Mods and Addons So I got a brand new drill press. Addons will be a 2cm hardwood board screwed onto the table to protect drills and table and a plastic piping to vacuum off the drilling chips. How do you mod your machines, or what helpful addons do you build?

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Anonymous Mon Dec 3 09:30:22 2018 No.1508425 [Reply] [Original]

Mods and Addons

So I got a brand new drill press.
Addons will be a 2cm hardwood board screwed onto the table to protect drills and table and a plastic piping to vacuum off the drilling chips.

How do you mod your machines, or what helpful addons do you build?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 09:45:27 2018 No.1508430 >>1508425 >2cm hardwood board screwed onto the table to protect drills and table Why? There's a hole in the table for just that reason.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 09:52:55 2018 No.1508433 File: 94 KB, 297x198, Screenshot_2018-12-03_09-52-34.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1508430 >There's a hole in the table for just that reason.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 09:55:26 2018 No.1508434 File: 21 KB, 328x449, images (9).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1508433 >brand new drill press.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 10:08:56 2018 No.1508438 >>1508430 >>1508433 even if there was no hole for the drill to dip on you have a fucking drill pointing at exactly this point just drill a hole bumfuck

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 10:15:53 2018 No.1508442 File: 167 KB, 1028x780, need_hardwood.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1508438 >mfw no 2cm hardwood board to protect table

Anonymous Mon Dec 3 10:19:46 2018 No.1508447
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>>1508425
I'll bite.
It looks like the big wheel on top is belt-fed mechanical power.
The lever in back looks like it raises and lowers the whole drill, which really can't be right if the top wheel really is the power source.
And what's with the big handle on the side? Is that the power source?
And why DOESN'T the table have a hole in the middle?

Anonymous Mon Dec 3 13:29:00 2018 No.1508521

>>1508430
>>1508433
>>1508434
>>1508438
>>1508442
>>1508447
To be honest I failed hard, thinking that an image of an obvious old and ancient drill press would never be considered the brand new one I bought. Should have known better since it's 4chan.

ffs, I just picked that one to avoid that the entire threat derails into a discussion about the specific machine I bought.

And yes, while there is a hole already in the table by default, the entire table can be rotated and tilted so there is no guarantee that the hole is always under the drill.

Anonymous Mon Dec 3 13:59:32 2018 No.1508544
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>>1508425
>helpful addons do you build?

I got tired of awkward C-clamps and made pic related which is a bunch of tapered blocks of wood, two large carriage bolts, and the top boards that clamp the work piece. It can clamp something as thin as sheet metal up to something several inches thick quickly and easily.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 18:11:29 2018 No.1508731 >>1508521 next time post a real pic of the actual thing yohr making your thread about. this should be a minimum requirements

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 3 18:14:46 2018 No.1508732 >>1508544 Nice and oldschool.

Anonymous Mon Dec 3 21:22:17 2018 No.1508860

>>1508544
jesus christ just buy a drill vise.

i know its diy but with the amount of time you not only spent making that setup, but the time you spend fucking with it every time you use the drill,you could easily afford a nice vise and get on with your life.

Anonymous Tue Dec 4 06:38:48 2018 No.1509045
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>>1508860
>but the time you spend fucking with it every time you use the drill

Explain how a drill vise can hold something thin, like 1/8 thick.

Explain how a drill vise is quicker or more versatile, when the slots have to line up with the slots in the base plate, which quite often does not allow you to move the piece to the proper location you want to drill. My system never runs out of adjustment.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 4 07:03:10 2018 No.1509056 >>1508860 Better tell machine shops all over the world to throw away their toe clamps. Truly you have revolutionized the work holding world.

Anonymous Tue Dec 4 07:28:00 2018 No.1509066 [DELETED]

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>>1509045
> Explain how a drill vise can hold something thin, like 1/8 thick.
Explain why you would be using a drill press to drill something 1/8 thick instead of, ya know, a hand drill.

> when the slots have to line up with the slots in the base plate,
You often remove the vice bolts between every hole you drill..?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 4 07:33:25 2018 No.1509069 Why would you even bother with securing that? It's a small hole in thin wood. Line it up with one hand, press, and be done with it.

Anonymous Tue Dec 4 08:39:38 2018 No.1509097
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>>1509045
pic related.
>>1509056
>trying to draw some false equivolency between an actual quick and easy to use clamping product and anon's (minimum) 8 piece home made clamping setup
truly you have revolutionized my perception of dumb.

Anonymous Tue Dec 4 08:42:33 2018 No.1509099
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>>1509045
>>1509097
also if youre a poorfag and can only afford basic bitch drill vise(nothing wrong with that) get pic related so you can move the clamp to hold the piece where you want it. theres a reason it has slots instead of holes.

Anonymous Tue Dec 4 08:44:54 2018 No.1509101

>>1509097

that $200 vise still cannot clamp things like thin metal, say 1/8 thick. and while it's really nice in many cases, it's too tall for a table top drill press, while the home made system works fine on almost any drill press, and is more rigid than that vise.

