146

>>1594954

youre taking this a little too far man. pretty embarassing to read, if you hate me that much do us both a favor and filter my posts, you dont need to post as me in a failed attempt to make me look bad

and it makes you seem desperate as fuck probably crying and shouting profanities at your computer screen. youre so concerned that everyone stays anonymous because otherwise you know you wont fit in. you never do. everyone always turns against you, except the collective anonymous that is 4chan

unfortunate, but your social handicap is not my problem

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 18 08:20:16 2019 No.1595240 >>1595146 you are a colossal cunt

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 18 08:40:24 2019 No.1595250 >>1594786 t. Never used a tool b4

Anonymous Thu Apr 18 10:05:44 2019 No.1595293

>>1594954
>>1595146

Trying to act like people are impersonating you only works once faggot.
It's painfully obvious when you try to do this and everyone sees through it.
Once you do it a second time it's even more obvious.

You seem butt-hurt. Perhaps 4chan isn't for you.

Anonymous Fri Apr 19 05:12:21 2019 No.1595684
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>>1594542
Didn't know Millwaukee is in Sweden.

Oh wait, are you one of those..
>hi_guyse_im_1-16_swedish_hail_thor_100_percent_norskmen_unite.jpg

Still, you need to chill the fuck out, being a vet. expert doesn't give you green card to act like immature obnoxious attention-starved cunt.
Nobody gives a fuck about your genitalia or your hands here, jesus.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 19 11:21:10 2019 No.1595802 I never use guard or handle on angle grinder, it limits its purpose for 300%, like you can't get into most places you could manage without those safety thingies.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 19 15:56:27 2019 No.1595944 >>1590265 Something similar happened to me. One of the worst experiences in my life. The needle scraping was terrible.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 19 17:55:42 2019 No.1596002 >>1590466 Dude, this is 4channel not liveleak.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 19 18:01:08 2019 No.1596008 File: 56 KB, 1000x1000, milwaukee-right-angle-drills-1675-6-64_1000.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1588325 It's rumored that they used a holehawg to start the earth's rotation

Anonymous Fri Apr 19 21:49:30 2019 No.1596129

>>1590581
>be 10yr old me
>on holiday at grans
>helping gran make something that required using the madolin
>can't get the carrot to stick on the saftey guard, doing it without
>going really well, do lots of carrots
>slicing stump of one of the last ones
>slice the tip of my finger off
>immediate reaction: This hurts
>action to remedy: shake finger back and fourth
>blood trail up the wall, over the ceiling, on the ceral boxes, on the socks over the stove, on the stove, on the floor
.>dried blood drops remains on ceiling for a couple years after until they repaint

TL;DR: Fuck mandolins

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>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 19 22:55:03 2019 No.1596161 Using a 25,000 RPM die grinder with a cut off wheel and no guard while not wearing safety glasses or a face shield.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 19 23:03:07 2019 No.1596164 >>1591795 These things cut like butter with a good blade. Granted I was only cutting a bunch of aluminum, but the speed and profieciency of the tool definitely had me forget how dangerous it could be.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 19 23:04:48 2019 No.1596166 >>1595095 Fake picture

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 19 23:21:14 2019 No.1596176 >>1591795 I have that exact one and love it. Best $94.99 I ever spent except for the "Greek" option when I hired Zoey Smith.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 02:03:58 2019 No.1596230 >>1588328 I just use magnet to get those shards out of an eye

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 03:11:43 2019 No.1596248 >>1596164 I have one that I mostly use for 300 stainless steel. With a good blade, it's still in the "cuts like butter" territory.

