/diy/ - Do It Yourself

>>403419
>eating bricks
Sounds unpleasant

What's the shelf-live for jerky kept in an air-tight container? Could be a much more palatable option.

>>403430
Pretty much MRE crackers. Simple op, I'd probably add a bit more salt to make it more palatable.

>403432
Jerky keeps longer in a breathable cloth bag.

>>403434
Well shit, it looks like it is working again.
>>403433
I wouldn't really suggest cooking it with more salt but a little on the cracker after it come out of the oven would be fine. Throw some worms in there for extra protein.

>>403434
Everything I read says to use mason jars and to heat the jar before storing the food. Heating thr jar causes the air inside to condense as it cools, creating a vacuum effect that drastically decreases any bacteria's chance at spoiling the food.

>>403441
Water is what spoils jerky, mate. It can be kept for years in a cloth bag.

ANZAC biscuits

Makes 30, depending on size.

1 cup flour
1 cup caster sugar
1 cup desiccated coconut
2 cups rolled oats
125g butter
2 tbsp golden syrup
1 tsp baking soda
3 tbsp boiling water
1. Heat oven to 180C (160C fan bake). Line two baking trays with nonstick baking paper. Place flour, caster sugar, coconut and oats in a bowl and stir to combine. Make a well in the centre.

2. Place butter and golden syrup in a saucepan to melt, or microwave in a bowl to melt. Dissolve baking soda in boiling water. Add melted ingredients and dissolved baking soda to dry ingredients and mix to combine.

3. Roll spoonfuls into balls and press onto prepared baking trays, allowing space for biscuits to spread while cooking.

4. Bake for 15 minutes or until firm and golden brown. Remove to a wire rack to cool, and enjoy!

Just copied and pasted. These are delicious and they were designed to be sent on slow, slow boats from NZ and Australia to our troops in turkey and north Africa during WWI. They taste better fresh but they'll last you ages

>>403446
>butter
Uwotm8

>>403449
U avin a giggle at me recipe?

Does anyone have a Pemmican recipe/storage method?

>>403463
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pemmican
>Traditional preparation

>>403467
Perfect, thanks!

>anticivilization thread
>hur hur 2-ingredient survival recipes
You could make up any 'recipe' along this standard. Just mash food together. Look, here's one I invented called Poolaja.

1 cup oats
1 tablespoon honey

Instructions:
Clean your hands. Then, consider your teeth and where they are placed. In order to survive effectively, you will need to be vigilant and seem tough and angry all the time to prevent attacks by other predators. Grit your teeth, and widen your lips so that you have the correct expression. Take your cup of honey, which you have just shaken out of a bee hive and strewn with woven dried grass, and pour it into the oats you harvested in my previous tutorial. Be careful not to needlessly spill the honey- one drip could be the difference between life and death. Take your flint knife and gently fold the honey into the oats. Flatten and portion into cubic inches, the ideal size for a survivor's midday meal. You have just mad a great nutritous snack: honey has antibacterial properties and reduces allergies, so your snack will keep fresh and delicious. Honey and oats are high calorie foods, good for when you're running naked to catch a bear in the woods or swimming against ferocious currents. Oats also have minerals and fiber which should help you when pooping under trees. Congratulations.

Jerky and peanut butter, that will do.

>>403419
Incorrect hardtack recipe. The purpose of hardtack is to bake most of the moisture out (if not all of it). This is why hard tack is baked at low temperatures for many hours, and many times baked 2 or 3 times after the initial baking.
When you only bake 30 minutes a side and then let it stale, you aren't removing nearly as much moisture, therefore it will spoil much faster. And think of the moisture in the air that your are exposing it to.

Don't listen to a hardtack recipe that takes less than 3 hours to complete.

>>403482
The honey would go off.

>>403729
>honey
>go off

>>403729
wat

>>403717

Yep, if it doesn't chip your teeth, it's not hard tack. I used to carry it hiking, and I'd soak it in my morning coffee to get it soft enough to eat.

>>403729

Honey never goes bad.

>>403729
lel omg, you got a smile out of me 10/11

My honey goes off on me every day after work...fuck my life, but I'm tryin...

>food that lasts forever

its honestly a stupid concept when you think about it, since once you eat it, its gone forever.
you should really concentrate on knowing what you are able to eat in whatever area you might be lost in.

Frankly, nobody eats jerky these days because its a trail food, they eat it because jerky is delicious.