>inb4 buy a floor drill and that vise and stop using your stupid wood clamps

Anonymous Tue Dec 4 08:50:19 2018 No.1509108

>>1509101
$50 on amzn. can you show me your problem with the 1/8" metal please? im having trouble visualizing your issue. im imagining an 1/8" square stick of metal clamping in there just fine.
>too tall
yea, for a bench drill press i can see that being an issue. not gonna recommend a floor standing drill. i would like one too but being a renter and not an owner i dont think its a good idea.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 4 08:51:07 2018 No.1509110 >>1509099 >get pic related so you can move the clamp to hold the piece where you want it. How do you use those with a drill vise and drill table that both have slots that are a lot wider than those things?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 4 08:51:41 2018 No.1509111 >>1509110 washers.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 4 08:55:17 2018 No.1509113 >>1509110 derp, maybe you meant slots placed farther apart rather than bigger in size. in that case you would need a thin piece of wood or metal as an intermediary with the mounting patterns of both the drill and the vise.

Anonymous Tue Dec 4 09:00:54 2018 No.1509116

>>1509108
>can you show me your problem with the 1/8" metal please?

When I'm drilling through metal, it helps to have a block of wood behind it, and a clamp system that uses downward force rather than side force is 100x simpler to set up, especially if the piece of metal does not have parallel sides. Try clamping a triangular piece of anything in that vise; you can't.

I think I'm done with this debate, because either I'm not making my points well, or I'm wrong.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 4 09:07:06 2018 No.1509120 >>1509116 >I'm not making my points well no its starting to sound like you want to drill through a sheet of metal. you hadn't said this. this whole time i thought you were talking about like a stick of angle iron.

Anonymous Wed Dec 5 07:10:36 2018 No.1509697
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>>1509116
>Try clamping a triangular piece of anything in that vise; you can't.
Triangles can't spin between two parallel jaws. It's a fully-determined system even if one side has a small contact area. When I drill metal with a press, I typically put a thin piece of wood a little narrower than the piece of metal into the vise below the metal. And if the hole is small, I just brace the vise against the column rather than bolting it to the table.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 5 07:14:49 2018 No.1509699 >>1509697 that's a cool setup, but would not work well with sheet metal. Why can't anyone admit that clamping thin metal with downward force is 100x better than squeezing from the edges?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 5 08:21:06 2018 No.1509721 >>1509699 because youre an idiot that is trying to get people to help you use a benchtop drill press to drill through sheets of metal.

Anonymous Wed Dec 5 19:26:48 2018 No.1510047
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>>1509045

>Explain how a drill vise can hold something thin, like 1/8 thick.

By using parallels like a normal human being?

>Explain how a drill vise is quicker or more versatile, when the slots have to line up with the slots in the base plate, which quite often does not allow you to move the piece to the proper location you want to drill. My system never runs out of adjustment.

Jesus christ just use one bolt/nut to secure it. As long as the workpiece is vaguely under the drill when you start it is impossible to fuck up

>secure workpiece in vice level against parallels
>slide and rotate vice with nut loose on bolt
>get it so that the drill lands exactly with the punch
>righty tighty on nut

wow so hard

producing machine tools cheap enough to be bought by retards was a mistake

Anonymous Thu Dec 6 07:23:14 2018 No.1510250

>>1510047
>By using parallels like a normal human being?

Ok, I don't know anything about that, so I'm abnormal. How would I use parallels to clamp an irregularly shaped piece of 1/16 thick steel to drill a hole, using this vise >>1509045
. the horrible setup here >>1508544
is very easily used by abnormals, but if there is a system that is inexpensive and quick then I want to become normal.

And if it can't be done in that vise, please show what I need to buy or make. Thanks. I really want to be normal.

Anonymous Thu Dec 6 08:10:00 2018 No.1510273
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>>1510250
>clamp an irregularly shaped piece of 1/16 thick steel to drill a hole,

as in pic-related, which took about 20 seconds to clamp. I can't wait until I'm "normal" and it takes half that time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 6 08:29:26 2018 No.1510275 >>1510273 this meme needs a catchy name, like "shot of black"

Anonymous Thu Dec 6 08:45:46 2018 No.1510278

>>1510250
>want to make stupid shit
>ask people how to do it
>solutions include tools made for the job
>get mad when no solutions are what you want
>get more mad when folks cant read your mind or ascertain your exact needs without better descriptions or at least pictures to help
>no one has a solution as strong and independant as my home made 10 piece clamp system!
why are you even here if you know more than everyone else? too much of an arrogrant asshole you had noone IRL to brag about your superiority to?

Anonymous Thu Dec 6 08:57:24 2018 No.1510283

>>1510278

this board really needs user IDs.

OP asked to see things you have made. I showed something that works great FOR ME and never asked for solutions, until some clown said it was a terrible way to clamp things, and that's when I asked for the alternative solutions. And so far, none have been posted that work better for >>1510273 than my "10 piece" system.

