/diy/ - Do It Yourself

[Anonymous No.1082983]

I want to bury a shipping container, but I've seen the collapsed sides when others have tried it.

What sort of reinforcement should I weld onto the container I've brought to make it strong enough?

I was thinking that I could buy another, cut the corrugated panels off, and weld it to the original container. Essentially having walls twice the thickness.

[Anonymous No.1082984]

28 shipping containers arranged into a cube will easily give you 1 safe container to live in. The center most container

[Anonymous No.1082988]

>>1082983
In fact if you weld a series of ribs onto the container body, essentially making it like a series of T shaped frames, it should hold

It is still retarded tho

[Anonymous No.1082992]

>>1082983
Instead of a shipping container use a cistern, septic tank, or steel culvert. All 3 of these are meant to be buried. If you go for the septic tank get it new not used otherwise it makes for a shitty bunker.

[Anonymous No.1083005]

use concrete

[Anonymous No.1083021]

>>1082992
Bah dum tss.

[Anonymous No.1083023]

Mods can we please make mentioning seacans a reportable offence

OP fuck off to your containment thread further down

[Anonymous No.1083031]

>>1082992
solid dad joke

[Anonymous No.1083034]

>>1082983
Buy culverts instead . Just as cheap but concrete .

[Anonymous No.1083108]

>>1082983
How deep do you want to bury it?

[Anonymous No.1083111]

[Anonymous No.1083113]

>>1082983
Everyone who wants to bury a container should do so! Follow your dreams and ignore the haters. Your initiative will be rewarded with success!

Numerous containers survived direct hits from 30mm A-10 "Warthog" cannon during the Iraq war. The springy corrugations dissipate energy and the projos bounce off. The immortal Corten steel shells last centuries even without paint, which is only decorative. The US Navy has a fleet of containers at the bottom of the Marianas trench where they dock submarines made from containers for underwater replenishment. Hawaii successfully used lava flow to encase containers to make attractive tourist lodges. Transatmospheric scramjet powered containers have been developed into launch platforms for smaller containers to be used in the post-Brexit EU space containerstation. North Korea replaced their old dug shelters under mountains with containers painted like mountains. (The insides are painted with cute anime characters to boost morale.) Elon Musk prototyped an electric container to replace the Tesla since the container is more aesthetically appealing than the car and has a lot more battery room. The mayor of Detroit has decided to replace his decaying city with containers. The old buildings will be demolished and the rubble hauled off in other containers, loaded onto rafts made of containers, and shipped to China via the St. Lawrence seaway where it will be ground up and the metal residue used to make more containers. US Navy SEALS stealthily infiltrate enemy ports using containers cunningly disguised as containers. Israel is solving the Palestinian problem by storing them in containers. (Germany tried to solve the Jewish problem using wooden freight cars, but the container hadn't been invented yet.) Donald Trumps border wall will be easily affordable if built from containers. Any Beaners who slip in by other routes can be detained in containers then trucked to Beanland where containers will be donated as housing.

[Anonymous No.1083116]

>>1083113
>the container is more aesthetically appealing than the car
This is actually true though

[Anonymous No.1083117]

OP, will you use a Raspberry Pi to make it a smart rape dungeon?

[Anonymous No.1083141]

>>1083111
A green roof is not a buried shipping container.

[Anonymous No.1083148]

>>1083141
>A green roof is not a buried shipping container.

Shipping container roofs fucking rust without proper additional industrial roof coating, and I don't mean the porous chain store garbage. Green roof will eventually pinhole the container roof and that's no great joy to clean and repair.

Much love for my 2x High Cube shop and want more containers. but I copy industrial users who know what ISO containers are really good for. Burial isn't one of those uses.

[Anonymous No.1083173]

>>1082992

kek.

i see what you did there.

