/diy/ - Do It Yourself

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you should add a small fishing kit to that OP, fishing is one of the most reliable food sources in the wilderness

>>55118

Well, that's one of those environmental/situational things. Not a lot of good will a fishing kit do you if you live in Arizona or Nevada, miles and miles away from bodies of water.

socks
duct tape
porno
nalgene
iodine tablets
flint/steel
rubbing alcohol
needle/thread
hammer
gauze
bandana

that seems about right.

I'd throw a tarp in there. I think they have some small tarps that fold out pretty good. You could make a decent tent with that.

What about a blanket or something to keep warm?

>>55131
>lack of actual first aid
>porno
>nalgene instead of a decent canteen or wine skin

Clever little child. You almost had me going.

>>55135

That's what fire is for, you spoiled city kid.

> Here is a list of some items that are essential in a B.O.B. especially if you're serious about surviving.

Something seems to be missing from that list, OP...

+crossbow

>>55141

Back to /k/ with you. Those are entirely a situational/personal item and could potentially fuck you over harder being found with one by the authorities, and not having a proper license. (Depending on location.)

needs:

weapon
food
water filtration system (not just purification tabs, have both)
water vessels
ziploc bags (many uses including holding water)
map & compass
toothbrush
vaseline (no joke, has 1001 uses. firestarter(w/cloth), fishing bait, sunscreen, antiseptic, gun lubricant, etc., etc.)
cooking utensils
multivitamins
salt (especially if your in the desert)
hand crank flashlight/radio
gold & silver trade currency (a few ounces could definately come in handy)

Probably forgetting something else. Trying to remember what's all in my bag thats not in OP's.

>>55147

This is why you carry a laser pistol. Cops think it's a toy once you show the batteries.

Then you put a pinpoint hole through their heads.

>>55126
you must not be from arizona

YOU KNOW, FAGGOTS, IF YOU WANT TO PACK A BAG THAT WILL REBUILD CIVILIZATION ON ITS OWN, YOU MUST BE RETARDED

THIS IS WHAT AN ACTUAL "SURVIVAL" BAG SHOULD CONTAIN:
FOOD
WATER
MORE FOOD
MORE WATER
A FLASHLIGHT
BATTERIES FOR THE FLASHLIGHT
A LIGHTER
A BOX OF MATCHES

AFTER ALL, YOU DO REALIZE THAT "SURVIVAL" SITUATIONS ARE THOSE IN WHICH YOU ARE WAITING TO BE RESCUED, OR TRYING TO FIND A POPULATED AREA, RIGHT?

>>55162
What part of Arizona are you from? The nearest natural fishing source from where I live is at least 15 miles, maybe 20. Which isn't so bad if you have a car, but who knows what situation you'll be in with your B.O.B.

>>55165
YOU KNOW, FAGGOT, THE GOAL OF A BUG OUT BAG IS NOT TO BE RESCUED OR FIND A POPULATED AREA.

Lack of flashlights in this thread is pretty disappointing. There's some pretty epic LED options these days that pump out huge lumens and last for ages (weeks) in lower output modes. And you don't have to spend big bucks either.

>>55147
> Back to /k/ with you. Those are entirely a situational/personal item and could potentially fuck
> you over harder being found with one by the authorities

And not having a firearm might result in ending up in a mass grave.

It doesn't have to be a NFA-type zombie apocalypse gun but you should have _something_ and
49 out of 50 states now have some kind of CCW law in the books.

>>55179
YOU ARE MISTAKEN, MY GOOD GENTLEMAN
IF I WANTED TO SUSTAIN MYSELF OUT IN THE WILDERNESS, I WOULD PURCHASE ONE OF THOSE NEW VEHICLES WITH ENGINES THAT WORK ON THE PRINCIPLE OF "INTERNAL COMBUSTION", AND MODIFY IT SO AS TO TURN IT INTO A MOBILE HOUSE OF SORTS
BECAUSE I REALIZE THAT A BAG CANNOT POSSIBLY CONTAIN ALL THAT IS REQUIRED FOR AN ADULT MAN TO SUSTAIN HIMSELF

How bout rather than just making a list of shit to bring in your bag, what about skills?

Anyone have those survival prints of how to build basic shelters easily?
captcha :survived hinotiv

>>55176
I'm living in Tempe right now but ya there are plenty of places to go fishing in Arizona. 15 miles isn't far to go if your bugging out. I'd rather bring my gun than a fishing pole though.

