/diy/ - Do It Yourself

Won't work. Walls will rust and collapse without proper drainage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3EAJex1RVo

All I found was this.

op shipping containers are not meant to be buried. i wholly support your idea, just use a culvert pipe or septic tank instead. it'll probably be ultimately, cheaper, anyway, and as a bonus it won't kill you. also, on the topic of things that kill you, VENTILATION! ventilation.

>>389539
>Any tips or ideas?
Yes. Don't do this at all, it's a money pit.

If you want to make an underground house, pour it with concrete. The thin steel walls of a shipping container are not meant to support the amount of compression that soil has.

sounds cool op!
you can add some bracing fairly easy to prevent the walls from caving it. use angle iron and and bolts (or weld). Put the container on a bed of crushed stone for drainage and install weeping tile around the perimeter. Paint the outside in several coats of foundation tar before you bury it( 2 prevent rust and water penetration). You can insulate on the outside with a few inches of rigid foam insulation. Don't get discouraged by trolls with no motivation/ imagination/talent.

>>389586
>The thin steel walls of a shipping container are not meant to support the amount of compression that soil has.

They are designed to stack 10 high, with 80,000Lbs in each.

>>389641
i think he meant lateral compression

people around the world are building house, hotels, warehouses, barns, you name it out of shipping containers. putting them in the ground gets a little tricky when it rains. a little pea gravel underneath isn't going to be enough, water will find the easiest path, and an empty container is easier than going through the surrounding dirt.
build it into a hillside, and put in plenty of drain pipe. all around, not just underneath. drainfield pipe on the sides, and on top too. all draining to an area much lower than your floor.

>>389643
>i think he meant lateral compression
same corrugated steel used in bridges

>>389641

This thread again.

You don't seem to understand that the sides and roof of the shipping containers can not take the load that soil will put on it. All the load in those stacks is put on the frame.

Enjoy your metal coffin.

>>389644
this post covers this >>389598
Crushed stone and weeping tile. Google it. Its what professionals use.

>>389648

See how the bridge desk is supported perpendicularly to the corrugations? These supports aren't found in shipping containers. Why? Because they aren't designed to support lateral loads.

I wouldn't try and compress the walls of a shipping container with surrounding soil. I'd assume they would deform.

>>389648
You're joking, right?

Just make sure the surrounding earth walls are held back with proper stonework. Think landscaping retaining walls, will drain, keep pressure off the container, and allow you to bury the top of it fine. Make sure to keep drainage in check, make sure the connection to the surface is waterproofed. Solar cells and a wind generator/ waterwheel can take care of most energy needs, a farmer market water tower can take care of water/water pressure with a wind and/or solar pump for the well. Just remember to get old fashioned steel/iron type rechargable batteries.

And for ventilation, check for these.

>>389682
growop in BC?

How much for the conatiner op?

>>389724
>growop in BC?
West Sussex

>>389726
2000-3000$

I wanna know how much it would cost just to make a simple house like the one in the OP? Anyone know? With just a basic kitchen bathroom livingroom and bedroom. I'd probably get most of my furniture needs at thrift shops.

>>389543
>>389545
>>389641
>>389643
>>389648
>>389651
>>389657
hnnnggg


http://www.containerhandbuch.de/chb_e/stra/index.html?/chb_e/stra/stra_03_01_00.html

2 seconds of googling

fallen hallys

>>389778 this be me
Tl;dr

"The (Bold)load-carrying element of all box containers(/Bold) is a steel framework, consisting of four corner posts and two bottom side rails, two top side rails, two bottom cross members, a front top end rail and a door header."

>>389778
>>389780
your point?

>>389683
If you can't read the fine print in the bad copy

the army corp of engineers recommends that you bury the container upside down so the stronger floor becomes your roof. these things have been buried all over the world. they aren't waterproof, so just like any basement, you'll need to provide drainage, and coat the walls with tar.

why does /diy/ have such a boner for these things?
Is it so fucking hard to actually build a metal cube? Do you have to get one premade?

>>389817
maybe op has a tunafish fetish and he wants to know what it feel s like to live in a tin can, ever think of that? huh guy?huh?

>>389809
The "floor" in most shipping containers is plywood. :|

>>389817
We don't. It's a noob (much as I dislike that word) thing, all fashion/social statement, little to no practicality.

Shipping container houses, 3D printers, dumpster diving, the idea that there is any such thing as a 'professional blacksmith' in the western world (awesome hobby that it is, there is no such job), 'how do I make money' threads, survivalist/go live off the land threads, and 'wouldn't it be cool to have our own town/country' threads....I forget my point, guess this is just a list of things I dislike on /diy....I mean, blacksmith threads are great, it's just the 'making money from it' part that's a nonsense.

Also way overestimating the ability of solar panels.

And the insane invention/conspiracy/free energy threads.

>>389889
I happen to know plenty of blacksmiths/metal smiths that make a good living off of that alone. That's kind of like saying there aren't any artists that could make a living off of what their doing, or writers for that matter. I think you're talking out of your ass.