It's a fun discussion when I'm always right and people like you keep telling me I'm an arrogant asshole, without providing any actual rebuttal. Do you know what the guy meant about using parallels with a drill vise? I'm interested in that technique.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 6 09:02:07 2018 No.1510285 File: 192 KB, 500x382, smile.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1510283 >I'm always right

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 6 09:10:45 2018 No.1510288 File: 57 KB, 500x500, im_always_right.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1510283 >I'm always right

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 6 12:53:14 2018 No.1510427 >>1508731 But what if we are 10 days away from pick up project and need ideas?

Anonymous Thu Dec 6 12:54:49 2018 No.1510429

>>1508860
This kinda. I'm on the fence. I been young and poor and adult and crippled. Bounced from having plenty of expandable income to hubting the house for nickles just to walk to a pop machine and not be depressed.

I know its kinda shitty what with all the starving kids and vets but i wanna

Anonymous Thu Dec 6 12:59:49 2018 No.1510432

>>1508860
Grr. Phoneposting. Some sort of /diy charity for clost neets and anons down on their luck.

The most heartbreaking shit i ever saw was my local highschool wich i am alumni of killed art and metal shop and wood shop for football and baseball.

IMMEDIATELY grades dropped, attendance dropped, and kids went from barely tolerating school to flat out dropping out.

To this daybi dont fucking use math over 8th grade level. Or reading. Little to no history. But you know what i do use? Sketches to help interpret ideas with bros. Welding anytime i need it for work or fun. Same with woodworking. I couldnt afford a nice makeup table for the old lady but i already had a gun and a box of nailes. I built one better thant the $600 particle board shitbox one and it will outlive us both.

>muh masters in lesbian dance.

...they should bring back range shooting and trades schooling back and cuck the fuck off with your bullshit calculus and spanish class

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 6 13:02:18 2018 No.1510434 File: 475 KB, 1080x1920, 20181206_120201.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1510275

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 6 13:02:58 2018 No.1510435 >>1510278 See! Like asaid! Art class and woodshop drafting. I planned my first home in 10th grade. To the fucking inch!

>>	Fuck Tripfags NO Thu Dec 6 13:03:35 2018 No.1510436 >>1510283 sage myself for this faggotry

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 6 17:32:27 2018 No.1510619 >>1510434 original boomer douchebag here. "silence of the clamps" works for me

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 6 17:35:13 2018 No.1510623 File: 60 KB, 251x316, daniela_goggles2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1510436 >sage myself for this faggotry what does that even mean. flame me coherently you fucking imbecile

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 6 17:44:43 2018 No.1510626 File: 376 KB, 611x547, this_is_weird.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1510435 >See! Like asaid! Art class and woodshop drafting. I planned my first home in 10th grade. To the fucking inch! is this a poem.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 6 17:49:25 2018 No.1510631 File: 8 KB, 251x201, the_greatest.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1510047 >By using parallels like a normal human being? I WANT TO SEE THIS PLS POST IT FAGGOT

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 6 17:51:08 2018 No.1510632 File: 3.97 MB, 3637x2453, muhammad-ali-pardon.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1510631 lol muhammad for ants. apologies

Anonymous Thu Dec 6 18:48:24 2018 No.1510659
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>>1510631

???? ??? ?

this isn't some machinist's secret handshake: it is basic day 1 stuff

for 3mm(close enough the the 1/8 of an inch plate the poster I (you)ed mentioned) then literally just:

>place a few THICC machinist's parallels like pic related on their side to provide support
>place plate on parallels and tighten vice while pressing workpiece against parallels
>if any of the parallels are loose tap the top face of the plate with a rubber mallet until they are all stuck in place(meaning the piece is resting flat on the parallels)
>screw down vice and drill your little heart out

the same goes for thinner plate just use more support(but obviously make sure there is nothing under the through hole you are drilling)

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 6 18:58:43 2018 No.1510665 File: 27 KB, 300x190, bessey auto-adjust.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Alright children, amateur hour was a while ago. You get one of the clamp champs and attach it to a sacrificial board that you can slide on the drill press table.

Anonymous Thu Dec 6 20:21:45 2018 No.1510708

>>1509097
Those are literally just wooden toe clamps. And toe clamps are superior for clamping thin sheet metal compared to a vise because it pins it to the table, wheras a vise will bend the work and lose clamping force/distort the work. Toe clamps are also extremely good for a huge variety of other situations, like parts with no parallel sides. Not saying a vise is bad, but to deny that toe clamps have a place is silly.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 6 20:25:23 2018 No.1510710 >>1510273 this shit is nonsensical m8

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 7 01:23:09 2018 No.1510774 >>1510273 retard why even clamp that thing hold it with one hand drill with the other ive drilled holes up to 1 3/4 inch into 3/4 plate using nothing but my one hand. bad idea? yea. did it work? mostly

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 7 17:29:10 2018 No.1511192 File: 238 KB, 630x883, rolfh.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1510659 win. I will clamp all my thin sheet metal this way. thank you sir.

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