>>55187
IF YOU HAVE ENOUGH MONEY FOR A DEDICATED BUG OUT CAR FULLY LOADED WITH SUPPLIES THAN YOUR IDEA IS BRILLIANT. YOU DIDN'T MENTION YOU WERE ACTUALLY A BILLIONAIRE. UNFORTUNATELY YOUR "SURVIVAL" BAG SUCKS EVEN IF IT WERE RELEVANT. I GUESS WHEN YOU'RE A BILLIONAIRE YOU CAN JUST STAY IN 5 STAR HOTELS AND NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT SURVIVAL.

>>55190
Nice. Can you fish in the town lakes? I know people fish in the canals and shit, but I don't think I would ever do that unless I was in a survival situation.

>>55147
In the kind of emergency situation that you're preparing for with a B.O.B., you really should have something on hand to persuade looters to go elsewhere. Or bears. You should assume that you will run into a bear while you flee. I don't care if there are no bears within 100 miles of where you live. Plan for having to fight off a bear. Just about everything else dies easier.

>>55138

irl medic here. what do you expect to be in a first aid kit? usually its bullshit like topical antibiotics and band-aids.

>gauze
>rubbing alcohol
>needle/thread

that does seem about right without overdoing it. maybe some bacitracin, but that doesnt take up much room.

>>55208
You can, but I wouldn't eat them unless I had to either.

also,

>>55074
>There are many variations depending on anything varying from personal opinions on what needs to be packed, to the type of environment you find yourself in, and all the factors that entails.
>personal opinions

>>55141
>thinks a weapon is important in his situation

>>55147
>Those are entirely a situational/personal item

if you're not ready to accept other people's opinions, then why did you even suggest it in your own opening post for this thread?

>>55209
unless you are flying a plane with a GAU-8 attached to it if you ever see a bear you should leave it the fuck alone.

>>55234
You've been watching too much Colbert Report. If I saw a bear I would definitely shoot that bitch and eat it up. I ate a black bear burger last weekend. It was delicious.

It also depends where your from and the temperature in said area

Where are you bugging out to?

I include:
Leatherman tool
extremely small red LED flashflight
packet with an emergency blanket
compacted roll of toilet paper.

>>55074
no one has toilet paper packed enjoy wiping your ass with plants fags

>@random arguing faggots

Theres two distinct types of BOB, one is for urban escapes (from town A to town B or for just hiding out on the streets) and one for serious wilderness survival shit (from town A to wilderness).

Each needs slightly different gear. Hence, sometimes a fishing line is useless and other times it will save your life.

What I recommend for a bare basics type #1 BOB is;
>money
>knife
>preserved food + opener if needed
>bottled water
>flashlight (etc)
>space blanket
>basic spare clothing

>>55165
Packing food is a waste of weight. The weeks we can live without it are more than enough for an adequately prepared survivor to find it. You're not hiking the AT.

If you are hiking the AT, carry high density energy food that doesn't spoil (dry meat and berries, saturated fats, sugar). Peanut butter is fantastic, nougat was the marching food of the Roman army, and sugary candy keeps morale up and doesn't spoil easily. Bait ants with it and you have another protein source, too.

Carry at all times: concealed pistol, Leatherman, pen and paper, lighter, 10-20 ft para cord woven keychain, sturdy belt, wool socks, boots.

3 day bag: 1 liter of water, 1 flask 151 or pure grain alcohol, 1 tarp, small first aid supplies (forget band aids. Gauze, sutures, painkillers, diarreha, activated charcoal, gram pos & neg antibiotics, gloves, chest seal, small clamps), flashlight w/extra batteries, 50 ft para cord, rifle & ammo, extra pistol ammo, hunting knife, fire starter, char cloth, hatchet.

>>55280
and we have a winner!!!!!!!!!!!!

money matafacks!!!!!!!!!! you need money 200 or 500 dollars doesnt take too much space and you can do a lot of shit with money and buy supplies you didnt think about ir deppending on the situation. You can buy bus tickets, stay in a moter or busy somethingh from a random guy in the woods

id correct you a bit OP:

Knife: Fixed blade or folding. - I would suggest fixed blade. you dont want a folding blade because moving parts = faster breaking/easier to break. get a strong sturdy fixed knife.

Water purification tablets - lets be realistic, a BOB is something your keeping at your house. this means your not going to be out in the middle of nowhere. this means water will be easy to come by. from stopping at a corner store and using there restroom to walking into a big office building and using there water fountain. i -would- suggest a thermos or water bottle though. possibly some kind of collapsable water tight sack so you can take up less space and fill it up when its time.

Duct tape
Zip-ties
Paracord or nylon cord
Knife sharpening tool
Emergency blanket - if you are refering to those foil blankets then yes, otherwise i disagree unless your using one of those hiker packs where you can store a blanket on the outside.

Tinder for starting fires- again, this shouldnt be hard to come by so I wouldn't worry. everything from pine needles to newspaper should be readily available.

