/diy/ - Do It Yourself

shipping containers

Go to a Church and ask for shelter and a job. It worked since the Dark Ages.

>>336835

not near a port and can't buy one

>>336837

No you misunderstand

steal one

Also live on the streets or in the woods

only one gives the opportunity to claim the land

Do some squatting in abandoned houses

This gives an address to be able to look for more work

>>336839
>Do some squatting in abandoned houses

He doesn't want to muscle up, tho.

>>336836

Actually I've been in contact with some of my local covenant houses and they don't seem to have room for a single male.

Odd I know but that is what I'm hearing from them.

>>336844
Yeah, that's pretty odd, tbh. But I dunno how it works in the US, I'm from Germany.

>>336839

I was smart enough to get a P.O. box beforehand for mail.

>>336825
No family? no wife or dependant? Why not sell everything you own and become a travelling tramp you know see the world, get cash with odd jobs social welfare etc. What country you in btw I might know some homeless charities that'll help you out maybe even stop you going homeless to begin with

>>336839

The abandoned houses in my area are VERY close to occupied houses. Might get me arrested really quickly.

>No family? no wife or dependant?

No family, no partner, no kids.

There isn't that much I could sell but I'll see.

What type of odd jobs?

USA

>>336851
well Depending on the state you sould be able to get job seeker benefit or at least food stamps, Id say hitchhike your way accross murica you know make a holiday out of it maybe tell an army recruiter about your situation if youd like to stay under a roof and get a job. If not try cash in hand jobs (roofing logging fishing) Seriously if your not a heroin addict there's no way you should be homeless.

What state OP? Helps to know the weather and terrain.

>>336852

I am not an addict just made some stupid decisions "helping" my addict family member will bills that I thought we would share.

>>336853

PA

>>336854
Then your golden, Just keep your moral up and take it all as an adventure,

>>336838
>steal a shipping container
He doesn't even own a car, let alone a truck capable of hauling something like that.

OP, steel yourself. There's no need to feel bad. It's what you have to do. When you're broke and homeless, taking a shower with restroom soap and a discarded half-full water bottle is ingenuity. You have to survive. If you're prepared mentally to survive, you won't need a board to tell you what to do.

That being said, squat abandoned houses and ALWAYS look for the absolute cheapest way to do anything. For $5 I can get 7.5 pounds of beans in syrup at my supermarket, and I'm sure there are much better deals. Ethnic/farmer's/flea markets are great places for the extremely low-bugeted. If you see something in the trash take it. Anything you could use or pawn or even eat. I suggest carrying a legal-length knife for self-defense, since you might come to such a situation.

Have you considered getting arrested on purpose?

Rob a bank with a piece of paper stating you have a deadly weapon. If you get away with the cash, you have a chunk of cash to get started in the next chapter of your life, if you get nabbed by the pigs, you've got a place to stay during the next chapter of your life.

>>336854

For shelter, I would recommend squatting above all else. Yes it's dangerous, but if you really can't spare money for a tent it's your best bet for dealing with the weather conditions. If nosy neighbors are a concern, just leave extremely early.

You'll want to spend the bulk of the day that you aren't hitting the pavement for a job at the library. It's free, it's heated, and you can learn a thing or two during down time from filling out applications.

Soup kitchens are where you will be eating. Get there early. Once the food is gone, it's gone.

Hygiene is still important, even as a homeless person if you want to land a job. For showers, go to a local college with a basketball court for open use. It's free and no one really questions any one. In fact, even if you're dingy they'll probably think you're going for a hipster look.

Good luck to you.

Pepper spray or taser if you think you actually need to disable someone. Knife fights are extremely messy. You end up with cut tendons and shit and you can't block without being horribly damaged.

Knife and posturing is probably all you need to dissuade an attacker.

>>336863
This is actually pretty common in Norway.

Not something like robbing a bank, but doing petty crimes that doesn't hurt anyone physically just to get arrested in order to survive the winter.

My grandfather was the chief of police in our district, and dealt a lot with these people. He had no problem helping them get back on their feet after they got out, and welcomed them back with open arms afterwards.

A large group of them even came to his funeral when he died to pay their respects.

Squatter's rights. Buy a cheap lock and take up residence in an abandoned house.

KFC throws out trash bags upon bags of old chicken that didn't sell that day before close. Watch out for cameras, but otherwise, dig in!

Look up some freegan guides and shit, too. Dumpsters behind stores usually contain a bunch of edible shit.

>>336878
A simpler way might be to just go talk to the chief of police and ask for a job.

>>336890
Norway's prisons are really, really posh.

