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358059 No.358059 [Reply] [Original]

anyone have any experience with old aluminum windows? It looks like you can just unscrew the plates to get to the air gap between right? I forsee a resealing/stripping job in the future.

>> No.358060

yeah just the screws.. but you gotta be careful with the glass and its really brittle if its as old as it looks. Take it off the hinges if you can and find a big table to lay it on.. possibly some screws on the corners to remove the glass.

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>>358060

Ill keep it in mind, my relatives live in a house from 1955, so the windows are original, they are getting old so they cant do much around the house but damn these windows leak like crazy. in the summer condensation builds between the two layers and just looks awful.

>> No.358066

>>358063
it might be a better choice to replace them with vinyl windows. I used to work for a company that did that... even if you replace the seals they will probably fog up. its the actual double pane that has a broken seal, I honestly don't know if its worth the effort to fix.

>> No.358070

>>358066
I'm pretty sure its the cost that's keeping them from doing it. They have some money now so they dont mind the utility bills (they think short term). I fugured the least I could do it just fix what they have even if it wont make that much of a difference but it will be low cost...

>> No.358091

If they are supposed to be double-pane windows, then there is pure nitrogen sealed between the panes. This is what keeps the windows from sweating (fogging up).

If you do separate double-pane windows, then you need to leave some method for re-opening them again (don't glue them back together with sealer) because they will grow mildew inside the inner space every couple years.

They will still insulate better than single-pane windows, but without pure nitrogen inside, they will fog up in the cold and grow some mildew inside every year.

>> No.358100

If the house is that old, depending where it is, the exterior walls lack insulation, so you should put that at #2 on the list.

I know most places in SoCal don't have insulation before like. 85.

>> No.358101

>>358091
this a thousand times. the problem is what is inside of the window sandwich, nitrogen or any gas, even air, that is 100% free of humidity is the way to go. but that shit is hard to accomplish.

so as this savy anon said, i would recommend double pane that you can open, so you can wash the insides.

sometimes you gotta love /diy/

Also i think they used the wrong screw, since i can see some rust on them. not sure

>> No.358102

>>358091
when I worked with glass the double pane windows had a small metal tube that allowed the window to breathe right up until we crimped the end right before we installed it.

>> No.358116

>>358100

This is one of those post-WWII bungalow houses in Chicago. see: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c7/Chicago_bungalow.jpg

I assume they were meant to be opened and cleaned, I recall a story my uncle told me that when one of his kids cleaned the large center window inthe 60s it fell off the hinge and shattered..

>> No.358160

>>358102
>>358101
>>358091
most places use silica gel in the gap these days just a thin layer on the base.

>> No.358180

>>358059

Your windows look very similar to what my parents have on their house, they are aluminum storm windows.

They can indeed be removed from the actual window frame, cause that's how they were origionally installed.

Good news though...there is no need to 'recharge the Nitrogen'...they are a singe pane, and the point would be 'moot'...

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