I would suggest adding the following to the stockpile:

-lighter: yes i know we already have fire starting material, but a good lighter can make life so much easier. 2 fire starting options are better than one and for the size it doesnt hurt.

-50-500 cash: always a must in a non-"im in the middle of nowhere" survival

-light source: either a flash light w/ enough spare batteries for 5 refills, or one of those wind up rechargeable ones

-AM/FM walkman w/ spare set of headphones: radio is always good. enough batteries for 5 change outs

-sunglasses: obvious

-hat: obvious

-hand rag: obvious

- 1 box of 50 ziplock baggies: get good ones, not cheap, and not the zipper kind. never know when itll come in handy

-fishing hooks and a spool of line: again, always handy

-gardening shovel or military style spade: for digging bait

>>55487 cont

-small paper with different knot ties: useful for anything you might need to do. just a single sheet of paper folded up, not a book.

-a list of addresses and phone numbers of anyone you would possibly want to keep in touch with

-pencil, pen, sharpy marker, and a small notepad: useful for survival use and for time waster

-1 book you think you would like and have never read: keeping your moral up is important

-5x 9 volt batteries, 6-10x AA batteries: this does not include batteries needed for current devices. these are separate spares. never hurts to have them.

This is my bugout bag.

35 lbs total of HF pack equipment, complete with hand crank generator. Continuous slow cranking is enough to keep the receiver powered. You have to crank for a few minutes at medium speed to build up enough of a charge for TX though.

Thankfully, I'm in a group, so other people can pick up the slack for what others are missing.

Plus, I can add another 15 lbs of gear in my bag without adding TOO much strain.

This is supplemented with:
AR15, 1+4 30rd mags (I'm not looking to engage in WWIII)

And a soon-to-be Form 4 suppressed Ruger Mk III 22/45...perfect for dispatching vermin, dogs, etc. Quietly.

in my bag i have:
6inch fixed blade knife, half serrated back.
machete
light +2 sets of spare batteries
3x field dressings
water bladder, its a bag with a camel back pouch (not a camel back)
2x lighters
flint
10m of para cord
2 spare boot laces

my ideal bag would contain
1x mp5 /w 6 spare mags (too bad about it being illegal and all - not amerifag)
5x daily MRE (to bad thats a fuck ton of space)
1x G.E.C.K (too bad its fictional)

forreal im a college student and i have a B.O.B.

in it are a varying array of items. presently:

-75 liter backbacking bag.
therein
-sleeping bag
-first aid kit
-kabar knife
-magnesium fire starter
-crank radio with usb phone charger
-led maglite
-harmonica
-knife sharpener
-spool of twine
-spool of brass wire
-camping trash bags
-iodine water treatment
-emergency blanket
-leatherman
-machete
-socks, jeans, and underarmor
-a jar of peanuts
-duct tape
-ziplock bags
-compass
-2 one liter sigg water bottles
-other necessaries i grab on the way out of dodge


in relation to this topic i suggest survivalistboards.com
they have a lot of useful information after you sift through the people like "holy fuck the end is near"

>>55507
me again.
Quick question, how fast can you guys move with your bob, mine weighs next to nothing and i can still sprint and have near full mobility with it on, how heavy is yours/how much does it restrict your manoeuvrability?

>>55512
You keep your bare essentials in pockets, or on your belt.

If there's a life or death situation where you need speed, you dump your pack and retrieve it later.

>>55536
yeah cos you pursuers will respect your property and leave it where you did

srsly most of the 'advise' given out on here re SHTF will get you killed quicker than doing nothing

>>55546
They might. Who knows.

But the bottom line, if you're shedding gear for speed, what is in your pack is the least of your worries.

As said, all essentials in pockets, or on your belt.

What should be ON you:

1.) IFAK (first aid kit, trauma specific)
2.) Knife
3.) Firearm + ammo
4.) Flashlight + spare batteries
5.) Bic lighter
6.) Manganese / flint striker
7.) Some rope or paracord
8.) Map

>>55550
>They might. Who knows.

so civilization as we know it has ended, your being chased by a bunch of irate belligerent people, you dump a rucksack full of goodies
and they leave it alone
right o
As I said before, most of the advise on here is worse than worthless

mine has two parts, a bug in bag and a bug out bag. If i need to gtfo i can grab the smaller lighter bag out bag and be on my way. I also keep close tabs on youtube prepers and do a bit of research myself.

One thing i constantly see missing from them is 5 hour energy. If a natural or man made disaster were to happen. For 8 (10) hours a day i am asleep or in a very sleepy state. If something major were to happen in my country / area I theorize i would stay up for 24 hours. Getting everything ready, collecting friends / family who matter. Stocking up on other items or moving to my get away cabin / out of the area. If something wakes me up at 2am, i will not have time to fix a pot of coffee. Sure, natural adrenalin would keep me up, but for how long? I have of few of these with me. They are light, and cheap just like a hooker. While not great for you (also like a hooker) they get the job done.