>>389892
> That's kind of like saying there aren't any artists that could make a living off of what their doing, or writers for that matter.

If I'd ever known of any example of a professional blacksmith in the western world, then yeah...but I don't.

I've seen artists who use smithing for sculptures, and I've seen metalworking jobs advertised to blacksmiths to attact them, but I've never heard of a single blacksmith anywhere in the advanced world that makes a living from it.

If ya could name a few of these plenty, I'd be interested.

>>389893
>but I've never heard of a single blacksmith anywhere in the advanced world that makes a living from it

Plenty of people make a living off of blacksmithing, fool. Bladesmithing similarly so. I think you are unsure of the end use of the work of a blacksmith in the 'advanced world'. Typically blacksmiths make ornamental things- fancy gates, chandeliers etc rather than swords for beheading heathens. You clearly haven't researched this at all.

>>389903
>Plenty of people make a living off of blacksmithing, fool.

And yet nobody has ever been able to name any.*

> I think you are unsure of the end use of the work of a blacksmith in the 'advanced world'. Typically blacksmiths make ornamental things- fancy gates, chandeliers etc rather than swords for beheading heathens.

Perhaps we're getting into semantics here, if a company still calls its service blacksmithing and people still call it a blacksmith, then mebe it is? But I'd say no, sure they use hammer and tongs a little.....but mostly cold working, grinder, welder, stock....what smithing has evolved into, but not what the word actually means.


*other than teachers....but I'd say someone who gives piano lessons for a living isn't a "professional musician", technically yes....but it's not what anyone means when they say it.

>>389914

>But I'd say no
>not what the word actually means

Maybe you should look up what the word actually means then. Hint: definition doesn't state coal fired forge. I think what you're envisioning a smith as is something out of lord of the rings or something fantastic. Smithing is still distinct from fabricators, machinists, or even industrial forging processes though.

>>389930

> spot epic thread as it begins: blacksmiths? are they real or are they hippies?

> gets popcorn and eagerly awaits drama.

Friend of mine is a "professional" blacksmith, he makes entry tools for police like battering rams. But most work is done by machinery.

>>389935

>blacksmiths? are they real or are they hippies?

lol'd hard

>>389817
Its the alure of living in a house that doesn't look like you paid alot for, but in reality it costs exactly the same or more to build. A form of social obscurity - you probably haven't heard of it.

>>389539

The solar powering will cost you more then it would for you to simply buy a fucking shipping container home and some land depending where your located.

>>389961
A few company's out there that will install solar panels for free and charge you less then the electric company's for the power.

>>389961
Nope. 3,000 dollars.

>>389539
This is the new /diy/ copypasta, isn't it...

>I plan on buying a (SOMETHING UNSUITABLE), dancing up the inside of it (BUT NOT CONSIDERING ANYTHING ELSE), have someone dig me a hole then put it in the ground to have an underground house. (not too deep) and powering it with solar panels, and the other utilities will work off a well and a septics tank.

The last 10 comment have nothing to do with shipping containers or autism.
>hipsters
>blacksmith
you're all retarded and missing the point.
anyway.
>>389809
Does anyone see anything wrong with this picture?
>>389853
>implying the floor is made of plywood only .___.

if you can get one in a salvage yard, go ahead and get a refrigerated one. It will already have some boss insulation in the walls, and they're usually about the same price. Plus the inside walls are all food-grade stainless (I can get them for like, $1800 in decent shape around here, vs like, $1600 for a normal container)

>>389817
lets see you have one built for $300-$700

>>390023
>Does anyone see anything wrong with this picture?

They have a window in the basement?

>>390082
nope

>>389817
Do you even steel?

>>390085
No container?

>>390089
nar

butthurt little pigs are jelly because their house isn't made of steel.

>>390082
>They have a window in the basement?

pretty common

>>390172
Retards who don't seem to understand what a stupid idea this really is, money pit, waste of time, etc.
Also, poorfags and/or unemployable/undesirable who can't manage to live in a proper home.

>>390183

the sound of jimmies is unmistakable

>>390183
again, another troll faggot raises its head.

>>390194
thats actually pretty cool.

>>390207

I'm more interested in the blacksmith thing..can you continue?

>>390257
i hear ya bro. but u just wasted 30 mins of ur life posting these pics to prove a troll wrong.
troll wins.

>>390266
Not a waste of time, if someone gets some benefit from these examples. It was more of a STFU to all the "lateral compression fags" not so much the trolls.
People who grew up in shitholes are the ones who do the most trolling in container house threads. More than anything they crave a nice clean normal house, because they lived in filth their whole life with their mom, and wanted better. They think of a small confined space as "going back" watching mom come home with a different drunk every night, and other things that happened to them, after mom passed out.
Let em troll, their misery is delicious.

>>390315
>lateral compression fags
Do you even know what lateral compression is?

>>390328
it's what doesn't happen when i fuck your mom

>>390328
>Do you even know what lateral compression is?

When you play with your penis, you use lateral compression with a pair of tweezers. Does that make you an expert on the subject?

