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1450130 No.1450130 [Reply] [Original]

Like Jim Bishop but with plumbing and electricity
How difficult is it to acquire the skills to do this? How expensive would it be?

>> No.1450135

>>1450130
It's a dumb design tbo

The chinkin will wear away in ten years on those support columns. Then try tower will come down, most likely in the direction of the longest sun exposure. And since one of the towers support columns are an integral part of the main castle, the collapsing tower will pull the house down with it.

Dude is amazing though. A god amongst men.

>> No.1450136

I genuinely want to do this as well. Myself and my partner are both massive history enthusiasts and I am a reenactor as well, so owning a castle, especially one of my own specification, is literally the dream home.

The cost and skills required largely depends on a lot of factors. Primarily, are you doing it authentically or using modern techniques? Modern cranes, quarrying/processing techniques and construction methods would drop the cost insanely and change (not necessarily lower) the required skill set considerably.

Required skills... pretty much everything relating to modern construction, but you will also need to know how to mine and a lot of carpentry skills if, again, you want it to be authentically built.

Take a look at Guédelon Castle in central France, it is a brand new castle being constructed using medieval techniques.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gu%C3%A9delon_Castle

Also I know the guy fucks up some details but Shadiversity on Youtube does have quite a lot of videos on castle construction methods as well as details on the more subtle features people tend to miss. I think he also quotes a few prices in some videos and attempts to convert it to modern values... if I recall, it comes close to a years allowance for a King or something though.

>> No.1450149

>>1450136
I'm not very hung up on it being a reenactment in any way. I'm interested in a project like this mainly because I think I'd enjoy living in a house I built myself and like the idea of it potentially standing for centuries. I just feel like too many buildings are sort of uncreative and boring

>> No.1450152

>>1450149
A castle might be a bit of a tall-order then. They require a fair amount of maintenance while modern housing is built to last usually. Most castles still standing are only so because they have national charities or private investors actively restoring them. Sorry to burst your bubble bro.

You can still make a pretty awesome house yourself without it being uncreative though.

>> No.1450158

>>1450152
Oh, okay. Just curious, but why are castles so much harder to maintain? I'm having a hard time picturing what that would be (I don't know much about regular houses either if I'm being honest)

>> No.1450189

>>1450130
Pre cast concrete forms. Stack like legos and fill em up. Cobblestone with local river rock.

I'm doing the same mutherfucking thing about 10 years from now.

Building a working draw bridge and moat and all that shit

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>>1450189

>> No.1450210

>>1450191
can you imagine if this was a properly sized image? just imagine

>> No.1450373

>>1450130
Anyone else here remember having seen plenty of "I want to build a castle" threads?

Look I'll do some math for you OP. I've seen a lot of people who want to build castles, and as of now zero built castles. So obviously an extinction level event has dropped survivability to zero.

>> No.1450399

>>1450130
>expensive
not very. rock is cheap unless you are getting the really pretty stuff. land is the most expensive thing.

>difficult
not difficult either. just takes time, lots and lots of time.

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>>1450136
>Myself and my partner

>> No.1450519
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1450519

>>1450130
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Castle

Sold for $1.3m in 2003. Somehow is now worth $30m

>> No.1450530
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>>1450518

>> No.1450599

>>1450519
Literally a McCastle

Not hating, fascinated by its success really

>> No.1450611

>>1450130
That thing is ugly as hell...

>> No.1450616

>>1450210
I dont understand?

>> No.1450619
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>>1450519
it had burned down, just the outer walls remained

>Somehow is now worth $30m
it's now an exclusive spa resort
and the nextdoor neighbor is a pretty cool guy

>> No.1450622
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>>1450373
Nah man. I made a couple threads and they took off. The memes started and i dropped it.

Thing is tho. With preformed concrete forms its just as easy to build a castle as it is any other shape of house. 100% normal modern house. Just shaped like a castle. I imagine i could have it cobblestoned with this rivers androck.