>>336887

Always wanted to food dive

so much shit they throw away thats fine

Now they crush it here in the uk or protect it by cctv and spiked fences

Its not even bin raiding, everything is packed and just thrown into steal containers

>>336854

Anon, you say you've been in touch with the convent houses, but have you asked an actual priest? Also if not priest then how about imam / rabbi or at any buddhist / hindi places. Charity is almost a duty with the latter two so you might get more help from them. A priest / imam / rabbi might be able to find you better work too remember they have connections.

No salvation army? Also what's the welfare situation in US, no office where you can speak to and explain your situation?

Best of luck anon, and if I were you I'd get everything off that laptop, backed up, and either stashed or pawned. Otherwise it will get stolen by the first dodgy homeless to walk by.

Consider taking a more "long term hiker" life style?

Watch these videos to learn how to survive while on the move:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rP3FdnxP43g&feature=plcp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDhHp1f9hoQ&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iu4HpckUDg&feature=relmfu

Sell everything you own. Buy a car even if it doesn't run. Find a place to park it where it won't get ticketed.

Get a gym membership and shower there. Maintain any job you can. Get a small P.O. box or get a friend to let you use their address for work. If you get a P.O. box you can just use the address of that post office and the box as the APT number.

GLHF

>>336960
Car covers are expensive but they're great for this. Covers your license plate and cops generally won't lift the cover to check if anyone is sleeping inside.

>>336825
OP, can I ask, how did you let it get like this? I'm seriously wondering how you let things get this bad?

Are you in America?

>>336960
This.

If I were in your situation I would be doing the following:
>Maintain those jobs you have and look for more work, be willing to take hard as fuck work and work intense hours
>Get a PO box (which you already have, nice!)
>Buy a $30 tent from BigW/Kmart and camp out of town

Once some more money starts flowing:
>Buy a bike (or I guess if you live in the US, a very cheap old car)
>Get a gym membership

Other options:
>Get a $3 tarp from bunnings or somewhere similar, use this to capture water and shower
>Make sure you stay reasonably clean and not stinky or you wont get hired
>Use public toilets to shave in, etc.

I know it can be hard camping in town, but if you live in a country town surely there'll be a park near the edge of town somewhere that would have public toilets and maybe even a nice bench to eat at in the morning. Then you can camp just on the outskirts or somewhere reasonably hidden. Consider getting a green tent so you can blend in a little easier to avoid harassment.

Does your country have social security/food stamps? Get into that as well.
Do you have any talents? Drawing, painting, music etc?

>>336899
It's such bullshit.
Everything that can be salvaged or is still good to be consumed by others should be donated. Period.

But no, theres all this bullshit out there where you have to feel bad and donate money to save the homeless, and all the while good food and clothing is getting destroyed so that someone doesn't take it when its headed for the land fill.
I know companies need to protect their capital.. but god.. It just seems so bass ackwards to me.
I understand not all of it can be donated, sure, but theres a whole heck of a lot that can.
But don't worry - it should rest on my shoulders. I am the only one who can help the homeless. Not the multi-million, or billion dollar companies. No sirree!

Yes, I mad.

>>336968
on camouflaging a tent:

Make it look like a bush.

/post

>>336968
Also, a lot of workplaces have showers and no one will blame you for taking a shower at work. Even if it's a cold emergency shower! Never underestimate the negative effects of being smelly.

>>336878
Heh. Yeah you could even get an education while in those hotel rooms they call prison cells.

this is an AWESOME thread

>i'm taking notes in case something similar happens to me some day

Keep in mind OP, depending on where you live, if someone catches you squatting on their property, they may shoot you. I would, at least. Nothing against you, it's for mine, and my family's safety.

Unless you live in a place where homicide is nonexistent, in which case, you're golden.

Ask/look on Craigslist, backpage, reddit
catholic worker (stay at ppl's homes)

>>336899
I live in the UK almost daily get 1-2 flour bags full of the days unsold bread (sometimes 4 or even 5 bag including cakes). They dump it out back by the bins, there is competition for it however so you're not guaranteed everyday.

This is an independent baker not a chain, I imagine other similar bakers operate the same. They are not allowed to sell you the bags when we originally asked and quietly told us they threw them out back at the end of the day. We feed our chickens and ducks most of it, none goes to waste.

>>336981
the local hospital has a locker room for the employee's. has as shower, bathroom, free wifi, outlet's to charge thigs. literally you can live at this place. or go to the library here, wifi, computers, books. homeless people always go there to pass the time. btw, doylestown, pa here.

>>337006
>I would, at least. Nothing against you, it's for mine, and my family's safety.

'MURIKA, FUCK YEAH.