>>390347
<you play with your penis.
Did you feel stupid when you realized none of your pictures (you spent more than 30 mins posting them) have anything to do with lateral compression?
-Curious spectator.

>>390233
how?
they are sticking out so far with no support.

>>390246
>>390194
i could live happily in these.

>>390350
>Did you feel stupid when you realized none of your pictures (you spent more than 30 mins posting them) have anything to do with lateral compression?

Because windload has nothing to do with lateral compression right?

Category 5 Hurricane winds producing 100Lbs/SqFt is child's play compared to
gravity's magical horizontal effect on compacted earth. shifting of tectonic plates, could crush a container like a tin can right?

>>390355
>they are sticking out so far with no support.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantilever

>>390358
yea i know that, but it doesn't look like it has that support.. it looks like its been placed perfectly like a pencil on your finger, and once it gets to much weight it falls over..
i wouldnt live there unless i had support pillars

>>390347

You sir should definitely go ahead and bury a shipping container. Make sure you live there full time. You deserve the Darwin award it will earn you.

Shipping containers are not strong enough to withstand hydrostatic pressures of being buried. There is a reason why everyone uses thick concrete for basement walls, not thin steel.

Why there are so many homosexual 12 year olds in this thread that can't into engineering... I just don't even know.

>>390358
I know, right?
>cantilever
>lateral compression
NOT THE SAME

>>390357

> 100lbs/sqft
> implying bracing is not a good idea

so I guess the answer to my question would be...yes?

>>390411
this.

>>390357
Bro, can I ask a question. How old are you? Just wondering. I won't judge. It just help might explain somethings here on /diy/

>>389539
You should put the container above ground and dig a basement underneath

>>390411
>>390411
what is a drainage system?
the who purpose for perimeter drains covered with pea gravel is to allow the water a path out of the area and not into the wall.

>>390432
>implying a drainage system will prevent lateral forces of earth.
>implying a drainage system will keep surrounding soil dry .
>implying a drainage system modifies the laws of physics for buried shipping containers.
>drainage systems, don't leave home without them.

cool story bro

>>390411
Wet soil compounds the effect of lateral strain on the structure as it expands and contracts with the warming and cooling of the ground. I imagine that corrugated sheet mettl bulging in after a year or two.

Density:
Water 1.0
Sand 1.5
Loam 1.36
Clay 1.2
Concrete 2.4
Steel 7.82
Lateral compression fags OVER9000

The reason steel boats don't work is because of lateral compressions in the ocean attack without warning.
Boats need to be made out of wood or concrete, these materials are more in-tune with nature, and impervious to lateral compression.

>>390411
you do realize that this type of pressure can crack concrete right and that most homes that live in this kind of saturation usually have a sump pump to keep the relative waterlevel below the house.

>>390478
sometimes when we backfil around a concrete basement we put in a buffer to keep the lateral compression demons at bay. For example burying empty cardboard boxes in the gap acts as an expansion joint between the house and hell where the demons live. We place little Buddha dolls, and crucifixes inside the boxes, and seal them with duck tape. Nothing can get past that.

this tunnel pipe buried 60' underground in 1958
shows visible signs of imminent lateral compression failure. In another 50 years we will have even clearer signs for comparison.

>>390475

No one is disputing the fact that steel is a used as a construction material. lel.
We're disputing the fact that these containers aren't designed for lateral compression. They're not. They're designed to be stacked. Some guy spent a half hour posting picture of containers trying to prove "lateral compression fags" wrong . Not one of his picture showed lateral compression. This is beyond hilarious.
And now, you liken the strength of a shipping container to that of ship's hull. More hilarity.

>>390506
>you liken the strength of a shipping container to that of ship's hull.

a shipping container could never float lol don't be redickuless. Lateral compression waves would crush it instantly.

>>390478
>>390506
just stop it, he is the biggest troll or the stupidest guy, and he is beating you in his stupidity game.

>>390532

Kid yells: "Hey Mah! Dere's Dis guy on the computer sayin lateral pressure exists!"

Mom yells back: "Well did ya get real butthurt an tell him 'bout shipping can containers float?"

Kid yells back "Dang Mah, Thanks! ya saved me agaaan.

>>390557
i chuckled/10

>2013
>not having a garden for a roof

>>389889
>Also way overestimating the ability of solar panels.

This. Finally some sense around here.

>>390579
A solar panel kit could power a 320 square foot house no problem. There would be few lights, and most people only use laptops and some people don't even use tv.

>>390581
fridge

>>390581
solar panels are fragile, more suited to city life. they would get eaten alive in the wilderness. a bear might laterally compress them.

Use charcoal for power OP, a couple cubic yards can make enough steam to power a generator so you can microwave some hotdogs.

>>390586
that'd work fine too.

I saw a man on youtube he powered a playstation 3, a tv, a computer, lights, vacum, water pump, all with a a 3,000$ solar power kit. He had a propane stove, furnace, and fridge.

>>390596
And the propane only cost him 200$ a year.