But other than that, mine has standard stuff which i'll tell you about in my next post

>>55641
Standard stuff, i have
>a few days of food.
>1L of 5year life shelf water in small packets. >Several pairs of socks, boxers, shirt.
>also have hat, gloves scarf and thermal undies. Since i live up north if something were to happen in the winter it i can get down to -20 so i need to prepare for that.
>Rope
>knife
>radio / phone charger / flash light
>pot / pan for cooking
>Several forms of starting a fire
>paracord
>tent
>sleepinag
>batteries
>rain ponchos
>first aid kit
>other things im forgeting atm

I did take my bag out for a quick mile walk and found it to be devastatingly uncomfortable. So i am in the market for another bag to fit my shits. Suggestions? Cheap strong etc etc

A supply dump containing food, shelter etc is so superior to a BOB the 2 aren't worth comparing

>>55649

You may need the BoB to get to the shelter. Depending on what exactly happened and how far away you are and who you have with you. If you have your wife and kids then you'll need the BoB to get them there. They will not be able to do 40 mile hikes in a day. Espcially in say the dead of winter of the blistering sun in summer. If roads are blocked / closed down / out of gas, you might have to hike it instead of driving. Having both, considering a decent BoB is only 100-200-300 bucks. In addition, while going to your shelter the BoB items give you the chance to trade for something else you may have completely overlooked or ran out. What if your shelter is destroyed? What is your backup plan?

>>55653
not if you place your dump in a place which is within 1 days walk
I actually have several supply dumps in place

>>55655
True, but i highly doubt most people have that. Having a BoB gives them food / water whatever to live off of while you go to a friend or family members house which is out of any danger zone. It is no doubt your set up is closer to ideal, but a BoB is not worthless and can be nice to have.

Also in my bag i want to have a pen flare. And maybe a blow up life jacket (to conserve space) anyone know where to get the items for on the cheap?

>>55659
but it is neither hard or have to be particularly expensive to set on up
Carefully selected locations are obviously needed, rarely visited area's are common if you apply a little common sense in selecting the location
Additionally I see a lot of equipment which is just not needed, as 1 example fire steels or other exotic methods of lighting a fire. Disposable lighters are far more reliable and cheaper per unit to buy

How big would such a bag ideally be?
I'd think it would surely be at least 90 liters, if not more.

I don't have much to contribute in terms of items to add to it, but I'll suggest you roll your clothes tight together - That way they take up less space than when they're folded.

>>55677
as big as you feel comfortable

i always want to assemble a B.O.B but then i realize I want to throw everything i own into it.

here's the thing about those bags though:

If there were ever an actual reason to grab it, it probably wouldn't be your everyday emergency that would require grabbing it. And if there was some serious shit going down, a first aid kit and a tarp really isn't going to help you much unless you can get far away from civilization.

So my bag would be more /k/ style. If you aren't prepared to defend your life, than you aren't prepared in my mind.

>>55659
you dont need a blow up life jacket, just take your pants off, grab them by the waist, pull them down into the water and tie leg legs together to trap the air in them.

>>55690
That would be a good method until you get holes in your pants. At which time it doesn't hold much air. The life jacket is not for me. I am a decent enough swimmer. The jacket would be for a child or an adult who can not swim very well. As well as to trade since they can be used for multiple useages.

I've found a really good firestarter to be Swedish Firesteel. You can buy it online or at most outdoor places. It's very high quality, waterproof, and provides sparks bright enough to signal if you need to.

BAM
Check out this motherfucker! It's got light, it's got AM/ FM/ and mother fucking weatherband radio!
>>"But anon, what if it run's out of batteries?"
Fuck batteries, this shit is solar or hand crank!
>>"Seems a little useless for just being just a radio and a light"
Shut your goddamn mouth, I'm not done. This baby has a AC and USB outles for charging your toys. MSRP is 35, i got one in each of my bags.


Other items in bags(each):
Weatherproop, rubber lined bags containing(see below)
2 MRE
25x25 Tarp (onetotal)
Spare batteries (common sizes)
Fruit & Vegetable seeds
Fixed knife
Nylon rope
Crowbar
Lock picks
Duct tape
Zip ties
Trail markers
Tarp clamps
Ibuprofen, neosporin, and gauze
Magnesium firestarter
Wire saw
High density food brick
Collapsible fishing pole ect.
Bar of soap
Spray paint (unique to bag's owner)
Pocket reference guide
Pocket book on local edible plants
D-Clips
Sleeping bags
Water purification tablets
Stakes
Dust Masks(3 each)
Poncho
Canteen

Whishist(Shit that needs to get done)
Alcohol- Rubbing is pretty lite, but I think i might want vodka for utility.
Money
Teabags
Penut butter or dry nuts
Compas
Water
Ammo-I'll need to grab my gun from my safe on the way out
Wal-Mart Gift Card- Just as untraceable as cash, and harder to steal
Laminated copy of important papers

The fuck am I missing?