Milwaukee Sat Apr 20 03:28:27 2019 No.1596255 [DELETED]

>>1595293

its time to stop, everyone including me is getting annoyed at us trying to out gay each other. pic related, check the post numbers and the (You). if i made that post they would both have a (You)

>>1595684

nope and thats the first time ive even told anyone im swedish, in person or on the internet. i posted the picture of my hand because it was related to my response to that guy asking about my penis size

>Still, you need to chill the fuck out

im pretty chill idk about you though

>>1594954
>>1595240

samefag

Milwaukee Sat Apr 20 03:30:30 2019 No.1596256 [DELETED]

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>>15952932

its time to stop, everyone including me is getting annoyed at us trying to out gay each other. pic related, check the post numbers and the (You). if i made that post they would both have a (You)

>>1595684

nope and thats the first time ive even told anyone im swedish, in person or on the internet. i posted the picture of my hand because it was related to my response to that guy asking about my penis size

>Still, you need to chill the fuck out

im pretty chill idk about you though

>>1594954
>>1595240

samefag

Milwaukee Sat Apr 20 03:32:27 2019 No.1596257 [DELETED]

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>>15952932

its time to stop, everyone including me is getting annoyed at us trying to out gay each other. pic related, check the post numbers and the (You). if i made that post they would both have a (You)

>>1595684

nope and thats the first time ive even told anyone im swedish, in person or on the internet. i posted the picture of my hand because it was related to my response to that guy asking about my penis size

>Still, you need to chill the fuck out

im pretty chill idk about you though

>>1594954
>>1595240

samefag

Milwaukee Sat Apr 20 03:34:28 2019 No.1596258
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>>1595293

its time to stop, everyone including me is getting annoyed at us trying to out gay each other. pic related, check the post numbers and the (You). if i made that post they would both have a (You)

>>1595684

nope and thats the first time ive even told anyone im swedish, in person or on the internet. i posted the picture of my hand because it was related to my response to that guy asking about my penis size

>Still, you need to chill the fuck out

im pretty chill idk about you though

>>1594954
>>1595240

samefag

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 04:19:48 2019 No.1596274 >>1596258 >What is inspect element

Anonymous Sat Apr 20 04:39:59 2019 No.1596275

>>1596274

That's a mobile screenshot. He's still a faggot but he does show knowledge on a very diverse range of subjects. If I see a post made by him that isn't sperging out on angle grinders I am confident that the information he presents isn't just made up on the spot, which quite honestly is refreshing after reading post after post of peoples obnoxious bullshittery.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 04:41:34 2019 No.1596276 >>1596275 When has he ever said anything of value?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 09:02:30 2019 No.1596356 >>1590466 Shit, man, why'd you have to go and post that?

Anonymous Sat Apr 20 11:54:44 2019 No.1596423

>>1589767

>>1589767
Fucking hell I was working with one guy laying a drive he's kinda autistic and is very good with numbers, he took one of these and started grinding the bed of a Ford pickup, it had a metal bed and had some links in it, he was grinding with no ear protection and the sound was Insane everyone was shouting and screaming for him to stop and he couldn't here us.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 11:56:08 2019 No.1596424 >>1596275 Stop. Just stop. Its dumb to have a fucking name. No one trusts you or likes your wisdom. Maybe you dont be long on an Anonymous fucking message board if you dont get the point

Anonymous Sat Apr 20 13:09:47 2019 No.1596465

>>1596258

>Trying THIS hard to convince everyone you're being samefagged, whilst "impersonating" yourself because you got assblasted that most people here just really don't like you.
>"check the poster count", ignoring the times
>implying this is /b/ or a place where people samefag often
>claiming samefag when you're the namefag here, and thus the one looking for attention.

lmao.
Nice shoop.
Now stop being a faggot or go back to tumblr since you're so starved for attention.

In every other thread I've seen your ass in, you start by replying to someone's (generally tame) comment by being an abrasive asshole about it.

When they call you out as the autistic retard you are, you immediately jump to
>"REEEEEEEEEEEEE I'm being samefagged"
Then start trying to fake impersonation.

