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898127 No.898127 [Reply] [Original]

Now I know what you're gonna say, but what if I put a shipping container inside another shipping container to make it 2 times as strong? Then the air pressure underground wouldn't implode it.

>> No.898128

I think this is a great idea and you should totally do it. I'm super cereal.

>> No.898137

>>898128
This. Maybe put a shipping container in a shipping container in a shipping container in a shipping container!
This idea is so grejt!

>> No.898143

>>898127
Maybe you could prssurize it because the imploding happens because of the air pressure? Don't hold your breath when you go trough the airlock though, and do get some decompression tables. Any diving table should do.

>> No.898145

>>898137

If you double up too many times, the multiplier wraps around into the negative numbers though

>> No.898166

>>898127
If you put steel mesh reinforced concrete in between of the two, you would be fine. Take a look at colinfurze, he made his own fapcave in his backyard and posted a series of videos on it.

Yes I know this is probably troll thread, but colinfurze is awesome.

>> No.898204
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898204

Why dont people just bury old roll off dumpsters?
Shit can actually hold against the dirt

>> No.898249

>>898204
it's reinforced in the wrong direction, dirt pushing in will break the welds, while dirt pushing out pushes the skin against the weld = pure mechanical strength.
Also, that amount of steel is expensive. the usual solution to buy is 2m concrete sewer pipe or the like.

>> No.898379

>OP
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byford_Dolphin#Diving_bell_accident

>> No.898393
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898393

https://youtu.be/p1t7r3SKT2o

Stop fucking about with shipping containers.

>> No.898401

>>898127
>a shipping container inside another shipping container
but anon, theyre the same width

>> No.898402

>>898401
So apply heat, just like with anything else with the same width.

>> No.898404

>>898402
what are you talking about

>> No.898419

>>898204
>dat colour
>dat welded on ladder
it would be a perfect pool

>> No.898421
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898421

>>898419

>> No.898517

>>898166

Colin is a fucking wizard.

>> No.898533

>>898393
But that looks scary

>> No.898647
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898647

>>898127

>> No.898780
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898780

>>898404
he thinks that you can enlarge a container with heat and then put the other one inside it.

>> No.898854

>>898647

So just use house insulation

>> No.898891

>>898647
Thanks Dude - I always wanted an evidentiary photo of Underground container failure.

NOW CAN EVERY BLOODY FOOL STOP THINKING OF BURYING CONTAINERS ?!

[ I doubt if they will stop ]

>> No.898892

>>898393
Yeah FURZE is excellent.

And note episode 4 is Up now - whole concrete-pour and buried and Turfed.

>> No.898893

>>898402
Not just heat - you gotta bury the inner one in Dry-ice for a few hours to get it to shrink.

>> No.898895

A bunker without internet access is just plain gay

>> No.898901

>>898379
please don't make me think about this again anon.
fuuuuuuck.
its so horrible. if it was in a horror film i bet people wouldn't believe it was possible. they would say what idiot made this to allow this to occur surely there must be safeguards and interlocks.

>>898419
how long can you use a pool without a filter?
how powerful a filter would you need as a drop in?

>>898891
uh well pretty much come to /diy/ and wait about 30 seconds for a shipping container underground thread.
how long were you waiting for these pictures because if it was longer than 1 minute then clearly you need to lurk more anon.

>> No.898910

>>898901

You say that first part as if there is any quicker, more merciful way to die. There isn't.

>> No.898918

>>898910
yeah sure it would be quick but i woudn't choose to die in a way that required my remains to be mopped up by men in rubber boots
everyone makes a big deal about a painless death but once your dead you won't care about the pain will you? might even take your mind off the thought of being dead for a bit.

usually people say they want to die in their sleep. it took me a long time after i heard that to not be afraid to go to sleep. it still bothers me if i think about it too long

>> No.898923

>>898127
You should probably put some sort of insulation between the two shipping containers, to absorb the air pressure underground. Fake crab meat would probably be suitable, as long as you have enough motors. Otherwise I'd try to get a bunch of wasps to fly in there to fill it up. If you got a riding lawnmower, parked it over a wasp nest, and put some of that dryer vent tubing over the outlet where the blade normally spit out the grass, and put it in between the two containers, it should work. If you go that way you're gonna want to build a quadcopter out of some spare blenders and stick a camera to it so you can watch the wasps from a safe distance.