>>55788
don't forget to bring a towel

>>55788
what important papers?

>>55807

Passport, proof of insurance, license, weapons license if you have one, marriage license, Recent year's tax return, Maybe even your birth certificate and SSN card if you're feeling freaky ^_-.

The suggestion came to me when the the quake hit japan. People had nothing left, and had a hard time proving who they were ect. Just think "What papers do I need if my house and all it's contents were to be destroyed."

>>55788
Yes this is something like what i have. But word to the wise, check how much charging volt the one you want to buy can put out. A lot can't charge and Iphone because the Iphone has higher volt battery than say my droid 2.

>>55807
Things like:
>passport
>drivers liciences
>SSN card
>FOID (or other gun cards)
>active military perosnal might want carry whatever paperwork would come in handy for that idk not in military / navy etc.
>maps
>wills
>stocks (assuming world doesn't implode)

>>55507
this is a 3 day MRE that'll fit easily at the bottom of your bag

http://beprepared.com/product.asp?pn=FM%20R360&sid=GOOGLELA&EID=GLAFM%20R360

>>55507
>5x daily MRE (to bad thats a fuck ton of space)

MAINSTAY Calorie Food Bar measures 6 3/8 by 5 1/2 inches and 1 1/8 inch thick and weighs 1 1/2 lbs. One pack has enough to feed a single person for 3 whole days. The MRE pack doesn't have any different flavors because this is an emergency MRE pack. That doesn't mean it tastes like dog shit either. The pack contains 9 lemon flavored cakes each containing 400 calories. It says it's been enriched with vitamins and minerals that humans require but I don't see any protein in this. Definitely can't live off this stuff but in an emergency it will keep you alive for 3 days. Amusing of course you packed 3 days worth of water.

Guys, this is supposed to be an emergency/survival bag; not a "I'm going camping" bag. The only shit you have to carry with you:
- Swiss army
- Flashlight
- Duct tape
- Flint et Steel
- First aid kit

>>55837

Alive, yes.If you're doing anything other than sitting around, you're going to need more than that. The link below calculates your calorie needs.

http://www.exrx.net/Calculators/CalRequire.html

One thing missing for everyone bag is some form of stress reliever. If things get bad enough that you need to "bug out" then chances are your going to be in a high stress situation. In this kind of situation having something to help you unwind can be a matter of survival. books, deck of cards, small puzzles, harmonicas, yo-yos, picutre/coloring book crayons, or even something as simple as a few sticks of gum or hard candy


>>55807
Also make a list of every item in your home and try to include serial or identification numbers, when and where purchased, the receipt and its estimated value. Use a tape recorder and make an audio list. Supplement a written list with photographs of furnishings and other valuables in their normal setting in the home. Videotape a tour of your home and garage. Keep one copy of this stuff with you in your bag and another copy either with a friend living in another town or in a safety deposit box. You should include a family photo album in this pack.

>>55849
>implying you die after not eating for 24 hours

Sure is amerifat in here.

>>55875

The calculator shows what your body needs to efficiently run for different levels of activity. Your needs will differ by your build, and an #occupy movement will require a lot less calories than a full day march.

>>55849
You don't need a calorie calculator. The recommended calorie intake is 2000 a day. Three of those 400 kcal cakes a day is 1200 calories. Yes, you will be loosing weight if you eat the packs like they recommend. Then again you could always eat 4 n half of the cakes and that'd give you 1800 calories. The pack will last you 2 days instead of 3.

>>55884

Every BODY's needs are different. My 90lb wife doling light lifting doesn't need the same amount of food as a 300lb body builder performing heavy labor.

>>55890

this brings us to a good point

dont overstrain yourself when in a survival situation, try to minimize the calories are using, work at a light pace

surprised that no one has suggested this already, but you should bring with you a brazilian style hammock, you can pick them up for like $20-50 online and they can fold up and fit in a small bag, this is essential because it gets rid of the need for a tent, you can set them up almost anywhere and you also don't sleep on the ground so you are safe from insects and most animals as well as you actually get a good nights sleep in these things because it's comfortable and is way better for your back than a sleeping bag on the cold floor, you also don't need a pillow either,

PS get a fabric single person hammock, not one of those ridiculous netted ones with the long bars to stretch it out, it needs to bunch up in at the ends, hell you can make your own for like $10 to fit you perfectly

worried about rain? don't be, just get a small tarp or other water proof material to throw over you and your set! again it beats sleeping on the ground in a tent! and it's way easier and you get a better nights sleep

This thread reminded me how I have an honest to god flamethrower in my closet and the tank is inside a backpack.