It's not though, because you use the same lack of punctuation, line spacing, and lack of capitalization. And the same way of talking.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 14:11:29 2019 No.1596490 >>1590059 >spring for a garage door thats a baby spring try a 6in diameter spring

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>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 15:04:11 2019 No.1596525 >>1596424 >>1596465 samefag

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 16:02:08 2019 No.1596551 >>1596525 >the namefag trying to samefag to accuse others of samefagging lol

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 20 16:52:16 2019 No.1596582 >>1590595 Literally the most retarded design for its function, I've spent hours trying to scoop all the garlic and ginger out from the folded edges...

Anonymous Sat Apr 20 17:17:29 2019 No.1596602

>>1594786
>You can cut thru a thick leather glove in 0.2 seconds
The glove serves as an ablative later. That's 0.2 seconds that it's not cutting into your hand, which should be about enough time to address the situation. It can be the difference between a band-aid and a trip to the hospital.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 21 22:49:05 2019 No.1597340 >>1596164 it scares the fuck out of me >barely any mass >worst you'll get is a bruise https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3137829/

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 21 23:48:10 2019 No.1597369 >>1594997 no, hes the furry that almost drove off a cliff while larping initial D. incredibly cringe and unfortunate he is still with us

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 01:11:35 2019 No.1597392 >>1588327 fpbp

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 11:04:11 2019 No.1597567 File: 66 KB, 835x844, 1499852738429.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Angle grinders are safe if used with care and operated with the guard on.

Anonymous Mon Apr 22 13:00:10 2019 No.1597634

>>1596582
lol'd heartily

>>In any case, if am paranoid about any tool on my shop, is that fucking table saw.

Yep. It's like, it's just rolling there wanting to chop off my fingers... while it requires your fucking fingers to be less that 10cm of the blade.

Anonymous Mon Apr 22 13:45:01 2019 No.1597650

>>1590247
>fuck you for trying to defend a patent troll
that's not what a patent troll is.
Patent troll is someone who patents an obvious idea that wouldn't stand in court and doesn't do anything with it other than sue people for it, demanding payments that are smaller than expected cost of going to court.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 13:58:19 2019 No.1597656 >>1591801 >hearing protection enjoy being near deaf at 50. I have good enough hearing that angle grinder literally hurts my ears, as in I feel pain. Hearing protection is an absolute must, second only to eye protection

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 14:20:01 2019 No.1597661 >>1597567 The wound was irrigated and debrided

Anonymous Mon Apr 22 14:42:24 2019 No.1597667

>>1597656
I can't stick being with an angle grinder for any amount of time, but at least it's not sneaky,I can cross cut on a chop saw quite happily for hours, it's only when I stop and think oh wow actually I can't hear properly now.
Loudest thing I know a guy bought the cheapest table saw money can buy, can't be in the same room without defenders it's extremely uncomfortable, can physically feel the air pressure in my ears. Very strange almost feel sick.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 18:43:41 2019 No.1597825 >>1594768 this describes Milwaukee to a T. engaging him in anything more than doling out a disciplinary lashing is a fools errand.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 22 18:51:06 2019 No.1597830 >>1588384 A man's sport.

Oshkosh omigosh Mon Apr 22 20:24:11 2019 No.1597920

>>1597650

And that's what sawstop did. A totally obvious invention, which is why people had already invented it before sawstop and I know because trust me I've seen some shit. Then they go around suing people and not doing anything except a token product that barely sells. Fucking ip trolls stealing money that rightly belongs to Bosch.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 23 01:23:14 2019 No.1598040 >>1597567 just to think only like a decade ago or so they started to bring in safety regulations into the workplace when it used to be just use common sense.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 23 01:38:05 2019 No.1598042 >>1598040 The 80's was almost 40 years ago anon...

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 23 01:46:53 2019 No.1598044 >>1598040 OSHA's been around since 1973.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 23 02:01:41 2019 No.1598048 >>1598042 >>1598044 mm, old mate told me a different story. Maybe on sense it wasn't enforce as much until recently at places he worked at.