>>390586
OP doesn't need a fridge
underground doesn't get hot like it does on the surface. don't need no lights to grow mushroom down there neither, so you can eat like a king.

>>390597
>propane only cost him 200$ a year.

get out. this is diy
make your own propane
it's just a little carbon and some hydrogen

>>390596
>>390597
depending on how much said kit costs it would work. but for a miniature home, why not live in a fucking house. honestly the effort put into this thing when in reality its just a fuck cargo crate. honestly if you already had a house and were buildin this, some things that you would have or use it for
>gaming area
>quite relaxation area
>workshop
>storage
>rape dungeon
>murder room

>>390603
instructions?

>>390634
>Piece of shit used old ghetto house: 30k at the most
>Used old house worth having: at least 60k
>Brand new house 130k
>Simple, but nice shipping container home: can be done under 10k

Hmm..

>>390643
>shipping container home
still need to buy land fuck tard
and OP said he wanted it underground. and he only wanted to buy one, one container isn't enough to live in if he is a western country and isn't a hillbilly hermit.

>>390637
if you're a beginner start with methane, and work your way up as you get more experienced.

>>390662
How much do you think land cost? If you're going to live in a shipping container, you mine as well live on raw land. You can find raw land for real cheap. And did you even read the thread? No ones evening talking about the underground idea anymore because it's obviously deadly.

>>390662
>>390666
And I doubt anyone who wants to live simply in a shipping container gives a shit about being called a "hillbilly". They're either trying to save the planet by living green, or are trying to live so they don't have to work a 5-9 job. Probably both. Give more fucks.

>>390662
>still need to buy land fuck tard
implying that none is available

lots of land for sale. foreclosed property everywhere

>>390666
only deadly in certain conditions.

>>390673
would it not be easier to buy an apartment. if you enjoy the small underground idea buy an apartment that suit those conditions

Would it work if you dug the hole, then put cemented the hole? That seems like it'd make it work fine.

>>390683
yes it would. but you would have to have some form of drainage system.
people here lack common sense.

also you fuckers saying it wouldn't last underground, it wouldn't stand the weight put on it etc. if i buried a container so its roof was 1m from surface it would be fine, that includes concreted sides...

>>390690
>if i buried a container so its roof was 1m from surface it would be fine, that includes concreted sides...

Is that why people have been shitting their dicks in this thread? I only planned on burrying it so it's roof is maybe a foot from the surface. And I plan on cementing the top aswell.

And how would I go about a draining system?

>>390693
yes that's why they have been shitting themselves about.... don't need a drainage system if you plan to surround it with concrete. unless you live in area where it will rain/flood the ground a lot then you will need basic drainage system to avoid walls corroding.
how to handle the drainage system?
id suggest installing underground water collection tanks, that will be used for your toliet and washing machine (anything really). that way all water drained will be collected and put to good use. and won't cause your underground home to fuck itself over. ask for professional advice on this matter, especially for making your drainage system collection tanks and making them useful for washing etc. unless you already know how to do such things

yea i presumed you only wanted it buried very shallow... don't know how people got the impression you wanted it a couple of meters underground

>>390694
Actually, I might make it "two story". The top one above ground, and bottom one under ground. It solves the door problem, the getting burried by some local psychopath problem, and the accidentally getting ran over problem.

>>390698
And I'm going to be using 20 x 8 instead of 40 x 8.

>>390699
the top one might be an 10 x 8.

>>390698
>>390699
ok the sizes mean nothing to me. unless you want me to help design it.
but if you are having one on top of the other. the drainage system will change slightly.. you will need to make sure that water cant rise and get between the 2 containers to prevent rusting, and other nuisances.

>>390701
ok if the top one is smaller you must definitely make sure water will not go underground and go to the bottom container, drainage system is necessary. there must be little to no water getting on that bottom container

>>389889
BIDF (Banker Internet Defence Force) detected
Yes, yes, keep getting huge home loans to buy huge houses. Muhahaahaha

>>390226

this is in my city always have office space available for rent not to expensive either, well for some hipster bullshit

Prefabs only cost under 100k delivered.
>The 960 sq ft (89 m2) Insta House is now available for purchase in the U.S. and as standard comes fitted with sliding windows, electrical fixtures and all wall, ceiling and floor finishes. The basic model will set you back US$99,800, including delivery.

http://www.mbarchitecture.com/

>>390683
>layer of cement

That's a basement/foundation.

>>390694
>yea i presumed you only wanted it buried very shallow... don't know how people got the impression you wanted it a couple of meters underground

The deeper the better.

Soil swells when it gets wet, and shrinks when it dries out. Some soil types more than others see above (Loam / clay)
Most of this swelling occurs on near the surface
where a good rain can increase the volume of soil by several percent with crushing force if steps are not taken to prevent it. Waterproofing and adequate drainage are critical on the surface. Freezing of water causes it to expand with even greater force.

Simply adding concrete will not change these facts.

Deeper levels of soil are more compacted, and less permeable, but still drainage is required, or your box would be a well for water to collect in.

