/diy/ - Do It Yourself

[Anonymous No.1376846]

Which one makes the most sense?

[usfag No.1376851]

>>1376846
>shitposting loudly

I have been converted to accepting that uk is master race, and wish I could plug a 240v welder into my living room, but I can't, or run a 240v service to my shed without like a thousand bucks in copper.

[Anonymous No.1376852]

>>1376846
the worst is the italy.

[Anonymous No.1376856]

>>1376846
Denmark's is pretty kawaii.

[Anonymous No.1376859]

>>1376851
Would agree. Australia here. Wile we have 240v here our plugs are pushing the limit a bit closely when it comes to their full rating. Our 15 amp plug is the same as our 10 on the current carrying pins and I don't think much of that idea.

Bongs tfw I agree.

Our 3 phase plugs I'd rate as some of the best however.

[Anonymous No.1376881]

>>1376846
Italian. Kids have only 1/3 change of poking into live wire, white German or french plug is 1/2.

[Anonymous No.1376883]

Knowing Israel it's probably theirs

[Anonymous No.1376916]

>>1376846
US, but only when the ground plug is on top like it should be.

[Anonymous No.1376919]

>>1376846
japan trying to be most efficient

[Anonymous No.1376922]

>>1376916

Explain why pls

>>1376919

You have problems.

>HURR DURRR britfags use 220v and in plug fuses because they can't afford copper
>REEEE G-Type plus waste so much material (plastic) they are environmentally unfriendly

[Anonymous No.1376923]

>>1376922
When the ground pin is on top, it winds up being the first pin to be exposed when the plug starts slipping out of the socket.
That means that anything that falls onto the plug is more likely to make contact with the ground.

>>HURR DURRR britfags use 220v and in plug fuses because they can't afford copper
>>REEEE G-Type plus waste so much material (plastic) they are environmentally unfriendly

Nigger what?
I'm pretty sure he was just joking about the fact that the Japanese design has 3 sockets per panel.

[Anonymous No.1376945]

>>1376846
all of the big chunky ones are shit because of there size. anything ungrounded is obviously worse. any that sit inset are worse. north america is probably win

[Anonymous No.1376946]

>>1376851
I got a few 220v 30A plugs wired up for $400 by an electrician.
also, Bong 220v doesn't have the amps for any decent welder or equipment.

[Anonymous No.1376951]

>>1376946
As i was told their rings are usually rated for 30amps.

Of course it possibly to get 240 here, but it still requires more wire

[Anonymous No.1376960]

>>1376846
all the receptacles with their ground pin naturally on the top are the best. The code here RECOMMENDS that the receptacle (North America) be placed 'upside down' with ground on the top but it is rarely ever done. It is more important to keep the plug looking like a face rather than keep the consumer/user safe
I do really like how they put the switches on the receptacles in australia though

[Anonymous No.1376961]

>>1376852
We are starting to use the german sockets now.

[Anonymous No.1376962]

>>1376846
I gotta say I like the Australian one, if for no better reason than liking the idea of a switch built in.

[Anonymous No.1376991]

>>1376960
>>1376962

[Anonymous No.1377003]

>>1376960
>all the receptacles with their ground pin naturally on the top are the best
Does this prevent the electrons form flowing backwards and shocking the user?

[Anonymous No.1377010]

>>1376960
>It is more important to keep the plug looking like a face rather than keep the consumer/user safe
It's more that every single stupid thing like this where they were too cheap to put 6" of cable before the brick becomes frustrating as fuck with upside down sockets. Even just 90 degree plugs are worse and more likely to pull out with the cable going up instead of down.
It's been tradition for long enough that everything is designed to work with them that way and having them the opposite is a concrete annoyance vs the nebulous safety benefits.

I'm curious how much difference it makes, surely someone has done the statistical analysis, what the difference in likelihood of housefires/electrocutions is between the two. I doubt it's that significant, personally.

[Anonymous No.1377011]

>>1376960
>>1376923
holy shit you autists. How many times in your life did you just happen to drop a butter knife directly parallel and almost touching the wall so that it fell on the spades of a plug and tripped a breaker? Plus when you go to unplug the plug, your index finger is on the bottom, and is always closer to the wall. If you grab a half unplugged plug your index finger is going to hit whatever contacts are towards the bottom first. I always thought that's why they were installed right side up. Also IDGAF about the code, thats made up by some asshole like you with too much time on their hands thinking about what is theoretically best in la-la land.
I don't know how pic related is legal though, I got fried when I was a young boy by one of those where the outlet was lined up with the pull chain and someone trapped the chain between the plug and socket.

[Anonymous No.1377027]

>>1376846
UK is the obvious one. Almost too safe.

[Anonymous No.1377029]

>>1376951
They are rated for 32 amps usually

[Anonymous No.1377061]

Australian plug. Not only is it switched, but it's impossible to transpose active/neutral in non-earthed plugs, meaning a connected appliance like a toaster can't have the elements at mains voltage despite being turned off.

Comes in 10, 15 and 20 amp varieties - plugs will fit into higher amperage outlets, but not lower capacity ones, so you can fit a 10 amp plug into a 15 or 20 amp socket, but you can't fit a 15 or 20 amp plug into a 10 amp socket.

[Anonymous No.1377064]

>>1377061
Those are good points however I regard our 15 amp plugs as poor due to them having the exact same cross sectional area for the current carrying terminals as 10 amp.

The kiwis have a good sized 15 amp plug in their caravan parks but its not interchangeable with 10 amp. Also its not prone to bent pins and its robust.

[Anonymous No.1377087]

>>1377064
The wire carrying power to the plug for both a 10 and 15 amp plug will more than likely have a cross sectional area of 2.5 to 4 mm - so even allowing for insulation in newer plugs, you've still got a cross sectional area of around 6mm in each of the actual prongs.

[Anonymous No.1377110]

>>1377087
Well I've never had any problems with too much current on our plugs, though I guess 240V helps. But I think triaxial cable would be a better way to go solely for omnidirectional plugs. Also really safe, especially if you have the centre ground shield stick out more and open apertures on the neutral shield and live core on the socket. Be a right pain to manufacture though.

[Anonymous No.1377112]

Aussie-expat Eurofag here, I'm happy that I don't have to constantly flip those damn mini switches on each outlet, although I suppose they are useful for isolating appliances over holidays you'd otherwise have to unplug.
The fact I can flip around a plug 180° is a nice bonus because a powerboard has outlets so close to one another and some appliances jostle for physical form factor space otherwise, which flipping them around can minimise.