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>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 23 16:16:12 2019 No.1598323 File: 14 KB, 618x168, 40 years - a decade or so.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1598040 >only like a decade ago or so

Anonymous Tue Apr 23 16:23:15 2019 No.1598324

>>1597920
boo hooo hoo, poor Bosch. Why I bet those poor lil country bumpkins just didn't know what hit em when they tried selling in the big ole city.

They were just simple german folk who barely used any slave labor while producing for Hitler's Germany. They must be so confused with US Patent Laws, I mean just look how confused they were while helping VW devise the software to fool US emissions!

Thanks for sticking up for the little guy

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 23 17:53:14 2019 No.1598366 File: 48 KB, 851x538, Screenshot_20190423_225204.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Using one of these on a wonky scaffold to try and cut down cast iron is always a squeaky bum moment

Anonymous Tue Apr 23 18:03:00 2019 No.1598369

>>1597650
>Patent troll is someone who patents an obvious idea that wouldn't stand in court and doesn't do anything with it other than sue people for it

The sawstop guy has over 100 different patents of vague and obvious table saw safety mechanisms. You know, to patent troll.
Everyone just said fine, fuck you and ignored him.
The only reason he even built sawstop was to push legislation forcing new measures, and to earn royalties on his shitty patents.

>>1598324
He was a retired millionaire with a PHD before he even started his endeavor.

There is no "little guy" in this situation.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 23 19:28:07 2019 No.1598434 >>1598323 im talking about in a town with a pop of 100k

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 23 19:35:41 2019 No.1598439 >>1593940 Go join a forum you retarded old fuck

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 23 19:37:24 2019 No.1598444 >>1598434 >towns with pops of 100k are exempt from OSHA What law is this?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 23 21:55:56 2019 No.1598511 >>1598439 kek

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 23 22:05:24 2019 No.1598514 >>1598444 never said it was exempt. see >>1598048 i'm only repeating what was said to me.

Anonymous Wed Apr 24 02:35:16 2019 No.1598600

I'm an acoustics guy wandering through this thread and I'm just gonna drop this:
Holy SHIT wear as much ear protection as possible, even when what you're doing isn't "loud".

Hearing is absurdly easy to damage. OSHA standards are actually way too lenient.
Power tools will fuck up your hearing in ways that won't show up on hearing tests. Everyone thinks sounds just get quieter with increasing damage, so they say "hey, everything's as loud as it's ever been, I must be fine!"

What actually happens: you lose your ability to pick sounds apart from background noise -- people sitting next to you in a noisy diner become indecipherable even if they yell. A fan going three rooms away sounds close, and your partner whispering naughty shit in your ear sounds far away and impersonal. And the whole time the hearing test says you're fine.

Oh, and NSAIDS give you tinnitus, use them as little as possible and go for other anti-inflammatory methods. My personal favorite is a combo of borage oil and fish oil (equal parts GLA and EPA). Alright, I'm done.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 24 02:48:07 2019 No.1598607 >>1598439 pretty sure hes not even 30 most of what he says applies to the real world you guys are just womanized autists regardless hes gone now he sperged out in another thread and ragequit

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 24 02:49:29 2019 No.1598608 >>1598600 t. the guy wearing earmuffs w/ plugs while using a blender to mix his basedboy shake

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 24 02:50:32 2019 No.1598610 >>1598608 s o yboy

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 24 03:12:34 2019 No.1598623 >>1598607 I don't believe it. Namefags and tripfags need the attention too much. The dickhead will be back, rest assured. Probably claiming "I was drunk" when he does.

Anonymous Wed Apr 24 03:54:36 2019 No.1598631

>>1597667
Cheap table saw is probably cheap bearing. My dad had a small table saw That sounded like shit but sang beautifully when I changed the bearing. He buys his shit second hand and it all sounds horrible. Prob. has bad bearings everywhere.