I close on my new house monday and deoending on how things go in about a decade or less we are building a 4 bedroom 4 bath castle. Land is cheap here. We got a house with a great lovation right outside of town and highway frontage. It has increased in value over 8% a year for a decade with 0 real effort put into it. Hopefully we will have enough rental property and this place for a down payment on our castle.

I think it's awesome. Meme or not the route i am taking it's just like building a normal house in a goofy shape.

Modern castles average $400-$600 per square foot. But that is start to finish and most people building a fucking castle arent blue collar amateur entrepreneurs like me.

I have acess to equipment to prepare my own build site, mix my own concrete, build my own driveway, built my own working drawbridge and moat, etc... new homes in vagas not long ago were about $124 per square foot. In theory i will be only having the house "shell" built and cobblestoned or whatever. I'll be doing the rest. This should drastically cut down on cost.

We are starting with a small 1 bedroom mini castle for a weekend getaway / hunting cabin / air bnb.

We'll be debt free in 4 years and can afford to just eat the 1 bedroom castle or sell it and eat the loss if need be.

But honestly, i believe when there's a will there's a way. Who the fuck doesn't want to stay in or live in a fuckin castle?

Heh.

>> No.1450626

>>1450399
I work at a limestone quarry. Can answer any questions.

There is a lot of pretty hilltop scenery here. Land van be had for well under 2k an acre if you take your time. You can get hilltop highway frontage for 3k and acre today.

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>>1450399

>> No.1450630

>>1450599
Meh. Its the new mcmansion. Idgaf. They seem to hold value. Real estate in general goes up in value because on inflation and population.

Its not even a gamble if you can rent it for the payments

>> No.1450704

theres a really big one, like 50k sqft for sale on zillow, its like a million usd. its not nice and stone but is castle shaped ill try to find it

>> No.1450710

>>1450630
Can you please mcshut the fuck up with your shitty Ronald Mcdonald meme. Its rustling my fucking jimmies.

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>>1450130

Some guy relatively close to me was building a castle, and made a pretty good chunk of it, unfortunately he died couple of years ago, don't know what the status of the castle is now. pic related

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Thought about doing this but going with another idea for the outer walls around. Basically use those slide in panels they use along the highway. Create a metal walk way supported from the ground on the backside a little lower and it can work like a castle wall for the most part. Might lower costs a bit and you can make a better inner keep.

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>>1450136
>>Take a look at Guédelon Castle in central France, it is a brand new castle being constructed using medieval techniques.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gu%C3%A9delon_Castle
>
>Also I know the guy fucks up some details but Shadiversity on Youtube
All of the above is cool. The first video of I saw from Shadiversity (unfortunate name) was the one about overhangs on medieval buildings (reasons for them, different styles) and he has a great presentation style and good topics. Can easily skip the LARP stuff.

With brick and stone being so cheap, even huge loads being given away for free on craigslist type sites, who doesn't think about building a fortification from time to time.

>> No.1451121

>>1450191
This shape. A little wider towers. Built on top of a missile silo. Rent out towers as 3 story apartments, turn missile silo into a data center, center for me. End of daydream

>> No.1451122

>>1451121
Big hall in entrance with doors to all the various apartments and a commons area with a library/chilling area also serving as an antiques shop.

>> No.1451783

>I want to build a castle
we have this thread every.fucking.month.

>> No.1452001

With this ability, why don't you goys buy a delapidated stone farm house, and rehab it from there, just using the stone structure as it stands?

>> No.1452193
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1452193

>>1451113
Machicolations!!!!
Honestly I'm more a fort guy but I always romanticized the idea of building a castle or fort out in Arizona using compressed earth blocks or bricks. your biggest issue is going to be coding and permits.

>> No.1452280

>>1450158
Depends on how you build it, but historically due to its role as a military fortification they were built more to resist siege than age. In times of peace the fortifications would frequently fall into disrepair only to be hurriedly repaired later on when things war loomed.