I also have a crossbow bag and plenty of bolts.

Hmmm.....

>>55927

The problem with hammocks is the need for trees.

ITT: Manchildren preparing for their fantasies.

>>55176
>15 miles, maybe 20

LOL Are you legs broke?

ITT: people that have no clue about anything argue like they know every fucking thing because they can't think of any other way to do something then argue over semantics.

God damn it, /diy/, enough with this this.

My bug out pack is a 35mm film canister. Those tiny things you can fit in your pocket. I can make fire, fish, trap, make tools, and repair clothing with the stuff in one of those. I made several and keep them in every vehicle I own, in my house, a few places out on my property, and I always carry one with me where ever I go.

they've come in handy a few times. I've only once used one for effect by going out and living for 2 weeks in the woods, relying solely on my clothing and one of those in my pocket. The first day and night were rough, but after that I had plenty of food, tools, and a shelter with fireplace. That was in hilly temperate woodland terrain with a narrow river in the area in the summer.

I plan on doing it again during winter.

>>55911
But, he's benching 350lbs, for 2 hours a day, out there in the wilderness!!!!

>>56008

Care to share the contents of your BOB min?

>>56008
If you do that would you mind bringing a camera and posting some pictures when you return?
Also what, specifically, do you keep in them?

>>56035
but where will he keep his film?

I've been waiting for this thread

Rice
Fleshlight
Stainless steel bowl
matches
bag of oil
first aid kit
9mm ammo
battery
flashlight
saw knife
kitchen kinfe
iphone
solar charger station
kindle
water purification
water bottle w/ filter
Lot's of Alcohol(I don't drink but you could sell it)

>>55280
Actually, a fishing line can ALWAYS be useful. It's lightweight but relatively strong, so can be used to tie whatever you need together, or make traps, or stitch a wound. That last bit makes it quite useful as part of your first-aid kit.

Two things missing from all of these bags:

1. wire saw - extremely lightweight and compact, but highly useful for acquiring firewood. Having firestarters is nice, but if you can't do more than break small branches off of trees, you're gonna spend inordinate ammounts of time finding fuel for your fire.

2. Quinoa - Google it. God-tier survival food. Contains all essential vitamins and minerals as well as fat and protien. Shit's amazing and cooks in 15 minutes or can be eaten raw while on the march.

>>56020
>>56035
No pics,

-magnesium strip that's blade sharp on one side
-flint rod that has a sharp point on one end
-piece of steel hacksaw blade that has half the back side knife sharp with two small holes drilled in it
-10 feet of 25lbs-30lbs non-monofilament fishing line, a length of it is wrapped around the bottom half of the hacksaw blade knife to act as the handle
-small wire fishing hooks
-large-eye sewing needles
-10 feet of 9-11 gauge annealed support wire
-wire saw

From that you can make lots and lots of stuff depending on your surroundings. There should be some room for other things, like parts to make it easier to make wire snares or other tools. Don't pack matches, they run out too quickly. Learn to use magnesium, flint, and steel to start fires.

Bring Cocaine, Weed, and Alcohol. Drugs can be used for many many things in a survival setting.

>>56069
>>56069
you must have never been camping. forests are full of dead fall wood.

>>56069
A wire saw is better used for getting wood to make tools with. In 99% of the woods I've been in there's plenty of dead fall to make fires with. Even if you only count the leaning dead fall that is drier than the stuff on the ground.

>>56069
A wire saw? I've actually used one of those things and they are worse than worthless. I've bought several of them over the years and they either break as soon as you go to use them, fall apart, or snap like a guitar string (Those of you who have been cut by a snapping guitar string...now imagine you're out in the woods, dirty and sweaty. Not good.)

If there's one bit of advice you take from this thread it's this; Stay the fuck away from wire saws.

I'll look into Quinoa though. I may be able to find it at the immigrant stores in my area.

not creative but lets face it:
1.lots of money
2.new cellphone (cheap and shitty + prepaid)
if you dont have money you re fucked

>>56086
>if you dont have money you re fucked
That is where you are very wrong, the less money in a BOB the better.

>>56082
Not that guy, but a wire saw is great. You are either buying them too cheap, too short, or you are not using them correctly.

You don't need much pressure and you can't cut fast with them. If you try to cut fast they will break very quickly because they get too hot. A long wire saw is best because you can make long slower movements that allow the wire to cool.