>>336842
Lol'd

look for local punk/crusties/hippies that squat and will let you in the house that they are occupying. If you are not an asshole then (probably) neither will them.

http://vimeo.com/52940982

Is it safer to hang out at 24 hr places during the night, and sleep in the day just in a park or something?
That's what I'd do if I was in your situation. Of course, this cycle might disrupt work.
You say you have a job? For god's sake do not lose this job. And what the hell, you may as well lower your standards and try get a job at subway or a fast food place or something... Until you get enough money to get your own place. Working the graveyard shift may help eliminate the necessity to find somewhere safe to sleep for the evening.

Also, the library is probably a good place to hang around. Some gyms, colleges, hospitals etc. have showers I s'pose that you could probably hit once or twice or more with a fair while in between if you just walk around pretending like you're supposed to be there.
The worst part, I imagine, would be being looked at like you're someone to be avoided. That's why personally I'd place personal hygiene/grooming high up on the list. And a job...
But then again, I'm not homeless now and I barely do those things.

bump

>>336863

my record is clean want to keep it that way.

>>336887

will do

>>336904

no, I don't recall speaking directly to any priest

salvation army has a battered womens shelter nearby

I am on a waiting list for welfare. My situation isn't as high priority as other cases.


>>336960

no license, will get the gym membership when cash comes in, have a p.o. box already.


>>336963

lack of money + being too helpful to people when I couldn't really help myself.

I will keep clean

I don't know if I can squat in my area without getting killed.

>>337023
continuing on the hospital band wagon. homeless people who don't look too scruffed up goin in during visitation hours and go to the kitchenette room and end up stealling all the food. Nurses can't do anything and security usually doesn't get there in time if anyone noticed at all.

Just find a bridge to live under. Shelter, some privacy, and a popular place if you want to hitchhike.

Just try to avoid bridge demons.

>>337139
And windy as duck in the winter. Problematicly windy.

Do you have an address something can be mailed to? I'll end you a cheap tent. Or cheap sleeping bag.

>>337144
> as duck

Is there a national forest or state park around you? Dispersed camping is usually free.

>>337158
The autocorrect on my phone doesn't like me swearing.

>>337064

I know you might have dismissed it, but have you thought of asking one of your co-workers for a place to crash? Even mention it to your boss if he / she is cool.

Go to religious places and ask for help there.

get some chapstick and mouthwash for all the cock yr gonna be sucking. (you think I'm kidding now... )

Military.

If you can find a youth hostel or get travel to a country that has one you can work in it for half the week and they give you room and board for the week.

>>336849
this. Winter is coming so you're going to want to head as south as possible. I was homeless for a while and I can tell you its an awful lot more fun to be homeless and on the move (hitch hiking = more fun than you can possibly imagine) than it is to be homeless and trying to scratch out a life in one place. Train hopping and hitch hiking will put you in contact with other folks living the nomadic lifestyle, they're generally pretty happy go-lucky, care-free individuals who'll be more than pleased to help you out and teach you the ins-and-outs that can make homelessness an awful lot of fun.

a few tips:
- Dumpster dive. You'd be amazed what sort of useful things you find. An awful lot of camping gear can be improvised from shit you find in the dumpster if you're resourceful. Also, food. Food is important.
- Carry weed and be willing to share it with total strangers. There are many times I've landed in a strange city not knowing anybody and made a whole mess of friends within a couple hours just because I was willing to smoke up a couple folks.
- Learn to play an instrument, small portable ones are the best. I could sometimes make $20 in half an hour playing harmonica outside a liquor store. Busking is also a great way to meet people when you land in a new town.
- Get good at shop lifting but don't steal from individuals.
- Keep your ears open for opportunity. I've been offered jobs plenty of times while out hitch hiking. You also never know when you might be able to score a really really good weed connect and make some money that way.

>>336825
go ask /k/ about living innawoods

I was homeless for a little while. It sucked a lot. It was scary and people look at you less than human just cause hard times. Anyway I would go to the library and tilt my hat down pretend i was reading to take naps. Sleeping in the woods is fucked unless you like a large variety of nasty spiders in your sleep. I would find a concrete slab that was out of plane view and sleep there or a tennis court at a junior high or some school. Its clean and far from bugs n shit, let the sun wake you and get the fuck outta there. A backpack full of hearty granola and cheese sticks was cheap and more importantly very portable. That is important, all you need you must have with you. I had a bike rode around for several hours a day sometimes. It sucked and i never want it to happen again, get a job asap and get back to a sane fucking life. People who enjoy that sort of thing have very low standards and are most likely fucked in the head to some extent. grit your teeth and claw your way back, fast.

>>337248
this
or get arrested. you can always get a good nights rest and meal in jail

and hobo showers (pits, nuts, feet and face) are pretty easy to get away with at gas stations with lockable bathrooms.

