/diy/ - Do It Yourself

But I HAVE heard of Robert Baden-Powell

10 outdoor essentials.
Also, carabiner on belt that is connected to smallish led flashlight. So handy.

>>349092
>carabiner on belt that is connected to smallish led flashlight
Not so handy at full night in the wood, except maybe for finding the flashlight inthe tent

>>349094
>>349094
I meant storing the flashlight on your belt, rather than fishing around for it in bag/pockets.
Also, most of your list is overkill. Kuriki for an average scouting trip? Also, you aren't even "supposed" to have fixed blade/sheath knives in scouting.
What trip is this where you need a kuriki?

>>349095
not particularly the kukri but one of the three machettes, at summer camp we often have to cut bushes grass and all these cleaning things.

And for the camp knife i've broke too much knive, i would like to keep that for a long time.

>>349088
Replace 550 paracord with fireman's escape rope (7.5mm technora cord). Rated to 4000 pounds, can be used as a lifeline, so worth the extra cost. Also get a rigger's belt (aka emergency rappel belt) and a few climbing carabiners to properly utilize the escape rope.

>>349101
Figure 8 rappel piece, too.

>>349101
oh yes really good idea, didnt tought about climbing, thanks

For the hatchet estwings or wetterlings ?

btw i looked for the rope its rated to 450lb

>>349088
The paracord that amazon sells is not military grade. The real stuff is higher quality but its a little bit harder to find and a little bit more expensive. In my opinion its worth it to buy quality but it depends on what you are going to use it for.

>>349213
same guy here coming at you with some sweet links

this is a really detailed post on the difference in between "civilian" para cord and real para cord
http://www.survivalistboards.com/showthread.php?p=405380#post405380

and this is one of the websites that he recommends for buying real para cord, I used this site to buy my cord and I would use it again
http://www.bestglide.com/550_cord_info.html

>>349217
>>349213
>>349210

Or this:

>>349101

At start it wasnt for more that basic stuff like hanging a tarp but it can be really usefull to have someting like that

>>349217
thaks for the link cord is not expensive on this

>machete

are you kidding me?

>scouting
>leave no trace


have you even read anything?

>>349261
>He actually thinks scouts follow that
Go work at a summer camp, watch how many troops cut down young trees for walking sticks instead of just picking one up off the ground. I had at least one I needed to bitch at every week for that shit.

>>349277
Yep. But also, as a scout leader myslef, and a scout of over 13 years, and over 107 nights, I can assure you that scouts need,(UK)
Beer
Guidance
Knife
Matches
Meat, cheap preferably
And chairs

>>349088

Get yourself five to six hundred feet of cheapish manila rope; it's great for teaching kids how to tie knots (you won't want to be buying more paracord for that) and works great for lashings.

Also look into buying 6mil poly sheeting; it''s far cheaper than tarps and can be used for many of the same things, it will also come in larger sizes.

You also will need a first aid kit, if you don't already have one.

Also get some books (or just read up) on local wildlife; it's good to know when the deer or elk will be acting crazy and what snakes give the bad bites.

>>349095
>Also, you aren't even "supposed" to have fixed blade/sheath knives in scouting.

That's not true, you just have to get your toten' chit and you're fine. Unless I'm out of date; wouldn't surprise me too much, scouting seems to be in the process of being taken over by soccer moms/dads and fundies.

>>349261
>>machete
>are you kidding me?
>>scouting
>>leave no trace
>have you even read anything?

When I was in scouts/OA I used a machete fairly frequently for trail projects (upkeep of trails or making new ones--sometimes even in state parks and once in a national park) as well as conservation projects (removal of brazilian pepper trees/other invasive plants, clearing of mangrove corridors of debris) and also for other people's Eagle projects. Though I never had anything as fancy as the OP's machetes.

Also Leave No Trace is trail etiquette, it isn't practical or reasonable to follow everywhere. The scouts believe in conservation, not preservation (ie clear an area of brush and rocks to make a campground and disallow setting up tents elsewhere except for special circumstances to prevent saplings in other areas from being harmed.)

The only advice I ever have for a boyscout.

Leave the organization. It's pure fucking evil, you idiotic homophobic monster.

Yes yes, this should be a "omg, it's all about tools and knowledge thread, because it's DIY" but fuck that.

If you're in the scouts, you are giving the scouts money, ergo financially supporting one of the largest organizations that indoctrinate small children into homophobia.

YOU are the problem.

>>349339

I was a scout for, I dunno, a long time. Cub scout to boy scout. I don't remember ever talking about man on man love.

>>349339
Check your liberal privilege Dick cheese McGubbins

Just as you are entitled to your opinions so if everyone else

>>349339
Shut up cunt, no one cares. Take you social justice whining to tumblr.

cool thread, post it to /k/ they love this stuff

>>349339
Im almost sure your a troll. Its great way to teach people skills, self sufficiency and teamwork and if in the process the people at the top offend a small fraction of the population I couldnt care less.

>>349261
machete is not for camplife more for the services asked by owners like cleaning garden and stuff

>>349277
I dont do these kind of things

>>349303
>beer
You must be a good leader :D

>>349308
Yep im building a medikit, and for the books i have a bunchmaybe i should look for some local vegetation book

>>349339
You made me laugh, do you even know how scouting education works ?

>>349339
Don't know what you're blabbering about, scout leaders routinely molest the kids, its like a breeding ground for these faggots you love so much.