The point of argument earlier in the thread regarding lateral compression misconceptions, was to say that it does exist, but it is not some mythical beast capable of defying the laws of physics. Lateral compression does not even apply, if there is no back-fill against the walls.

>>390818
How will adding concrete on the sides, bottom, and then the top after putting it in there, not completely wipe out the problem? I'm basically making a fucking cement pocket.

>>390411
Your picture is all wrong, how is it raining when the sky is clear and the sun shining?

>>390845
>how is it raining when the sky is clear and the sun shining
W-what

>>390845
You obviously don't travel much, and are used to local weather conditions that are not common to other regions of the world. It can and does rain in bright sunlight.

>>390853
Wait fuck, has he never seen a rainbow?

are u not a bit old 4 a den

>>390845
Obviously you've never experienced a Tucsonian rain... Sun shines so bright the rain barely touches the ground.

>>390823
>I'm basically making a fucking cement pocket.

test your theory.
make a concrete box
fill it with water
put it in a freezer

>>390849
Y-you too...

How realistically can you buy a small pit of land and just put a container on it to live in?

Grow most of your own food etc..

>>390872
bit*

>>390872
Easier than wage slaving everyday just to throw all your money to rent and utilities.

>>390875
Yeah, is it wrong that my ambition is to work as little as possible while still maintaining decent quality of life?

>>390862

>>390877
No, it's not wrong. You are enlightened. Live like a pirate, use your creativity to make a decent living for yourself.

>Dig 10x22 hole
>Cement the bottom
>Place 10x22 container home inside hole
>Poor cement in the hole and over the home except the area where you will put your door or whatever
>Burry dirt over the cement

How will this not work?

>>390880
>>Place *8x20 container home inside 10x22 hole

fix'd

>>390840
Drainage of the pit walls reduces erosion. this can be done with PVC well points (pictured)

gravel and adequate drainage of the pit at the base.

no lateral compression, because the earth does not come into contact with the shipping container on the sides. This allows for expansion due to both, moisture and freezing.

>>390885

Plausible, it would benefit from a sealant as described in the below link.

http://containerhome.info/underground-shipping-containers.html

>>390892
Don't get me wrong, there are dangers to be overcome, and risks involved with any structure.

A project like this is needs prior planning, and a lot of knowledge. Trial and error is not the way to go.

I won't get into the many benefits of underground living (tornado,etc. no heating/cooling bills) the advantages speak for themselves.

The risks:
Basements, bunkers, tunnels, caves... have been around for ages.
Flooding/water is your biggest concern.
Choose a location wisely. One that allows for drainage. Not a valley where water collects, but a hillside next to a valley, where your site can drain downward into that valley.
Not on land that is too steep, and susceptible to landslide. The same principals for above ground construction apply for soil testing, and suitability for building a strong foundation.

Pilings can be set to stabilize a site, but the expense can be avoided by selecting a better location.

I can't stress drainage enough. people often rely on pumps which are unreliable. Gravity drains do not need pumps, or the expense of operating them. The drains do need to be maintained and operational.

A few "inches of rain" can amount to a several feet of water collecting in a low point. Minimal drainage is not acceptable.

>>390907
>A few "inches of rain" can amount to a several feet of water collecting in a low point. Minimal drainage is not acceptable.

I live on the side of a small hill, almost at the top. The top of the hill is only 7 ft above my property. The adjacent property on that hilltop is a grass field. When it rains, the soil under the grass does not absorb the water fast enough, and it starts to flow in my direction within minutes. If a heavy rain persists, within half an hour I have a 5-12 inch deep river flowing across most of my yard, and right up to the step at the door. on the other side of my property, opposite the hill, is a drop-off of about 12 ft. which becomes a waterfall - wall of water due to my property being fairly level.
I need to install some drainage on my property to better manage the water, but my point is that I don't even live in a valley, I live practically on top of a hill, and an empty pool in my back yard would fill up in minutes.

>>389641
>
You're an idiot. Containers support that weight on the load bearing posts. The sheet metal in the sides and roof bears no force at all in a container stack.

>>390761

I'm seriously considering buying one of these if I can find some land in a good location.

>>390997
>The sheet metal in the sides
>bears no force at all

calling corrugated steel walls sheet metal is like saying cardboard shipping boxes are just paper.
>bears no force at all.
post a video of you effortlessly walking through a shipping container wall. or better yet, run at it full force, so we can see how it doesn't respond.

the material used on the walls of these containers is an engineered alloy structurally formed to be incredibly stronger than flat sheet metal. The same steel is used in building bridges, and stadiums which support tonnage. Your ignorance gets you a -1/10 troll rating.

Hurricane panels tested to withstand 200 mile an hour winds, and large and small missile impact testing, are less than half the metal thickness used in shipping containers. pic related.