PA in the winter may be a little ruff im an avid camper i would try to find some wool clothing especially socks or some fleece. You may be doing some walking or even find an outdoors job but when you sweat in cold weather and you have to wear your clothes any kind of dampness will be uncomfortable.

>>336825
Been in your place before, OP, I know how it is. If you can help it, do NOT lose that second job. Small-ass income is better than $0 income. If you live in a large city, try to find a Shelter run by a Church Group. I spent some time on the streets of ATL, and the Private/Church-run Shelters are much better than the City/State-run ones, you'll likely have to contribute Volunteer Time for your upkeep, but in the winter, beats decking it under a bridge in below-freezing weather. If you keep relatively shaved (Some stubble is ok, neckbeard quantity is not) and have clothes that fit the 20's-30's age group, try hanging around the University Districts. Pigs are less likely to hassle you, and there's always the opportunity to grab a Leftover Lunch from the various outdoor cafe's and to keep your ears open for work opportunities. Sign up at the local library. The Internet Usage there can be a lifeline like a motherfucker. Allows you to keep contact with your online bro's, as well as family/friends who you can ask to keep an eye out for work opportunities. Keep an open mind, OP, you are about to join the ranks of the Alley-Dwellers. Find a couple of likeminded individuals in your same situation, and group up. Safety in numbers, even in that situation, but keep your eye on them for the first few weeks. Do what you have to to survive, and brace yourself, but keep in mind, as long as you have food (Easy enough, with EBT/SNAP/Food Stamps) it's really not that bad of a situation, because the only direction you can go is Up.

OP, where do you get your power from?
where are you right now?

get a skill and hone it like blade until you can use it to cut through life difficulties. could be painting , car repair, cleaning toilets etc.. but concentrate on that skill.

OP im actually scared i may end up homeless when and if my savings run out. Homeless shelters in the south are like this. I have thought about visiting just too see what im in for incase it happens. I hope they are friendly but there are a lot of desperate mexicans in my part of the country that cant speak english im not racist becuase i have freinds that are latino but the Mexicans fresh from Mexico have nothing to loose and will take what they can get. Things are rough for them. I would think in PA however the people in the homeless shelters may have a little more going for them i would ask around about safety and not carry any valuables. you could ask someone you think you can trust to keep your lap top for you maybee a librarian or go to the police station and see if they can keep it for you they have lockers for things like firearms storage i know. Heres a pic of a homeless shelter with cots its better than freezing your ass of under a bridge i think.

>>337032

also some homeless shelters can get overcrowded around winter so wear some warm clothing incase you have to spend a night or two outside

OP is there a college near you? If so, put on a backpack and go wherever you want on campus as if you belong. You can sleep just about anywhere and nobody will care, because students do this all the time. If you can slip into a dorm, all the better. But you may have to sleep during the day because they will close some things at night.

OP, if you are considering joining the military like some people are suggesting, then get the ball rolling now. I've never heard of a wait to go to basic training shorter than four months. I personally waited nine months back in 2008. The Army and Marines will be the route of least resistance. The Navy and Air Force are extremely selective given the amount of applicants and high retention. The Coast Guard has stopped recruiting altogether.

For food, dry whole oats are nutritious and filling even without cooking. They're very cheap, too.

If you can play an instrument, go busking for some cash to eat.

>>336836

ITT OP learns to fake being a Mormon for a couple of months without getting brain washed.

I actually knew a guy that did this years ago. He got locked up for some bullshit charge and got real bitter and cynical in prison.

So when he got out he said fuck it and started hanging out with the Mormon's. Told them whatever they wanted to hear. How he found the truth about them as a guiding hand had led him to find a book of Mormon in the prison library. How God had told him to move to Utah, etc, etc.

Don't know how it worked out for him in the end.

>>336878

I used to live in Salt Lake City Utah. Several times a winter some bum would throw a brick through the Federal Courthouse window and stand there and wait to get arrested. The reason they gave was they said the food and living conditions at the Mission were that bad.

Welcome to America.

Also OP I will tell you from experience a lot of the people posting in this thread have never been homeless. So I would take a lot of this advice with a grain of salt.

Overall I would say if your situation is that bad and you don't have any real bros that are willing to help you out in your time of need its time to fucking move south to some place warm. Obviously your jobs in the area are shitty and the people sound shitty so why stick around?

OP here.

>>337248

Actually tried to enlist way before this all happened. Something medically was wrong and they wouldn't let me in

>>337283

>- Dumpster dive. You'd be amazed what sort of useful things you find. An awful lot of camping gear can be improvised from shit you find in the dumpster if you're resourceful. Also, food. Food is important.