>>349308
>poly sheeting
Im not sure if that could survive more than one camp, even good tarps get really used, there is a lot of rain here.

>>349411
Molesting kids Is fun actually :D

>>349386
Im gonna ask them what choose between the 2 knives, and between the machetes

>>349339

Pretty sure faggots wanting to fuck ass holes is the problem. Scouting is fine, of all the things you could bitch about in scouting, being homophobic is not one of them. Tolerance does not equal acceptance, some day a cure for faggotry will be found, and you brain damaged tards will finally be able to grasp that simple concept.

Boy scouting is about being a better person, learning to do stuff, and how to lead or properly work under a leader. Sexuality has nothing to do with this and shouldn't be factored in. Some fag prancing around shouving their sexual choice onto strangers is simply unacceptable. You're here, you're queer, get over it.

>>349545
Moreover leaders are not here to tell what's wrong or what's right, we're just here to learn them how to think by themselves

>>349413

The thinner stuff will wear out pretty quickly but if you get the .6mil poly it's pretty thick and will hold up almost as well as a tarp. It's also a fraction of the price.

It won't replace all your tarps or anything, since there are things that tarps are better for, but I would definitely suggest buying one just to see how well it holds up.

Back o/

Fuck scouts.
I was raped by our leader

>>349545
My group leader in cubs was a physically handicapped gay vet. I heard years and years after leaving scouts that he was homosexual, it never once was an issue, never brought up, etc.

You could say the same thing about any gatherings of singular sexes: oh do hoho, they just getting a big 'ol homosexual orgy goin on do hoho.

Sad to see what scouts has become now a days

I think more essential than the gear you listed, is bringing scouting back to the basics in your troop if possible.

Too many troops seem to be just Eagle mills with little regard for actual achievement, knowledge about the outdoors and survival, or even leadership skills. Just giving them a framework to work within is enough. What part of the country are you in OP? That also changes some of your gear you might want. As well as if this is for car camping, short hikes, or longer backpacking trips.

>>349339
>If you're in the scouts, you are giving the scouts money, ergo financially supporting one of the largest organizations that indoctrinate small children into homophobia

You clearly don't know anything about the scouts. We had gay kids in our troop, no issue with them at all. The only people we had issue with were the pussies that would whine and bitch and moan needing to do work to get their achievements and leadership done.

The only way to change the organization is from within, boycotting scouting will in no way change it. The problem currently is that the mormons are such a large part of the organization so due to their numbers and money they have a large sway in certain policies, however in the end it all comes down to local councils.

>>349907

There's nothing wrong with being gay, it's like having any other fetish or quirk, as long as you keep it to yourself. That isn't homophobia, that's just common decency. Unfortunately, that's something a lot of "new" gays don't understand. Boy scouts don't get together and cry about their problems like women do. They get together to get shit done. This is why many so called homosexual rights advocates have so much trouble understanding such basic concepts: they dont just want to get fucked like women, they think like women.

Talking about sex is not an appropriate activity for scouts or their leaders. Scouting is segregated specifically so the boys can focus on their tasks and not get into conflict over girls like young boys tend to do. If the mormons want to say no gays allowed, that's perfectly alright. No scout or leader should be going around telling people they fuck men in the ass in the first place, just like the straight scouts and leaders dont go around talking about having sexual relations with women in the missionary position.

For homosexuals, this is a problem. Because really, what is a fag other than someone who goes around bragging about how they like cock or vagina? Take away the public identify of a homosexual and they are just a regular person. And regular people don't get all the special rights and attention.

Personally, I grew up with 2 aunts. It never occurred to me that they were lesbians, because they were part of the old guard. They didn't waste everyone's time telling everyone they met that they were carpet munchers. They never had any issues with their homosexuality because they never flaunted it like some fucking badge of courage.

>BOYSCOUTS! TEACH YOUR CHILDREN TO LOVE EVERYONE, EXCEPT PEOPLE WHO DON'T BELIEVE IN YOUR BELIEFS!

I heard all scout leaders were gay deviants

>>349911
Thats more the gear for leaders and for myself (i dont only do scouting), troop have his own tools
Also bringing back the basics is what im trying tto do, i have the 14-17 kids and they dont know a lot on bushcraft even cook or DYI.
Frenchfag here

>>349911
>The only people we had issue with were the pussies that would whine and bitch and moan needing to do work to get their achievements and leadership done.
So true

>>349919
Actually the scouts I am with is coeducated so we have girls, its a whole debate, i prefer unisex but it can work with girls too, its just different.

>>349942
>BOYSCOUTS! TEACH YOUR CHILDREN TO LOVE EVERYONE, EXCEPT PEOPLE WHO DON'T BELIEVE IN YOUR BELIEFS!
Why would I do that? I think this is wrong.

>>350082

You probably already know this, but wanted to add:

One of the best things you can do for your troop is finding volunteer work for them to do. Plenty of areas will have something they need done if you just give them a call; you can usually find a variety of interesting projects to turn into a service day or even a full weekend.

Working on stuff was one of the most fun parts of scouting for me (especially as I got older), and definitely one of the most rewarding parts. It's probably also why I enjoy working now; the group aspect of the volunteer projects likely helped a lot in teaching the younger me that working could be fun.

From what I've heard lots of troops nowadays hardly lift a finger until it's time for someone to do a project to get their Eagle. And that's a damn shame.

>>350110
I really enjoyed too, and thats i want to do for my kids.