/diy/ - Do It Yourself

>>67015
shortening a barrel is all kinds of illegal in the u.s. dunno if you care but i'm throwing it out there.

>>67019
You're all kinds of wrong.

>>67019

Why would you just throw something out there if you don't know what you're talking about?

OP, shooting pigs for fun is all kinds of cruel. Just throwing that out there. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/10/science/10angier.html

>>67015
i'm telling you it is. you need a permit or a stamp or some shit like that, this link was the fastest thing i could find, granted it's focus is mainly on shotguns.

>>67024
my bad no link. scroll down to legal restrictions
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sawed-off_shotgun

>>67024
>>67019
I'm telling you it's not. You can saw the barrel down to 16" as long as overall length remains over 26".

OR you may pay a $200 tax to the ATF and do whatever barrel length you want.

>>67019
>>67019
>>67024
>>67024
I'm telling you you're full of bullshit.
>>67028
>>67028
This guy has his shit together.

>>67025
>>67025
Sorry if you're an animal lover, but fuck pigs.
First off, there's nothing better than eating meat you caught and butchered yourself. Second, feral hogs are growing at an exponential rate in my area. One jackass farmer let out a pregnant sow 2 years ago, and now(just in the square mile area I pig hunt) there are more than 50, with the biggest boar in the biggest herd EASILY over 400lbs.

Bluing please. Also restoring the wood- I'd know how to sand it down, but when it comes to staining and sealing I'm lost. Dark Walnut is the wood.

>>67038
>they are delicious
>there are lots of them
>they are fat
therefore
>they must die

Makes sense. I'm out.

P.S. Make an Obrez.

>>67043
Lolbrez

>>67041
>>67041
I'm helping a buddy 'sporterize' his Mosin this weekend too, and I'm almost he'll want his blued and the wood refinished, but if neither of us do it, I'm almost done prepping my project guitar(which I'm going to stain/seal) so you'll be getting pictures and instructions either way.

i would buy a mosin just to do this to it..

detailed updates and instructions OP!

Got the gun stripped down today, have all the parts soaking in mineral spirits. I'm sure you all know how to take down your firearm so I won't post pictures from that, but for you Mosin owners, I'll post a picture of the dovetail and rear sight after I removed it. I hosed the rear sight with this stuff and let it sit for 4 hours. It still took me 45 minutes to get the rear sight off.

The 2 arrows mark the location of the 2 pins securing the rear sight to the dovetail rail. Drive out those pins first, then using a BRASS DRIFT and a BALL PEEN HAMMER - ALWAYS use the proper tools for the job - drive the rear sight toward the muzzle/front sight.

DO NOT attempt to remove the rear sight unless you plan on replacing it.

My dovetail rail and the sight were rusted together. Removal of the rear sight rendered it unusable, and left chunks of steel on the dovetail.
You can see the chunks of metal bonded to the dovetail.
I have since used a hand file, chisel, and scotch-brite to remove the excess material.

Here is the inside of the rear sight. The shiny parts are where the metal was bonded to the dovetail and sheared apart. This sight is badly marred, and while salvagable with some effort, I will replace it with a permanently mounted Picatinny rail.

That's all I've got done so far. I'll be sanding and trimming the stock tomorrow.

Lets take an amazing rifle, then let's go about fucking it up. Really hope you have your papers in order OP, you will need to have in order to go about shortening it. Also reported.

1,) go to /k/
2.) let them tell you how fucking dumb you are.
3.) lift some weights
4.) THE RUSSIANS RAN ACROSS EUROPE THREW SMALL BUILDINGS, BRUSH, TREES, SWAMPS AND ALL KINDS OF SHIT, AND YOU ARE TELLING ME IT'S TOO MUCH A BURDEN WHILE HUNTING?!?!?!

GO FUCKING DIE IN A HOLE YOU PATHETIC POS.
YOURE NOT A HUNTER, YOU'RE A PUSSY WITH A GUN.

>>67997
If the 91/30 was so great why did they bother developing the M38 and M44? Ans why was the Finnish version shortened?