Supermarkets in my area all use compactors.

>- Carry weed and be willing to share it with total strangers. There are many times I've landed in a strange city not knowing anybody and made a whole mess of friends within a couple hours just because I was willing to smoke up a couple folks.

I have no drug dealing contacts and want to clean my record clean.

>- Learn to play an instrument, small portable ones are the best. I could sometimes make $20 in half an hour playing harmonica outside a liquor store. Busking is also a great way to meet people when you land in a new town.

This might be a good idea. Don't have an instrument to play though?

>- Get good at shop lifting but don't steal from individuals.

Want to keep my record clean. There is too much stuff in store that will get you caught without even thinking about it.

>- Keep your ears open for opportunity. I've been offered jobs plenty of times while out hitch hiking.

Will do.

>>337330

I'll have to get in contact with my local covenants again.

>>337349

>right now

wendys

>>337350

I just have to think of a marketable skill that I can improve on.

>>337435

Yeah about 20 miles away.

>>338467

>Obviously your jobs in the area are shitty and the people sound shitty so why stick around?

I just don't want to move somewhere and be homeless in a warmer environment. I still have employment. I don't know anyone at all in the/south west/south east but that doesn't really matter when people that do live close to me aren't helping either.

Meh.

>>337358
South is better due to non-awful winters. Follow the workingman Mexicans to get a job doing farm labor or odd jobs. They actually plan to get jobs where their family and friends got them.

Here's what I did OP except I slept in a car:

-I cleaned up in public bathrooms, I found one that locks and is for only 1 person at a local laundry place and I would mostly clean up there.

-I asked the Salvation Army if I could use there showers in the mornings

-I stayed at the public library pretty much when I wasn't working and worked on coding and learning Linux.

-Work until you get enough for a security payment for an apartment which should take not too long.

I was 18 at the time, and had lost my job due to emergency mental help.Took me about 2 months to dig myself out of my hole.I think you should tent it though and get a gym membership.

Follow the oil boom, OP. There is a severe shortage of ALL types of workers in oil boom areas, like North Dakota and Midland, TX. I heard that entry level workers at Subway are making $19/hr. You probably won't be able to find housing, but if you get work within the oil industry proper, there may be worker housing for you.

Best places to be homeless in America are key west and hawaii. They say 5 homeless people arrive at the hawaii airport every day. They save up their panhandling and relief payments to score id and tickets.

>>336825
go to local welfare office and explain situation. They'll give you a lot of support/options if not benefits.

I've been homeless before, but had a car to live in and friends I could stay with some of the time.

Going from one shit temp job to another isn't going to help you out the hole you're in.

I've worked a good number of temp jobs before. The temp/day-labor agencies will blackball you really easily if you either fuck anything up or don't want to come back to the worst shit jobs they give you. But if you just need to some cash that day, temp work is an option.

My advice would be to seek better employment. Specifically get into a trade if you can. Contact your local union halls, plumbers, pipe fitters, electricians, heating and air HVAC work, etc., and ask about openings. Also call local companies that do that and ask about openings. You might be able to land a job as a helper and work your way up into a decent paying job eventually.

>>338705
that won't work. you cant just call a union up and say you want to be an electrician... there's classes to take and fees to pay. not to mention most apprenticeships have pretty long waiting lists.

>>338709

That's why I said temp work is an option, until he can get into a trade. Can't hurt to call and ask. You never know, might be some openings available.

>>338709
you'd be surprised how far ringing up/speaking to people will get you. Business is all about networking, unless you're some aspie fuck who sells fuckable MLP plushies on the internet.

>>338737
why u mad?

>>336825
http://scavengeuk.dyndns.org/evasion/evasion.html
This is a story about a guy living without a home for some time. What's your location bro?

reCAPTCHA: intcabin ughlrea

>>336854
What part of PA, I'm in Weirton, but frequent Pittsburgh twice a week or so

Print lease at library for a vacant house.
Sign for both owner (fake sig) and your sig as tenant.
Keep lease handy.
If/when someone shows up saying it is bank owned/police show up/etc, show the lease and say you're paying $x per month and spent your whole savings for the deposit.

Play the dumb victim card and you may get kicked out, but you usually won't be charged for trespassing - just get out as soon as you're told.

>>338757
Speaking of which, my car sits in a parking lot for about 4 days straight, OP, and it's got shit for some survival, but my poorness has really cut down on my preparedness.

Hi OP, I've been homeless since January 2012. Find yourself a nice safe town if yours isn't already. If you have friends, let them know your situation and you can house bump for awhile. It sucks cuz gettin colder, but things work out

also, avoid other homeless; generally they are valuable for their street knowledge, but not very trustworthy. It always feels better to be a nomadic bum too

>>338758

that's creative and just might work

>>338758
Will elaborate more on this - was in a rush on my phone earlier.

