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So /diy/ this is my first time here, so forgive me if I break any unwritten codes of conduct, but I was curious as to making the following:

I am interested in making a Grappling Hook launcher, using various instructions on how to make a co2 powered air gun. Though I want to maintain some portability, so my question is, would a 12g CO2 cartridge offer enough psi to launch the hook a reasonable distance?

>> No.288656

>>288641
A single one? No.
Several set to release at once into a confined space? Maybe.
Could try looking into paintball C02 tanks.

>> No.288667
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>>288641
have you considered Spring loading your gun or using a crossbow?

>> No.288677

>>288667
for this concept, research P.I.A.T. The British anti-armour weapon of world war 2 (Imagine a bazooka, but rather than rockets, fucking huge badass springs)

>> No.288683

>>288641
Also, this wont work with a pistol - professional ones are designed to shoot up to 1g (maybe 1.5 if you pushed it) of weight a few hundred metres tops. Any diy grappling hook, strong enough to hold you, is likely to be very minimum 200g, so crossbow or spring launcher is best. If go with crossbow, find a local archery club, you might be able to get some carbon fibre compound limbs second hand, or if size isnt an issue, get a glass-fibre bow, if your in the UK, everywhere is trying to get rid of them as they're semi-illegal ish (not because they're deadly to other people, cos they can be dangerous if they snap on you). However these will be big, and would probably only launch said hook so far.

Another thing anon - what rope will you be using, remember that even if 1m of it is light, once you fire it, its fighting against the entire weight of the rope, any wind on the rope, friction of it uncoiling etc.

If I were you OP, I'd probably go for a piat shape/size (if you want to launch it more than 15m) if not, then crossbow.

>> No.288696

Why /diy/ has such a hardon for this? You guys regularly escape prisons / metnal institutions or something? Not to mention that simply throwing the hook would be way more practical than hauling around a huge crossbow or something.

>> No.288707

>>288683
>what rope will you be using
Not OP, but for OP I suggest 7.5mm technora rope. It's what firefighters use as a "last line" escape rope. Anything bigger than 5mm is big enough fot a human to grasp, and it's weight-rated to 4000lbs. It's just low stretch, so dead-drops are going to hurt...

>> No.288709

Chances are, you won't make anything portable enough that will shoot the hook further than you can throw it. Especially if the hook is heavy.

>> No.288711

>>288707
Install a Velcro slow down system and that rope would be perfect.

>> No.288716

>>288709
unless...
you use a small breathing tank as an accumulator for a gas piston that would shoot the hook.
Still would take a fuckhuge pump to pressurise that shit, i think.

>> No.288723

>>288716
>portability
>huge piston
I'm thinking not for OP, but a useful thought.

>> No.288727

>>288641
Better question - how about a personal winch to climb the rope for you? How would one go about building that?

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>>288727
How about a contraption that attaches itself to the rope like a reel and has a few wheels to make the climb easier?
Pic related, its a crude drawing.

>> No.288747

>>288733
Moar like Atlas.

http://www.dtic.mil/ndia/2007pto/Wednesday/MAJRexBlair_MrNathanBall.pdf

>> No.288790

>>288727
Check out a Petzel ascender....Maybe we can model something off that same idea.

>> No.288795

>>288790
How does this nifty device work? I can't find instructions for use, only specs.

If this works like I think it's going to, it seems like you could use this device for ascending AND rappeling, eliminating the need for two seperate pieces of equipment.

http://m.rei.com/mt/www.rei.com/product/782459/petzl-ascension-ascender

>> No.288797

>>288795
Well, basically its a rig that only allows the rope to pass one way through it...Ive only used one once, but you use two of them at a time....one for your feet, and one for your arms...You stand up straight and get a grip, then bring your legs up and get ahold then stand up and retreat....Its a bit of a work out but it doesnt have to be when you get the technique down....

>> No.288804

>>288795
For descending...You will never find anything simpler than a figure 8....I think a guy could weld some metal into the general shape

>> No.288910

OP here
Wow...I did not expect this kind of response.

So from the looks of it it appears that I may decide to do the crossbow style launcher as it seems like the best size vs power option and funny enough just last night I had thought of an idea for some contraption for ascension/decention.

Thanks for all the ideas anons!

>> No.288932

After spending some quality time on the "slingshot channel" from youtube. I'm sure you could build a very compact rubber band powered crossbow/rifle. Instead of using bows for the power (and having it in the way) flat band rubber bands passed through a pulley or two will give you enough force. Think spear gun on steroids. Remember you can have multiple bands each one so strong it takes your whole body weight to stretch and load. A few of those in one shot could be dangerous. Good fun, good luck.

Check out "recreational tree climbing" forums. This is the kind of thing they live for and have tried it all. Giant slingshots to compressed air rockets.

Great project wait till you make it and find out how useless it really will be. Grappling hooks are great for ship to ship boarding. It will take one missed aim to see how "un-batman" trying to fish a hook out of a snagged limb/gutter/angry persons bedroom window/ etc.

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>>288932

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Something like this?