>>391059
>large and small missile impact testing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pot7UI5SLb8

>>391059
>The sheet metal in the sides
>bears no force at all

You're right, the sheet metal doesn't bear the force at all. ( even though your retarded and over dramatic post implies the opposite.)
the stacking relies on the frame work and the framework only. Its called point loading ya fukkin dummy. Thats how you can stack them so high.If you don't know, now you know, nigga.


shipping containers,
>tested to withstand large and small missile impact testing
>Your ignorance gets you a -1/10 troll rating

How ironic

>>389539
STOP POSTING THIS SHIT
SHIPPING CONTAINERS ARE ONLY USEFUL AS SHIPPING CONTAINERS
THEY MAKE SHITTY LIVING SPACES
STOP POSTING THIS SHIT

>>391094
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DxNOkWMHuk

luckily all of these containers were filled with solid concrete which kept them from collapsing, while their useless side panels would have given out otherwise, when they shifted off their integral corner framing, which is the only thing that can support them besides forcefields and jedi powers.

>>391094
>How ironic
pic related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT1TVSTkAXg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOMN2qrsQAw

>>391142
I see at least 8 and possibly as many as 10 containers whose side panels did indeed give out.

>>391169
>I see at least 8 and possibly as many as 10 containers whose side panels did indeed give out.

your estimation of how much weight is on top of those failures? nothing compared to the weight of a few feet of dirt right.
lest we forget about subterranean steel eating termites, nasty buggers. seen one eat a car all by himself, and that was on the surface. imagine if he had home court advantage.

>>391158
ur jimmies r showin

Back fill dirt around a basement - stupid idea. Who came up with that one Europeons?

is this just trailer parks for hipsters?

>>391174
>seen one eat a car all by himself
lol

>>390215
This would be an awesome hobbyist house. Downstairs, workshops and kitchens, upstairs offices and sleeping quarters. Center is open working area/garage space.
Wonder how much the overall steel warehouse part costs?

>>391180
>ur jimmies r showin

that was intentional. I knew you couldn't swallow a whole load, so i shot some on your face and tits.

>>389778
I laughed so hard at every reply your message was tagged to because every time I moved the mouse over it, all I read was hnnnggg. Made my day

Just dig a sloping hole, terrace the fuck out of it, get some berries and shit going. Get an menards a-frame for a roof, put on top, sheet metal it all. crushed rocks and shit for drainage under said floor and terracing, use sand to further fill said gaps. Large water container from farmer supply, tubes to container, wind pump for drilled well, put sewage treatment pond downwind of place. Profit. Grow some poplars for trees/firewood. Grow blueberries, raspberries, etc for fruits. Grow potatoes and beets for main stays. If you have good health, you can reduce your long term cost with time and energy. Chicken that shit up as well. Bkawwww!!!

Just for fun, you can get them for free, just pay the shipping and handling, have hole dug and setup, drop in and enjoy. Bkaaaa!!!

seeing that pic of the container ship fail got me thinking there are probably a few of these things on the ocean floor. That thar would be awesomehouse. you could fish in your livingroom, eat sushi and your girlfriend could cosplay little mermaid. might get lucky and find a container full of big flatscreen tvs and a thousand copies of twilight dvds. you'd be set for life.

>>390070
>lets see you have one built for $300-$700
where u from?
i'll take 20 for that price

lies!!!..... they do float

>>391193
>that was intentional

>>391278
Only briefly, or if what is in them is buoyant enough to counter their weight. They are not that air and water tight - it will only slow it not stop it.

>>391116
>STOP POSTING DIY RELATED STUFF ON /DIY/!11

People are interested in this stuff, get over it. The idea of creating your own little house of your very own for cheap is awesome. Hide the threads if you don't like it.

>>391337

My dad sails a few months every year, he sees a few containers floating around every now and then. Hazardous as hell, also hard to see since only the top roof is visible.

>>391485
Not just little houses. Containers are Lego-like modular building blocks. You can build castles out of containers.

My dream plan calls 8 containers.

Side view:
[---------][~]
[=][+++++]

Front view:
[~~~~~]
[+][=][+]

Back view:
[--][=][--]
[=====]

If my crude ASCII diagrams don't adequately explain in, It's basically a slotted rectangle with parts that overhang. and cross over each other. End result is a hollow rectangle with space in the middle for a courtyard, surrounded by containers 3 sides but open in the front. Is my plan at all feasible?

>>391337
What are you basing this statement off of?
People with fiberglass or wood sailboats dread shipping containers because they float for years sometimes.

>>391505
I had a similar idea to this, but with:

Side:
[---------][+]
[=][~~~~~]

Front:
[++++++]
[~]____[~]

Rear:
[--][+][--]
[=====]

So there's an opening in the front for exterior and vehicle access.

>>391337
ermahgerd wat if is foam swords?

>>391505
>>391539
It's a freaking image board guys. Draw it in MS paint and post it.

>>391539
My plan's the same (I think), I was just showing the back container in the Front view and the upper container in the Back view.

>>391561
Didn't really have time to do so when I made it, but here it is. The plan (like >>391539 ) is to have an courtyard in the center you can drive into or just hang out in (If I do do this, I'm planting a tree in the center of the courtyard).