>>56091
i you wanna run around in the forrest - yes you are right.
but i would never sleep among bugs and shit... you are much harder to find among other people--- well it depends how they are looking for you and what you have done...
i guess there are situations where youre better of in the city

>>56086
Cellphones don't work in my area.
Money is worthless in a survival situation except to start fires with or crumpled and used as insulation in clothing.

>>56101
i thought its mainly about GTFO
but yeah if you wanna survive youre right ofc

>>56086
$100 in small bills
a roll of quarters
pre-paid phone card
and if your paranoid or just REALLY like to plan ahead a gold coin. Standard gold coin is worth around $1000 and will never loose value unlike dollar bills. Keeping your BOB next to the door with a gold coin in it is not a good idea. Keep it hidden near the door so you can grab it on the way out. Check out
>>54589
for ideas on where to hide it. Alternatively gold jewelry is good but you'll want to keep it hidden.

>>56116
If you just want to GTFO then pack a passport, money, and plane ticket. Nothing else is needed.

>>56101

Most survival situations will be urban. Money is very important if your bag is missing an unforeseen item, or you need to safely get from place to place. Large amounts have little use in a rural environment, but it still has it's place. It's a lightweight resource that I couldn't see NOT putting in my BOB

>>56062
Fishing line for trapping? No. A lousy field mouse would chew through it in a second.

Also fuck wire saws. Get yourself a hatchet or an ax.

>>56050
>fleshlight
You forgot the Aneros.

>>56082
>>56080
>>56078

I go camping several times a year and use my wire saw every time with no issues. Dead fall wood is nice as long as it's not rotten, but relying on an unknown makes me nervous. What if it's too large to manage? what if it's too small to be useful? What if you're not in a dense forest, but sparse scrub brush/pine woods? Having a wire saw takes the uncertainty out of the equation. I have two just in case one breaks, but I'm still on my first one after 4 years and probably 100+ uses.

Pro tip: Buy a good saw. Take it home and disassemble it. Get some 4 to 5in. lengths of oak doweling and some 12 to 14 gauge wire crimps. Loop the wire around the dowels so that you have sturdy, comfortable handles and put your heavier-than-stock crimps on the wire. Double the end of the wire back on itself into the crimp and solder for additional security. Also, when using don't pull too hard, let the wire do the work or else you'll overheat it and it will snap.

Used properly and decently reinforced for strength and comfort, a wiresaw should gice you years of trouble free use and open up more hassle-free options for acquiring useful ammounts of firewood.

>>56149
>Most survival situations will be ONCE urban.

fixed

Hurricanes, fires, riots, wars, tidal waves, earthquakes, etc tend to remove all real use for money since the establishments where you buy things are gone, looted, or simply closed due to the owners bugging out before you got there.

>>56162
Just because you suck at using a wire saw doesn't mean everyone else does. You're like one of those people that sucks at sports and hates sports for that reason.

>>56230

But the currency system will still likely exist. If it doesn't the OUNCES won't hurt. And keep in mind, most bug out situations aren't apocalyptic, they're social.

how can this be left out?

bump

I wouldn't bother with any electronics. That's just extra weight for you to carry.

>>56542
define electronics? flash light? radio? phone? xbox? I can see not bringing extra controllers for an xbox, but the other 3 i see uses for.

>>55147
You shitting me?

A Gun is the most important thing in such a situation.

If you can't own one, discontinue browsing and serve your communist country.

>>55147
>being found with one by the authorities, and not having a proper license.

ITT: Commonwealth citizens cannot into US firearms laws.

Back to England with you, some of us are Citizens not Subjects.

>>56508
I have been in over tons of SHTF events in my life all of which where hurricanes and do you know how much times currency helped? The answer is 0. If you pull out money to bribe that man of african decent lotting that public's store he will stab/shoot you. After SHTF the last thing you think of is trading people and I have put my gun to guys and took their water and canned goods while they cry and offer me their shit if i let them take the goods. After Andrew my town was a fucking mess and my gun was the best thing I had to fight my issue at hand.

tl;dr
Gun > Currency

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzpRh-ZE9Mo

Id like to add an idea I just had in the shower.

I would add a
>small funnel or large peice of foil
in order to collect rain water. If you live in an area that doesnt get frequent amounts of rainfall, you might only get 10 minutes of shower in a week or so.
If your SHTF scenario requires that you get out of an urban area and most top level water supplies in your area are contaminated with all sorts of bacteria this would be quite the help I imagine.


If someone can see the impractical side to this let me know, like I said its just an idea I had.

>>56969
>and I have put my gun to guys and took their water and canned goods while they cry and offer me their shit if i let them take the goods.

Any particular reason why you robbed those people?

>>56008
>>56075
why no razor blade in there?