Depending on budget, materials, skill and design a theoretical modern built castle could work fairly well and age in a manner comparable to many of the well preserved stone and brick buildings.

Here's a great PDF that explains bits.- http://www.buildingsofireland.ie/FindOutMore/Maintenance%20-%20A%20Guide%20to%20the%20Care%20of%20Older%20Buildings%20(2007).pdf

>> No.1452413

>>1450130
depends if you wanna build a propepr one or a neoromantic villa because the thing on the pic is a neoromantic villa and no real castle as it hase no real defensive ability against any kind of siege equipemnt, you need atleast one tower and a closed palisade with a moat , otherwise no castle

>> No.1452414

>>1450130
also you need a lot of peasents and a priest

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>>1452414
you only need one priest

>> No.1452797

>americans

>> No.1452801

Can you stack concrete sewer pipe to make a tower?

>> No.1452809

Honestly, I'm hoping that when my wife and I sell our house we have enough money to build a new one on some land. I'm going to try to convince her to do a manor house style with a stone work on the first floor and wood above and those sound walls they set on the freeway as a barrier around the property.

>> No.1453033

>>1452193
Dude. This is fucking sick

>> No.1453034

>>1450710
NO U!

>> No.1453036

Back in my hometown there was a dude who casually built a small castle in a suburban neighborhood. He did little tours and stuff, it was a pretty janky build but he did it all himself. I think the story was that his wife or girlfriend or something really wanted to live in a castle so he built one, but she either broke up with him or died so he just kinda has a castle now. Super weird dude too, got the strangest vibe off him.

Good luck though OP, as janky as his castle was it WAS pretty neat, in a way.

>> No.1453055

>>1451113
This is so fucking awesome. I wish I could build my own castle too. Be the weird uncle with a fucking castle he built.

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1453122

My uncle bought an abandoned farm, where the main house has a fortified tower. Im from europe though.
We had to rebuild much of the interior as the wood stairs were mostly gone.

Its pretty recent though, early 19th century

>> No.1453133

>>1453055
>Be the weird uncle with a fucking dungeon he built.

>> No.1453912

>>1450796
feelsbadman.jpg
You should ask

>> No.1453917

>>1450130
>I want to build a castle
There is no better way to get a girlfriend, than building your own castle.

What sensible girl doesn't want to be a princess or perhaps a queen one day.

>> No.1454152

>>1453917
>There is no better way to get a girlfriend, than building your own castle.
>What sensible girl doesn't want to be a princess or perhaps a queen one day.

sensible girls want to be aerospace engineers.

>> No.1454302

>>1452454
Castles can't be converted

>> No.1454328

>>1454152
Bullshit anon they wanna marry one

>> No.1454329

>>1453122
Fucking badass!

>> No.1454427

My grandpa's cousin (?) owned a XIX Century fortification that was once the border between Argentina and the "desert" (uncharted yet to be conquered indigenous territory). Many battles were fought there to repel the indian raids. I believe it fell to ruins now, sadly.

>> No.1454436

That guy collected all the rocks himself, didn't pay for them

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>>1450519

>> No.1454612
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my dad bought 10 acres off a guy for $200
because it was worthless for farming, it was a cliff side. a little dynamite, and 200 tons of limestone later, it weren't so steep.

>> No.1454613

>>1454440
see
>>1450619

>> No.1454626
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>>1454152
no Girl "wants" to do math, your crush has a penis

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>>1454626

might be rare

>> No.1454633

>>1454631
Is dat some faking the moon landing? Obviously they hired her because they needed jibberish code that nobody could dispute, and they quickly deleted it all so it couldn't be reviewed later.

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>>1454633

yes. this.