>> No.898953

>>898923

i love you

>> No.899686
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899686

>>898127
>shipping container inside another shipping container

Yo dawg!

>> No.899702

>>899686

meme

>> No.900568

>>898379
>Subsequent investigation by forensic pathologists determined Hellevik, being exposed to the highest pressure gradient and in the process of moving to secure the inner door, was forced through the 60 centimetres (24 in) in diameter opening created by the jammed interior trunk door by escaping air and violently dismembered,
>including bisection of the thoracoabdominal cavity which further resulted in expulsion of all internal organs of the chest and abdomen except the trachea and a section of small intestine and of the thoracic spine and projecting them some distance,
> one section later being found 10 metres (30 ft) vertically above the exterior pressure door.[5]

Holy fuck

>> No.900573

>>900568
At least it was painless

>> No.900609

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UKNajCgpEs

>> No.900642

Posting imgur link so I don't get bant
http://i.imgur.com/89Xk7Zj.jpg
^The guy who decompressed.

>> No.900647

>>900642
why the fuck did i look at that.

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900652

>>900642

>> No.901447

>>900642
DAYUM he got fucked so hard.

>> No.901660

>>900642
Might as well make burgers or something.

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901663

Why has no one pointed this out yet?
>>898127
>Then the air pressure underground wouldn't implode it
>underground
>air pressure

But seriously anon, the shipping container underground fort is a bad one for multiple reasons stated in past threads, the option always mentioned instead is to use concrete culvert pipe.

>> No.901666

Why don't you try to make a endo skeleton 4 dat bitch. You know like some actual structure.

>> No.901673

>>898127
We don't take kindly to your types around here.

>> No.901688

>>898127
Containerception!

>> No.901717

a friend just sent me this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3EAJex1RVo
how comes it resists the pressure ?

>> No.901727

>>901717
There seems to BE no pressure. Air between the container and the soil? Soil needs to be such that it doesn't cave in?

>> No.902088
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902088

>>898780
What. You never heard of thermal expansion?

>> No.902134

I wonder how one of those aluminum quonset huts would hold up to being buried.

>> No.902202

>>901688
Incontainerment.

>> No.902230

>>898647
Shit, I never thought it would buckle like that just 1.5ft underground. Especially the sides.

>> No.902250

>>898166
Didn't he use a half-tube thing designed specifically for underground use though? Not an easily implodable shipping container?

Anyway, I've been wondering what would happen if you dug a hole, put in the shipping container and only added concrete a few inches at a time, so it dried without pushing in the sides.

>> No.902251

Water is the worst enemy
Rust etc. plastic roof cement first followed by heavy plastic and cover that with styrofoam insulation to protect it when backfilling 100% waterproof.

>> No.902253

>>898379
Always thought this'd be a fun way to execute terrorists.
See how many atmospheres we can get it to.
I'd hope something like 20. Hope they wouldn't pass out first though...

>> No.902254

There's always a rape dungeon thread on this board

>> No.902255

>>898647
But what about >>902250

>> No.902261

>>898910
What about the guy standing next to the door who lived, who saw the other guys pulled through an inch gap right in front of him? Living the rest of his life knowing that was his fault. Lying there, gasping for air, not being able to move, as a man goops down the wall.

>> No.902757

>>902253
20 ATM of air wouldn't be a good torture technique. By the time you hit 6 atm they'd be too narc'd to care (wiki nitrogen narcosis)

If you want to punish them, switch to He2/N2/O2 and get them all the way to 20 atm. Wait a bit for their tissues to load up with dissolved gas and then start relieving the pressure. They'll fizz like a dropped soda. I've had a bubble in my knee and it hurt like hell. Whole body.... death will be a relief.