>>57190
I actually thought I listed them. 1 razor blade is usually all that will fit in with the other stuff, if they are that kind. I normally buy safety razor blades and take those off since they are much smaller. I can have 5 of them that way, though they are less sturdy.

Everybody here forgot the most essential thing to have in their b.o.b :

A MOTHERFUCKING SNUGGIE MOTHERFUCKERS.

pic related bitches

A motherfucking gun is great. no matter what is the only thing that is better to have it and dont need it, than need it and dont have it.

My town flood last year, 95% of the houses were flooded.My house was shelter for 10 people. friends and family, we were in the second floor since the first one was flooded like 2 or 3 feet.

People in the street were doing just 1 thing. Stealing, everything they could steal. I scared 3 guys away from my house with just asking "Do you need anything?" when they were getting closer to the entrance, they couldnt see me in the second floor. Fucking rats the good thing is that it was just for 2 days, so no real riots, but make it a week or 2 and shit is gonna happen.

>>57887
not troll. but please tell me more. i'd like to hear from someone who actually survived a disaster did. did you have a bag? did stored food last long enough? was there any unrest in the houes hold? what would you have done if riot came by? would you have shot them?

:< only few who actually thought of taking alcohol along. Vodka can be used for so many purposes ~cleaning wounds, drinking, firestarter, currency

I'd take a bike for as long as possible... Better for weaving in and out of traffic then a car.

>>58944
As a former bike messenger, I can tell you that weaving in and out of traffic is an art if you're not going at a snail's pace. You WILL get doored/miss turns/hurt yourself if you aren't experienced in crowded biking conditions.

>>55648
>>55648
large OD alice ruck sack with frame. That's what I use for mine. It works fuckin awesome

>>58955
>As a former bike messenger
>You WILL get doored/miss turns/hurt yourself

Riding with brakes and a freewheel will help a lot (apologies if you were not a brakeless fixie type messenger)

>>58001
I didnt have a bag, but i put all of my food, purifiers, water etc, on the second floor. By the time the water reach my house it was impossible to get out of town, and if the water have raised more then i would be death. There was not other place to run.

I dont own a gun so i couldnt shot anybody, but in the nigh people couldnt see me on the second floor and just saying "whats going on?" it was enough for thiefs to turn back. They were not actually real thiefs just some guy who saws an opportunity to get something for free.

Also dont give shelter to anybody, i almost regret helping my friend who spent the night there, he and his wife are pretty cool and everything, plus she was pregnant at the time. But his in laws, they were the real problem. I didnt even knew the mother in law and she was a bitch. demanding stuff and shit. bad experience, really bad. I wonder what if we had to stay longer there? not just 2 days, but 2 weeks?

In that situations its better not to be a nice guy.

>Fire starting tools: Tested and proven reliable BY YOU.
>Tinder for starting fires

someone tell me why a 10 pack of lighters wont work

>>58894

You forgot the most important one: Distilling water for drinking. Otherwise you play botchulism roulette.

>>61081
>Lighters run out of fuel
>shitty plastic lighters can break
>take up valuable space

Having a lighter or two is conevnient, but always have a back up.

>>61084

You botched that word pretty bad, anon.

SO MUCH DOING-IT-WRONG I.T.T.!

When preparing for emergency survival, prioritize the needs of your body. Depending on your climate, the order of these needs may change slightly, but you need to provide:
>Water, or the means to filter or melt it
>Shelter, or the means to find or construct it
>Fire -- at least 2 ways to make it
>Food, or the means to hunt or gather it

These 4 items are the bare minimum. I also think you should have the following:
>First Aid
>Weapons
>Tools
>Communications
>Clothes
>Lights

Start with the needs, then add things that would be useful, then pare it down for weight.

Fellow Survivalist here.
Check out http://survivalcache.com/6-tools-to-survive-anything/

I love SurvivalCache!

dental floss is very useful and compact

This thread excites me.

What I have:

2 person tent
down sleeping bag
lots of bandages and other basic medical supplies
snake bite kit
crank emergency radio/cell phone charger (very small and light weight)
folding shovel/saw
some knives
mess kit & multi-utensil
some hygiene products
flashlight
batteries
water proof matches
several things to start fire
rope.

Im sure there are some items missing, feeling lazy right now.

Surprisingly my bag is lightweight, granted I have some more stuff to add but I can run with it and the tent doesnt make it off balance like I thought it would. I have some food set aside I need to put into my bag and need to focus on water. I am also considering getting a solar roll up mat that I could recharge batteries with. Another item I to need is a good weapon, for a while I was thinking about a gun but I've been watching a lot of walking dead recently and it really showed me some really good advantages of owning a crossbow over a gun. My bag isn't designed for zombies, just a survival situation but its still fun to prepare for it. Picture related its my bag.