>>67997

How about this

He stays here, keeps talking about how he's converting a decent gun into another decent gun, for a different purpose.

And you try to contribute (or at least keep up)

It's a interesting project, I'd like to see how you plan on finishing the gun. Just don't go all tacticool on it for /k/'s sake

All these shithouse lawyers are pissing me off. If you dont know 100% about what the hell you are talking about how about shutting the fuck up and letting OP educate those of us who want to learn more.

>>67987
Section 2.1.3 on NFA Rifles. Read it, asshat.

>>67987
>>67997
Not sure if trolling... but how's this. There are 14 million run-of-the-mill Mosin's that can be bought for under $100 dollars. As in that's all they're worth. Why don't you people ever show up bitching about Tapco fucking an SKS, or for that matter, making a tacti-cool AR.

I am taking an old, reliable workhorse and getting the most out of it. You can take 9 inches off the 91/30's barrel without affecting the accuracy. I'm taking off 10.5 inches to increase portability/maneuverability, free floating the barrel, glass bedding the action(both to improve accuracy) and putting on an older Walther Holo sight I have laying around.

Is OP done with pics and posting?

HEY FUCK U pussy

Measured, marked, and made primary cut to the stock.

Secondary cut to stock

Shaped it with a sanding block and 120 grit paper.
Be sure to keep the sanding paper clean. It works better and lasts alot longer.

The 91/30 barrel is 28.75 inches(measured from the face of the bolt while closed). ATF says you can have a barrel as small as 16(including muzzle brake) inches without a tax stamp(if the overall weapon length is 26 inches or more). I marked the barrel at 17 inches.

If any of you plan to do this, BE SURE to tape the side of the barrel you are keeping, so it doesn't get marred by your tools. Use the correct blade and plenty of oil. Don't let the metal get too hot.

hey A&P dude, what brand of ammo do you use, i could only every get the old russian surplus, and only every other round actually worked

>>68386
I use the steel core milsurp from the late 70s. The primers on these sometimes are slow(up to a second after the firing pin clicks before the round goes off) but I have yet to find a single dud.

hey thanks man.

Next, take a fine double cut file and work the muzzle down to remove the tool marks from the saw. Be sure to keep the Muzzle square.

>>68389
Just so you know, the steel core is marked with a silver tip.

After you have filed it down, take scotch-brite and a bit of oil and work out the marks from the file.

Now it's time to work the crown.

Larry explains it better than I can with a picture, so here's this video.

http://www DOT youtube DOT com/watch?v=OorpZlG28fI

useful link for you ammo guys
http://62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinAmmoID.htm

Next I'll be glass bedding the action, and free floating the barrel.
I have the stock sanded down. Here is the Monster Nagant as it sits right now, next to its old twin brother.

should this be here, I thought /k/ was for weapons.

>>68400
Guns, cars, kites who cares. Its a /diy/ project for a /diy/ board.

>>68398
Lookin pretty good, I've been thinking about a sporter for a while cept with a muzzle brake on it.

>>68400
/k/ is for fapping over 1911s and raging at katanas. It is good for nothing else.

A&Pdude, please don't put a holographic sight on it. Give it regular irons, make it classy.

>>68667
I would put an acog on, but why put $1400 worth of optics on a $100 gun? The Walther can withstand the recoil, and is a quick target acquisition sight. Its no EOtech, but It does the job and does it well.

I don't want the iron sights for CQ hog hunting when I can throw on a better-suited night sight. Hogs root and feed at dusk/just after dark, and if I can upgrade from iron sights, why not?

hey op im totally considering getting a mosin soon, im gonna have to shortened (girl) you should make a full instructable .jpg, it would totally help me out.
awesome thread btw

>>68705
email me at

thegoochtastic@gmail.com

if you're not a troll i'll give you my legit email and make you an instructable.I'm not gonna post any of the detail work on here until the knowitalls and 'purists' shut up and quit making up laws and talking about 'fuckin russians guns ass balls ruin it berp herp i'm 12 and penis hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr'