/diy/ - Do It Yourself

>>642938
*doesn't read

That's why I killed everyone.

Now I'm the mayor.

You should see my fortress of bones.

>>642938
No codes or zoning where I live. lol

>>642960
Go home, Afghanistan. You're drunk!

>>642938
well, yeah. I'm gonna do what I'm gonna do with my house. there shouldn't be any laws telling me how to construct my house

>>642973

You have no concept of codes. They go well beyond you. They protect any contractor and/or future occupant from getting hurt or even killed due to stupid shit.

Codes and their subsequent adoptions are there for a reason: people were too fucking stupid to do things right so they had to make it a law to enforce it. Analogous to requiring lights on while driving at night, for example.

>watching construction shows from 'murrica, land of the stupid
>no one wears a hard hat
>no such thing as workplace health and safety

>watching construction shows from UK, the land that time forgot
>people hammering in nails by hand
>using hand drills
>every plank is cut with a hand saw

>watching construction shows from my glorious australia
>red tape, red tape everywhere
>no one can sneeze without asking permission

>>642990
>I used to spend all day masturbating to the cute boys on home improvement
whatever dude, keep it to yourself.

>>642990
>no one wears a hard hat
>no such thing as workplace health and safety
this is actually a good thing.
they have the safety equipment but they only use it at appropriate times.
>using miter saw, puts on glasses, finish using, take them off

>>642990
>Wake up in Ausfailia
>Get out of bed, put on clothes
>Put on hardhat to plug in toaster
>Gov't regulated to only reach 99.8 degrees F
>Don safety glasses to insert toast
>Toast is finished
>Wear both of your welding gloves to grab lukewarm toast
>Butterknives are too dangerous
>Wear full-body plate armor before spreading butter on toast with your hands
>Youtube various American construction videos
>"Look at all these wankers, they'll be dead within a week!"

>>642979
The stupid few ruin it for the many.

>dad is an OSHA certified peni-*cough* building inspector and also rents out apartment buildings for a living.
>He taught me everything /diy/ I know as a kid.
>We did a fuckton of renovations and projects together.
>Tore out and rebuilt porches, destroyed kitchens, built breakfast nooks, dug sub-pumps, you name it.
>Can't walk down a street with him without him asking me "hey anon, that building look alright to you?"
>nothing is ever safe enough.
>"something can always kill you son."
>mfw he puts his ear on random walls and knocks on them to find studs.
>he jumps up and down on random floors to test their stability.

>does these things in restaurants.
>hospitals.
>at a fucking funeral once.
>a
>fucking
>funeral.
>mfw

c'mon dad

>>643000
Ain't that the truth. Generally though its the tards not following code that fuck it up for the rest of us. Not people following code and building smart and just not getting permits or whatever.

I lived in a house built in the early 60's. It was fully up to code for its day but they did some funny things, mostly electrical. Only one 220v line in the whole house, for dryer, stove and AC. Fridge not on its own line. Hot and neutral wires all back with only the ground colored. That kind og shit. It originally had a long porch on one side of the house.

Enter Captain Fucknuts, the previous owner, sometimes around 1976. He converts the porch into an office. Its 8 feet wide by 20 feet long. Okay. The windows were left in and covered by that fake wood wallboard shit that was all the rage back in the 70's. Found out one day driving a nail to hang a picture. Its generally a bad sign when you do that and hear glass break in your wall. Pulled all that shit down and its drywall underneath thats been shimmed out a few inches to put up the wallboard and clear to two windows and their frames in the wall. "Outside" in the office its shims glued onto stucco with more wallboard on top and more glue holding them to the shims. The office has no windows at all btw.

Two outlets for the whole office, both daisy chained off an old exterior outlet that was ripped apart and buried behind the wallboard. All they did was use some electrical tape to connect the wires and they ran the wires right along the wall between the stucco and the wallboard to each outlet. Each outlet was just placed loose into a hole hammered away in the stucco. Oh and the light was still an old porch light on the wall and was controlled by a switch in the other room. Pulled up the carpets and it was padding put strait down on the old deck boards, *gaps and all!* Once the carpet was gone you could see the underside of the porch threw the decking!

>>643002
Are we brothers, Anon?
Does my dad secretly go to your house during his "work" hours, become your dad, and point out shoddy construction?

>>643008
>Putting up a wall
>Over a window

The fuckin' 70's, man.

>>642996
Aussies are that stupid that they need these baby regulations.

>>643002
>pic
>growling intensifies
someone make this?

>>643017
Could be. Is your dad 57 years old 6"4', 230 lbs, NANOMACHINES-SON-mode stronk, and wear glasses? When I was younger and lived at home, he did work really late hours.

If we have different dads, I bet my dad could totally beat up your dad.


>>643008
>>643018
>house was built in the 60's.
>stairs vary in length up to 3 in /step.
>basement stairwell enters into one of the fucking bedrooms on the first floor.
>walls so thin you can hear someone else rip a silent fart in the next room over.
>Old caulking in cracks and orifices everywhere.
>EVERYWHERE.

why are 60's houses such shit /diy/?

