/diy/ - Do It Yourself

[Anonymous No.1488267]

Just make one fucking battery god damn it

[Anonymous No.1488270]

>>1488267
r u some type of COMMUNIST, son?
>just buy one type of tool

[Anonymous No.1488284]

>>1488267
fuck is axminster, looks same as the magita

[Anonymous No.1488288]

>>1488284
When it comes to power drills, aren't they all made by two or three companies?

[Anonymous No.1488292]

>>1488288
More than just drills, the allusion of choice is amazing with power tools. Theyre all the same shit

[Anonymous No.1488467]

>>1488267
Just buy one brand of tool god damn it.

[Anonymous No.1488469]

>>1488267
That's like asking all car manufacturers to use the same engine. It won't happen.

The reason each brand uses it's own proprietary battery is to increase the likelihood of the consumer buying their tools than another manufacturer's if they already have a tool that uses their battery.

[Anonymous No.1488473]

>>1488469
Each car uses the same battery though

[Anonymous No.1488481]

>>1488473
No they don't. Some have larger batteries. Some have smaller batteries. Some have post-type terminals on top. Some have bolt-type terminals on the side.

[Beppu !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1488483]

>>1488267
Not sure what you’re on about, they do use the same batteries.

>that 54V DeWalt
Kek, fuckin socialist Yuros won’t even let the DeWalt marketing team have any fun.

[Anonymous No.1488516]

>>1488483
>Not sure what you’re on about, they do use the same batteries.
even if the pack had a removable side so you could slide new ones in some dipshit would put it in backwards and cause a fire or something

if those were designed where they could only be inserted one way, maybe

[Anonymous No.1488517]

>>1488267
industry standardization for battery packs?

[Anonymous No.1488523]

>>1488473
Low effort brainlet post

[Anonymous No.1488532]

>>1488469
>The reason each brand uses it's own proprietary battery is to increase the likelihood of the consumer buying their tools than another manufacturer's if they already have a tool that uses their battery.

This is the answer. They'll practically GIVE you the tool, anyway. They want you to buy MOAR BATTEREEEEEEEEES. By the time whatever hot-shit cordless tool you buy hits the shelves, the production run is probably over, and DeWank is already spewing its replacement. They don't care. They want to sell you expensive-as-fuck batteries as long as they can. Then, just when you think you've got enough batteris to get you through a work day without waiting on the fucking things to charge, they change the battery technology, and all new tools only take the new battery. Now, your 1.21 Gigabucks of "legacy" batteries are shit, and you bend over for the lithium enema again.

Similar to cell phones. The carrier will GIVE you the phone. It's the monthly fix they're jonesin' for.

[Anonymous No.1488535]

>>1488288
when it comes to batteries they are all the same on the inside, they all use the same couple varieties of Samsung or LG cells arranged in different ways inside of the case.

[Anonymous No.1488537]

>poorfags only have one battery
just buy two batteries per tool.
pretty simple.
does anyone seriously go oh i need to saw some wood, better take the battery out of the drill.
ok time to put the wood uyp now its cut battery into the drill ok now into the impact please ok now lunch time battery into the radio. fuck off lol.

[Anonymous No.1488543]

>>1488517
exactly
just like it took 20 years for cell phone makers to decide on an (almost) universal charging cable connection type

[Beppu !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1488546]

>>1488537
It’s nicer to have one brand, one charger, and half a dozen batteries. I can’t stand having 3 different fucking chargers on my workbench but those shitty 18V DeWalts are still going.

>>1488532
This is why sometimes I almost debate Kobalt or a better HF brand with batteries <$50. Rigid’s batteries are pretty reasonable too.

I have some Menard’s brand drill set I got from my dad and only one 1.5Ah battery for two tools, but I can’t bring myself to pay $80 for a single 2.0Ah battery. I will probably end up waiting for a sale and buy their cheapest drill kit with two batteries and either toss the drill in the trash or rip it apart for hardware and bits to play with.

[Anonymous No.1488552]

>>1488532
>Then, just when you think you've got enough batteris to get you through a work day without waiting on the fucking things to charge, they change the battery technology, and all new tools only take the new battery. Now, your 1.21 Gigabucks of "legacy" batteries are shit, and you bend over for the lithium enema again.

this isnt the case anymore, the major power tool companies stopped doing this about a decade ago and have no plans to change their battery platforms anytime soon, hell Ryobi has been using the same ONE+ batteries since 1996.

the previous thinking was that when new technology came out you would buy new tools and have to buy into a new battery platform to replace your old stuff. however tool companies found that every time they change platforms they are opening up customers to cross-shopping with other brands and they might loose a sale and potential long-term customer. its better to keep the same platform for as long as possible and keep people wrapped into the same tools and batteries.