>Find a vacant house, preferably one owned by a bank. (Let's say 123 Main St)
>Find generic lease, use 123 Main St Yourcity, ST 00000 as address. Put the agreement is between <your_name> and <fake_company_name_LLC> (make it a company name so it's more believable and easier to play the victim) for $X per month and an $Y security deposit.
>Print lease and sign your name as tenant, and have a fakey signature above the LLC signature line.
>Say you met with some man at the house and you gave him your $Y security deposit in cash and moved in.
>Tell them it's your first month living at the house and you haven't actually paid a monthly rent yet, so you're not sure how it's collected (i.e. not sure if man will come back and get rent, if you're supposed to mail, etc.)
>Bonus points: demand a relocation fee (usually called Cash For Keys from the bank). The bank, usually mandated by the government, will pay any occupant $Z amount of monies to move out of the house and leave it in "broom swept condition".
>Again, get out when you are told and don't make a hassle of it, because they will start to dig deeper.

Continued:
>>339000

Tips:
>Find out which houses are vacant by your local county property search website (google: <your_county> property search). Generally you can search by owner name. Try "Federal National Mortgage Association (FNMA), Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation (FHLMC), Bank of America, N.A, etc." Usually the government run entities will increase your chance of the CFK incentive.
>Scout out the properties. Steer clear of the houses that have real estate For Sale signs, or ones that have pieces of paper in the window that say "This property is being maintained by Cyprexx/Safeguard/etc." This means someone is routinely at the property inspecting it/cutting the grass/etc and will likely find you out (which isn't a huge issue, since we have you covered above, but ones without signs should let you stay longer)
>You can use houses that aren't currently bank owned according to the property appraiser website, but I would scout it first and make sure it's completely empty. Usually, people will receive a letter saying the foreclosure process is started, and will move out immediately, even though it won't be months, or possibly years, before the house actually gets foreclosed. This is the opportune time to live in it because generally, the homeowner is gone and the bank won't be taking it back for quite some time. These may just be more difficult to find.

>>338509
Shoplifting in small amounts cannot get you arrested read up on your 7th amendment rights OP.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventh_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

>>338534

Also this. I constantly read stories about farmers in the warmer latittudes that bitch about not being able to find workers.

Their code is they can't find cheap disposable Mexican labor they can pay less than minimum wage to and treat like shit, expose to toxic chemicals and treat like shit and pay or not pay depending upon the mood of their lord and master.

Look when I was growing up ag work was the eight ball in the corner pocket that kept the country humming along.

If you ever needed money you went to a farm and applied for a low wage job which would keep you above water until you could move along to something better.

Then they dropped the flood gates for illegal immigration and the country went to shit.

There as of late and rightuflly so been a lot of crackdowns on illegal labor. It only makes sense in a country with such high unemployment.

Find some of these big farms and ask for a job. If they refuse to hire an English speaker call immigration and OSHA. I did a small job at a condo complex recently and all the illegals were acting like dicks to me.

One phone call and three days latter they were all gone.

Think about it anon.

>>337006

Dude as a life long gun owner people like you disgust me.

You can't shoot a squatter on apparently abandoned property.

They call it murder. God I hope you are trolling and don't own any guns.

The sad reality is more than half of all murders go unsolved. A homeless purpose with no job or family isn't going to be missed if someone shoots them when they are squatting on their property. And by missed, I mean nobody is going to look for them. This is why hispanics and black people go around murdering the homeless for gang initiation.

>>338691

This mysterious "They" would be wrong. I would know as I spent six winters there just trying to survive. I had my summer money to barely get me by.

But even at that living on remote beaches and lava fields looking for any spare job kinda sucked. I had to fight for my life a few times as a few of the locals are really, really, really psychotic shit bags.

The WWOOF programs won't even feed you. So you end up working twelve hours a day and being on food stamps working for psychotic shit beasts that dropped too much acid in the sixties.

Don't let the tourists pamphletes and the Aloha horseshit fool you. Hawaii is a really shitty place to make a go of it.

If I had a bunch of money and could live behind a gate I would go back. Other than that I wouldn't consider it.

>>339052

You are a truly sick individual. Post reported. I hope it will be gone by morning.

OP, go talk to your local YMCA. At the very least, you can join (they have financial assistance for the membership fee if you're poor) and use the shower facilities. There's a good chance they can help you find transitional housing, job training, etc.

You could probably volunteer some time there as well, which may eventually lead to a job.