[Anonymous No.1377116]

everything not recessed is garbage

[Anonymous No.1377129]

>>1376923

I meant for you to explain why the US is best

[Anonymous No.1377133]

>>1376852
How can someone be this fucking wrong

[Anonymous No.1377250]

>>1376960
Your full of shit it requires the ground pin to be down.

[Anonymous No.1377253]

>>1376960

[Anonymous No.1377259]

>>1376951
32 amp actually,

I'm a British electrician BTW

[Anonymous No.1377263]

EU has the superior fit, no floppy shit barely plugged like many of the others, it's a perfect fit like benis in the vag. And that's a factual observation.

[Anonymous No.1377266]

>>1376846
If I was a child I would like to insert my finger in #4.

[Anonymous No.1377268]

>>1376923
yes i often dangle my gold chain in between the plug and socket when unplugging shit.

[Anonymous No.1377311]

>>1376846
LOL aus and china have the same design.

[Anonymous No.1377341]

Brazil/Switzerland is perfect desu.

[Anonymous No.1377344]

>>1376846
Whichever one is already your countries adopted and accepted standard... because changing would be a massive pain in the ass...

[Anonymous No.1377356]

>>1376846
Denmark's outlet is cute! CUTE!

[Anonymous No.1377370]

>>1377311
It's smart from the ausscunts to have that since they're being bought by the chinks

[Anonymous No.1377378]

UK one can fit Euro plugs with a little modification, which is cool.
(Just jam the fucker in)

The most common one in Euroland is the 'France' one.

[Anonymous No.1377391]

>>1377378
You want to know, how I know that you live in France?

[Anonymous No.1377392]

>>1376846
The only two good answers is the Schuko and the Switzerland plug. Anything that cant take a Euro plugg is automatically garbage, and so is anything that isn't recessed.
UK needs to end its life, outdated garbage unfit for modern production. There is literally nothing good about it, but UK fags will still defend it.

[Anonymous No.1377394]

>>1376846
finland because it looks happy

[Anonymous No.1377397]

>>1376881
no, center is ground, the 2 side ones are both live

[Anonymous No.1377430]

>>1377391
i want

[Anonymous No.1377431]

>>1377397
top is phase
center is ground
bottom is neutral

only phase is live.

[Anonymous No.1377433]

>>1376846
Am i seeing this right? Russians dont have ground?

[Anonymous No.1377440]

>>1377344
With the eventual popularity of in home batteries, in-home DC wiring will follow and a wall plug standard will have to emerge.
I only hope it's some variant of USB and it standardizes the world.

[Anonymous No.1377463]

>>1376846
>the China one looks like slanty eyes

lol

[Anonymous No.1377468]

>>1376846
for maximum portability, all electrical outlets and data lines should just be spring-loaded clips like you see on older speakers that hook up with plain wire instead of a coax line or some bullshit HDMI mess

[Anonymous No.1377480]

>>1377468
>for maximum portability
and maximum house-burning-downing

[Anonymous No.1377553]

>>1377468
So I can sit there and make sure I'm holding all 8 wires in my cat5 right every time I plug it in?

[Anonymous No.1377561]

Japan for usage of space, Britain for safety, EU for ease of use.

[Anonymous No.1377581]

>>1376846
Switzerland/Brazil
>keyed
>small plug footprint

[Chink colony No.1377597]

>>1376846
Funny how China and Australia is the same, really make me think

[Anonymous No.1377600]

>>1376945
>inset are worse
they naturally prevent contact with live conductors, unlike UK or US, which need extra plastic over the rear of the pins
UK plug makes a good make-shift weapon :P

Also - since US uses pins out of thin flat sheet, it's really easy to bend. You will NOT bend solid EU or UK plug pins...

[Anonymous No.1377601]

>autism thread successful

[Anonymous No.1377602]

>>1377600
>since US uses pins out of thin flat sheet, it's really easy to bend

Easy to bend back too. Which can be really handy if your sockets are 100yo and fit like wizards sleeves. Just put some angle in the pin and you get contact.

[Anonymous No.1377603]

It must have:
A working earth available at all times.
Polarisation (differentiation between phase & neutral)
High power (3kw or greater)

UK, Denmark & French are the only ones that fit those requirements, and the French are disqualified for their retarded earth pin design.

[Anonymous No.1377605]

>>1376946
>also, Bong 220v doesn't have the amps for any decent welder or equipment.

Sure it does. Just run a radial circuit for 20A or more.

[Anonymous No.1377610]

>>1376846
Caribbean here, Our house was wired up with Americuck sockets as standard but we dual wired British ones as well due to being British and therefore having bong electricals that we brought over. I have to say there is no contest, the bong sockets are way safer, The American plugs were easier to accidentally pull out and they don't have that off switch which is useful when you have little kids running around. We never used the American sockets.

[Anonymous No.1377615]

>>1377064
"Caravan plug"

That's called a commando you fucking tool

[Anonymous No.1377631]

>>1376846
Can only compare Aus and UK ones as I haven't used the others. The Aus ones are okay but the pins can bend quite easily so I'd have to say UK. Only problem with the UK one is if you have an idiotic house mate that decides to unplug the heater at night and leave the cord on the floor with the plug pins pointing up...... you think stepping on lego barefoot is bad, those ground pins are fucking lethal.

[Anonymous No.1377642]

>>1377603
Don't forget the Aus plug, it can certainly handle 3kW.

[Anonymous No.1377656]

>>1376846
The u.s. example is installed upside down.

[Anonymous No.1377669]

>>1377600
>Easy to bend

Never had this issue, they use some pretty hard steel that's really hard to bend without pliers.

[Anonymous No.1377674]

As a bong, I like mine. I can trip over a cable and it won't come out of the socket and electrocute me from the puddle of tea

[Anonymous No.1377694]

>>1377669
>, they use some pretty hard steel that's really hard to bend without pliers.

Well, no, they don't. If they did it would break after being bent twice. Go step on an american plug and come back and claim that the flat prongs don't bend easily. Of course, they can be straightened easily too, with your girly hands.

[Anonymous No.1377708]

>>1377610

>Caribbean here, Our house was wired up with Americuck sockets as standard but we dual wired British ones as well due to being British and therefore having bong electricals that we brought over.

Interesting how you claim that your one countries standard speaks for the rest of the Caribbean.

