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my fucking oil pan drain plug will not come off, my socket wrench pieces are all too large or small, my crecent wrench slips off and the weird expiremental tools i got just for this worked just as well as id thought they would.

i also used vice grips but forgot to included them in the group photo

>> No.1249202

>>1249200
Buy a socket that fits for three bucks?

Probably at the same time you return that abomination

>> No.1249203

>>1249200
go buy a set of metric/imperial sockets that you don't have.

>> No.1249204
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1249204

>>1249200
heres the bolt in question. you can see its not completely stripped but we're getting there.

>> No.1249205

>>1249204
yeah you've fucked that bolt. next time get the right fucking tools or just go to a mechanic

>> No.1249206

Jesus. You might have to find a socket thats a little small and pound it on there now just to fix that fuck up. Go buy the right socket set for your car and a new bolt

>> No.1249208

it will continue to round if you use the wrong size tool.
heat it up. WD-40 or PB-Blaster.

and it maybe supposed to have a plastic seal under it?

>> No.1249209
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1249209

>>1249206
better off with pic related

>> No.1249211

are you even turning it in the right direction? should go counterclockwise.

>> No.1249224

>>1249211
This, look at the marks
You rounded it off because you were TIGHTENING it

>> No.1249229

>>1249209
>pic related
five piece set at lowes for $20 - bargain

>> No.1249231

Youve fucked it beyond repair mate, my advice would be to drill a hole through it and put a shitty screwdriver in it, then slip a pipe over and go to fuckin town in BOTH directions. When you do get it off put a copper washer on and scratch the direction into the sump.

>> No.1249235
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1249235

Looks like you dickered it pretty good. Remember, if you've got a stubborn fastener, you need to heat it and beat it.

Turning in the correct direction also helps.

>> No.1249244

>>1249211
im aware, i have done an oil change before. this is actually not my car but a friends. he said he was having trouble so i agreed to give it a shot. i suspect there is no gasket underneath.

>> No.1249252

it's a half inch nut on almost all pans you fucking retard. lets say you stripped it, since obviously you did, because obviously you are a retard and turning it the wrong way. Get a smaller socket, hammer it onto the nut and twist.

>> No.1249260

Still waiting to see suggestion of "universal" style socket that works on 6,12, or rounded sides.
>OP fails at all simple solutions, drills and taps new hole for new plug.

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1249268

>>1249260
>universal socket
you mean this piece of shit?

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1249275

>>1249268
No, like pic related, but I guess a more proper id for it would be universal spline socket

>> No.1249315
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1249315

>>1249275
Splines work ok for rounded stuff, might work for OP

These would work better though, they are taiwanese knock offs of the Mac rounded bolt sockets.
They sell them at auto parts stores for like $12

Once the socket "slip" instead of slipping it gets caught in the teeth. They work magnificently

>> No.1249331

in america so many metric wrench and socket sets are incomplete, which is why if your smart you separately buy the missing ones even if its only identification is "china".

then again i have 2 complete sets of box wrenches in standard and metric (they are longer than combination wrenches, thus provide more torque without a cheater). plus a set metric and standard of combination wrenches in 6 and 12 point. same goes for sockets and impact sockets.

it can get expensive, but there are two types of people, those who wipe down their tools before putting them back and those who don't. second hand tools from yard sales and flea markets can save you a lot of money if the previous owner took care of them.

i've seen this before, usually because someone put the oil plug back in with an impact gun, and then someone tries to use the wrong size wrench on it. or because they turned it the wrong fucking way lefty loosey, righty tighty.

>>1249204
OP your best bet is using a pair of vice grips and a hammer and replacing the oil plug. let the vehicle run and come up to temp, that might expand the pan enough. .001" can make a difference

there is plenty of room to get a pair of vice grips on there.

for the love of god, don't put that plug back in when you finally get it out.

>> No.1249332
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1249332

>>1249331
This.
Also I picked up a set of these both standard and metric with more sizes than this set. I've only had to use one on both sets and they more than paid for themselves. Damn 30 year old rust on a truck I inherited ate the bolts out, plus it being serviced at a mill I could tell they enjoyed their impact guns on everything. EVERYTHING.

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1249452

>>1249200

>> No.1249609

>>1249200
six point sockets
six point sockets
The number of buggered up heads I've seen from 12 point sockets...... GAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Also >>1249224
Righty Tighty, Lefty Loosey.

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1249612

>>1249452
Why go half way crazy when you can go full on psycho.

>> No.1249624 [DELETED] 

Maybe cat a slit into the bolt with an angle grinder?

>> No.1249669

looks like you need a six point socket in the correct size. you can measure across the flats with a $1 plastic vernier harbor freight caliper and figure out exactly what size it is either inch or metric. also turn it the correct way as stated earlier

>> No.1249670

also throw away those stupid spline sockets unless you're an aircraft mechanic and work on actual splined bolts. you can get perfectly usable 6pt sockets at an auto store or horrible freight for less than $10

>> No.1249673
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1249673

Looks pretty gacked. You may be able to fit a small pipe wrench on it if all else fails.

>> No.1249675

>>1249670
https://m.harborfreight.com/40-pc-38-in-drive-sae-metric-socket-set-62843.html
would be better than what you have. just throw away their ratchet before you hurt yourself and use their sockets with a T handle or breaker bar.

>> No.1249722

>>1249200
Are you using fucking pvc conduit for your cheater?

>> No.1249759
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1249759

>>1249204
You need a bolt/nut extractor set and a new replacement drain plug

>> No.1250413

>>1249669
THIS.

12-pt sockets mostly exist outside of aircraft use because they are cheap to broach as they wear the broach less.