I'm going to be very serious when I say this, OP. Don't try and go it alone. Find people who will help you. All this Rugged Individual, dependency is weakness, lone wolf noise that America loves to spout is just that, noise. People need each other, there's no shame in that.

>>339067
Not that guy, but its true
Be careful squatting, being homeless is dangerous

>>336825
Where are you in PA? Maybe you could stay with me bro

Sleep in any 24/7 department store
Hide behind boxes of bullshit on a shelf...beats the cold streets

But yeah fucking relocate

>>337006
You'd shoot somebody who isn't leveling a weapon at you?
You need to re-examine your values.

If you are in DFW I would let you stay with me bro.

Why not just join the military. Pass their test, which is really hard not to, and they will shelter/feed you. If you're lucky they will give a job that pays rather than a grunt soldier getting blown up yet still getting paid.

>>339045
>>339136
You think that a homeowner who comes home to an empty house and sees a trespasser is going to be docile?
Squatting isnt well known here in the US, he would probably think you are a drug fiend using the property as a crack house or meth lab or somesuch.

There is no trust between the homeowner and a homeless trespasser.
Want to have a friendly conversation to explain the situation of why you think you can use loopholes to fuck with someone elses property?

If they are reasonable they will keep the trespasser under gunpoint till the police come, but the police are only good for filling out paperwork after a crime has been committed.
One wrong move and you are dead.

Not sure why you want to pretend that it wouldnt be a situation that turns bad fast.

>>336899
I know i'm late but I worked at a bagel shop in the us and we used to throw out dozens of bagels at the end of the day.

>>336825

I'm currently homeless as well op. I do have a car though and the street thar I am on has open wifi for me to browse on my phone.

22 white male
Socal,
Have a part time job 20-25 hrs, looking for better paying full time occupation.

I'm going to read through this thread, thanks op I was really starting to feel lonely(always at night). Any form of struggle is eased when you have someone to share it with.

>>339178
Reading this thread gave me exactly what I needed, confidence in my actions.

I was thinking about relocating to a different town in California as I do not have any family here, no reason to stay. But why? I do not posess any trades or skills above entry level positions...seems like I would be just running away to a different town only to find myself in the sane circumstances if not worse.

I have few paychecks saved up, enough to cover about month of rent. I see this as an unviable choice now even as I am so tempted to rest my head in a warm home. I would pretty much give myself a 1 month deadline to find a job and if I didn't all of my savings would be gone and again I would be where I am now but wven more depressed if not an heroed.

I got myself a gym membership, ebt card, and I work at an outdoors store which I get huge discount in. The most rational coarse of action would be to remain living in my vehicle.
I needed to share this with you guys, now I am completely certain I can do this. There shouls be a lot less lows in my day now that I have a solid battle plan ready to be executed in the upmost fassion.

look in your area and see if there is a ywca tell them you are in dire need of a safe place to sleep because you were being abused by who ever you were previously living with(they won't force you to press charges you could even make up a god damn name). They WILL help you find a place and/or they usually have budgets that they have for men or trans women clients where they spring for a hotel room for 30 days, they provide food and it's a hotel room by yourself for 30 days.

This is the most beautiful thing I have ever seen on 4Chan. So much love for a fellow anon.

>>339178
You should go talk to the YMCA as well, they have assistance programs specifically for people under the age of 24.

I can say that after being homeless for quite a few years in both PA and FL that survival is a matter of willpower on the streets.

You need willpower to wake up, to find food, etc.

Food pantries are good, but if you're homeless you can't cook easily.

Finding a place to sleep is hard, libraries have guards that will wake you up. Find a college or university near you. You can usually always sleep in the student union/activities building undisturbed during normal school hours (if the school has hours. If it's "open" 24 hours, you're even better off)

When I was homeless in Pittsburgh, I slept in the Library of the University of Pittsburgh and in various buildings around CMU. It also helped that I was of college age and that I was quite savvy with computers and skilled in chemistry. So, I was able, after a little legwork, to find a job at CMU and get faculty to support me all while I was not enrolled there. It got me off the streets, in fact that time.

The second time I was homeless, I was in Florida. The situation was very unlike it was in PA. In PA, the homeless stays well under the radar. In FL. The homeless is everywhere. Up in your grill, asking you for change at the ATM, begging for a bite of your hotdog, etc.

But, in FL, there was A LOT of support for homeless. Food pantries, soup kitchens, shelters, etc. Also, it wasn't so bad sleeping under the stars in a tropical environment. Rain was an issue, however. Most of the storms here were not little ones.. And getting everything wet was a constant hassle.

I guess the point I am trying to make is that there's a lot of "guides" out there. But, ultimately it is up to your own desire to live and your own willpower to help you survive. You need to be creative, strong, resourceful and above all... Hopeful.