In St. Vincent (where I live) the standard is 220v G-Type for residential applications. Recently you will find some 110v type B outlets but these homes or businesses have a transformer and a separate pannel for 110v but that is not standard. We run 50hz and the supply is 220v unless you are an industrial/commercial consumer and then you are likely to have a 480v 3phase supply

In industrial settings they use whatever hooks up to the equipment where they bought the machinery from.

In Barbados the standard is now type B which is the grounded American plug but before it was type A because they basically have been following the American standard for decades.

[Anonymous No.1377710]

>>1377694

Ok, I looked around some, and I agree that some are fairly stiff, like the one on the right, where each flat prong is a solid piece of metal, while the one on the left that I easily bent is made of two layers of stamped brass.

Sorry about the potato image quality.

[Anonymous No.1377719]

>>1376960
Not going to lie was replacing outlets this weekend and was really confused about why the instructions were upside down

[Anonymous No.1377743]

>>1377694
I'm Mexican, I use them daily and step on them frequently, only ever damaged a couple.

[Anonymous No.1377760]

How the hell can none of these have ground pins

[Anonymous No.1377763]

>>1377603
>and the French are disqualified for their retarded earth pin design
What's retarded there?

Good thing is that you can make a plug that's compatible with both that and the german socket. An earthed plug that'd be compatible with Danish sockets and anything else is not possible.

[Anonymous No.1377775]

>>1376846
Japan and Russia are un-earthed?

[Anonymous No.1377801]

>>1377763
>What's retarded there?

The combination of male & female. Make up your damn mind.

>>1377775
дa. So are older European & American 2-pin sockets.

[Anonymous No.1377808]

>>1377801
Oh, I see your problem here...

[Anonymous No.1377824]

>>1376846
EU/German/Korean.
You can turn the plug both ways and the who gaps hold it better under preassure.

[Anonymous No.1377830]

>>1377631
I had my finger crushed under a lump of concrete and it was far far far less painful than when I Stood on a British plug barefoot.

[Anonymous No.1377841]

>>1377801
>The combination of male & female
And so what? It's not that you could plug it in a wrong way or short something because of this.

[Anonymous No.1377844]

>>1377775
>>1377801
>дa

Isn't the EU/German type widely used in Russia nowadays?

[Anonymous No.1377861]

>>1377830

It's only the first world normies who have never been in an adverse situation think that.

Same with the whole Lego meme. Yes they do hurt. But not to the same degree as many other things that could happen to you even in a residential area.

[Anonymous No.1377862]

>>1377841

His society is overrun with people who identify with non-binary genders and switch it up every 5 mins so they whole transgendered and blurred gender thing really triggers him.

[Anonymous No.1377866]

>>1377844
Old Russian socket had holes close together by ~1mm, so a little push and you couldn't almost tell a difference.( apart from old Russian plugs, that were cut up to fit into Schuko)

[Anonymous No.1377880]

>>1376846
Israel wins, unfortunately
>ground on top obstructs falling debris, preventing contact with live and neutral
>angled prongs make it less likely that plugs will work their way out in the first place

[Anonymous No.1378135]

>>1377775
>2018
>not using a double-insulated toaster

[Anonymous No.1378149]

>>1377808
>>1377841
Look, Pierre, you just have to accept that it's a lazy design that only a French "engineer" would consider acceptable.

(The actual problem is aligning the pins correctly, and of course the perennial favourite "Hotel socket with a bent earth pin." Having a pin permanently attached to the socket is a terrible idea.)

[Anonymous No.1378152]

>>1376846
>Which one makes the most sense?
They all "make sense," whatever that means. The best one is UK, hands down.

[Anonymous No.1378179]

>>1377392
>and so is anything that isn't recessed.
this. Everybody talking about ground pin up or down... how about a design where it is physically impossible to touch the live wire while (un)plugging something. If you get a dangling chain jamed in a german socket you deserve it.

[Anonymous No.1378181]

>>1376946
That's why you use 3 phase in that case. The only machines i use on 220 are my bandsaw (doesn't need much power anyway) and a small bench grinder.

[Anonymous No.1378186]

>>1378179
>physically impossible to touch the live wire while (un)plugging something
I daresay the shielded terminals on these plugs do that job without a problem.

[Anonymous No.1378190]

>>1376846
The Swiss/Brazilian one looks like a brainlet wojack meme.

[Anonymous No.1378191]

Bottom left is the absolute perfection

[Anonymous No.1378192]

>>1377830
>>1377631

But the sockets have a switch, you don't need to unplug your plug.

[Anonymous No.1378196]

A comparison between UK and frog plugs: I have yet to see a horribly cheaply made UK plug, there's a distinctly cheaper type but they're not at all deficient. Nothing made out of cheese that a tug on the wire will pull apart after a couple of years.

[Anonymous No.1378261]

All you boys complaining about low US voltage don't know you can just link up 2 separate phases for double power. 555-COME-ON.

[Anonymous No.1378335]

>>1378261
all from same breaker.

[Anonymous No.1378346]

>>1376852
You're kidding right? Look at the Russian one..

[Anonymous No.1378371]

>>1378346
ungrounded version of the standard schuko socket.... was used widely in europe in the 50' and 60's - my home has few of those ungrounded ones, but I tend to not use them since I most off the sockets have been rpelaced with gorunded ones afterwards, and I'd imagine is still the standard stuff in russia since they don't give a shit about electrical safety anyways

[Anonymous No.1378394]

There should be one that's shaped like a vagina.

[Anonymous No.1378442]

Swiss here. We use both swiss and german ones. Like...german ones can be used in swiss ones.
Also what's funny is that german plugs work in russia but not the other way as the russian is a bit thiccer.

[Anonymous No.1378515]

>>1378196

>I have yet to see a horribly cheaply made UK plug,

Gimme a couple hours and check your (you)'s

[Anonymous No.1378518]

>>1376846
why is nippon ungrounded?

[Anonymous No.1378531]

>>1378518
the russia is not too.

Could they ground the neutral.

[Anonymous No.1378532]

>>1378196
Molded plugs are usually okay but I have bent the pins on some before (not enough to make them unusable, just enough to make it a pain in the arse to insert and remove them). Rewirable plugs are a nice idea but some can be made from really shitty plastic.

[Anonymous No.1378548]

>>1376851
Running single-phase 240V doesn't require any more copper than running 120V.

[Anonymous No.1378560]

>>1376846
For my normal day activities I wish I had the Swiss plugs

[Anonymous No.1378566]

>>1376846
I live in Pennsylvania USA

what is this?

[Anonymous No.1378569]

>>1378566
A 120v 20 amp receptacle.