>>391561
>It's a freaking image board guys. Draw it in MS paint and post it.

sketchup

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sEkmNrpejY

>>391672
>sketchup


you can download the models for sketchup and build your design in 3D

>>390566
I'm not usually fond of container house, but this one..!

>>392267
I like the green roof/garden roof. If I ever make one of there, I'm deff doing that. Good for insulation and it's aesthetically pleasing, imo.

>>391604
quick drawing of what I think this post is trying to show...

>>392267
>>392278

>be roofer
>shingling roof
>look over just as coworker slips, falls off roof
>ohshitnigger.jpg
>walk over to gawk at mangled body on ground
>boss calls 911
>ambulance comes, he lives, but collapsed lung, etc.
fast forward to today
>reading thread on /diy/
>see roof garden
>see fags in love with it
>know it's a stupid idea, but fags won't listen
>the end

>>392383

>implies people should stop building roofs because shipping containers can float.

Inb4 Saftey harness/ties off/shock absorber/saftey rail/scaffolding/fall arrest/all
roofers are convicted felons or drug users/shit tier job/etc.

Roofing.you're doing it wrong.

There's a right way to have a roof garden bro..you can't generalize like this.

>>392383
Before this rant, Im really sorry about what happened to your buddy, but:
1. Roof gardens are flat, and I'm going to hazard a guess that the roof you two were on wasn't.
2. Could just add a rail... Just use scrap galvanized fencing material, wouldn't be too expensive.

>>392383
if you knew him before his accident you may be able to help determine the extent of his brain damage. He wont be able to realize how he's changed by it, but wife, family and friends can see the difference.

Save the whales

>>392911
And definitely going to be using one of these for that 8x10 bedroom.

SOMEWHAT unrelated question here... but how useful are shipping containers for longterm storage?

I have a plot of land but no room inside my cabin to store some things from my late mother and Id rather own something rather than keep paying this storage bill.

>>392976

shipping containers are ideal for that application. people who are aware have stopped buying/building sheds, and are converting 100% to containers. they are cheap and available anywhere, and last a lifetime. think about it: they are engineered to last for years out on the ocean, so they will last forever in any other non-salty environment.

>>392979
Is the concern of moisture getting inside great? Like will some clothing and books become very moldy if I store them inside?

Any other practical concerns?

>>392982

they are exposed to ocean spray and storms for months at sea, so you will be fine using them just as they are.

>>390761
>Night time
>Jerking off to my chinesse cartoons
>Whole world can see me

Not even once

>>392982

I'd worry more about heat than moisture... Paint them white and stick them under some shade trees if possible.

>>391036
>>390761

That's pretty cool to look at, but this design is such a fucking waste of potential floor space. The top of the entrance/living room should be 2 floors, not a high as fuck open ceiling with a staircase that seemingly takes up 1/4th of the available square footage. I wish these fucking architects would build for the average consumer, who is going to look at a price per sqft standpoint and number of rooms.

>>391142
WELL DONE

>>394037
The sides are 1.6mm thick, what did you expect?

>the thickness requirement for underground steel enclosures is 3.5mm+
>exterior full fillet lap joints to add "ribbed" strength
>striker plates to protect the internal surface
seam Inspection
>5 psi factory air test

>>391142
>all of these containers were filled with solid concrete
No. This is just not done in the industry. Could it be you are engaged in a clever ruse? Because if you actually knew a damn thing about your subject matter you would know it was wrong.

>>394076
>No. This is just not done in the industry. Could it be you are engaged in a clever ruse? Because if you actually knew a damn thing about your subject matter you would know it was wrong.

It's wrong to use clever ruses? I can't just send them to a landfill. This is /diy/ surly there's a viable use for them here of all places.

be careful with trees OP their roots can sneak up on you.

>>395207
this. I can't even tell you the amount of fucked up foundations and sometimes roofs, because people don't consider the trees final size when planting.

>>394048
>the thickness requirement for underground steel enclosures is 3.5mm+
Is that for corrugated steel?

>>395233
dafuq is wrong wit u?
Trees can't penetrate containers because of the strong steel walls. They can even withstand large missile/nuclear/asteroid/red giant/black hole impact.
its corrugated.

>>395244
sure brah

>>395233
well that too but i was talking about fibrous root systems that can detect the moisture in your breath. they grow down your throat when your sleeping. mostly only happens when you sleep underground.
fibrous roots are like tiny fingers that crawl and the plant eats through them. they release nitric acid which dissolves metal, that how plants get the minerals they need out of soil.
if they get in your lungs, you're done

>>390437
stupidest thing I've seen all week

>>390880
Because you forgot drainage that's how

>>395282
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCp4UhzfXZE

Every single container house in this thread looks like utter dogshit.

Unless you live VERY close to a port or big depot shipping the container to your land will cost a ton. To begin with they aren't great deals compared to the equivalent of raw materials, AND you have to put up with how fucking small and butt ugly they are as living spaces.

Just a bad idea, that seems good until you actually weigh up what you're buying.

