Air compressor for pneumatics and painting?

[Anonymous No.1228017]

Hello /diy/,

Buying my second home and this one will require a lot of repainting as it was inhabited by boomers - mostly interior stuff like walls and doors. Was hoping to use a sprayer like the Flexio 590 (need to buy still) and also be able to use air tools like a 1/2 inch impact to work on my car.

What's missing is a good portable (meaning, on wheels - not a pancake) compressor. What's your best recommendation for under $400?

Pic semi related.

[Anonymous No.1228061]

I was looking at https://www.farmandfleet.com/products/1033489-california-air-tools-oil-free-electric-air-compressor.html - is it total sent shit?

[Anonymous No.1228094]

>>1228017
I have a 12gal 1/2hp Craftsman.
My typical tools used with it are:
>blow gun
>air chuck; motorcycles/pickup/trailers
>impact, 1/2"
>nibbler
>brad nailer

It's done well overall in the 7 years i've owned it. Certainly wouldn't recommend any smaller.

What I did two or three years ago, and kind of wish I did earlier, was buy a 10gal portable tank from HFT, $50 worth of fittings/valves, and made that a "parallel" tank with the compressor.
That gave me almost twice the air volume, and the portable tank is real nice for those jobs around the house where I need to secure some floor trim or top off a tire or two but don't want to shuffle around the compressor.

Compressor eats a head gasket every 2-3 years. Starts taking longer to recharge, but a cheap rebuild kit and an evening in the garage along with an oil change it needs anyways gets it fully functional again. Otherwise it's performed well.

Replace the shitty drain valve with a 90° elbow to barb, a short section of hose, and another barb fitting/blowgun. Makes the tank much easier to drain, and you'll do it more often. Shit'll last longer when it's not compressing water.

Wouldn't recommend an oilless, unless you're going for a real small pancake-type compressor with fairly low duty cycle. Knowing you'll be using high-cfm air tools, look for air volume and a good oiled compressor.

After I move, i'm looking into the purchase of a 60gal Quincy or IR.

[Anonymous No.1228178]

>>1228094

What's the minimum CFM I should be going for?

[Anonymous No.1228382]

>using an air sprayer inside
yeah, don't think so

[Anonymous No.1228494]

>>1228382
Doors come off and get painted in garage. Walls...yeah, probably a dumb idea.

[Anonymous No.1228498]

>>1228494
well sure, that's fine to do it that way

I've painted furniture with a $10 gun from HF and the 8gal $100 compressor, but with any setup, the paint dust will go all over if done in an enclosed space

[Anonymous No.1228523]

>>1228178
Not the guy your replying to but you want to maintain 90lbs. Ninety pounds is what it takes to run all my air tools, and I think my HVLP wants 60.
I don't know what the fuck that translates to in cfm though.
>30-35?

[Anonymous No.1228548]

>>1228017

https://youtu.be/fzvLQ201hr0

Watch this guy's videos, get an airless sprayer, don't fuck around and do the prep work.

Did this in my house, I will never, ever use a brush and a roller, even accounting for all the prep time, it went super fast, no brush or roller marks, looks awesome

[Anonymous No.1228629]

>>1228548
That guy is awesome and the results are good, but an airless is a couple grand, isn't it?

[Anonymous No.1228953]

>>1228629
Fuckin rent one. It's like $55 a half day at my local kelly-moore here in CA.

[Anonymous No.1230012]

>>1228953
:(

[Anonymous No.1230233]

>>1230012
>:(
What, you can afford a second home but not an airless? Do I need to explain why using a cup gun to paint your house is a poor idea?
Bro, I'm trying to help. Rent an airless, hose the paint on one wall at a time, and then backroll it.
Trust me, your shit will look good.
Don't use a HVLP gun indoors.
The tips are too thin and sheer the latex molecules, damaging the paint before it even hits the substrate. Also you'll just fill the house in a cloud of paint, the air from the compressor will blow that shit everywhere. Also, the air from your compressor will have oil in it.

[Anonymous No.1230240]

>>1230233
>, and then backroll it.

If you are not a spaz there is no reason to backroll a wall you have sprayed if it was already painted. With new construction some guys backroll so the fuzz on the sanded drywall lays down and doesn't require so much sanding after the first coat.

[Anonymous No.1230254]

>>1228094

>Shit'll last longer when it's not compressing water.
>compressing water

[Anonymous No.1230258]

>>1230254
>>Shit'll last longer when it's not compressing water.
>>compressing water


>yours never fills all the way up with water

that part about getting rid of the pain in the ass drain thing on the bottom and extending it out to a ball valve or whatever is actually a great idea.

[Anonymous No.1230263]

>>1230258
>the pain in the ass drain thing on the bottom

go ahead anon, say it with me: "petcock"

that wasn't so bad now, was it.

[Anonymous No.1230267]

>>1228629
Graco Magnum X5
Retail is $300
Got mine on Amazon, used, it was an unused return, for $185, no box or instructions
Did the inside, outside of my house, did my block wall too
Will be painting my MIL place next month
Just keep it clean and do the maintenance

[Anonymous No.1230269]

>>1230263
>"petcock"

My Pet Cock looks quite a bit different
Really likes being Petted, especially by kids at the park

[Anonymous No.1230270]

>>1230267
>Just keep it clean and do the maintenance

and know where all the filters are and clean them every time. I've worked with more than one experienced painter who did not know there was one in the gun or did not know the machine had another one in addition to the strainer. and they wondered why things were going wrong after a year or so.

[Anonymous No.1230271]

>>1230258

you missed the point. you cannot compress water

[Anonymous No.1230292]

>>1230233
When you put it that way, yeah, guess I'm being kind of a cheap bastard. Thanks bro - sound advice.

[Anonymous No.1230296]

>>1230233
OP here, one last question - if I get the Graco, is there any reason to also have the Flexio? Or should I not even bother getting one of those?

[Anonymous No.1230338]

>>1230240
He's a rookie bro. He should go ahead and be ready to backroll it if necessary.

>>1230296
>if I get the Graco, is there any reason to also have the Flexio
I don't have hands-on experience with the handheld units. If you're doing detail work (cabinets, crown, trim), or smaller projects where you don't require a large quantity, I think that's where they shine.
Maybe someone else can chime in on that because that's a good question.

[Anonymous No.1230347]

>>1230338
>If you're doing detail work (cabinets, crown, trim)

they make all types of tips for airless guns, and you can have a tiny fan or an enormous fan (if you machine is strong enough); you adjust the pressure to suit the paint and the tip.

the tip has two parameters: width of the fan and size of the orifice. you can have an 8 inch fan that sprays less gallons per minute than a different 8 inch fan. the viscosity of the paint or whatever also comes into play when choosing the correct tip.

[Anonymous No.1230569]

>>1230347

Did some more digging, sounds like there's nothing I can't do with the Graco that I could do with the Flexio - but not the other way around. Yes, the Graco would be more of a PITA to use and/or clean on minor things, but I'm not really all that worried about it.

[Anonymous No.1232281]

>>1230569
how big is this house? have rolled two stories with a decent telescoping ladder and a long enough pole. reckon i like to do things the hard way though

[Anonymous No.1232698]

>>1232281
2800 sq ft inside

[Anonymous No.1232877]

>>1230254
>He doesn't compress his water for extreme storage
It's like you WANT to die when shtf.