>>643031
Bummer, I don't think we have the same dad.

DAD STATS:
>Age: 47
>Height: 6'1
>Weight: 200
>Profession: Firefighter for 27 years
>Name: Steve
>Strength: Average

>>643032
I see your dadcard: Steve the Fireman , and raise you my trumpdad; Robert, Renovator of Souls:

DAD STATS:
>Age: 57 (-1 age)
>Height: 6"4' (+height)
>Weight: 230 lbs (+1 weight)
>Profession: Building inspector / Landlord & Rennovator. (- 1 hardcore)
>Name: Robert. (+- 0 title)
>Strength: A hybrid of Tom Silva (from "Ask: This Old House") & Brock Lesnar. (+1 strength)
>Rage Level: +5 when at home depot, +10 when at lowes.

If your dad is still alive, he is sent to the shadow realm. If his lifepoints reach zero, place him in the graveyard.

>>643038
Steve doesn't stand a chance.

Forgot rage levels
>Rage level: +5 Home Depot, +10 Lowe's, transcends the mortal plane of anger at Harbor Freight

>>642979
IMHO for a personal use building you should be able to do what you like. However if you want insurance without proof of fallowing the codes ie. building inspection, LOL nope, want to sell to someone down the road, best of luck and no soup for you.

Course when it comes to commercial buildings and the like, then YES. I don't trust them to not fuckup like in Korea and have shopping malls collapse or like in China and build a bridge out of garbage with a thin layer of grey plaster to hide it.

>>642968
No, just part of the 3rd world section of the USA. I got high speed internet only last year. Fuck dial-up, man. Still no good cell reception yet.

>>643019
In days gone by I would take offence and contrive to refute your statement... but it's true. We took the piss for you electing bush... and now we have abbott.

>>643002
Fuck OSHA.

>>642979

Sad thing about codes is, I called whatever local authority is responsible for them in the city I work in two years ago to verify what kind of wiring I needed to use for a job and how it needed to be run above a drop-ceiling in a tanning salon (anon was doing IP camera system installs back then). The guy I talked to kept repeating that they don't inspect for it, and I kept replying, "I don't care if you don't inspect for it I have to do the job right to protect my company and the customer." So it's like even the building code folks give no fucks which was annoying as shit when all I wanted was a straight answer.

>>643002

I do something similar. Anytime I visit a new place I immediately look for the fire exits and make sure they're up to code, or at least decent enough to work if something happened when I was occupying the building.

I spent 7 years installing, maintaining, surveying, inspecting, etc. fire rated assemblies and let me tell you, the majority of people servicing and maintaining them are fucking idiots.

Pic related; from Lori's blog.

>>643139

They don't give straight answers on the phone for liability reasons. They won't okay or approve of something without inspecting it. Even if they don't look at them when inspecting, your state should have a publication adopted that dictates what you're looking for.

NEC, NFPA 101, IFC, etc. Most have addendum's so make sure you get those as well.

I walked through a hospital I used to work at with about 4 Fire Marshals and they weren't nitpicking every single violation; they seemed mainly concerned with missing ceiling tiles and penetrations in firewalls that weren't properly filled; didn't much care assemblies that didn't positively latch despite the fact that the same code, NFPA 80, references and requires all.

Truth be told, and I don't know your state so I'm speculating, you probably shouldn't have been messing with the wiring if you immediately didn't recognize what was needed, 14/2 for example for a protection rating of 15A, or how to properly run it's path. My state requires NFPA 72, 70, and NEC 2007. It's pretty damn clear how it should be at a minimum.

>>643145

All I was doing was running cat6 for an IP camera system. But my fucking boss was a major douche who knew the answer to all of these things but wanted to make me struggle because it was his way of "teaching" me, then would scream and withhold my pay if I didn't do something right but he would never say it was wrong until the job was done.

I ended up doing a lot of research online to find out what was up to code but it was a frustrating job. In the end, the customer was happy, everything was done right and my psycho boss was mad because he was always mad.

>>643150

>I ended up doing a lot of research online to find out what was up to code but it was a frustrating job.

So you ended up learning; nothing wrong with that at all. I presume you found a better boss to work for?

>>643140
d-dad?

>>643170

Lol. Seriously, anyone on DIY should make a habit of this. Even if it's only as simple as identifying the exits when you enter a building.

>>643140
The emergency exit at my work is terrifying.
To get out:
obtain key from key locker.
Unlock & unbolt internal door
Unbolt external door
Push emeergency exit bar
Squeeze through tiny alley over units air conditioning
Climb over propane and LPG tanks.

>>643237
you should call someone about that

>>642990
>watching diy construction shows
>no one wears safety glasses or gloves
>cuts every time

>one time a guy demos his 70-year-old kitchen
>tears up three floors
>never tested for asbestos

>>643140
That really looks like an alien abduction photo.