>> No.902776

Do you think filling the gap between the container and trench wall with 1 shallow layer of concrete at a time would work?

>> No.902779

>>902253
We sure have different views on fun!
Oxygen poisoning starts to be a thing at ~6bar. Although this varies by person and also conditions.

>> No.902802

>>898166
I thought this was an old fart board. Just use bed boards, preferably filched from a POW hut, to shore up the top and sides. Big X solved this problem years ago.

>> No.903010

>>898901
as far as a pool w/o a filter couldnt you just put salt in it instead of chlorine?

>> No.903035

>>898379
I don't get it. Wasn't the whole system at 9bar? That's what the diagram implies. Where was it at 1bar?

Either way, any gore pics?

>> No.903037

>>902261

Imagine how it sounded

Like a loud, violent wet fart

>> No.903040

>>903037
Fuck you anon, I laughed so hard I farted, then I laughed 30x as hard.

>> No.903041

>>903040

I didn't mean it to be funny. It sounds kind of absurd but would be horrifying to witness. suddenly PPHHBBHHHTTTT and a powerful spray of jellied human gore all over everything. A human being, just a second ago. Now something like strawberry jam, blasted in a jet, a burst of sticky viscera, traces of which were even found atop the rig's oil derrick

The obscene cartoonish nature of it is what makes it so stupefying for me.

>> No.903049

>>903041
Stop it anon, it's too much. My sides can't ha
>PPHHBBHHHTTTT
I CAN'T BREATHE

>> No.903055

>>903037
Except the higher air density would make it really low pitched.

>> No.903079

>>903055

So like a fat guy's chili nacho fart, with some bass to it. Like BBRRRRRAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPP

But instead of butt gas, it's an eruption of liquefied entrails that used to be someone's beloved spouse, who had kids on shore he wishes he spent more time with, now a pattern of quivering red grime on the walls and a humid pink mist hanging in the air

>> No.903125

>>903055
But high pressure rapidly changing to low pressure, so it'd be getting higher as time passed.

>> No.903134

>>900642
Hey guys, remember that show where nobody dies for a day? Imagine being that guy during that day.

>> No.903136

>>902250
Concrete doesn't adhere very well to already cured concrete. One pour or bust for structural work.

>> No.903138

>>903136
I'd say it's more important as filler than anything else, just so you don't have a big hole with a container in it.
If dirt's gonna crush the sides gotta put something in.

>> No.903159

>>898891
surely they can be reinforced, why talk so much shit? It's just a relatively cheap box that is almost strong enough not to collapse underground. just needs some extra work.

>> No.903164

>>903138
if you are using the concrete to hold back the dirt, then it's structural.

>> No.903437

>>903164
Only vertically.

>> No.903773

Whats the most cost effective way to make an underground bunker then?

>> No.903809

Do people have something against concrete or something? Either build your dumb fort with normal building materials or use a septic tank.

>> No.903810

>>898127
it would be far cheaper to buy a shitload of 4x4s and 3/4 plywood and build forms
it will also last way longer

>> No.903826

>>903773
google box culvert

>> No.903865

I know this is somewhat of a taboo topic on /diy/, but to actually built a bunker what kind of expertise would be required for the planning of the structure and the laying of the concrete and steel? Anyone have any pointers?

>> No.904005

>>898127
what? how fucking deep are you going, are you a millionaire or do you have to decompress when you go in the basement?

>> No.904006

>>898402
kek, it's a container not a t-shirt.

>> No.904051

What if you took a shipping container, filled it with dirt, multiply that by a bunch, and surrounded a soace with solid dirt shipping containers? Like giant size bricks, except one brick per wall.

>> No.904149

>>898647
Not to mwntion you get a little rain and itll pop up outta the ground like a bobber.. ita why even as something as little as a coffin, they surround it in concrete... once they made them watertight they were popping up lwft and right. >>898647

>> No.904152

>>898923
You are a genius. I would have never thought about the dryer vent!!