>>1378548
I think that was his point. In the US you'd need to run hot+ hot-, N, and G. In the UK you'd just need hot+ N, and G. But I guess if you want your full 32 amp then you need a big honkin' wire, or to double up your hots anyway to make the ring.

[Anonymous No.1378571]

>>1378569
240V doesn't need a neutral in the US. The voltage runs across the hots.

[Anonymous No.1378573]

>>1378571
Okay, but now how do I plug in my lights in my garage?

[Anonymous No.1378730]

>>1378566
>>1378569
Nope, just double checked that's a 240v 20 amp socket. If it were a 120v 20 amp socket it would have one vertical pin and one combination pin so as to accommodate a 120v 15 amp plug. 240v 15 amp plugs use two horizontal pins and 240v 20 amp plugs use one horizontal pin and one vertical pin just like the 120v 20 amp plugs, but the vertical and horizontal pins are mirrored so you can't plug a 120v appliance into a 240v outlet or vise versa.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEMA_connector#/media/File%3ANEMA_simplified_pins.svg

tl:dr
US 20 amp plugs and sockets are mirror images of each other.
horizontal pins mean 240v, vertical pins mean 120v.

[Anonymous No.1378782]

>>1378560
>>1378566
>no switches
Here it's technically not up to OHSA standards to unplug an appliance without turning it off at the wall first, not that anybody follows that of course. In fact janitors always leave sockets turned on at the wall after vacuuming, which bugs me a little but it's probably just the autism speaking.

[Anonymous No.1378784]

>>1377561
>Britain for safety
>steps on plug

[Anonymous No.1378800]

>>1378784
I meant the insulated ground pin but whatever.

[Anonymous No.1379644]

>>1376846
Germany, for obvious reasons

[Anonymous No.1379691]

Have used the UK, French, German and USA plug.

Got to say the German one is superior. The way it fits, design, its practical.

[Anonymous No.1379718]

>>1376883
Why? Because the US probably paid for it like everything else they own.

I wonder if it’s designed so it will work even if the merchants strip some of the copper out of the lines.

[Anonymous No.1379754]

>>1376846
The one that makes the most sense is going to be whatever the dominant one in your area is, so you don't get fucked over with having the wrong one or needing a bunch of converters.

I'm so glad I live in a big enough country that I never have to worry about shit like this. It's just like with measurements- sure, metric might be "better," but not by enough to try and force the change, and the US is big enough that being different isn't a problem.

[Anonymous No.1379760]

>>1378782
Where's 'here', dear?

[Anonymous No.1379762]

>>1376846
whichever one is for 3-phase power to residences

[Anonymous No.1379824]

>>1379760
Noo zeeland

[Anonymous No.1379826]

not the italian, for sure.

[Anonymous No.1379835]

>>1377433

In mother Russia, earth grounds you.

[Anonymous No.1379917]

>years ago brazil had like 10 types of plugs in use
>for some kinky reason we also have multiple legal tensions
>110,220, 3something the list goes on
>sometimes on the same fucking city
>retarded government instead of picking the most popular plug or chosing the best of 10
>takes the swiss plug, changes it just a little bit so swiss shit can`t fit in
>make 2 versions of it, one with hole sligthly smaller,so retarded monkeys do not burn their TVs and stop being mind controlled
>the plug is fucking directional
>their excuse for picking some random plug from fucking helvetia is ``lel ground pin, be s4fe monkeys``
>most brazilian hovels are not grounded because wtf is safety
>still forced to adapt to this shit standard
>there are still cities with 220 on one side of the street and 110 on the other

[Anonymous No.1379920]

>>1379917
Next on EE Fuck Ups
>why monkey land chose to use 60hz even though all the neighboring countries use 50hz
>how paragay has to literally produce energy at OUR powerplant at 50hz, sell it to us and we have to convert it to HVDC to use it

[Anonymous No.1379927]

>>1379920
There is no discernible difference between running an alliance of 50Hz vs 60Hz. You may notice transformers running a little more efficiently at 60Hz, but otherwise I can't see any problem.

[Anonymous No.1379929]

>>1379927
we buy most of their power
:(

[Anonymous No.1379933]

>>1379920
Japan works just fine splitting the country in half, 50 and 60 hz

[Anonymous No.1379946]

>>1379929
Yes but it doesn't matter what frequency you use, provided its uniform within the grid. 60Hz is better anyways.

[Anonymous No.1379992]

>>1378371
Body grounding is for bitches.

[Anonymous No.1380041]

>>1379946
The iguazu falls power plant thing has 1/2 of the turbines to paraguay running at 50Hz, he is referrring to the fact that paraguay sells virtually all the power to brazil, to do so brmonkeys have to convert the power to DC using a massive and expensive HVDC station.

[Anonymous No.1380054]

You could jab a fork straight into the Italian one

[Anonymous No.1380059]

>>1378784
You know how many British people have ever stood on a plug?
1) our sockets have switches, you can turn it off without unplugging
2) we have twice the voltage, fused plugs and typically ~30A per circuit so adding sockets is never a problem for the infrastructure.
3) i personally am not a fucking retarded mongoloid tink that leaves shit lying around to stand on
4) we don't have constant blackouts here so I can see where I'm going because the lights are on.

So no i don't know anyone that has ever stood on a plug.

[Anonymous No.1380061]

>>1380054
That's a plus to me. Brings IQ average higher than better education.

[Anonymous No.1380067]

>>1376846

[Anonymous No.1380071]

>>1380067
>two pin

[Anonymous No.1380074]

>>1377866
Not sure whether the holes were closer together. What I had noticed is that holes in old soviet sockets were of smaller diameter, yet not all of them were made by the same tolerances - in some of them you can push an EU plug in with a little force, in some you can't without causing the fragile oldschool plastic crack.

>>1378442
>german plugs work in russia but not the other way as the russian is a bit thiccer
Didn't you mean the other way around?

[Anonymous No.1380119]

>>1377431
>what is alternating current

[Anonymous No.1380138]

>>1380119
>meaningless greentext makes me look smart

[Anonymous No.1380198]

>>1380067
Literally "insert penis" the socket.

[Anonymous No.1380227]

>>1376923
hahaha

a problem which the european variant has solved long ago. the plugs are firmly secured into the outlets so they wouldn't slip out as they would in the US, apparently. since the plugs go into the outlet you wouldn't be able to touch the pins. even some of the plugs have plastic on the pins all the way to the contact point

[Anonymous No.1380243]

>>1376846
Swiss/Brazilian is perfect

[Anonymous No.1380352]

>>1376846
The chinese/aussie and the isreel one

Because they're polarized, you can't mix neutral and live ever.