[Anonymous No.1083179]

If you have some steel beams welded into the inside as pillars it could hold the weight up. Then having simular ones places like shitty pic related

[Anonymous No.1083180]

>>1083179
To be clear, everything on the front pic is the inside, imagine that being bars like in a jailcell or something

Also OP come back, dont abandon thread

[Anonymous No.1083260]

>>1083113
>loaded onto rafts made of containers

They did this in Korea. Filled the containers with closed cell foam and made cheap ocean going rafts during some construction projects. It worked.

[Anonymous No.1083276]

>>1082983
Its not the walls that are the issue its the roof loading and frankly even if you increased the wall and roof thickness you'll still be fucked. You need to transmit the load through the corners of the container otherwise you're limited to a maximum of about 5mm depth of soil on the roof of the container, and you wouldn't be even able to step on the soil above the container to mow the grass.

[Anonymous No.1083344]

Why do we have to bury the containers?

[Anonymous No.1083355]

>>1082984
Wonderful post wonderful idea 10/10

[Anonymous No.1083356]

>>1083113
>now we have /scg/ - Shipping Container General copypasta
Ffffff

[Anonymous No.1083360]

>>1083344
>Why do we have to bury the containers?

To give guests a comfy shelter to eat all the eggs. They have to eat all the eggs.

[Anonymous No.1083365]

>>1083260
Containers often float away when the ship carrying them sinks. I love containers, but retards keep wanting to bury them. They can't even tell why. If want mancave there's no need for dirt. Just camo the damn thing and they disappear even in suburbia. Pic is my storage 20-footer. Don't buy the little ones unless your space demands it. Forty-foot High Cubes are much better.

Containers make versatile structures. See companies like Sea Box for examples. They make excellent workshops. However they are shit for burial because they are made of SHEET METAL and they are prone to rusting when buried besides having poor structural design for burial. Reinforcing them loses your interior space.

Wanna bunker? Buy a steam-cleaned railway tank car hull. They are amply heavy and often used as culverts by farmers in the US who have large, very wide, custom harvesting equipment.

Outfit like a boat including a bilge. You can perform all the welding with a basic stick machine but FCAW off a suitcase feeder will make life easier.

Container threads make me sad because I can tell serious Anons how to get a useful shop or other structure from one or two or several, but all they want to do is bury shit like a retarded child. Go bury a retarded child instead.

[Anonymous No.1083374]

My dad's friend used steel cross beams to support it.

[Anonymous No.1083378]

>>1083148
My father owns a commercial roofing company and we wrapped ours in white TPO material

[Anonymous No.1083382]

>>1083179
Actually, a container could be good starting material for an underground bunker. First, have a look at how Colin Furze built his bunker (pic related). He basically built a container on site, and put lots of concrete around it. This you can also do with a container. Dig a hole which is 1-2ft bigger than the container in all dimensions. Cast a foundation, set container on it. Put in horizontal pillars to support the walls, cast concrete in the gaps between the container and the hole, rebar material would be nice as well. Reorient inside pillars to vertical to support the ceiling. Put some I-beams on top from side to side. Cast a solid ceiling with concrete, also with rebar material in addition to the I-beams. If the concrete is cured solid, you should be able to remove the inside pillars and have an underground shipping container which is pretty solid.

[Anonymous No.1083388]

>>1083382
Might as well build a basement and forget about the shipping container.

[Anonymous No.1083390]

>>1083382
That is not a container at all. That is a box with welded sheets and support bracings, the hole it is in is carved out from a rocky ground, and concrete is poured below and around and on top of it. It is also arched. It is not a container at all. If any "metal box" is a container you might as well call a rocket a container. Or a plane. Or a tank. Container is entirely unrelated except it is also "metal". The rest is competely different.

[Anonymous No.1083393]

>>1083378
>My father owns a commercial roofing company and we wrapped ours in white TPO material

Damn good idea, and affordable when you get the TPO wholesale.

[Anonymous No.1083396]

>>1083382
All bunker problems have been solved by the military, and the way HAS are built is a fine example. A heavily galvanized internal shell supports the concrete which is poured over it and over reinforcing bar. The liner is convenient for attaching internal fixtures.