>> No.904154

>>902088

rule is one thousandth of an inch, per inch, per 100*F

>> No.904155

>>898923

Dont forget the eggcrate foam to cover up the sound of the mower

>> No.904163

>>904149
coffins are not surrounded in concrete
and the ground would have to turn to liquid mud for it to pop out of the ground

>> No.904167

>>904163
Burial vaults are required in many cemeteries, and they are often made of concrete. They don't want depressions, or having their excavation equipment sink into a hole.

http://www.carnells.com/help-support-article.aspx?id=41

>> No.904197

>>904163
Yes, All coffins are surrounded by a concrete vault. It doeant take a mud pit to pop it up either, a decent rain will work as the dug ground acts like a swimming pool and collects the water until it can matriculate into the subsoil. Seen it do it many times. And twice to basements before they got a house on it...

>> No.904199

>>904197
I have been to a bunch of funerals

the box just goes into the ground and dirt goes on top


they only do that shit in swamps

>> No.904338

>>900609
that looks like it was expensive af!

also is it common to have bedrock this close to the surface?

>> No.905274

>>903035

>"Hellevik was about to close the door between the chamber system and the trunk when the chamber explosively decompressed from a pressure of nine atmospheres to one atmosphere in a fraction of a second".

Something bad happened to set the whole thing in motion.

>> No.905297
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905297

>>898647

>> No.905323

>>904199
They do it in Southern California too. Concrete vault, coffin inside. No law requires it, just cemeteries like it because its lets them pack the dirt then and there instead of dealing with sinking ground as the coffin collapses later.

>> No.905334

>>905323
Also they get to charge more.

>You need to encase them in concrete because it might rain, not because we intend to drive our excavator over your love ones final resting place.

>> No.905362

>>898127
Why not bury a cargo ship and live in a shipping container in a shipping container in the cargo bay of a container ship.

>> No.905370

>>904154
So heat it up by

(96 - 92 - 19/32)/93 * 100 =
(307200/32 - 294400/32 - 1900/32)/93 =
(307200 - 294400 - 1900)/2976 =
10900/2976

2725 744ths of degree

I'm not seeing the problem here, and I even did the calculation in Imperial so you wouldn't have to see a decimal point and get scared in case it was an insect or a spider or something.

>> No.905372

>>905370
>.
Shit.

>> No.905405

>>898127
how deep are you planing on putting it? air pressure should be a problem if it is like pic

>> No.905406

>>905370
please do metric calculation I am a 3rd mechanical engineering student And have little idea of what you mean because imperial is infereior

>> No.905771

>>905406
you say it's inferior yet you do not know how to properly use it?

>> No.905804

>>905771
A monocycle is inferior to a car, yet i dont know how to drive a monocycle.

>> No.905809

>>905804
Point taken.

>> No.906276

>>903773
>cost effective
>bunker
Those two terms are usually considered mutually exclusive.

>> No.906284

>>903773
To die and ask for a concrete vault

>> No.906399

>>903773
Idaho modern oldtimer builds underground & solar …: http://youtu.be/8B6xR3T37gI

>> No.906413

>>898647
Shipping containers are weaker than old school buses.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KyE0Tc2_6U

>> No.906415

>>906413
buses also make better storage

take the drive train off and sell it and they are cheaper than containers and without the wheels the floor sits close to ground level making easy entry

>> No.906419

>>898249
Why not use an underground pipe and line it with rooms of shipping containers that are interconnected with service panels to open up the curve empty spaces in between the pipe and shipping container. They'll be extra supports on the bottom so that the floor won't rust through and possibly a way to drain the bunker if it gets flooded without getting wet.

Place the pipes verticle and cap them with reinforced cement dome so they can go up and down a shaft

>>906415
We could have access to a vehicle room and make it so that everyone can have a functional nuclear fallout shelter.

>> No.906487

>>906415
An interesting idea would be to give the exhaust and air intake from the bus two pipes to the surface so you can run the engine for light electricity and heat

And you could cut holes in the flor and store items under the bus the earth should keep food cold

>> No.906641
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906641

>>906413
They should have used concrete like in the vid here >>898393 for that. A shipping container with concrete can also work, but you have to use cold joints for the concrete or it will look like >>898647 or float up out of the concrete.