Very usefull to add an extra layer of safety

[Anonymous No.1380362]

The SK/EU plug is standard in Norway at most new installations. Nice receded socket so the pins are almost never under load or stress even when tugging at the cord or shoving your TV table into it by mistake, ground pin is on OUTSIDE and contacts before live so no sparks, and you can use the ungrounded Swiss and Danish but not Russian. Seems pretty much best, though I like how UK has such THICK pins.

[Anonymous No.1380363]

>>1380054
You know, a three tined fork is called a trident. Your non-cake forks have three tines?

[Anonymous No.1380401]

>>1380352
And british, because they don't let you use appliances missing a ground pin (whether plastic or not).

[Anonymous No.1380411]

>>1380362
I get sparks all the time plugging in live equipment. Fortunately though the sparks are deep in the recess

[Anonymous No.1380427]

>>1380067
>you might not like it
>but this is what peak performance looks like

[Anonymous No.1380472]

>>1376846
British. because i'm British but also because you don't have access to the live and neutral before you stick the plug in, the earth pin is slightly longer therefore goes in first which lifts the gates on the live and neutral allowing the live and neutral pins to enter the socket. so it's good safety wise especially for kids. also the plugs don't just rip out of the walls easily if you snag a cable. fairly easy to rewire and they have individual fuses in them. I think US don't have fuses in their plugs at all? just rely on the breakers?

[Anonymous No.1380527]

>>1380472
The german schuko design offers what you've described as well, except there aren't any fuse in the plugs.

[Anonymous No.1380547]

>>1376846
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEfP1OKKz_Q

[Anonymous No.1380619]

>>1380547
>on the live and neutral pins insulation extends

[Anonymous No.1380660]

>>1380619
Old plugs don't have these.

[Anonymous No.1380680]

>>1380547
the german is better in regards of the shutter mechanism.
you'll have to stick something in both of the holes in order for them to open, which is less likely than having to shove ONE thing into the ground.

[Anonymous No.1380683]

>>1380680
you need to stick something in two holes to get shocked on the british one as well
really makes you think

[Anonymous No.1380711]

>>1376846
Italian obviously.
Three poles, straight inline. Doesn't get much more logical than that.
No wasting space with fancy configurations and it doesn't make TOO strong a connection like schuckos.
If you trip on an italian power cord it just disconnects. I tripped on a schucko terminated cord plugged into a schucko outlet once and it ripped the socket clean out of the wall.

The only thing I'll give to bongs is that their plugs are polarized and that's a good thing, the appliance can make sure to always interrupt the live and not the neutral.

[Anonymous No.1380735]

>>1380660
Not really relevant, those plugs are pretty rare these days and if you're worried you can always replace them.

[Anonymous No.1380737]

>>1376846
The British up to a certain extent, though I feel polarized sockets give a false sense of security given how often they are mis-wired.

[Anonymous No.1380784]

>Be French
>Always thought it was logic to have the ground sticking out since it's all I saw as a kid and teen
I'm shocked that some don't even have a ground, we stopped having these decades ago
Am I grossly overestimating the importance of grounding appliances or is electrical outlet security one of the few technological domain France is a world leader in?

[noko No.1380789]

US, of course.
And my master electrician taught to install ground up for the safety of falling plugs or other things including fingers.

[Anonymous No.1380838]

>>1380784
Not that many things really need it. The problem is you build a no ground outlet and 40 years later people are trying to plug in crazy shit that was never intended.

For example, there's a lot of 1930's-1950's houses here that only have 2 prong plugs in bedrooms and living rooms, and now they're being rented out by college students who plug computers in with cheap adapters and blow fuses. The electrical code changed, but this stuff gets grandfathered in and nobody wants to pay to rewire it.

[Anonymous No.1380842]

>>1380838
>Not that many things really need it
Technically, however it is a very important safety feature on a lot of things.

[Anonymous No.1380881]

Britbong here
Sometimes when I plugged something into the sockets while in vacation in America I saw a flash of electricity. Usa a shit

[Anonymous No.1380929]

>>1376846
which one is least painful to step on in the middle of the night?

[Anonymous No.1380933]

>>1376852
y italy is bad, but look at israels lol. you can't plug it in within 5 seconds i bet.

[Anonymous No.1380954]

>>1376846
Swiss. Can't put it in backwards so the phase is always on one side. it is also low profile so it is compact and tidy.

[Anonymous No.1380983]

>>1380954
I hear it's got pretty low current carrying capability.

[Anonymous No.1380984]

>>1380983
European standard has different connector styles for high current. You don't want to connect a lathe with that dingy little connector, you use these

[Anonymous No.1380985]

>>1380984
And these for 400V 3-phase connection

[Anonymous No.1380986]

>>1378149
almost impossible to bend

[Anonymous No.1380987]

>>1380983
Your TV, computer, even your electric lawnmower (if you are THAT kind of person) won't exceed the current limit of those household connectors. If you have an electric stove you usually connect it directly, but you can still buy the industrial connector at any store. Also I heard electric stoves don't draw so much power anymore, at least ceramic and induction plates are much more efficient.

[Anonymous No.1380988]

>>1380683
heh

I meant that you have to stick something in both of the holes at the same time or else they won't let the thing pass through the mechanism

[Anonymous No.1380991]

>>1380789
this is sarcasm, right?

>>1380881
that could happen anywhere if the thing you're plugged in has a high wattage and starts running the moment you plug it in. vacuum-cleaners, electric heaters, hair dryers etc.

[Anonymous No.1380995]

>>1380991
If the thing has a bigger coil it takes some time to build up the magnetic flux, until then there is a high current draw and sparks in the connector.

[Anonymous No.1381065]

>>1376856
Can't disagree with that desu!

[Anonymous No.1381203]

>>1380059
>1) our sockets have switches, you can turn it off without unplugging
my devices have a switch where i can turn it on and off without reaching for the socket
>2) we have twice the voltage, fused plugs and typically ~30A per circuit so adding sockets is never a problem for the infrastructure.
>4
implying im a burger

[Anonymous No.1381359]

>>1376960
>The code here RECOMMENDS that the receptacle (North America) be placed 'upside down' with ground on the top

ITP: LIES
T
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:

L
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E
S

There is NO official code recommended orientation in the USA.
PLEASE
L
E
A
S
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do not take my word for it. A simple search proves it.