[Anonymous No.1488578]

>>1488469
I'm sure you said that about mobile phone makers 10 years ago.

[Anonymous No.1488582]

>>1488546
its nice to have an anonymous imageboard without it being cluttered up by tripfags but life is like that sometimes
>on the bench
put them on the wall already fuck.

[Beppu !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1488587]

>>1488582
Old style DeWalt 18V won’t even go on the wall like that, would have to mount them at an angle or something.

And even mounted on the wall, it’s still easier having one brand. I’m gonna toss it all one day and buy Milwaukee.

[Anonymous No.1488593]

>>1488267
these german madmen did it now you now you can get your rothenberger cordless crimper with a metabo battery
a few German company's founded the Cordless alliance system early this year.

well i mean its basically re-branded metabo at least for stuff like the rothenberger drills.
or the metabo shop vacs were branded from starmix.

but now if you use metabo you can get a few new niche products metabo doesn't sell with metabo batteries.

[Anonymous No.1488594]

>>1488587
now that the Christmas sales are starting i got the guys in the shop at work to buy a bunch of 20v Brushless Dewalt stuff to replace their aging 18v XRP stuff since their batteries were dying.

they have no idea how much of an improvement the new stuff will be over the junkers they've been using the last couple of years.

[Anonymous No.1488596]

>>1488267
>make another battery "standard"

Get an adapter.

[Anonymous No.1488601]

>>1488593
its actually a pretty clever move of these German company's because they dont have to invest money in battery production and can rely on the metabo battery.
also they get new customers that already use metabo and are happy that they can use their old battery's for their hydraulic crimper.

so rothenberger which makes Plumbing equipment since a long time buys the metabo drill without gearbox and puts their drain snake onto it.
and Steinel wich makes hot snot guns and heat guns can use metabos battery without having the development costs.


now metabo baterys run

>steinel heatguns hot snot
>Haaga cordles floor cleaners
>starmis shopvacs
>eisenblatter grinders metall
>eibenstock grinders concrete

[Beppu !n/ZnkB9jUw No.1488608]

>>1488594
The new batteries don’t really last much longer running the tools than the old XRP (unless you get 5.0Ah+), but it has all the other advantages. They will last more charge cycles, charge faster, and my favorite thing about Li-Ion as a weekend warrior is I can grab a battery that was sitting for 2 months and it will still have 80% charge. It sucks having to wait an hour for the old Ni-Cd batteries to charge when I’m just tryin to put in a couple drywall anchors to hang a new TV or bullshit decor.

[Anonymous No.1488617]

>>1488601
or you could have one brand that makes all those tools with the same battery and give them all your shekels.

[Anonymous No.1488622]

>>1488546
I say fuck all this shit. Im building a spot welder and my own proprietary shit. I'm just making adaptors for all my shit and /diy 5 or 10 packs fore every single cordless tool i have and will have in the future. Fuck this shit.

>5 cordless craftsman tools, charger 2 junk nickle batteries for $10.

Yup, gimme them sumbitches

[Anonymous No.1488624]

>>1488594

Keep all their trash packs and make them 18650 bruh

[Anonymous No.1488625]

>buying battery powered tools
>ever

[Anonymous No.1488628]

>>1488625
>keeps his tools on a leash

cuck

[Anonymous No.1488633]

>>1488624
Milwaukee already uses 18650 cells, their newest 6.0 and 12.0 packs have moved up to 21700s.

[Anonymous No.1489182]

>>1488628
>not keeping your bitch on a short leash

Who is the cuck here?

[Anonymous No.1489243]

>>1488473
>Each car uses the same battery though
try to buy a battery without telling them which case and what polarity or which car you want it for...

[Anonymous No.1489245]

>>1489182

The one being leashed to the wall, I think.

[Anonymous No.1491391]

>>1488267
Just buy an adapted.

[Anonymous No.1491643]

>>1488582
Old style DeWalt 18V won’t even go on the wall like that, would have to mount them at an angle or something.