You can use pretty much anything, if you're using concrete.

>> No.906643

>>906641
You know Rhino liner is really fucking expensive?

>> No.906658

>>906643
Spray foam isn't cheap either.

>> No.906705

>>906643
>>906658
Beats corrosion, water, and death I suppose. It'll last several lifetimes.

>> No.906965

>>903079
>>903055
>>903049
>>903041
>>903040
>>903037
People died guys.

>> No.906969
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906969

>>906965
There are far more prolonged and painful ways to die. Also, don't forget where you are. The world is dark. If you don't make light of it its gunna get you down.

Don't let it get you down anon.

>> No.906982

>>898379
I think the OP wants the space between the inner and outer containers to be pressured not the living space. Which is retarded since it means the same force will crush the inner container anyway.

>> No.906984

OPs idea is of course a troll. If you want to bury something, buy a cleaned railroad tank car hull and bury that. They are often used for culverts and due to thickness and shape are suitable for burial.

Burying most shelter is stupid and people are fascinated with it. If you want a practical shelter the smart way can include partial burial with a berm covering the top, but you don't need it and if you live close enough to a nuke target to need a blast shelter you are a fool cause radiation. A fallout shelter is easier to build. Copy military designs.

>> No.907096

>>898127
Dig a pit. Pour a foundation in the pit with rebar sticking up around the outside. Pile the dirt back in the pit on the foundation in a dome. Bend rebar over dome, add more rebar and chainlink, weld. Pour concrete over dome, frame out holes first. Dig out dirt, put on top of concrete dome. Plant garden on roof.

>> No.907172

>>907096
If you pack the dirt dome and roll on latex paint, you can peel the paint off the cement when it is done and you've dug out the dirt.

>> No.907598

>>906984
Don't listen to this Caucasian. Empty tanks of any size stored underground will literally float up in wet conditions. I used to be in the gasoline storage business so I know of what I speak.

>> No.907607

Someone already did this.

There buried like 10 shipping containers and had an under ground weed growing facility for years.

>> No.907644
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907644

Here is the model of the bunker iv been working on

>> No.907651
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907651

>>907598
All you need to use is a "Deadman Anchor System". If you know anything about underground tanks you know they need anchors.

>> No.907749

>>907607
Yeah I've been trying to find that, I've seen it before and wanted to compare.

>> No.908176

>>907644
That looks awesome, any use in mind or is this just for fun?

>> No.908252

>>907644
>geodesic
my nig hell yes my dream home is a hobbit hole/geodesic hybrid complex

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908333

>>902254

>> No.908334

>>907749

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1583273/Underground-cannabis-factory-found-in-Sussex.html

>> No.908510

check youtube , there is this britisch guy who made a mancave under his garden is fucking huge .

>> No.908693

>>908510
You mean >>898393

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909443

CHECK THIS OUT OP ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW


https://www.youtube.com/user/colinfurze/videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UKNajCgpEs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8yiuJ9yFic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1t7r3SKT2o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR493Peehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KO25JYAaJC06Xo
DONT USE A SHIPPING CONTAINER

>> No.909455

>>909443
Don't listen to this faggot! He wants all the connexes to himself!

>> No.909465

>>903865

>expertise

Your average third world mason and labourer can build a 20x16x20 septic by themselves. Out of a cast bottom, 8 inch blocks going the whole way up and a cast top. They just use lots of steel matting, starter bars, runners and fill every block with concrete all the way down.

While they generally have excrement in them giving the walls some outward pressure they can sit empty for years waiting for the building to finish.

>> No.909466

>>905406

>mechanical engineer
>cannot understand both of the most commonly used units of measurement

Oh wait, you are still a student. I understand now, you still don't know much at all.

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909497

>>909466
>Implying there's anything the imperial measurements can do better than the metrics

>> No.909501

>>909497
>>909466
I don't even use any measurement system when I'm doing most of my DIY stuff. I just measuring using the nearest thing that looks about right and go from there. so long as everything is properly measured from your starting arbitrary unit, it doesn't matter what it is.