>>643237
In the event of an emergency ....you're going to die

>>643140
Shit, I do that all the time, except I always look above the door to check if the exit signs have the arrows are not pointing left and right.

>>643140
>I do something similar. Anytime I visit a new place I immediately look for the fire exits and make sure they're up to code, or at least decent enough to work if something happened when I was occupying the building.

What are you going to do about it when they're not up to code? Complain to your boss or the landlord?

>>643337
you can call osha anonymously and they'll come down on your boss like a ton of bricks. Only issue is if you played nice and talked to your boss first so he knows you've got a bug up your butt about it. Then you'll get canned.

if he doesn't have anyone to pin it on everything will probably go better than expected.

>>643237
You need to call whoever enforces the codes in your area and get them to do a fucking inspection of that shit.

>>643019
It's our unions. There's been a string of union-sympathetic governments and the safety standards they set have gotten out of control on the back of some worker deaths over the last few years. Not saying there's anything wrong with safety, but at some point it ties your hands and makes the job too hard to do.

>>643237
Sounds like it works perfectly. The building would have to be full of flaming poison gas before I'd try that exit

>>643019
The reality is that none of the smaller (sub-contractor) companies follow these rules.

Working on the roof of a 2 story building: What's a safety rail?

>>642938
>be in college.
>renting in Boston MA.
>Mission Hill area apt.
>Holes in the walls in some places.
>Heven't been repainted in decades.
>Floors are a fucking mess.
>No locks on most of the doors / have to install them myself.
>Parts of fire escape rusted through.
>Find nails, mothballs, and rat poop in the closets.
>unleash the dremmel.jpg
>Sharing with 4 other students.
>Only allowed max 3 people.
>Only 1 in 6 apartments are inspected by the city of boston.
>even when inspected, nobody gives a flying fuck.
>apartment has never been looked at.
>"this is one of the better apartments on the block anon!"

>>643431
You gotta get the fuck outta there, friend. How many college kids have died in fires in the past couple years? Move to Malden or something in that area, the slumlords haven't ruined it yet.

>>642990
>be apprentice cabinet maker in Australia
>mfw no union only guild
>literally no safety standards Inforced
>wake up every morning expecting to get maimed
>everyone is a cunt
>make same shit everyday
>work like a slave for 8 dollars an hour
>use MDF for nearly everything
>clear nose and throat in shower
>comes out brown and pink

You guys have it lucky

>>643519
you should invest in a decent respirator if your work wont give you one. All that urea formaldehyde in the dust isn't great for you.

>>643525
I have a good one but they are really uncomfortable
And yes, it is going to give us all cancer

>>643519
WorkCover you dipshit. Anonymously or otherwise, contact them and have the OH&S nazi's come visit your boss to remind him that it's best he doesn't kill his employees James Hardie style.

>>643337

I leave. Lol.

>>643431
>>"this is one of the better apartments on the block anon!"
That may be so, but if you didn't check the building code before renovating you probably made it so that the occupants are liable to die in a fire or something due to your negligence.

>>642979
>Codes and their subsequent adoptions are there for a reason

To make the local government and small business guaranteed income while allowing them to protect their own property values by forcing the citizenry to conform to certain standards. Being "safer" is a by-product, not the main reason for their existence. You can't get a permit in my area without promising to buy abunch of other shit. When I was getting a permit to build my garage, the county wanted me to get abunch of other permits to put in a side walk and pave the dirt road I live on. Doesnt make sense right? well that's because they thought i lived on the opposite side of my intersection that was paved. When they finally got it through their thick skulls that I was on the poor side of the street, they dropped their so called mandatory/non-negotiable additional requirements. You're a fucking idiot if you think the concept of permits exist to serve the people buying them.

>>643106
Where's this?
>>642938
Just get creative with what you need to build.

>>643562

Oh fuck off Alex Jones. I'm sorry you got the local shit end of the stick but your anecdotal travesty is hardly the majority.

I despise faggots like you. The permits don't even come close to paying the salaries of inspectors. You don't even fucking know enough to know you don't know enough.

Your little DIY example proves you've have very limited experience and you have no clue on the grand scheme of things.

>>643562

Also, what county and state are you in? I'd love to read their requirements.

>>643688
I bet your dad is an inspector and he takes bribes too.

>>643694

Hardly. I'm the mother fucker who puts his license on the permit so my customers can obtain them when they're developing a property.

>>643695

In other words, you dolt, I have no skin in the game. I don't pay for permits; I don't even factor them into quotes or final bills. I never pay them. Their existent is immaterial to me.

Don't get me wrong. Inspectors can be dicks but don't act like the permit fees are egregious. $175 for electrical work in the city of Atlanta. That's chicken shit.

I always flip the test switch on emergency lighting battery packs to see if their batteries are actually working.

>>642958

Post pics plox.

DIY Write up on Bone Fortress?

>>642958
>>643876
bones > pressure-treated wood as construction material erryday