Non-galvanized metal is a poor choice which is why it's not used. Precast concrete structures, panels and shapes abound if want some variety.

If you aren't copying military construction, you are doing it wrong. HAS are tested with explosives and bombs. Rape dungeons, not so much.

[Anonymous No.1083426]

>>1083396
>military HAS
Tried googling this but I can't find any relevant info. Can you expand on this, please?

[Anonymous No.1083430]

>>1083113
>the post-Brexit EU space containerstation
What a time to be alive.

[Anonymous No.1083431]

>>1082984
FPBP

[Anonymous No.1083445]

>>1083426
Hardened Aircraft Shelters. There are many designs.

[Anonymous No.1083461]

>>1082983
Shit man this sounds like a good idea for a cheap and solid house. How is it with metals and corrosion and stuff when you put them in the ground, will it hold up?

[Anonymous No.1083507]

>>1083461
Yes. Do it. Follow your dreams. Research stifles creativity. So do facts.

[Anonymous No.1083608]

>>1083365
if you ever repaint that, paint it with a digital (not necessarily pixelated) camo pattern.
They're designed so that they camo at more than just a single or specific range of distances, like traditional camo.

[Anonymous No.1083620]

>>1083365
You posted the wrong image, anon. Theres no shipping container there.

[Anonymous No.1083621]

You can bury it with gravel. Gravel doesn't settle but you'll need drainage. I know someone with a shipping container bunker buried in gravel on a bluff at his ranch. Looks like a tornado shelter from the outside but a club on the inside

[Anonymous No.1085008]

>>1082992
A SHITTY BUNKER!!!!

[Anonymous No.1085218]

>>1083621

>gravel doesnt settle.

[Anonymous No.1085226]

>>1082983
shipping container only structural loading beams on the corners, to make one stronger you need to weld in additional structural support beams.

[Anonymous No.1085696]

>>1083276
Bullshit

I have a storage container that is rated for 26 tonnes of shit to be stored in it.

26 tonnes of earth is more than 5mm.

[Anonymous No.1085707]

>>1083108
At least 3.5 miles down

[Anonymous No.1085709]

>>1085696
Ok, load 26 tonnes of dirt on the roof and then report back and let us know how wonderful it turned out

[Anonymous No.1085713]

>>1083388
>dig pit
>construct comfortable basement
>cover with shipping container filled with junk supplies and hidden hatch
kinda want this now

[Anonymous No.1085714]

>>1083620
almost kek

[Anonymous No.1085895]

>>1085696
Ah, may one inquire at which point did you mix the floor and roof of the container? Is this something that happens often, and maybe even with other structures also?

[Anonymous No.1085941]

>>1082983
I got a degree in construction management. Dont do this mate.
They are not made for these types of loads, I have even lived in a place made of these containers and it was fucking hell. No sound insulation, no heat or cold. It's fucking shit. When it rains its as if you are in a fucking war zone. I spoke to the owner at the time and it turns out it was not even a cheap alternative to traditional methods.

22 Faulkner Cres
North Lambton, New South Wales

if anyone wants to google maps it.

But back to what you proposed.
See this guy >>1085709 And also consider the cost involved with making it structurally sound. This is without going into heat and sound insulation. Just stick to core filled block walls and slabs. It's not worth the trouble.

[Anonymous No.1085950]

>>1085696
In it, not on it, you moron.

[Anonymous No.1085953]

>>1082984
27**, arranged into a PRISM

[Anonymous No.1085955]

>>1082992
>shitty bunker

Kek

[Anonymous No.1086175]

>>1085950
If the floor is stronger than the roof then turn it upside down.

[Anonymous No.1086182]

http://www.residentialshippingcontainerprimer.com/ISO Shipping Containers and Building Code Requirements

[Anonymous No.1086186]

>>1083608
Considered that but didn't feel like masking it for digital cam. Also had one in 1970s US woodland but that side is now obscured by the other High Cube welded to it.

[Anonymous No.1086187]

>>1082983
your mom

[Anonymous No.1086190]

>>1086175
>turn it upside down
If I had a week I couldn't list all the reasons why this is a retarded idea.

[Anonymous No.1086278]

>>1082992
But what if you get cold? At least in the shipping container you can go to one of the corners where it's ninety degrees

[Anonymous No.1086340]

>>1086278
>At least in the shipping container you can go to one of the corners where it's ninety degrees
Why would you be cold if the corner is that hot?

[Anonymous No.1086479]

>>1086340
someone has never walked on a shipping container before. there's always that one spot that is like 800 degrees

[Anonymous No.1086496]

Kek, good luck.

[Anonymous No.1086755]

>>1086340
>>1086479
>Corner
>Ninety degrees
It's a joke lads

[Anonymous No.1086785]

ding ding ding ding!

[Anonymous No.1086786]

>>1083365
where is the container in the pic?

[Anonymous No.1086792]

>>1082983
Just buy wood and nails

You can make it any shape and size you want, it won't rust, it's cheaper, and people have been making homes out of it for thousands of years.

[Anonymous No.1086804]

>>1086785
delete this

[Anonymous No.1086823]

>>1086804
this thread is crab meat

[Anonymous No.1086947]

>>1086792
>It won't rust
You're right, but definitely at creosote to that shopping list because those motherfuckrrs will rot

[Anonymous No.1086948]

>>1082983
>Reinforcement

It would without a doubt be cheaper to start from scratch than waste time and money on something that was never indented to be something you want it to be.

That said this thread is a meme. At least once a month this thread will crop up and I've been coming on this board for 2/3 years almost daily. I'm still waiting to see a finished bunker that isn't just a Google image search.

It's a waste of time. A daydream. Forget it.

[Anonymous No.1086949]

>>1086755
no this is a very

[Anonymous No.1086950]

>>1086949
real thing
>to early, caffeine low

[Anonymous No.1086951]

>>1083382
>>1083382
Disregard this post.

It's from someone who clearly has no idea what they're talking about. Not even basic engineering.

Lurk more. Certainly don't poison the well by contributing any further.

[Anonymous No.1086952]

>>1086190
>Bad idea
>Trying to justify a better method of doing something retarded anyway.

[Anonymous No.1086976]

>>1086785
Did we ever find out what he did with all this meat?

[Anonymous No.1088095]

>>1082983
Make a pool of concrete around it at least 2x it's width in any direction.

[Anonymous No.1088209]

>>1082983
Nobody seems to concern themselves with the issue of shitty quality steel buried in direct contact with soil. If not cleaned and coated properly, this thing will rust through in no time.

[Anonymous No.1089547]

>>1083365
I see you post every now and then and I really like what you did with that container. In two or three years I would like to live somewhere with some property where I could build a shop, and I hadn't considered using a container.

We had one that we stored some tools in at my old job, but it wasn't very big. My biggest concern is if I would actually save money if I did two containers next to each other after I DIYed some insulation and electrical hookups.

[Anonymous No.1089660]

>>1083374
>>1083378
My dad is superman and just stands in there all the time holding up the ceiling

[Anonymous No.1089719]

>>1082984
Couldn't you extrapolate this concept to make the safest space in the world, attracting all SJWs and then electrocute it like a bug zapper?

[Anonymous No.1091434]

>>1089547
>My biggest concern is if I would actually save money if I did two containers next to each other after I DIYed some insulation and electrical hookups.

Containers really save time and labor more than money, and they seal effectively against insects. I don't get dirt daubers in my machines or engines any more.

I don't bother insulating but I live in SC. If I'm in them, I'm working. Heat is easy and in summer I use a high velocity bounce house fan to circulate air. Put your man door on the end opposite your end doors. I should have rotated my second container so the end doors were on opposing ends but that's a minor oversight.

Containers provide an immediately usable floor for machine tools, welders etc. I treat mine like a jobsite and hang cords off the ceiling tiedown loops with lighting and outlets as I like. I have a proper subpanel to feed them.

I have a military mobility fetish so I connected my subpanel using a weatherhead, nut buried conduit.