>> No.909504

>>909501
>This part should be atleast 3 pop-filters wide
>This other thing should be approximately 10 coka cola bottle diameter.

>> No.909510

>>909497

The only thing metric has over imperial is the ease of learning. Which in my opinion is an advantage but shitting on either standard is retarded.

Someone operating as a professional, businessman or whatever, being "bi-lingual" when it comes to units of measurement has advantages that you obviously do not understand.

There are days where I have to communicate with various clients and these clients sometimes cannot visualize a couple of meters, so I tell them in feet, or yards. Some clients have no idea what 3" means when I quote the mean penis length of a 4 chan anon so I have to state that it is a little over 75mm.

The previous student anon will do much better in life if he were to understand both standards instead of boxing himself in his hole and embarrassing himself in front of his client. Which I do hope he makes it to the point where he actually becomes an Engineer and not just some burger flipper or street cleaner like many university plebs.

>>909501

It depends. If you are fitting something into a particular space then I'd measure.

But like you if it isn't important to the inch I just fucking cut what looks right and if there are a series of them, ie. open face shelving or a steel bracket where overlap doesn't matter, then I use that first cut as the profile.

Get shit done significantly quicker that way.

>> No.909511

>>909504
Well, I use knuckle distances or random scrap sticks. I don't drink soda, but yeah exactly like that.

>> No.909512

>>909510
>It depends. If you are fitting something into a particular space then I'd measure.

Yeah, if I'm installing something into a house or something that needs to be made for that space. Most of my stuff is built from the ground up and parts that need to fit a place have that place made for them as I'm making the thing.

>> No.909556

If you can afford shipping containers, and the equipment to bury them, just use concrete instead. The UK is riddled with shipping container sized bunkers buried upwards of six feet down, mostly built during the cold war by the Royal Observer Corps, to monitor and report on the fallout spread and blast zones of a nuclear war. They wre not designed to survive a nuclear war ~ we're not talking vault tec here, but they were designed to keep two men alive underground for up to two weeks after a blast. Survivability beyond that would depend on organized rescue. But most of them are now abandoned and despite many being bulldozed (well, the entrances and air filters at least, the actual bunkers are generally virtually indestructable), many are still intact. Ive visited and gone into a few, although they were badly vandalized, apparantly even dragging half a tree down the entrance and having a barbeque hole wasnt enough to even crack the concrete.

Flooding is an issue, as with any underground structure, but a sump and handpumps that sometimes still function after 40 years underwater work wonders.

Forget containers, go reinforced concrete.

Or if you are UK based and have the cash, nearly any hill thats not an actual mountain will have at least one roc post buried in it. Buy the plot of land and there you go. I know a guy has one in his back yard. Made it into a literal man cave.

Fuck, they even had BT phonelines in them (one i visuted was still live despite the foot of water on the floor and the 1992 closure), in theory you could get them hooked to the internet.

>> No.909805

>>909510
You're forgetting the scalability of the metric system and you are mistaking the fact that the US uses imperial as making it superior. There is nothing in "my clients use the inferior measuring system" that makes it better. Yes, the fact that your clients use it means that you'll have to but it doesn't change the fact that imperial has "tradition" as the only thing going for it.

>> No.910049

>>909805

I never claimed imperial was superior. Do you have difficulty reading?

>> No.910114

How about we just bury a big septic tank, put some 'grated' flooring in, decorate it, then repeat the process with a few more tanks?
That'd make for a pretty neat living complex.
Not a bunker, though.

>> No.910500

>>910049
Metric is superior

Knowing metric and imperial is more useful than knowing either

>> No.910502
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>>910114
>septic tank

Most are not rated for empty use. They collapse and/or float out of the ground if not secured with deadman anchors.

If you want to spend that much money on something get culvert pipe. They are rated for a long ways into the ground and come in some pretty large sizes. There's also structural plate culverts. If you need big.

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>Unhealthy obsession with burying light weight square things underground.