I`ll use ear pro. with my grinder but it's harbor freight trash. Maybe a more expensive new unit you don't need ear pro. Ear pro and prescription glasses is all I use. I would like to use a face shield and do in professional setting but that costs so fuck it..I dunno what the hate for "knee pads" was about. Like if you`re working on a ship and constantly kneeling on some bullshit and want to bring a piece of foam from a couch you found to kneel on to make your life easier I dont see why someone would make it their business to push you over and call you a nancy fag about it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 24 04:02:24 2019 No.1598634 Also dropping $100 on PPE to use the wrong tool instead of buying a $20 reciprocating saw. Thats a dildo move right there.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 24 05:36:39 2019 No.1598647 >>1598634 You need ppe for a saw too

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 24 09:16:45 2019 No.1598753 >>1598366 Are you retarded? That's for burning weeds and shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 24 09:34:30 2019 No.1598760 >>1598044 >>1598323 Not that anon, but they really didn't get stupidly invasive until the 90s.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 24 16:18:27 2019 No.1598936 >>1598753 Not sure if trolling but it's literally called a 'roofers torch'

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 24 17:36:11 2019 No.1598964 >>1598936 >cutting down cast iron

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 24 23:22:24 2019 No.1599141 >>1598936 Explain to me how that will do anything to cast iron other than heat it up to cook some bacon and eggs?

Anonymous Thu Apr 25 11:51:10 2019 No.1599348

>>1599141

Well, to be fair you can heat cast iron at its joint and then once its heated to a sufficient temperature you can knock it out with a hammer. I've seen plumbers do this beforehand on older builds, not the best way of doing it however it's definitely done.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 25 16:30:59 2019 No.1599502 >>1599348 They're melting the lead in the joint.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 25 17:02:57 2019 No.1599522 >>1596152 That shit is playing Russian roulette with a Glock.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 25 20:38:00 2019 No.1599645 /thread

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 25 20:39:52 2019 No.1599648 >>1591028 No issue with grinder. Yes issue with stupidity.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 25 20:56:28 2019 No.1599656 >>1594448 >Standing on a big coil spring. >Jump boost pad IRL

Anonymous Thu Apr 25 21:15:45 2019 No.1599665

>>1594786
You're 100% right, anon, broken zip cutter wheels ain't shit. Safety-tards can't into risk assessment. It sure gets hot n sweaty when you're grindin. Just wear a t-shirt, and shorts and mind where your sparks are going. ANSI rated glasses for any stray sparks. Don't even mind the plane of rotation. Better off seeing what you're cuttng well. I don't even pay any mind when cutting 1/2 inch rod. If I twist the grinder when it's deep in metal, only thing you'll lose is a $3 expendable disk.
This image is the result of a cutoff wheel exploding and hitting thin sheet metal. Barely a scratch.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=angle+grinder+face&iax=images&ia=images&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redditmedia.com%2FWcoHtPzQAK0ntiEBb2nfiW9ksTNn6xkSzfROLqlh_1g.jpg%3Fw%3D960%26s%3D931a07bec363ab4db8794fa0fb3937b8

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 25 21:23:54 2019 No.1599668 >>1599665 So far I checked 3 of those stories and they are all from grinder kickback/getting hit with the grinder itself.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 25 21:26:03 2019 No.1599669 >>1596129 >Use angle grinder without guard >Grinder wheel blows up >Cuts me, blood spraying everywhere >Fuck angle grinders

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 25 21:29:02 2019 No.1599672 >>1596230 I'll go out on a limb here and say you live in the US. HeaLThCAre

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 25 21:34:29 2019 No.1599677 >>1598049 Wtf is this? Circumcision tool?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 25 21:56:34 2019 No.1599692 >>1599677 for stripping corn off the cob they aren't dangerous

Anonymous Thu Apr 25 22:28:02 2019 No.1599701

>>1599668
Let's try this another way.