[Anonymous No.1381445]

>>1380987
>ceramic and induction plates are much more efficient
Not when you press the BOOST button with a slab of electrical steel atop your induction stove.

>>1381203
>my devices have a switch where i can turn it on and off without reaching for the socket
umm
>soldering iron
>laptop or phone charger (want to unplug due to switching audio/radio noise that happens even when the PSU is doing no work)
>trouble light

[Anonymous No.1381575]

>>1381445
>soldering iron
you bought shit
>laptop or phone charger (want to unplug due to switching audio/radio noise that happens even when the PSU is doing no work)
you bought shit

[Anonymous No.1381607]

>>1380986
I must have stayed in the same hotel rooms as The Hulk, then.

[Anonymous No.1381628]

>>1381445
Are you saying you leave your soldering iron plugged in while unattended?

>trouble light
Those have switches on them.

[Anonymous No.1381788]

>>1381575
>soldering iron
>shit
Well sure I'm not shelling out for a station.
>laptop or phone charger
>shit
How? There isn't a single wall-wart I know of that has a switch on it, nor any one I've tested that doesn't still produce a whine in the magnetic field. In fact, the whine on some power supplies gets louder when they are unloaded, though those ones are particularly bad.

>>1381628
>Are you saying you leave your soldering iron plugged in while unattended?
No I'm saying I have to wrestle it out of my power strip because the strip itself doesn't have switches. If it had a switch on it or on the power strip I'd consider leaving it plugged in and turned off, but since my bench is strewn with paper it's not the best idea.

[Anonymous No.1381835]

>>1381575
Show timestamp of laptop and phone charger with switch.

[Anonymous No.1381839]

>>1380984
Hahaha imagine having to put this in just to make a cup of tea! Plug and socket together is quite large.

European plugs, type c is 2A, type f is 16A THEY GO IN THE SAME FUCKING SOCKET!!! With no protection.
So plug can experience 8x overcurrent.
Europe is finished. Fuck me.

[Anonymous No.1381879]

>>1381788
I don't know what whine you're whining about, but you might have a bigger problem than a switch-less outlet.

[Anonymous No.1381904]

>>1381879
A 9V cheap PSU I bought has an audible whine, but otherwise when I'm messing with antenna geometries there are a few hundreds of kHz of whine that I get even from PSUs with plenty of suppression capacitors and a common-mode choke or two. In fact my electric razor has a very loud switching whine (to an antenna) even when it's switched off on the device, which is perhaps a hallmark of a bad design.

[Anonymous No.1382680]

>>1381575
>>1381835
none of my power supplies have any sort of audible whine

[Anonymous No.1382681]

>>1381788
>>1381835
none of my power supplies produce any sort of audible whine unless i tape them to my ears

[Anonymous No.1382683]

>>1381839
>So plug can experience 8x overcurrent.
except they can't

[Anonymous No.1382687]

>>1381839
you have to step up your game

[Anonymous No.1382693]

>>1382687
Nah, he has to step up his voltage.

[Anonymous No.1382698]

>>1381839
>So plug can experience 8x overcurrent.

I hope you are a fail troll, but in case you are yet another moron who thinks that the supply somehow determines how much current a load draws, it's perfectly safe to plug any device into a socket that has a higher rating, using an adapter if needed.

You can safely charge your phone by plugging it into your dryer outlet if you have an adapter. Circuit breakers do not protect devices plugged in; they only protect the wires, receptacles, etc.

[Anonymous No.1382705]

>>1382681
Ever made crystal radio? Had to deal with power supply noise being fed back into your mains when trying to debug an audio amplifier? Had to do that today, threw some modern electrolytics between the DC rails and that sorted her right out, may want to solder them into the PSU since I guess the existing caps are a few decades too old.

>>1382698
Well it's more like plugging a ciggarete-lighter to USB charger directly into your car's battery with no fuse: It's not going to draw any different current, but if something does go wrong, it goes wrong much worse. To some extent this is ignoring the fact that most modern power supplies will have overcurrent failsafes of some sort within them, but circuit breakers still exist for a reason. It's possible that the 2A appliances over there don't have very rigorous overcurrent protection because they rely heavily on the protection of the sockets themselves, but it is doubtful that this will make much of a difference.

[Anonymous No.1382710]

>>1382705
>but circuit breakers still exist for a reason
that reason is not protecting your device, mate
circuit breaker protects
1. your in house wire from burning inside the wall
2. from shorts, however a short in your device will have like >100 Amp in a common household, for as long as the breaker needs to trip AND interrupt the arc
the device will be ash either way

[Anonymous No.1382897]

>>1382698
The problem isn't plugging the phone charger in the dryer outlet, it's plugging the dryer in the phone charging outlet. There is apparently an unfortunate compatibility in ex-USRR countries.

[Anonymous No.1383455]

>>1380881
> Britbong here
> Sometimes when I plugged something
> into the sockets while in vacation
> in America I saw a flash of electricity
> . Usa a shit


English is not your first language m8

[Anonymous No.1383477]

>>1376856
>stick a fork in me, onii-chan!

[Anonymous No.1383483]

>>1377011
I didn't even know these existed until I bought my house and found one installed in the basement.

Threw that fucker away

[Anonymous No.1383510]

>>1376846
American. 60 Hz cycle 120v . and all houses have it the same even when traveling to diverent states ( equivalent distance of UK civ going to France of Spain) and Canada and Mexico use it too so no need to by wall plug converters.

[Anonymous No.1383645]

>>1378573
240v lights dumbass

[Anonymous No.1383654]

>>1380881

That's either the capacitors in a PSU charging up from empty (they're a dead short for a split second before they charge) or a large inductor (like that in a motor) before it reaches magnetization.

It happens in all types of plugs. Just because it's not visible in some styles doesn't mean it's not there.

[Anonymous No.1383665]

>>1383477
hah fuck you

[Anonymous No.1383712]

>>1380711
>TOO strong a connection
limp wrists out

[Anonymous No.1383769]

>>1383712
>explains that he tripped on the cord and it ripped the socket out of the wall
limp walls out

[Anonymous No.1384009]

>>1383769
>things that never happened.flif

[Anonymous No.1384394]

>>1384009
Then you should have refuted that point instead.

[Anonymous No.1384488]

>>1380472
The US plug has the exact same thing, it's just not a standard

[Anonymous No.1384740]

>>1381359

REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Get out of our shit-post thread, fact-fag!

