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Where is your pic from, OP?

I believe it is a draft Da Vinci drew in his anatomy sketch book. I could be wrong!!

Also, these tutorials are terrible.

Here's some of the best anatomical reference on the interwebs: http://inspirationalartworks.blogspot.com/p/anatomy-images.html

The only thing you need to do when learning to draw is get over the initial symbolic drawing phase. After that it's a matter of putting the hours in, honing your technique, sense of beauty and your inner reference library (anatomy, aspects of design, stuff like that)

These tutorials you read up on the internet will never help you. Get Keys to drawing by Dodson or Betty Edwards drawing on the right side of the brain. But don't read Edward's psychobabble, it's a bunch of bullshit. Just do the exercices.

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I dunno man, da vinci was pretty clean with his lines but some of his drawings were messier. Could be, but I'm not sure.

>>217548

It is essential to learn the basic proportions, dimensions, and the mathematics behind it if you wish to become a master. it's not as simple as picking up a pencil and "using the right side of your brain" These guidelines may be drawn roughly, but without understanding the basic principles, it'll be a challenge to draw completely from your imagination.

Bump for "Drawing on the right side of the Brain". Best single book about drawing evar. Go through all the exercises. Also get a friend to do 2, 5 and 10 second poses, draw on a big block of newsprint.

>>217563

You use the right side of your brain any time you draw, regardless of any analytics behind it.

>>217548

All good suggestions.

thanks for posting these OP

>>217563

You only need these if you don't have a master to teach you. You should read up on the russian method. They pretty much teach you anatomy and perspective and the standard technique for studying and then leave you on your own and correct you as you go. You don't need to know proportions, because they vary from person to person. You need to learn a sense of proportion, not rules.

>>217603

I disagree completely, all measurements are different, yes, but through learning the methods you'll be able to calculate the proportions accurately. Have you not seen Leonado's Vitruvian Man ?

>>217603
Vitruvian man only proves the plasticity and Da Vinci's obsession with proportions. There's no need for them. A naked eye can reveal more than any measurements about any work. Just look at some Ilya Repin. They've named their most prestigious academy after him and he's one of the best examples of what you can achieve when you ditch all the measuring equipment and grids.

Is da vinci too mainstream for you? His techniques and the math behind it have proven to work for decades, but we're supposed to ignore this and opt for your option because you're a glorious winged faggot Hipster who 'knows better'!!

>>217492
o god thats terrible. learn to draw the underlying skeletal structure instead of elipses when drawing postures.

I should have kept reading.
by >>217754 i meant, do >>217538

>>217548
What do you mean by "initial symbolic drawing phase"?

Also, thanks to everyone who posted all this info.

>2012 caring about proportions

>>217793

Wait...is that you ? Emo Millhouse ?

Don't borther learning to draw, heaps of people in china have been drawing since they were 6 and can do a better job and for next to no money.

Don't bother, china makes it for cheaper and better quality.

>>217731
You can do whatever you want. There's no rules in art. I just prefer the russian method over measuring and copying.

mfw asking about this on /diy/ and not /ic/
>doin it wrong

>>217972
You will get no good answers from either source so it's irrelevant.

I dunno why people are complaining that the anatomy sheets aren't correct. We are all snowflakes, and need to consider that there isn't a 100% correct anatomy sheet and there will never be one. Artist have been perceiving the human body differently for centuries.

Thanks for the sheets Werblu, anatomy sheets aren't the easiest things to find on the web.

>>217515
My earliest human drawings as atalented /diy/erwere profiles -- I followed a similar formula as described here, but my faces always looked like Egyption paintings.

>>217972
i am a fairly good drawer but i dont go there . if i would post i would do it in /a/ drawfag treads

>>218025
*threads

>>218025

>drawer

So how many pairs of socks can you hold at once?

>>217548
>These tutorials you read up on the internet will never help you. Get Keys to drawing by Dodson or Betty Edwards drawing on the right side of the brain.
Translation: don't get free tutorials, buy some instead.

You're an idiot. You're right about needing practice, even with tutorials, but you're still an idiot.

>>217603
>You need to learn a sense of proportion, not rules.

This is an aspie view of the guidelines in technique books. There is a reason aspies don't tend to do creative shit very well.

Protip: guidelines are flexible, rules are not. Learn the difference and prosper.

>>218048

>There is a reason aspies don't tend to do creative shit very well.

...Before I say anything, I'm gonna let you sit back and reflect on that statement for a bit.

>>218049
>Implying you're not just asking for the reflection to hide the fact that you've nothing to say.

>>218055

Speaking as an Aspie who draws and paints and writes, I'd say I don't really need to say anything.

>>218055

>>218049 here.

I wanted you to reflect, because Hans Asperger described his patients as "Little Professors."

Asperger Syndrome brains are specialists - meaning they tend to be extremely GOOD at whatever their fixation is, which includes creative/artistic fields as well.

Your statement was like saying, "There's a reason fish don't tend to be good swimmers."

good lord, how did a drawing tut thread become about Asperger's? I will put in my two cents as an anon mother of an autistic child. He Loves Trains. He can tell you everything you want to know about trains, when they come and when they go, what era a picture of a certain train is from, who the inventor of that train was and when it was last use din service. He can draw them from memory and include tiny details that a regular person would forget to. I would draw a boxcar and he would "finish" the drawing for me even at a very young age. The human brain is amazing and it is definitely BUILT for storing information. Asperger's and Autism stunt one part of the brain, usually social and self-image, but they do NOT stop creativity.
my captcha has a phone number in it...

I just wanted to give props to OP for starting a thread about DIY drawing, as learning/practicing drawing is one of my summer projects.

Thanks to everyone who wanted to help others to draw.
To those hating and treating opinions as fact...The Vidya will always accept you.

You will never be a good artist if you aren't already one by now. The reason is simple. You don't have good drawing genes.

>>218102

This statement is retarded!!

The spirit of /ic/ has a far reach

Let's just redeem this thread with more tutorials and good reference

Here's some vesalius for OP

Are there any tips on drawing hands?

I've been wanting to get into drawing cartoons and I can do generic bodies and faces, but I can never seem to get hands right. I don't want to go the three finger route. It's a bit TOO cartoony for me.

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>>218063
>I wanted you to reflect, because Hans Asperger described his patients as "Little Professors."

Yes, "little professors", not "little painters".

>Asperger Syndrome brains are specialists - meaning they tend to be extremely GOOD at whatever their fixation is, which includes creative/artistic fields as well.

It's a rare fixation that is artistic, even rarer that an artistic aspie bee good at multiple media. Even so, when one's fixation is on something artistic, he will figure out the the same principles being denounced as 'overly restrictive rules', but are actually principles necessary to make a piece of art look good.

>Your statement was like saying, "There's a reason fish don't tend to be good swimmers."

It was more like "there's a reason fish don't tend to be good cooks".

As an aspie who paints with an aspie son who plays guitar, I can tell you that we two tend to be the minority. The bulk of the other kids at the clinic, both for me as a child and for my son now, don't tend ot be artistic. They like to focus on irrelevant facts like the specs on fire engines or whether han fired before greedo.

dumping what I have 1/?

http://www.alexhays.com/loomis/Loomis%20Figure%20Draw.pdf
An in depth free e-book specifically about the anatomy. Definitely worth a look!!

These are great thanks! And they also make me feel like a pile of shit for not practicing enough.

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this book looks really good, where can I get a pdf??

Thanks for the contributions guys!!

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Sorry for the days-long delay. captcha has been dildoes these days and couldn't post at all

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That's all I have, not the best stuff, but I hope it's useful to someone

Thanks bro, great stuff