Get zip cut disc, fastest cut, thinnest wheel take wheel in hands snap in half easy

Look grinder number Grinder spin wheel 11,000 circles in minute many fast, car motor vroom vroom go 5000 circles in minute fastest, usually 2000 spinnies in minute, all in big metal box so no can't touchy no hear story people hurt by engine running by itself

use wheel cut metal bar size of pinky or.thumb cutttimg cutting good good cutting twist wheel deep in cut get angry instant BOOM broken wheel remember easy break with hands now wheel move fast many fast spinnies Break easy sharp piece wheel angry at you very bad explode BOOM big piece stick in you face no good be safe thin grind wheel angry

...
Mass x velocity squared
Wheel mass maybe 50 grams ( website dosent say zip cut wheel weight) maybe 10 gram exploded 1/5 of wheel piece hits face
147 grain bullet standard 9mm pistol bullet weigh 9 grams go maybe 1000 feet per second very aerodynamic low drag designed shape to poke holes

Sharp zip cut wheel very thin low drag Pierce skin maybe 2 inches forward facing area fast increase stop wheel faster maybe until hit bone or heavy muscle

No easy Info on speed of broken 10 gram piece of angle grinder zip cut disc math skills not good enough to calculate spinning disc speed radius thickness mass deceleration etc. But wheel spinning 2x than all consumer vehicles engines must be very fast 9 gram wheel think is light but going very fast also very sharp like 9mm pistol bullet in glock very rough estimate still be safe dangerous wheel no want even paper cut on pretty face especially be known as stupid guy get big cut face from grinder

Anonymous Fri Apr 26 00:28:20 2019 No.1599752

>>1599701
It's okay sport. We cant all be thunderfoot.

Here's the numbers youwanted, the momentum of a 9mm bullet would be 3.069kgm/s

The whole disc (26g) (.1143m) at 11,000 rom would be 11.2kgm2/s
So as long as it broke into 4 or more pieces it would have less momentum.

I was just pointing out that your experimental data suggests that flying fragments of disc do not seem to lead in injuries.

It seems to be much more important that you're holding onto a 1.something hp motor and it's going to embed anything it wants to in your flashy bits if you treat it wrong. One of the top stories you linked made it sound like it was the edge of the guard that got rammed into his chin, or the broken disc stuck in the machine hit him with the full force of the motor.

Which is kind of interesting. I bet you could model that load of a breaking disc or kickback, oh but its ac motors so theres no free breaking.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 26 02:40:16 2019 No.1599790 >>1599502 Correct

Anonymous Fri Apr 26 21:27:07 2019 No.1600234

>>1593071
That's why buffers don;t have guards on them, so it launches it into whatever is behind it rather than into the guard and flying out into your dick.

>>1593119
Rigging and heavy iron work, go look at a place that makes mezzanines or fabs up big shit you will see the most dumbfuck moves and near misses its unbelievable.

To all the retards arguing about angle grinders, get some personal responsibility. If you need the government to mandate you to wear PPE to operate the fast spinny thing that cuts stuff, you're a retard. In the same vain if you run the fast spinny cutty thingy in your boxers and sandals you're also a fucking retard.

You don't need the full-body condom, hardhat, astronaut suit and bubble to clean up some saw cuts with an angle grinder, that doesn't make doing it naked alright either. Use your fucking heads.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 27 15:56:23 2019 No.1600646 >>1598366 That wouldn't even cut a 2x4 you retard. Im sick of you larping faggots on my board

Anonymous Sat Apr 27 16:01:38 2019 No.1600648

>>1592947
The only thing you really need is eye protection, gloves help but can also take away your sense of touch and spatial awareness, earpro is fine too, I normally just use my earphones, mask if you're dealing with rust and galv shit as said before, sparks hurt but you won't die if they are showering you, I survived just fine grinding with short sleeves on

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 27 16:09:46 2019 No.1600657 >>1598936 It's for melting pitch roofing felt, basically tar, not even close to heating iron enough to weaken it retard. Give your dad his computer back timmy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 27 16:26:49 2019 No.1600673 >>1599672 Nah we have to pay for Healthcare in the US so doctors have a good incentive to do a good job

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