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>> No.1454653
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>>1454634
"The Apollo flight software Ms. Hamilton and her team developed was truly a pioneering effort," said NASA Administrator Sean O'Keefe. "The concepts she and her team created became the building blocks for modern 'software engineering.' It's an honor to recognize Ms. Hamilton for her extraordinary contributions to NASA," he said.

https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11Hamilton.html

>she and HER TEAM
>believing in the moonlanding
lol

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1454658

wimmyn r smarter than men on avrage

>> No.1454662

>>1454612
You're dad is smart.

>> No.1454665

>>1454642
I had a female professor once (never again)
she could not comprehend logic.

She insisted that "on or off" was two questions.
is it on
is it off
I explained to her 20 different ways that IF it's not "day" THEN it's automatically "night"

to pass her class was a challenge, you had to add stupidity into your code.

>> No.1455101

>>1450189
why even bother if you are just going to make cheap ugly kitsch bullshit

you might as well just get a plastic kids playhouse castle

>> No.1455199

>>1450130
>How difficult is it to acquire the skills
It takes about 4.5 years to become a mason in my country. 1.5-2 years of schooling interlaced with 2-2.5 years of apprenticeship.
But if you can place rocks or bricks and put mortar on them, you can build a castle today, it'll probably just turn out shit.

>How expensive would it be
Depends on the size and availability of materials. Find prices for new brick/stone building in your area and calculate what a castle-sized house would cost based on that.

I've looked at building a single castle tower to live in, loosely based on the goose tower of Vordingborg castle. Materials would be about 7 million kroner (~1 million USD), labour would be my own or another 1-2 million kroner, but permits would make it impossible cause the local government doesn't like people building fortified positions.. Especially not if they're not handicap-accessible.

>> No.1455203

>>1450130
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mcQfP8k51s

>> No.1455210

>>1455199
>but permits would make it impossible cause the local government doesn't like people building fortified positions

>tfw there are still places in my province where there is no zoning and permits are not required
good feels

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>>1455210
Same.

>> No.1456279

>>1450130
Don't build it exactly like he did. I went there when I was ~14 and couldn't stand up straight in most areas. Plus, Jim built it as an "art piece" instead of a structure designed for human inhabitation, so it wasn't really made for longevity.

>> No.1456289

>>1450519
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Castle
>30m
it says listed. meaning highball figure. says 8.7m. you'll probably find its mostly to do with the land value. its currently basically a motel. so that's not really a strange figure.

>>1450619
its just a dinky motel with a gimmick and 8.7

>>1450622
pyramid of sneferu was made out of concrete. well...primitive reconstituted limestone. you dont even need preform. just stack forms.

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>>1450519
I moved to Kentucky a few years ago and had no idea this existed until one day I drove past it. That was probably the most random thing I have ever encountered in my life.

>> No.1456407 [DELETED] 

>>1454658
"Never try to understand women; women understand women and they hate each other".

>> No.1456408

>>1455199
>Especially not if they're not handicap-accessible.

Why they hell should my private residence be mandatory accessible?

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>>1456369
I lived on Shannon run just down the street from the castle.

>> No.1457008

>>1456661
>>1450519
>>1450622
damn, that is some of the most grotesque shit I've seen
makes me want to puke

>> No.1457014

>>1456661
that's disgusting

>> No.1458249
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>>1456661
The homeowner is probably happy with it but I just feel disappointed looking at it.

>> No.1458265

>>1457008
>>1457014
>>1458249

america has lots of awesome people, but it also has MILLIONS of people who adore shit like that and can't wait to hear what some Kardashian moron did today.

>> No.1458434

>>1458265
that's almost as bad as the millions of people who watch sweaty men play grab ass kicking and throwing, or hitting balls around. They act like they never seen it before, again and again screaming like girls, and cheering like fags.

>> No.1458440

>>1450519
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Castle
This looked really familiar, and I was trying to figure out when I drove by it, then it clicked. I passed right by it when I went to Kentucky Last year to watch the eclipse from the point of greatest totality. Got stuck in a traffic jam literally right where that pic was taken from.