[Anonymous No.1384743]

>>1376960
third pin is useless anyway

[Anonymous No.1384772]

>>1382698
Breaker in the distribution unit is sized for the wires in the wall and socket. It protects the wires and socket.
Fuse in the appliance is sized for the appliance. It protects the appliance.
Fuse in the plug protects the cable from the wall to the appliance.
Oh you don't have a fuse in the plug?
So consider a fault condition in the lead of the appliance, before the fuse in the appliance, allowing enough current to overwhelm the appliance cable but within normal limits of the wall/socket/breaker.
What is the outcome?
Cable is unprotected, overheats, house burns down.

So in summary: You are a retard mongoloid dipshit.

Don't offer to do risk assessment for anything ever you are shit at it.

[Anonymous No.1384775]

>>1379835
Underrated

[Anonymous No.1384843]

>>1384772
so consider a fault condition that neither blows your fuse nor exceeds your cable's current rating. can your fault effectively dissipate a couple hundred watts of heat?

[Anonymous No.1384896]

>>1384843
I don't understand what point you are trying to make
The fuse in the plug is sized for the cable of that plug.

The fuse in the plug will protect the cable from dangerous overcurrent, the breaker in the panel may not, certainly at 8x the current rating it's unlikely.

To answer your question (i think?) the cable will happily dissipate heat below the current rating of the fuse, that is its only job.

[Anonymous No.1384922]

>>1384896

[Anonymous No.1384986]

>>1384922
The cable is protected the fuse has done it's job what is the problem exactly?

[Anonymous No.1384987]

>>1384986
your house burns down

[Anonymous No.1384990]

>>1384987
The job of the fuse in the plug isn't too not burn your house down, it's too protect the cable from overcurrent.
Drawing shows cable is not stressed,fuse has no reason to operate.
House burning down isn't fault of fuse,fuse is doing his job fine.

The same could be said of wiring in the walls, maybe you pin up a picture and nick the cable insulation providing a low current path, just as easy to do in fixed wiring as appliance.

Making up retarded edge cases doesn't make fuse obsolete.

If you don't like overcurrent protection in your house get rid of it, wire your house directly into the substation see if i care.

[Anonymous No.1385079]

>>1384922
Getting a ~100Ω fault is very unlikely. It will be all or nothing.

>230V
Officially it's 230V where I live but wherever I test it I get 240V.

[Anonymous No.1385138]

>>1376851
Thousand bucks in copper? Try aluminum now that they fixed it. (AA-8000 alloy, use the goop, torque properly). Pointless on small wire because too little of the cost is in mineral value, but for #6 or larger it's the way to go.

[Anonymous No.1385142]

>>1377603
USA NEMA 6-15 is 3600W.
USA NEMA 6-20 is 4800W. So we win.
Both have standard formfactor and install with common 14/2 or 12/2 cable.

[Anonymous No.1385150]

>>1378566
240V 20A socket. NEMA 6-20. 4800 watts. USA wins!

Also available in a double that fits in the usual places. Wires with common 12/2 cable.

[Anonymous No.1385249]

>>1385142

>>1385150

I have a sneaky suspicion, that these 2 friends are actually the samefriend.

call me paranoid

pic unrelated

[Anonymous No.1385265]

>>1376846
wew, usa fags should have kept their standard instead of developing a billion different plugs for the same thing. our single phase GPOs are backwards compatible. the ground pin just changes slightly. so you can use a 7680VA, 3840VA or 2400VA GPO with regular appliance but cant plug a 7680VA load into a 2400VA outlet.

[Anonymous No.1385266]

>>1385265

[Anonymous No.1385275]

>>1384922
you're thinking in DC son. cable faults generally cause arcing. when the wire heats up, the plastic melts. one of two things happens. you have flame retardant cable as per the electrical standard and it melts doing either, wires contact each other or the wire burns to a crispy shell which keeps the wires still separated.

[Anonymous No.1385299]

>>1385079
>Getting a ~100Ω fault is very unlikely. It will be all or nothing.
in which case my circuit breaker will happily trip, quite possibly before any fuse blows

t. no ring circuits

[Anonymous No.1385301]

Schuko masterrace, everyone else can go home

[Anonymous No.1385313]

>>1378192
but people are people

[Anonymous No.1385316]

>>1385299
>in which case my circuit breaker will happily trip
My point exactly, though I hoped it was implied. The only time you get a dangerous fault that won't trip the breaker is when you are the resistor. GFCIs are ideal for this purpose, or so I'm lead to believe, but they only work when you're shorting the current to ground, not to neutral. This is a main reason why grounding appliances with metal enclosures is important, and why the existence of ungrounded toasters baffles me. Are burgers just less serious around mains because they use a lower voltage?

[Anonymous No.1385325]

>>1385316
a GFCI (which is a horribly misleading bullshit term in my opinion, RCD or RCCB is much better) will trip if current of its own circuit is bypassed past it, it needs not be through ground, but can also be a through the neutral of another circuit.
though if you have a dead short, it's more likely that (only) your regular circuit breaker will trip.

[Anonymous No.1385331]

>>1385325
Well I was thinking more of an RCD in a breaker slot as opposed to an RCD outlet, so it would cover all other neutrals. Not really sure the point of individual RCD outlets, though if they're much more sensitive to deadly currents that makes sense, since I imagine the radiation incident on the internal chassis of a microwave oven would cause a significant current. I should measure it some day.

[Anonymous No.1385344]

>>1385331
if you cover all circuits with a single RCD, a current from line to neutral will never trip it. but what's the probability of a line to other-circuit's-neutral fault anyways?
RCD outlets don't cover the wires in the wall, i.e. you're fucked if you happen to drill into a wire and don't happen to have caused a short circuit at the same time.
the lower trip current (enabled by the more constrained coverage) is definitely desirable, i bet they'd be used much more often if they didn't cost >100 € a piece here.
i don't think that the radiation itself inside a microwave oven creates significant residual currents, if at all. the currents should only occur in the chassis.

[Anonymous No.1385431]

>>1376923
What makes you think something wouldnt collide with the plug from underneath?

[Anonymous No.1385435]

>>1376960
AC to DC wall warts plugged in upside down is not safe.

[Anonymous No.1385442]

>>1377610

New houses in the US are more often being wired with GFCIs and AFCIs, so there are off switches.

[Anonymous No.1385446]

>>1378566

Probably intended for an air conditioner.