[Anonymous No.1491674]

>>1488267

>using battery powered tools

once you go corded you don't go back

[Anonymous No.1491676]

>>1491674
good luck finding somewhere to plug in in the middle of a field

[Anonymous No.1491695]

>>1491674
>once you go corded you don't go back
You misspelled cordless.

[Anonymous No.1491696]

>>1488267
>batteries
Plug it in, plug it in

[Anonymous No.1491816]

>>1491676
This.

When I'm routing my skirting boards in the middle of a field 3 miles from my house I often have to spend hours looking for somewhere to plug my tools in.

It's a shame that the majority of DIY is done in the middle of fields, and not in and around houses.

[Anonymous No.1491828]

This corded meme is some top tier trolling. Making people suffer IRL after they try to make a living with corded.

Only corded hammer drills beat cordless ones in some situations.

[Anonymous No.1491856]

You do make a adapter with 3dprinter.

[Anonymous No.1491858]

>>1491816
>>1491828
Poor fags can’t buy a decent generator

[Anonymous No.1491884]

>>1488292
>>>1488288
>More than just drills, the allusion of choice is amazing with power tools. Theyre all the same shit
>allusion
>criticizes billionaire companies
>cannot read or write

Never gonna make it anon

[Anonymous No.1491893]

>>1488267
Already ahead of you.

[Anonymous No.1491902]

>>1491893

[Kevin Van Dam !ZNBx60Gj/k No.1491905]

>>1491858
A 4.0Ah 18V battery is a lot lighter than a fucking generator. In fact it weighs significantly less than the extension cords you would need to run the tool from the generator outside.

[Anonymous No.1491914]

>>1491858
why the fuck would anyone spend hundreds on a generator that weighs a couple hundred pounds and haul it everywhere they go just to use a fucking tool? you corded shills sure are fucking retarded bet you think the earth is flat too

[Anonymous No.1491929]

>>1488292
>>1491884

> allusion of choice
.. indirect or implied reference of choice

IOW: the makers imply (through the multiple off-brands) that you have more choices than you actually do.

For something that probably was an autocowrekt fail, it's surprisingly accurate and gives the reader a deeper thought to the degree of deception than if anon had actually written "illusion." Thus, whether intentional or not, it's still a win.

You don't have to be an asshole to everybody.

[Anonymous No.1491981]

>>1491676
>>1491816

>not having a portable generator

lmfao

[Anonymous No.1492018]

>>1488467
*Changes standards*
*Releases new 19v line because it's one better than 18v*
heh.... nothing personal, kid

[Kevin Van Dam !ZNBx60Gj/k No.1492024]

>>1492018
At least DeWalt sells the adapter. But everybody says they’re not easy to get out of the tool, like you’re supposed to jam it in an 18V tool and leave it there forever. So if you have 4 old 18V tools, they want you to get 4 of those adapters so they stay on each tool.

Good ol’ SB&D.

[Anonymous No.1492030]

>>1492024
I found an old drill that said it would accept 115-125 volts AC or DC, 25-60 Hz. They sure don't make them like that anymore. Not that you'd want to use it much. Probably heavy as hell was only a single speed.

[Anonymous No.1492078]

>>1491893
lmao nigga what is this?
transformers?

TRANSFORMERS: JABSAW IN DISGUISE

lmao nigga, this is the ricer toolkit.
get some fucking LED's and water cooling on that.

LOL

[Anonymous No.1492079]

>>1491981
>>1491858
learn 2 sarcasm you dense fucks

[Anonymous No.1492097]

>>1488543
And this mainly because EU sort of forced them to do it, although apple said ofcourse we will but you have to use our adopter.

[Anonymous No.1492161]

>>1488617

>17 impact drivers and wrenches

[Anonymous No.1492172]

The only thing that change is the external box, all the electronic circuit and the cells are the same

[Anonymous No.1492173]

>>1492161
>no milwakee 18V L-Ion dildo

[Anonymous No.1492184]

>>1488267
>he doesn't use Ryobi
>70+ tools that all use the same batteries and chargers

[Anonymous No.1492209]

>>1492018
see
>>1488552

[Anonymous No.1492212]

>>1488469
Nah man you are retarded son. It's like asking all car manufacturers to use the same fuel which they do.

[Anonymous No.1492246]

>>1492212
>put diesel into a petrol car

[Anonymous No.1492302]

>>1492173
well Metabo is now owned by Hitachi so there may be some hope for you

or you get the milwaukee sawzall adapter from amazon.

