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Reactors... How?.....Benefit?

How small could you get one if be a back yard reactor and how much of use would it be

>> No.116600

>hasnt googled the subject before making a thread

might as well delete this thread now kid.

>> No.116603
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>>How?
Fusor. Pic related.
>> Benefit
You can bombard stuff with neutrons.

>>How small?
Theoretically, one could make a chipscale fusion reactor. No, it would probably not generate net positive power.

You can bombard stuff with neutrons is pretty much the benefit of these things. This can be useful for figuring out what stuff is made of

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>>116603
Also, you might be able to generate net power with a fusor type device. Though so far no one has managed to do it.

See:
http://nextbigfuture.com/2010/08/los-alamos-inertial-electrostatic.html

funny the captcha is IECdisc array
maybe this will solve the problem?
(IEC stands for Inertial Electrostatic Confinement BTW)

>> No.116627
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There's a company that makes nuclear reactors for personal use. They cost $10mill, can power a small city for 10 years with out needing to be refueled. Self maintaining too. not exactly diy though.

>> No.116629

>>116627
I thought they were still trying to get licensed?

>> No.116630

>>116627

Those look to be lead-cooled fast reactors, and they're single loop despite polonium contamination of the coolant. We can do better these days.

>> No.116633

>>116627

>>nuclear reactors for personal use
>>They cost $10mill

My electric bill was 68 bucks last month. I think I'll just stay on the grid for now.

>> No.116640

DON'T DO IT OP
I built one in my yard
&
Got fused together with a gopher

>> No.116649

Purdue-fag here.

Alumni, actually. The nuclear engineering department has their own reactor, but it's only strong enough to power one incandescent light bulb. The reason is because nuclear grade material is very tightly regulated.

A major U.S. university can't get these materials, what hope is there for the average Joe?

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hahn

>> No.116660

>>116649

That's why you buy a few centrifuges and enrich your own fuel. Can't be hard to modify some blenders.

>> No.116678

>>116597
Pile enough radioactive stuff together until it gets hot enough to boil water, use the steam with a steam engine.

The benefits are radiation poisoning, long term environmental contamination, cancer and jail time.

captcha: Schrodinger toringla

>> No.116681

>>116659

Holy fuck that's hilarious

>> No.116689

>>116681
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwRt74nzRmY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jj8E5wXQJxg

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>>116689
>...to produce Plutonium, the most dangerous radioactive element of all

Tell you what, I'll handle the Pu240 and you handle the U232.

>> No.116783

>>116678
>The benefits are radiation poisoning, long term environmental contamination, cancer and jail time.

Depends how well the reactor is engineered, and whether or not he applies for an Experimental License from the NRC or not!

>>116649
Huh?

KSU's experimental Triga II reactor does 570 MW.

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>>116693
lolled.

People really do not understand radioactivity.

>> No.116816

http://www.forbes.com/sites/alexknapp/2011/08/04/swedish-man-arrested-for-building-a-nuclear-reactor
-in-his-kitchen/
here ya go op.
inb4 this is op.

>> No.116983

capital investment to make this work is way beyond the benefit of using this for a rankine style electrical generation self-use DIY.

also, i don't even think the small amount of U-235/U-238 (unless you want to us Thorium, then there are lots of youtube vids on that) the NRC will allow for personal use can even accumulate to critical mass.

But what do i know, all i've done was ME internship at a US PWR.

>The best benefit from DYI fission would be for public support of new commercial licenses and/or re-initialization of past mothballed/canceled licenses. If a try-hard can do it, then commercial industry with its large capital and federal regulations can do it better, and for the public benefit.

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Behold, the power plant of the future, today! It really generates power; it's lighting this room right now!

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the russians tried out air-cooled crate-sized strontium reactors for remote northern lighthouses. they only output 230w due to not having a real cooling system, and cause problems (of the international regulatory kind) when metal thieves crack them open looking for copper. they also weigh about 1200lbs. a few solar panels or even a small genset would be more useful.

>> No.117055

>>116633
>powers a city
fucking twat fagot

>> No.117064

>>117022
That's an RTG, not a reactor.

It utilizes the natural decay rate heat to produce electricity.

Meaning, the reaction taking place is a fraction of a percent of the material's potential output energy. However, because of this, the lighthouse can operate for centuries off this power source with little to no maintenance.

Voyager 1 & 2 are RTG powered.

They're still transmitting data back at about 120 kb/s

>> No.117089

>>116597

I'd say you can't.
The only suitable idea would be to make an RTG, but you need a lot of highly radioactive waste to use as heat source, and it's not like you're gonna find it in the dump.

I hope, at least.

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>>117022

Dem Murikins experimented with similar devices. There were even radioisotope powered pacemakers. Pic related.

>> No.117100

OP's picture is DIdcot power station 2 minutes from my work !

>> No.117444

Go on. Build one. Good luck with having EVERY government agency ramming in your front door.

>> No.117464

>>116597
http://www.dangerouslaboratories.org/radscout.html
Whenever im bored, i read this story or Oak Island.
http://www.activemind.com/Mysterious/Topics/oakisland/story.html

>> No.117465

A miniature Thorium reactor the size of a refrigerator could probably use a few kg of Thorium and power a house for years.

>> No.117470

If people are at all intelligent, "Liquid Fluoride Thorium Reactor" might be the most important phrase of the coming decades.

>> No.117471

So. Cold fusion anyone?

>> No.117487

>>117471

Nope.

>> No.117492

>>117487
C'mon. You know you want to argue why it can't possibly work. Yet it could, if only ...

>> No.117500

>>117470

I hope you aren't suggesting this for the back yard or do it yourself. That isn't the Fluoride in your mouthwash. Many forms of Fluoride are very radioactive and highly toxic.

Sauce: http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/toxprofiles/tp11-c3.pdf

>> No.117527

>>117500

Fluorides cause communism too.

>> No.117546

>>117500
Well no, obviously. I'm suggesting large scale commercial production, as it would solve our oil/coal/uranium dependency.

>> No.117665

Read "The radio active boyscout". He built a sucsessful nuclear reaction that radiated his entire neighborhood. He didnt think of anything useful. But it does say how he got the materials for all the things he used to build it.
Warning; Make sure it doesnt look like a bomb so the police wont get involved.

>> No.117781

>>117470

Apparently Chinks are going to experiment with it. Assuming something comes out of it, at least the rest of the world has more oil to spend.
It wouldn't be a surprise if France wanted to try it out, too.

>>117665

His reactor was a nuclear reactor only in the sense that nuclear reactions happened in it. It wasn't a power generating device.

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i think the smallest they've made a critical fission reactor is the "slowpoke" reactor. the core is about the size of a beer keg, and the entire containment structure takes up most of a large room

it outputs 1-2kw, which is sorta-kinda the base load of an average home.

fission doesn't scale down well. at all

also fusor is looking to be forever-nonbreakeven according to some recent re-calculations of the reaction.

also also any attempt to made a backyard reactor will be met with the full force of the NRC and the FBI. because they'll assume you're breeding weapons material, because you're going to need to breed a shit ton of material to start with anyway

so basically no. probably never

>> No.117796

>>117500
i love LFTR as much as the next guy but fluorine containment on those bitches is going to be hilarious. this isn't just fluorine, it's gaseous uranium hexafluoride at some points in the process. Corrosive enough to attack plastics AND pretty damn gamma-radioactive. fun!

>> No.117799

>>117781
france has been toying with it for years. their design is a little crude but it get shit done
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F0tUDJ35So&#t=39m11s