[Anonymous No.1385806]

>>1385265
>>1385266
Spooky plug

[Anonymous No.1385964]

>>1376846
The bongs have, the best socket. The Australian one isn't bad its just to easy to bend the prongs pulling out.

[Anonymous No.1386021]

>>1377615
Commando is a trademark I believe specific to MK
Which is no better than caravan plug because its not precise but everyone knows what you mean anyway.
To be technically correct it's IEC 60309

[Anonymous No.1386051]

>>1386021
>Commando is a trademark I believe specific to MK
Fuck, I gotta file for fair use if a lawyer catches me without any underpants?

[Anonymous No.1386083]

>>1386051
No you missed the point which is that you just sound like a mongoloid correcting others with misleading information

[Anonymous No.1386105]

>>1386083
No I wasn't the guy replied to, I was just butting in with a joke. I've never even heard of the Commando trademark.

[Anonymous No.1386112]

>>1377694
Not everyone is a morbidly obese pound lard ass like you. It's not normal to bend steel when you step on it.

[Anonymous No.1386114]

>>1376846
england besto

[Anonymous No.1386118]

>>1381445
That's the only way I ever use my induction stove, any other method doesn't seem to warm the pans at all.

[Anonymous No.1386351]

>>1386118
Are you using copper-bottom pots?

[Anonymous No.1386371]

>>1376846

Why does Israel's look like a dead palistinian face?

[Anonymous No.1386374]

>>1380881

brits just can't handle manly american power

[Anonymous No.1387555]

>>1376846
32 amp socket

[Anonymous No.1387571]

The best

[Anonymous No.1387754]

>>1377341
Agreed.

[Anonymous No.1387781]

>>1377642
The standard one can't, 10A rated * 230V nominal = 2.3kW rating. There is a 15A variant, but it's not that common.

[Anonymous No.1387799]

>>1387781
>10A rated
Bah, You pull 20A and it doesn't care. Got the 15A variant for the kitchen stove, but it's got the same size live and neutral pins anyway, just a beefier ground pin.

[anon0815 No.1388277]

>>1387571
Hehe good one.

[Anonymous No.1388533]

>>1378261
Your double the power is our regular power

[Anonymous No.1388541]

>>1383455
He said he's British, so he doesn't have to know English, most of Brits nowadays don't

[Anonymous No.1388815]

>>1377440
My home is wired for 220ac 220 and 380v DC. Get big sparks drawing the DC plugs

[Anonymous No.1388924]

>>1387571
What voltage is that for?

[Anonymous No.1388932]

>>1388924
250 V AC

[Anonymous No.1389285]

>>1376960
>It is more important to keep the plug looking like a face
Those are sockets, Anon.

[Anonymous No.1389296]

>>1378261
>He thinks the difference between two phases is double a single phase
Whew lad

[Anonymous No.1389298]

>>1378800
Ground pin isn't insulated.
Live and Neutral aren't always part insulated either.

[Anonymous No.1389304]

>>1380411
Thank god that current spikes can't damage your equipment.

[Anonymous No.1389307]

>>1389296
It depends on your friendly neighborhood transformer. Many residential us transformers split the high voltage phase 180 degrees.

In large apartment complexes its likely they are fed with three phase from the street, so in that case you would be correct.

[Anonymous No.1389314]

>>1380991
>>1380995
Not if the socket is turned off when the appliance is plugged in.

[Anonymous No.1389317]

>>1379920
U lose 10% efficiency using 50hz on 60hz equipment.

Hvdc for long transmittion FTW fuckwad. You can't beat it.

[Anonymous No.1389318]

>>1383477
l-lewd

[Anonymous No.1389328]

>>1386112
>obese pound lard won't bend steel girders
What did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.1389330]

>>1389307
>Many residential us transformers split the high voltage phase 180 degrees.
That, I did not know. And I wish I still didn't know, hopefully these are well marked up.

[Anonymous No.1389333]

>>1389330
We always talking about 240v ac, do you think we are just rounding up from 208?

[Anonymous No.1389426]

>>1389317
We don`t use 50 hz ever, it`s just that if we had the same fucking frequency as the rest of los hermanos it would be fucking easier to join the grids when needed.

[Anonymous No.1389462]

>>1389333
>Not sure if serious.
Single phase 240v leads to cross phase of 415v (assuming three phase supply). Where did you get 208v from?

[Anonymous No.1389472]

>>1389462
consider this abomination

not that anon by the way

[Anonymous No.1389477]

>>1389472
That's one hell of a cancerous delta phase set up.

[Anonymous No.1389478]

>brazil
>abnt makes up a new outlet standard
>three pins
>one live, one earth, one neutral
>technically fine, if not inconvenient since everything else uses a nema power plug
>years go by
>turns out some people thought you were supposed to connect live and neutral to the middle plug alternately

When you buy a new house in Brazil you need to take the cover off every outlet just to check if it was wired by a baboon

[Anonymous No.1389482]

I'm thinking, /diy/... since high voltage AC can carry more power using less current, why can't we use a 10 to 1 transformer and use 1270v to power lighting fixtures rather than just 127? We could then use just AWG 28 wires. It would be much cheaper.

[Anonymous No.1389490]

>>1389482
Because then you need insulation rated for such voltages. Everything in your house would need ceramic insulators to standoff and your switches would be four times the size they are now, and if you bumped into a light and broke it, you'd be electrocuted.

[Anonymous No.1389492]

>>1389478

[Anonymous No.1389582]

>>1389490
Not to mention needing 100 times the LEDs in series or 100 times as long an incandescent filament, and the fact that you couldn't make a flyback converter since there isn't any cheap transistor that can switch at 1300V. Nice for capacitive energy storage though.

[Anonymous No.1389647]

I want to buy my friend in japan a gift and was going to get an adapter from US plugs to Jap. Would keeping one of those in use for long periods of time be dangerous or anything? It's for a night light for her daughter. I assume it should be fine, but I just want to be sure. This just seems like a good place to ask something that's probably simple.

[Anonymous No.1389672]

>>1389478
>check if it was wired by a baboon
Well it is Brazil after all.

[Anonymous No.1391855]

>>1389478
>wired by a baboon
I thought they ate those?

[Anonymous No.1392570]

Apparently America is the reason the Chinese, Australians, and Kiwis have this type of plug.

[Anonymous No.1392572]

>>1392570
Why is that?

[Anonymous No.1392575]

>>1392572
That pic is apparently an American outlet from like 1918. It was made cheap with all the prongs being flat and easy to make. Australia adapted that design.

[Anonymous No.1392600]

>>1392575
huh