>> No.910525

shipping containers are only usefull for this type of application as sort of a contained room inside of another structure, pretty much every successful shipping container under ground involves some sort of other space with the container inside it

>> No.910720

>>910525
Its pretty easy.

The containers coners are mant to carry all weight.
So just use a big ass slightly rounded metal plate and weld it to the corners properly.

Then you fill up the space between them with PU-Foam.

So you have great insolation from both cold/hot and acoustics. The inner of the containers you should also cover with some kind of foam or Wood, to absorb the soundwaves so its not too loud in it.

with 3 or 4 Shipping containers you can actually do pretty nice stuff.
And also you can do all the work before digging, then just dig the container in, and fill up with concrete.

basically thats it. of course you have to know how to do exectricity and disposal of water and Toiletstuff, but you CAN use a shipping containe, if used PROPERLY.

I also think that i could treat the container before i start with bitumen. so you would have 100% waterresistance .

>> No.911163

>>910720
The point isn't that it's not possible, the point is that your spending more money for an inferior end product by using shipping containers. As we try to tell you fags Every. Single. Fucking. Thread.

>> No.911215

>>911163
And i try to tell you that money is not all. Ita sometimes about possibilities.

And if you only can get a shipping containee-why not?

If done like i described you have a very fast was of doing it.

>> No.911236

>>910500

>Knowing metric and imperial is more useful than knowing either

Exactly what my initial point is.

>> No.911247
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How can I turn my reinforced underground concrete storm shelter in to a reusable intermodal container for shipping a range of goods from my house to china and back again?

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>>911247
Well, that post caught me off guard.

>> No.911265

>>911215
If you can get a shipping container to your property, you can get pre-cast concrete culvert, which is cheaper, stronger, and faster to install.
Like I said, paying more for an inferior end product.

All good and well if you're an "artist" who's doing it just because he can, but it's a bullshit reason if you want an actual usable, safe bunker.

>> No.911277

>>911265
If it does what a bunker does, how a bunker does it, then i dont care whst other people do.


I am an INTP personality so that means i like to keep my options open.

Maybe your method is cheaper, i dont know but closing an ipion just for the lulz is not very smart.

Go back to your online dildo generator

>> No.911278

>>911277
>I am an INTP personality
Surely you mean "I believe in pseudoscientific woo"?

>> No.911293

>>911277
In order to use a shipping container for an extended amount of time you need to use it as a form to pour concrete over. It must be anchored before pouring and you must pour the concrete at different times, only raising the level about 2 feet each time (cold joints). Otherwise it will collapse the sides of the container, if you tried to pour it all at once.

Culvert pipe only needs to be anchored in place then covered.

>> No.911342

>>911293
Read my fist post and rethink.

>> No.911388

>>911277
>wah wah I don't want to accept that my idea is shit
>wah wah cry cry call the amberlamps stop oppressing me shitlord
gb2tumbr

>> No.911398

>>911342
This one? >>910720

Curved metal plating right? That's just culvert pipe. It is technically called "structural plate" and is how they make these >>910502 They are designed to carry the weight on both the sides and the top. If you are using that, you'll not need the shipping containers. Also, cementing as described in >>911293 is far cheaper than using any kind of metal plating to entirely enclose the shipping container.

The point I'm making is which one is easier and cheaper to do. Instead of retro-fitting and reinforcing a shipping container, you can simply install the proper in-ground stuff that is designed for being underground. You cut out a lot of fuss and cost that way. There's also far less chance of failures.

>> No.911449

I dont know if you are right. Bit your whole point is inbalid in the sense that what i posted is possible and doable.

I dont say shipping containers are the best solution, but they can be also used. ;)

>> No.911488

>>911449
Noted, but I was reinforcing what this anon was stating, >>911163 >>911265

>> No.911662

>>911488like i say, i just point out options.

I cab imagine that buying a shipping container and weld evrything on your own might als be less atracting to authorities than orderung it somewhere.

I can do only most basic welding, so i would still use shipping containers and pu-foam and concrete.