Do not let yourself fall into the spiral of self-destruction I've seen many of my fellow homeless fall into. Keep working forward toward a realistic goal.

don't f'n go to key west. The police there are assholes and you will not do well there. The whole place is FULL of homeless and it's such a small area that you will not be inconspicuous at all.

>>336825
find abandoned building house
sublet rooms
????
profit

why is /diy/ the only good board?

why is /diy/ the only good board.

>>339372

So if you are 24 and up you don't get any assistance?

>>338691
why hawaii?

>>339000
no tell anyone to fuck of your land untill the owner gets a warrant or court order , you have until someone worth better claim to title comes along, and that is not the police

>>337006
this is true in some states

>>339377
>CMU
Heh, I'm at CMU right now. I can confirm that people sleep on campus all the time. There's even a nap pod in the library (pic related). Also, CMU has a half dozen or so showers scattered across campus that are usually open 24hrs. I think a lot of schools lock up at night (CMU does), but there's usually a few open doors to every building if you look carefully enough, and a few classrooms left unlocked in every building. Most universities are probably similar, except the ones in bad neighborhoods (like USC).

>>339494
Tropical paradise
But it's also a tropical paradise for giant cockroaches.
My brother just had to get his car fumigated.
Honestly, that's a business model in Hawaii. People make a living fumigating cars. I live in the south where there are lots of roaches, but I've never had to fumigate my car.
Besides giant jungle roaches, there are crazy, methed out localswho hate all mainlanders.
Plus hard to get work.
So maybe don't go to hawaii

>>339488
No, you can still get assistance but they have programs specifically for helping younger people get housing and jobs. If you're over 24 they'll still try and help you, but they might refer you to another organization.

Where do you live OP?

Also holiday season is coming up. Apply for seasonal jobs at distribution centers. Target, Walmart, Best Buy, etc.

My sisters father is a manager at Best Buy and he says they usually keep every seasonal worker who shows up everyday. Same goes for UPS workers that load shit into the trucks. I worked there when I was 18 and they asked me to stay but it was night shift and I couldn't because of college.

Also go to Sheetz. At night one or two cops usually hang out there. I got caught for curfew once when I was 17 when my parents kicked me out and they bought me stuff to eat and the guy drive me 2 hours to my uncle after he was off duty. 4 years later that guy turns out to be my brothers new gf's brother. Cops are pretty cool guys; especially the young ones. Just ask them for help. They usually don't mind unless you look like a meth addict.

bumping

Hey Op. Get a bus ticket to Williston, North Dakota. If you can't find work in Williston you're not looking. Hit up Haliburton online. You might be able to find a job before you even get there.

>>340811
You need skills now for the jobs in Williston County, the days of just showing up with your HS diploma and making $30/hr ended about 6 months ago.

Dont fret though, fracking is sweeping the nation and there looks to be another boom coming in North Carolina fairly soon provided the state legislature OK's it.

When I went homeless for a while I was living in Colorado in the dead of the winter. Got fired from my job that was also my housing. To get by I slept at construction sites, at under-trafficked areas of hotels or other round-the-clock public businesses, or if I was lucky with someone from a bar. Also look for bathrooms with ceiling tiles, go up in there and check around, sometimes you get lucky and can drop in on a place that decent for sleeping. Also sometimes you can sleep in the actual ceiling if there is a small spot for you to lay your sleeping bag. Bonus you can keep from looking homeless by grooming in the restroom. Good luck and get a warm sleeping bag, and a good backpack.

build a nice treehouse

get a pice of cardboard and write on in" family was kidnapped by ninjas need money for karate lessons" then go stand on a street corner

OP here.

There are quite a few places around me that are looking for people and I have been submitting applications.

Been sleeping in various places and one night I tried to sleep outside without a sleeping bag. Not fun at all.

I am washing up in different public bathrooms.

Still staying positive and know that this situation will only be temporary.

>>341684
what are you doing for food?

GO TO CHURCH ASK FOR HELP
KEEP TRYING CHURCHES

>>340843
I'm now going to think of you every time I enter a public restroom.
I'm also imagining you with piercing, bloodshot eyes staring down from the ceiling.

But a neat idea non-the-less.

good luck op hope you do well.

>>341693

I'm still eating dried non-pershiable foods I've had before this whole thing went down crackers, granola bars, raisins, etc. Water is free from fountains so that is what I have been drinking.

>>341702

I really haven't been putting enough effort into this at all.

>>341733

I'm not that scary and I try to get naps in inconspicuous places here and there so I am not acting like a crazy zombie.

>>341839

Thank you.