I'll just be over here, drying out this fish for travel and cooking up a porcupine and drinking a bit of pine needle tea.

>>403802
what I actually mean to say is, that while knowing how to make things last is important, lasting forever is certainly not needed.

Hard tack is a military food, not a single traveler food. It takes a lot more preparation than other foods, and you shouldn't rely on your 'everlasting gob stoppers' and what not.

>>403739
>Honey never goes bad.

On the contrary. Honey has a shelf life of a few years, depending on its water content. If the water content is too high it ferments.

Specimens of honey from tombs are
a) good quality honey to begin with
b) didn't get wet
c) probably actually dried out over time

To make honey last as long as possible, you freeze it.

It's honestly not a big deal - honey does last a very long time - but it does not last "forever".

sources:
I'm a beekeeper.

>>403838
ok, so if i buy honey that comes in a glass jar, and its vacuum/sealed, it wont go bad?

>>403838
>If the water content is too high it ferments.
You say that like it's a bad thing...

>>31734577

>>403838

Seconding this. Low water content is exactly what allows honey to last so long. The bees dry it by forcing air over it with their wings before they seal it in wax.

It's actually so dry after being produced that that microbes can't live in it, but when exposed to air it will start pulling in moisture and eventually become wet enough that it loses this property.

>>403880

It'll go south one way or another eventually, even if that means the sugars had to fall apart spontaneously. Entropy always wins.

>>403925
Honey also contains a small amount of hydrogen peroxide. This is why is has anti-microbial properties.

>>404014
Ignoring special types with antibiotic properties honey generally is anti-bacterial purely because it's so sweet — same basic deal as sugar in jam or marmalade.

>>403838
I'd honestly not worry about 'freezing' your honey.

the oldest found honey was 2000 years or or some shit and apparently it was fine.

so unless you're mixing honey with water to make mead, you shouldnt have any sort of decomposing issues if you keep it in your pack.


Honestly though as a survival food, honey doesnt strike me as much more than a seasoning, an extra thing. Ever try to eat more than a spoonful of honey at once?

>>404029
huh? my jam gets mouldyin 1 month if I open it and don't eat it

you can bake hard biscuits 2 or three times on low heat just to make sure all moisture is gone.

>>403419
problem is, hardtack tastes like shit

.........

youre probably better off just taking some ziplock bags and putting dry breakfast cereals and dried fruits in them.

if you want to go crazy, go out and buy a kitchen vacuum heat-sealer, so then you can have vacuum-packed, heat-sealed bags of dried foods.

>>403419
does this work with whole wheat flour?

because white flour is basically nutritionally useless. and if i'm desperate enough to be eating bricks i want to at least get some nutrition from it

You don't need an apocalypse for these foods to come in handy.

Just lost your job? Fucked by your utility bills or an unexpected expense? A little tight on money and food this month?

Then dip into the stores of long lasting staples you prepared ahead of time in your relative time of plenty just in case.

I made some hardtack today. Some of the pieces cracked in the oven. Kinda "swelled up." Did I not poke the holes deep enough?

>>403838
How many bees do you own, an approximate will do.

>>405138
Bump for help.

>>405216

Nah man, I wouldn't do that to you. I'll go out and count each and every one just for you.

My question is why? food thats super preserved like that wouldn't have a lot of nutritional value, you might as well eat bark and leaves.

>>405894
>food thats super preserved like that wouldn't have alot of nutritional value

See: Pemmican

>>404314
Anti-BACTERIAL. Moulds aren't bacteria, and they're much more resistant to high levels of sugar.

Keep your jam/marmalade in the fridge, it'll last longer before moulding (you should be able to get 3+ months this way, nearly a year if you're lucky). Also good idea never to dip a knife or spoon back into the jar if you just licked it clean.

>>404375
>problem is, hardtack tastes like shit
That's why you don't eat it by itself.

>>404382
>does this work with whole wheat flour?
That recipe is probably not worth trusting anyway but no, probably not. Nearly all of the fat is removed when you make white flour, and the fat in wholemeal will make the biscuits go off faster. This is why wholemeal has a shorter shelf-life than white flour, why brown rice can go off (ideally should be refrigerated if stored for long periods) but white rice lasts so well at room temperature.

>because white flour is basically nutritionally useless.
That's overstating it a bit but I know what you mean. Anyway this is survival food, the standards are different — calories > nutritive value.