I need to tidy them up since I have more gear than space, but they work very well. They are a breeze to load gear into from a trailer or truck. I tie off to ceiling loops near the end doors with heavy duty cargo straps etc since I work alone, and you can easily CONTROL what you are moving this way. "See your geometry"

Two containers (get the 40' High Cubes, not standard height because room and ventilation) cost me about five grand for the containers. Power pole I forget but you'd need that anyway, and you can buy "mobile home poles" etc kitted out.

My bro has one High Cube and loves it, but we are probably doing his differently because he has no garage. Tentative plan is a slab next to long side of container, then another container as money allows. (We work in stages because not rich and have many interests.) After both containers are placed we'll do a roof between. If you have access to "chicken trusses" from old commercial coops they are excellent, but they are popular so hard to find in my area.

[Anonymous No.1091440]

Couple of 20's and a carport, nicely executed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvJJfmyV_ms

Moving a forty is more hassle than most people will want, but if you place them such that you can back a Landoll etc tiltbed (most common in US) up to an end you can winch empty containers into place. Landolls don't typicall have corner locks (if I hauled containers I would weld in a set) so they aren't used to haul full containers with unsecured internal loads when moving them.

Moving a twenty is much easier. Your typical twenty will be delivered on a heavy duty rollback straight truck unless hauler only has eighteen-wheelers. You can retrieve them with common rollbacks used to haul cars and pickup trucks. That means you can build one, place it at a rental if you have space, then take it with you when you move.

You can mount or winch them onto common construction equipment trailers and leave them there, bolt them in place, or weld. Welding is nice because you can do it easily with a common stick welder (get someone good if you aren't, this is a safety item in transport) and easily cut out/cut off welds if needed.

Containers are good to over 100mph wind speeds unanchored and empty. If another hurricane Hugo hits. I'll be in my shop.

[Anonymous No.1091443]

BTW my longer posts are "self contained" for easy reading and so I can paste them in future threads.

If you can find a military surplus container mobilizer they often go cheap, but there aren't many.

Example CDK mobilizer video. Lurk govliquidation and auction sites if want one. If the hydraulics are down you can use them by jacking and locking tho that's an asspain, but for /diy/ers time is cheap and ingenuity is free.

[Anonymous No.1091444]

>>1091443
Fuck,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziWmoEBI8mU

[Anonymous No.1091450]

Do people not realize how heavy dirt is?

[Anonymous No.1091473]

>>1086278
The surfaces are 180 degrees though so you'd actually go to the corner to cool down

[Anonymous No.1091491]

>>1083113
Holy shit i keked

[Anonymous No.1091509]

Door example: You can vary the framing depending on what's handy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYVO1trCHcU

[Anonymous No.1091515]

>>1091450
>Do people not realize how heavy dirt is?

No, but fuck them for being stupid. All they'll lose is money and time. Not my money, not my time.

The only reason to bury a box is as blast or tornado shelter, but you can get the same results with berms, Hesco, gabions etc and have far superior access.

Every bunker problem is fundamentally a military problem, and most have been solved in many ways. Civilians don't quite understand that war is man's third priority after pussy and survival. They think they can invent something "new" when they are too lazy to learn success and THEN build something really new. That's defective psychology.

A structure is a solution to a problem with available resources. Define the problem, know the resources, plan your desired result, then execute.

[Anonymous No.1092025]

>>1083382
That's really not how he built it at all. How can you have watched the videos of the build process and still post such rubbish? I'm amazed how long summer is this year.

[Anonymous No.1092071]

>>1082983

[Anonymous No.1092311]

>>1083360
I loved that thread.

[Anonymous No.1092318]

>>1092071
>pic
Maximum autism.

[Anonymous No.1092356]

>>1083179
And of course you've done the load & deflection calculations for that, amirite?

[Anonymous No.1092359]

>>1083365
needs more trees in front. nice container though

[Anonymous No.1094050]

They could be used nicely as storage, shops or pillboxes/entrenched positions