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So I'm 24 and I need to get my shit going. I'm looking into becoming an electrician, but I have no idea where to start, other than NECA, IEC, and IBEW. Who's better for getting a guy a career? Also general electricians thread, I guess.

>> No.851492

Go see a Navy recruiter son. You'll learn electricity right quick in the Navy. The recruiter can give you an aptitude test, that will determine your vocational ability. Maybe electrician isn't really what you were meant to do. You'll be able to find out. Maybe you'd rather fly drones, or work in communications.
Go find out.

>> No.851503

>>851458
You need 4 years of school and several hundred hours on the job training before you can take your journeyman test.
Good luck, I'm in year 4 and no one will fucking touch me and I don't have an in anywhere making it even worse.
If you're going into the trade get the job lined up then start school and get your T-card since you don't want to even try starting school first and getting a job later

>> No.851531

>>851492
This is a great way in the trade.
>>851503
That's dumb. A way to go but waste especially with union. I have 5 years in the trade and have all the licenses run jobs a a formen. I'm going to Montana soon for level 1 fiber optic license while working on a electrical engineering degree in night school. Find a good growing company and show them your willing to worth the training and you'll make it.

>> No.851532
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851532

>>851531
Pic related

>> No.851785

>>851532

Out of phase. Would not wire with.

>> No.851791

>>851785
>>851532
I've seen far worse not burn a house down, but I have to ask. Did your phone rotate the picture like how they tend to do or is that panel actually mounted horizontally? Yeah you can horizontal mount a panel, but if you're in a jurisdiction which uses NFPA70 you have to buy special breakers for one of the rows (in this case the top row) so that the handles are up for on and down for off.

Damnit captcha, wtf do kayaks have to do with electrical?

>> No.851792

IBEW third year apprentice here. Got out of highschool, applied at the local JATC and waited a month or two. Got a call, started learning on the job, go to school 8 weeks a year. Learning lots from lots of guys. Great fucking choice. I'm hardly 22, making 23 bucks an hour, 2 pensions and health with another 2 years to go. Do not regret.

>> No.851793

>>851792
This really makes me want to change professions. I'm 26 and I hit the pay cap for carpenters here in Arizona. $25 an hour.

>> No.851806

>>851458
>27 in controls
>80k a year

>> No.851811

>>851793

Pay cap? The fuck is a pay cap?

>> No.851875

>>851458
Some places don't require 10 years as journeyman (slave). You can study your ass off and pass the test for your Master Electrician License, if you're smart enough.
Indentured servitude... apprenticeships, internships, student loans, OJT, unions, etc. all hold you back.

>> No.851992

>>851811
where people stop hiring you if you ask for more money for the job.

>> No.852534

>>851992

Then go into business for yourself.

>> No.852561

>>852534
I'd rather do my 8-10 hours. Sure I can make more money sub contracting or something, But don't feel like working 24 hour days.

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852788

>electricians
What's the minimum bend radius on one of these?
I need to figure out how much I have to space out an outlet from other things
Not an electrician btw, just a guy.

>> No.852937

>>852788
That's a plug, so I'd say ~200 miles.

>> No.852968

>>852788
Bending plugs is hard work for professionals only. do you even have access to a plug bender?

>> No.853009
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853009

What's the point of filtering capacitors in DC devices like this one? Why would I need to filter a 9v battery input?

>> No.853019

>>853009
>filtering capacitor

Reservoir Capacitor

>> No.853022

>>851458
Find out where the nearest IBEW union hall is, and call them. Tell them you want guidance. They will love to help you if they can. Sometimes the union halls can't help newbies if their existing brothers & sisters are laid off. That's how it goes with any labor union. But step one is to give them a call and see what's up.

A friend of mine from way back did that, and she is now a commercial electrician, doing fine for herself.

>> No.853024

>>853009
Those batteries are far from perfect and the high current draw from the output stage (the output transistor + an external loudspeaker in series) will drop the voltage on a transient basis; that will accidentally your signal unless you shunt dem transients with a cap.

>> No.853045

>>852968
>2015...
>Not having an automatic bender

>> No.853058

>>853009
A more correct term for the cap in this application is a stiffening cap like they use in car audio. Sometimes as was said in another post high and low transients can pull more current than the battery can instantly supply so your transient would fade or be clipped. The cap supplies the extra current on demand and is recharged as soon as the transient passes so it is ready for the next.

>> No.853060

>>851458
>
I agree with the rest of these posts. Join the navy or coast guard, learn a trade, welding or electrical or mechanic, travel the world, learn to be a grown up.

>> No.853063

>>853058
>>853024
>>853019


Alright, thank you guys! Another capacitor use to add to the nearly infinite list.

>> No.853170

>>851791
No my sitting phone and no I didn't mount or land the panel I just had to add a dryer plug. I like to take pictures of panels and show my dad. He got me in to the trade and he can't work and misses it.

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853171

>>851875
This guy gets it.

>> No.853173

>>852937
Kek

>> No.853176

>>853022
Unions blow, having to pay to work fuck that.

Bbbbbut I make 28 a hour
>has more took out of check for union dues and dumb shit.

I get paid 30/hr and pay only taxes, 401k, and health. Fuck paying to work.

>> No.853267

>>852561

I worked for a company with 15 employees. 7 were tradesmen. The guy that owned the place didn't put in 24 hour days; fuck it was impressive if he did 24 hours a week.

Sure it's hell at first but it gets easier as you can grow and relegate the work and truly function as a business owner.

>> No.853269

>>853176

Non-union here. The carpenters union around here pays the homeless to protest in front of job sites that don't hire them; unless I'm being stereotypical in assuming ill-dressed blacks with shitty shoes aren't carpenters. That tells me everything I need to know about union mentality in this town. Glad they're a minority.

>> No.853291

>>853171
What's that supposed to be?

A consumer unit with a built-in cloaking device?

1) Flash
2) Autofocus assist
3) Tripod

>> No.853336

>>853269
Fuck I've actually heard of that before too. Last big job I ran was a pretry big industrial job, had to run low volt cat6/fiber optic. Ran a 850 foot fiber run with 60,000$ worth of cable and a fucking union insulator for the pipe fitters cut in the fucking middle. My boss was pissed and had the gc call the cops. They asked him why? He said, "der taken our union jobs".

>> No.853896

>>853060
false.

electroni s tech in the CG here. Yes, you CAN learn some great things, however that is largely determined by where you get stationed.

Join the Navy, they have the new and cutting edge shit anyways.

tldr: join the navy for higher learning on and off duty.

>> No.853915

>>853896
>join the navy for higher learning on and off duty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrdGL5lXHx4