Bit i would rather habe 3 or 5 of them. Only one container isnt enough i think

>> No.911666

>>911662
The floor is the toughest part of a hipster-container so if your ordering 4 and can weld cut them up and save the floors.
Then weld the 2 floor on to the side of one floor, now weld the 3rd floor on to the top.

>> No.911748

>>911666
I would IF i would do it, rather dont weld them together but rather connect them via tubes.

So you have 2 for Toilet and bathing, wich is enclosed so bad smell wond to you problems.

1 for Sleeping and living and the 4th for cooking.
I would let the one for cooking also not welded together, so the moist from all cooking dont spreak in your whole bunker and does funghi damage.

>> No.911785

Speaking of toilets and baths, where does this waste go? There's no longer a downhill it can run off into a tank. You'll need to pump it up and out or shit in a bucket and carry it out. Septic sump pumps are no joy to maintain, I know, I have one.

>> No.911795

>>898137
Containerception

>> No.911848

>>911785
There are various options.

You could dig a really deep hole with siphon and in the hole is a perforatet mesh. So avrything dilutes into earth.

You could also look where in your near the waterpipes for used water are and just poke a hole in it an pumt it with an small pump in.or shit directkly through a siphon in the pipe....

>> No.912150

>>906413
I've seen something like this, a short bus under ground

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>> No.912173

>>912171
Ha, Bruce built it for children, first thing that happens to these children is he strips them and washes them... worlds largest sex dungeon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2L17BMJmo0

>> No.912181

>>907644
Hm, that looks an aweful lot like that LOST thing

>> No.912197

>>912171
>>912173
Ah, there's the one I'd been searching for. Couldn't remember the name. They only use the buses as cheap forms to pour the concrete over, and not as the structural support for the dirt over top.

>> No.912200

>>912173
>first thing that happens to these children is he strips them and washes them..

It is for radiation decontamination. The bunker is for nuclear disaster and is prepared as such.

>> No.912345

>>912200
wouldnt you decontaminate out side, not bring the contaminate inside?

>> No.912356

>>912345
Jesus fuck, study military decon procedures if you are serious. You can't do effective decon in an open toxic NBC environment.

All bunker and NBC decon questions have been answered exhaustively. Search engines, use them. You can copy the old KMU airlock decon units for the entrance to your rape dungeon.

>> No.912359

>>903773
Buy a cleaned rail tank car hull from a recycler, weld on vents, entrances, lifting lugs and so forth while above ground. Make the interior somewhat like a submarine including a sump and manual bilge pump. Lower below grade and backfill.

Of course the ONLY reason to bury a bunker is BLAST protection, and if you live near enough to a target for that to matter you are somewhat fucked anyway. Fallout protection can be accomplished above ground.

>> No.912360

>>912359
http://www.sterlingrail.com/classifieds/Listings.php?type=Tank%20Car&fsw=FS

You can contact resellers about buying hulls. Farmers use them for culverts. They are rolled heavy plate, not sheet metal.

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>>912356
His decontamination room is clearly in the wrong place, it should be separate from the main block.

Again why bring the contaminate in to the main area?

Clearly he wants to fiddle with kids, why else would he save only children and himself? Children and old man are going to struggle to rebuild anything.

>> No.912399

>>912356
>>912363
>>912345
It is still meant for nuclear decontamination. It doesn't mean it is correct. But, bringing up your childhood fears and projecting them onto some random person who is actually doing something with his life is extremely suspect. Like what happened to you and/or what have you been doing?

>> No.912415

>>912399
Or we could argue that your white knight act is suspicious, you are very keen to defend the actions of man whom plans on taking a lot of children underground with him so he can repopulate the earth with them.
Are you one of his chosen children? Will you be treated to a golden decontamination shower on arrival?

>> No.912421

>>912359
Yes, you can build an effective fallout shelter above ground, but earth is an extremely effective radiation shield. It's also cheap as fuck, and requires no additional insulation, and is easier to airtight, since you've only got one side instead of 5+, which keeps more fallout out of the shelter.

>> No.912490

>>912415
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnTmBjk-M0c