[Anonymous No.1492312]

>>1492161
cordless impacts are their bread and butter with the automotive trades these days, they made those impacts in every drive possible (1/4", 3/8" 1/2" hog ring, 1/2" pin detent, 3/4", 7/16" Hex for Linemen tools, 1" for heavy industry) with and without One Key options to fit every possible role they can thing of.

[Anonymous No.1492372]

>>1492246

>Put electricity in gas car
>15 gallons of electrickcity vs a few measly Kw

[Anonymous No.1492652]

>>1491893
I got this set as a Christmas gift a few years ago. Never opened it and I think it's still sitting in my garage somewhere.

[Kevin Van Dam !ZNBx60Gj/k No.1492683]

>>1492161
This is true >>1492312

Having a 1/4” with 100ft-lbs, 3/8” with 200ft-lbs, a stubby 1/2” with 300ft-lbs, and a big 1/2” with 700ft-lbs+ is nice for mechanics who are working with 10 different fastener sizes to get to one part. Just like with ratchets, I’ll have 4 of 5 different ratchets with different sockets on them to do a somewhat simple job. I needed 3 ratchets with different extensions to do spark plugs on a V6 the other weekend. It sucks having to keep swapping sockets with one wrench and never being able to find the one you need because it rolled away.

[Anonymous No.1493708]

I have a 40 volt b&d string trimmer, battery went dead right out of warranty. Bms failed. Can't even buy them anymore. Tempted to buy a bunch of eneloops and see if I can rebuild the pack with them and find another way to charge it. Basically useless now.

[Anonymous No.1493711]

>>1492184

[Anonymous No.1493716]

>>1491929
the multiple off brands are about meeting price tiers. some customers only need a drill to put up one shelf so they only want a cheap drill. then there's the handiman who might use it once a month. then there's the dabler who uses it for a few hours a week. then there's the professional who will be drilling your wife 5+ days a week.

>>1492018
fucking this. they started making a different battery pack stating 20v but its just the same fucking 18v lithium packs inside.

>>1491893
that's a good setup for someone just needs to put in some prefab cabinets or drywall in a shed.

>>1493708
did you try just washing it off? usually they have pretty decent clearcoats on them. anyway, its not like a generic BMS is expensive or you cant just bypass the BMS to the contacts and use an external charger like those used for RC cars.

[Anonymous No.1495365]

Just another reason why air tools are superior.
my work has a pair of Atlas Copco hand drills that have been drilling 500+ holes a day since 1991.
they still work and only have 0.001in of chuck wobble.
while our cordless impacts die in a year like clockwork.

[Anonymous No.1495406]

>>1492030
>25-60 Hz.

what a weird specification

is that for running off generators or something?

[Anonymous No.1495409]

>>1488628
>not hooking a chainsaw engine to an alternator and mounting it to a backpack so you can use your corded tools wherever
Get a load of this faggot.

[Anonymous No.1495411]

>>1488617
LOL no coffee maker, what a useless brand

[Anonymous No.1495412]

>>1495411

>Makita Red

what the shit

[Anonymous No.1496681]

>>1495412
Makita Japan makes their tools in a bunch of different colors, the brand-color-loyalty issue isnt really a thing there.

[Anonymous No.1496718]

>>1488267
DOesnt matter anyway. Fell for the ecosystem meme and bought a dewalt drill i liked, turns out the impact i like also costs 220euros for the fucking bare tool with the stupid plastic case. Fuck that shit.

[Anonymous No.1496727]

>>1496718
>living in Yorup

i can walk into a Home Depot right now and get a Dewalt Brushless Impact Driver with a battery and charger for $99.

[Anonymous No.1496746]

>>1496727
>Impact Driver
>Driver

[Anonymous No.1496771]

>>1496746

and?

[Anonymous No.1496804]

>>1496746
impact driver or impact wrench? drivers are pretty easy to find but a good cordless impact driver is a whole 'nother breed of tools.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/DEWALT-20-Volt-MAX-Lithium-Ion-Cordless-Brushless-1-4-in-Impact-Driver-Kit-w-1-20-Volt-Battery-1-3-Ah-Charger-Tool-Bag-DCF787C1/305573686

https://www.homedepot.com/p/DEWALT-20-Volt-Max-XR-Li-Ion-Brushless-High-Torque-1-2-in-Impact-Wrench-with-Dentent-Pin-Anvil-4-0-Ah-DCF899M1/206387892