>>395287
>stupidest thing I've seen all week

do tell

>>395293
>Unless you live VERY close to a port or big depot shipping the container to your land will cost a ton.

Containers move all over the world, unless you live in the wild somewhere a container will end up close to where you live. Your logic would hold true, if these were only loaded on ships, and only available at ports, which is what a lot of people think. They are intermodal shipping containers. they go from ship to train to truck to anywhere. If you live in a remote place far from a port, it's likely you can get a deal on a container that got shipped to your village, because after it's emptied at that destination, it might have to be shipped back empty, if you village isn't manufacturing anything worth shipping. rather than paying to "dead-head" it back, they will sell it and save the expense.
meaning you can get deals on them anywhere.

There is a huge barn in Nebraska made out of 100 containers. welded together, and half buried on one side.
it's said to be tornado proof, but I don't agree with that.
I'll go as far as tornado resistant, it would mostly blow right over the top, but a direct hit would do some damage. If it were fully underground, then yeah it would be like a tornado going over a hill.

All these blasted shipping container house threads.

Anyone have a shipping container DIY thread? Should be simple just get some sheet metal, angle iron.. or is the deals too good to pass up on the standard size ones? Metal houses are very durable and instead of relying on an unventilated, corrugated, used-up, has-been container, there should be a way to just DIY the damn thing.

>>389809
Applying tar by hand, wtf is this Mexico?

>>390437
Fucking no, its not even the water that's the real problem its the weight of the dirt. It compounds becasue the dirt on top lays on dirt which lays on dirt and so on and so forth so that the dirt on the bottom wants to return to a natural slope (ie. 45*) and it pushes with immense force pushing in the wall.

TLDR: Dirt Be Fuckin Heavy

>>395941
How do you do it?

>>395951
Not personally, but Mastering in Architecture and family is in the building and developing game.

Anyway fuckin spray that shit on, takes maybe 15 minutes on your average suburban home.

>>395949
>pounding dirt
I lold

and sometimes the dirty dirt does it cowgirl, the dirt gets on top of dirt and rides the dirt til the dirt dirts

dirt is heavy stuff
you know how you feel lighter when you get out of the shower. that's because you washed the heavy dirt off of you. and you feel better too because the dirt was oxidizing your skin. dirt is like kryptonite and it drains your powers

i know things cuz my mom's a dog groomer and she talks to animal and she teached me. so now i can understand animals. i can't talk animal yet, but i understand them, and they tell me things i'm not spoze to know

>>389539
buy a radon detector

>>395954
oh, OK. The guy in the picture is using a paint roller and a bucket of tar. Most residential foundation are tarred this way in North America, but spraying would be less labor intensive no doubt. The spray equipment is expensive, too.

>>395949
>water that's the real problem

exactly.
1)water causes rust
2)water causes lateral compression (swelling of soil)
3)water expands when it freezes (worse than lateral compression)
4)water drowning causes you to die to death

after Israel nukes the planet and everybody's dead on the surface, the only people left will be bunkerfags

I just moved a shipping container 300km (so, 600km for the truck to drive) and it included 200m of offroad terrain and heavy caution driving.

Cost $900 AUD for a 6t, 20ft container.

>>395989
>water that's the real problem

wrong.
1) containers can float
2) containers don't rust since 1967
4) corrugated
4) You can stack them
5) potatoes

lol,jk.

You're right about everything. Also, if you buy a used container it'll be well used and may already show signs of rust. I'd brace my container walls if it was me. maybe some angle iron spaced 24" vertically and some uprights every 3-4 ft. I'd really have to see the specific container. and I wouldn't bury it much deeper than its height.

Why does it have windows?

>>396018
we already resolved most of the concerns earlier in the thread. here are links to the answers

>>390840
>>390885
>>390952

>>396010
i've paid from as little as $150US to as much as $600US moving all 40' containers loaded and unloaded..
advantage of being close to a metropolitan area near shipping ports / interstate highways and railways.

>>396010
Is Kimberly, Austrailia nice?
i just got a job offer there forr 100k usd but if its not nice im not going.

In the last week i've watched over 30 youtube videos related to this subject. and all i can say is, don't do what they did. one point that hasn't been mentioned in this thread is very noticeable in a video where the guy is trying to show that it can be done. one of the doors on the container won't close because they twisted the frame when they moved it. this could be a big problem if it shifted while you were inside, and the door would not open... but these doors only latch from outside, so you wouldn't be in that situation. still it's a good idea to lock the structural doors which reinforce the frame, and install a different door for access to the box.
3 of the videos talk about flooding, because they didn't plan their project. one is trying to stop leaks from inside using great-stuff. one is using a 30gal bucket for drainage. that's about 1 minute of rain where I live.

>>396064
it's a common thing for construction companies to do that, and convert it into a site office

>>396128
after hurricanes blew away thousands of tin sheds a lot of people have switched over to containers. old "mobile homes" have practically been outlawed, but containers have been tested to withstand winds and approved.

Bump

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3EAJex1RVo

watch this video it gives you information about lateral compression and shows the proper way to bury a shipping container