>> No.1458473

>>1450136
Lmao I knew for sure that you get all your knowledge from shadiversity the second you mentioned Guedelon. Faggot go read a book and get off /his/

>> No.1458475

>>1456661
>>1457008
>>1457014
>>1458249
Am i the only one who unironically likes the "castle"?

I mean take into consideration how he didn't have a couple of hundrets of years to build it and how he's probably not even super rich.
Hell, he may have built much of it himself.
While it doesn't look as amazing as old castles i like the idea and don't think it deserves the kind of hate it gets.

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>>1458475
Construction on the castle was started by Rex Martin and his wife Caroline Bogaert Martin in 1969, after they had returned from a trip to Germany and were inspired by the architecture and many famous buildings they had seen in Europe. The finished project was to have seven bedrooms, fifteen bathrooms, a fountain in the driveway, and a tennis court. In 1975, the Martins divorced and left the castle unfinished.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Castle

The Castle sold earlier this year, for $8.7 million

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>>1458482

>> No.1458600

>>1450519
I use to live near that. When it was worth only 3m, it was effectively an empty shell. The guy who built it went bankrupt halfway through and only had finished the exterior. It's also in bum fuck no where, basically a giant farm on the side of the highway outside of versailles ( a small town) inbetween lexington (a semi major city). They had been trying to sell it for years before it was finally sold, the people who bought it must have dumped a ton of money into it.

>> No.1458795

>>1458600
Rex Martin did not go bankrupt. He was a very successful developer. This was only one of many properties he owned.

He paid to have the castle built for his wife.
Construction on the castle stopped when he caught her sleeping with the construction workers.

>> No.1458895

>>1450130
went to that castle as a kid

>> No.1458931

>>1454665
The implication of "if not yes than no" is what answers the second question. She was right. if you can get two data points fron one question then it is two questions presented as one.

>> No.1458943

Been there like 50 times, live fairly close. Its not a poorly built as alot of people here are saying, but it is very sketch.

The shit Ive seen people do at this place Im surprised no one has at least gotten hurt, yet less died.

>> No.1458949

>>1458931
In entropy and information theory the smallest unit of information is the bit.
The two questions are equivalent, one adds no new information to the other.
You aren't getting two data points from one question if the answer is either true or false, that is one data point.
You're full of shit, the teacher was full of shit, and of all the math and logic classes I've taken we were never presented with this sort of superfluous piffle because it's bullshit.

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>>1458931
>if you can get two data points fron one question then

you have trouble dealing with reality.
trust issues maybe
fear of abandonment

one mental illness or another

>> No.1458962

>>1458949
Is the lightbulb on: yes
1)The lightbulb is on
2)There is a working power source
3)Light is being cast

Is the lightbulb on: no
1) The lightbulb is not on
2) There is no light being cast

>> No.1458966

>>1458962
false
1)the light bulb is blown
2)but the power is on
3)damn why is there no light
4)there should be light damn it

One question one answer
redundant questions can be helpful
but the light cannot be both on and off at the same time.
Schrodinger forgot to feed his cat. It died and the guilt drove him insane. His theory was a coping mechanism to help him sleep at night.

>> No.1458972

there is no "maybe" in logic
logic is a tool. logic is infallible

4 + 5 = 9
is 4+5 really 11 does not need to be asked unless you have loose screws in your head

>> No.1458976

>>1458962
single point of data, multiple effects or deductions

Binary data type
NOT(on) = off;

>> No.1458977

>>1458962
The subject is not about lightbulbs, it's about bits.

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>>1458977

>> No.1458981

Female professors are the reason we have so many rape accusations on college campuses.

The teach "no means no" but they don't understand what no means.

Do you consent to having sex?
Is a yes or no question.

Getting drunk, taking off all you clothes, dancing on the table, and sucking cocks, is more than just an implied "yes"
Screaming "yes yes yes" does not mean "no"
multiple yesses do not cancel each other out.

>> No.1458982

>>1450191
I don't think I'd need a canon to break into that castle.! Just a window remover or lock pick.