Also a hand impact driver is useful because the hammer strike forces the socket against the fastener more firmly than pneumatic or electric impacts which only shock and rotate.

Example, cheap including Harbor Freight is fine:

https://www.amazon.com/Lisle-29200-Hand-Impact-Tool/dp/B0002NYDRG

>> No.1250430

>>1249209
This is probably your best bet at this point.

Any more fucked and you're gonna have to start looking at welding a nut onto it.

>> No.1250456

>>1249673
This. A Stillson wrench will get it off if you have room for it.

>> No.1250461
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1250461

>>1249204
>>1249200
Just grind two sides so that your crescent grind can easily grip it. Either an angle grinder or a Dremel will do it. I do that all the time with rounded off bolt heads. It is a simple fix and you can replace the bolt with a new one if you wish.

>> No.1250465

>>1250461
>crescent wrench

>> No.1250476

>>1249204
>drill small hole in the middle of bold
>pass screwdriver through it
>buy new bolt
>change oil
>screw bolt
thank me later, senpai.

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1250479

>>1249200
Looks tight, but a small knipex cobra might get it off. You will need a new plug anyway.

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1250481

>>1250479
Or one of these, might still slip though.

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1250854

>>1249204
Hey bro if you still haven't got it off this is your best bet.
You're going to need a new drain plug just take yours in to Autozone or whatever and buy a new one they're quite cheap.

I have a feeling you were turning it the wrong way with an over-sized tool and stripped it a bit.

Just make sure you are turning the right way and try to give yourself a position with leverage otherwise you will strip the threads on the pan and that's more of a pain in the ass to fix/replace.

>> No.1250886

>>1250476
Hey!! Thems my words!!
>>1249231

>> No.1251143

get a nut that will fit over the stripped head of that bolt and weld the nut to the bolt on the inside of the nut. Thank me l8r

>> No.1251305

>>1249200
get a punch and a hammer. aim it on that flat washer shaped part around the head of the plug you rounded. hit it in a counter-clockwise direction. try and get a deep notch in it so it wont just mush a line through the metal. i've gotten dozens out like this, even when the guy made the head almost completely circle. put a new drain plug in afterwards

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1251335

>>1249204
GAH! The face of my enemy! On a Chevy, right?

I just did battle with that last month. For you other anons, you cannot imagine how nutty this design is.

OP- the trick is vice grips on the flange, which looks like it may be tough on your pan. Seriously though, if you can lock on, it will pop right off.

Before you drain your oil, go to the auto parts store and get a generic replacement with a regular-size head.

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1251344

>>1251305

>> No.1251352

>>1249200
put something like a ballon to get grip on the nut

>> No.1251356

>>1251335
Video on exactly this.
https://youtu.be/s-o_GaBjs8Y

Locking pliers on the flange is the way to go for this issue. That nut is stupidly soft. 100% guarantee it will strip at one time or another. Get an aftermarket replacement - do not replace with the same piece of shit!

>> No.1251360

Welp...

I got into my car to go get a new oil plug at the autoparts store. Started it up and drove it out of the driveway. Idiot like blinked at me and I didnt think about it. I realized my mistake and then shut it off immediately. Had to push it back into the driveway.

Had to get an uber to the auto parts store.
Car seems to run ok, do you think I did permanent damage to it? Its not my car afterall.

>> No.1251393

>>1251360
For real? It'll be fine if that's all you did, but don't do that!

How did you get the plug out?

>> No.1251404

>>1249204
is it a left handed thread???

>> No.1251407

>>1251360
Wait, you got the plug off and forgot that you got the plug off? That's pretty good. Only down the driveway? Yeah, I think it's fine. Probably. Just don't bring it up if the owner doesn't know.

>> No.1251445

>>1251360
i would tell the owner to sell asap

>> No.1251461

>>1251360
My girl drove 2 blocks after her oil pressure sensor blew, pumped out all the oil like an artery. Had to replace the engine a week later, crank shaft seized and snapped, pretty cool looking once I broke the engine down.

>> No.1251478

>>1251360
Next time if the bolt is too tight warm the car up. It will make it easier to get off. But ffs mate get the right tools for the job or don't bother... an oil change is what $50 + materials at a shop if you can't be fucked doing it right.

>> No.1251855

>>1251360
lol did you fuck up your driveway?
I did something similar when I didn't realize the old oil filter gasket was stuck to the car when I placed a new filter shit made a huge mess I was pissed but I still have the car and it's fine the light came on too.

You'll be fine if your engine didn't seize up already.

>> No.1251856

>>1251478
I was feeling lazy last month and I had to get my car smoged.
Figured I'd be fine taking it to valvoline
>$50 bucks with a coupon
>they overfilled it I'm assuming by at least 1 quart
>misfires within the next hour of driving it
>oil in the spark plug wells

tthhanks Valvoline Professionals.

>> No.1251885

>>1251856

i have a buddy that brought his lincoln navigator to valvoline, drained his transmission fluid and added another 5 quarts of oil.

guess who ended up getting a new free engine and transmission...

>> No.1251935

>>1251461
You didt put new oil back in???

>> No.1251937

>>1251935
Should I have?...

Of course I did, oil won't repair fucked bearings though.

>> No.1251959

>>1249204
JB weld a screwdriver to the bolt.

>> No.1253131

>>1251885
Holy shit transmission fluid is red...
and I'm pretty sure you use a 3/8" drive to loosen it on most if not all cars.....
I don't believe this happened

>> No.1253369

>>1250461
>so that your crescent grind can easily grip it
ishiggydiggydoowop

>> No.1253377

>>1251959
Oh you.