/diy/ - Do It Yourself

>>2023896
Wet shit down, don't breathe, use face diaper.
Also, keep in mind asbestos are still not banned in Russia, so it means asbestos are safe.
It is not like asbestos will come and kill you

>>2023896
1. don't be on the ground when they break
2. clean up ground tomorrow
3. continue to curse your ancestors, that always goes well.

>>2023908
they also mine and make shit with in india with no protection whatsoever, so anon will be fine right?

>>2023896
Assuming you're not caring about the legality of it, keep shit wet and wear a proper respirator the entire time. The risk with asbestos is when stuff gets in the air and generally speaking you need more than a few particles in your lungs to do any real damage. The people who are getting hurt by asbestos or people who work with it on a regular basis not homeowners who happen to break a tile off of their roof. P100 filters should be good enough and you can find them on Amazon for far less than you might expect given the 'Rona Apocalypse.

>>2023908
>Also, keep in mind asbestos are still not banned in Russia
they also used asbestos in movies as a snow effect.

>>2023933
This. For half a day of removing the stuff you'd be fine just soaking it with a hose and wearing any old mask or even just holding your breath if theres a cloud of it, but it's better to be safe than sorry lad

>>2023896
The asbestos fibers are bound in the concrete so only drilling sawing sanding is really dangerous.

the people that got rekt worked in asbestos manufacturing plants, or were boilermakers that used loose asbestos wool to insulate shit.

wear a good FFP3 Mask, not a rona mask. and use a tyvec suit you can dispose later on. you dont want to bring you're clothes indoors
there are reported cases of housewife's of asbestos factory workers who got lung cancer from washing the work clothes but then we talk about 40+years of washing.

>>2023896
asbestos isn't that dangerous when you do just one removal. it only becomes a problen when you do it regularly.

>>2023933
why do they even make such a fuss about legality. if they would say put it in a sealed bag and we take it for free at the fill that stuff would actually end there.

my dad smashed >>2023896 pic related plates and threw them in the trash bin didn't wore a mask to. i hope he wont suffer from this.
he told me back in the day if a farmer redid his Barn (in Germany these were used instead of corrugated sheet metal) they laid them along rural roads and then drove a tractor with a cultipacker over them.

>>2023908
>asbestos are still not banned in Russia, so it means asbestos are safe
kek
>>2023896
>How the fuck isn't this a death sentence?
It's not, use a respirator and eye protection for the dust, hose it down to limit the dusting, that's about it. Asbestos is chemically inert, as long as you don't get the fine particulate in your lungs (hence the respirator) it is totally harmless. In fact if properly maintained asbestos makes for a good roofing, the healthfags are just having a kneejerk reaction because it was ignored as a risk for so many years.

>>2023935
Nah, son. They used asbestos EVERYWHERE for snow effects. If you've got some old Christmas decorations handed down from grandma and they have fake snow on them? Asbestos. Enjoy.

Just keep it wet while you work, have a tarp to catch it all, keep it wet, bag it and seal the bags with tape.
I've worked on asbestos floors that havent been stripped for 30 years because muh health, and got them looking like new.

>>2023945
>reported cases of housewife's of asbestos factory workers who got lung cancer from washing the work clothes
I'm sure they didn't smoke like 80% of americans before 1980, right?

>>2023896
Stop being a pussy and rip that shit down. You're not gonna get lung cancer from one afternoon working with asbestos roofing. There will be zero significant amounts of it in the air unless you plan to pulverize it in a wood chipper. Even if you did, just stay upwind.

>>2023910
Yes.
Only dumb nations banned asbestos. Asbestos are cheap, fire-proof and last forever. Also good insulators. Buy asbestos now.
>>2023999
>pulverize it in a wood chipper.
Hmmm... I have perfect material in mind. OSB asbestos.

>>2023896
Just dump it around your local area the city will come clean it up

We should use MORE asbestos

>>2023999
This kind of boomer "it's not a problem until it happens specifically to me(and then I'll deny it and wait three years before going to a doctor) bullshit is why it had to be banned

>>2023997

This right here.

>>2023896

Asbestos is way more dangerous for smokers bringing their hands near their mouths and nose and inhaling the particles with their smoke and breathing. Your body can't break it down and you have a hard time expelling it with tar filled lungs and paralyzed cilia. People working with it regularly need to treat it like a hazardous substance because continual exposure increases chance of getting some permanently stuck in your lungs. Wear a respirator and tyvek and eye protection if you can. strip and shower outside, straight into the trash bag with clothes. Gg no re.

Asbestos is SAFE

Buy as much asbestos as you can

>>2024185
Same as tobacco smoke, handguns and morbid obesity.

>>2024133
>Be Robert E. Murray
>Work as miner starting at 16, back in the 1950s
>Work your way up the ladder and become an executive
>Eventually found your own coal mining company
>Spend decades claiming that 'unions are the enemy' while operating mines unsafely to save money
>Have one of your mines collapse and kill 9 people due to unsafe techniques and ignored warning signs
>Pay the largest single fine for safety violations in US mining history
>Spend decades fighting against black lung benefits for miners because it cuts into your profits
>Close a mine for a day and 'encourage' your miners to attend a local political rally for a candidate you like, without pay
>Spend decades denying climate change because it threatens your business model
>Sue multiple journalists and newspapers for defamation for reporting on your dirty deeds and lose every single case
>Claim multiple times to multiple sources that your failing lungs are due to "idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis" and not black lung
>Spend hundreds of thousands of dollars of company money backing political candidates using SuperPACs
>Beg Donald Trump to force coal plants to reopen even though they are unprofitable to try and prop up coal
>Have your business file for bankruptcy because coal is over but you couldn't read the writing on the wall
>Step down from your business because you ran it into the ground but claim BLACK LUNG is the reason
>File for black lung benefits shortly thereafter because your company no longer has to pay for it
>Die later that month because even the Devil is tired of your shit at this point

>>2024246
Eat shit bob.

>>2023896
It's not as bad as (((lawyers))) have made it out to be. Same with (((black mold))). It was different when people worked in a shipyard getting covered in dust while monkey fucking cigarettes all day.

>>2023993
There's something about 9x9 tiles that is so aesthetic.

>>2023896
Asbestos is really only dangerous if it is loose and fibrous. Compressed asbestos isn't shit and only has a bad rap due to the name. Just wear a mask and goggles if you want to feel safe.

>>2024341
Heres 30+ years of "not muh problem" the before pic. W/scraping to see original tile.

>>2024462
>>2023993
clean it up, janny

>>2024590
Very original.

>>2023896
>wear mask
>wet everything
>have friend in mask hose breaks on the ground
>double heavy bag everything
>don't be a cunt, take it to the right dump

>>2023908
>Also, keep in mind asbestos are still not banned in Russia, so it means asbestos are safe.

LMAO

>>2024462
You do good work, anon.

>>2023957
>chuck asbestos shingle off roof
>cloud of literal lung cancer erupts
vs.
>chuck literally any other kind of shingle off roof
>mostly harmless unless you managed to inhale every particle, and even if it was pure silica dust you'd still be at better odds of surviving.

You're retarded bro sorry not sorry

>>2023896
That type isn’t very dangerous. Wear a decent dust mask, work in a damp day. Don’t do anything that will create dust.

Since it hasn't been mentioned, we would put that in grain bags then in plastic.

>mfw chinese people are the new asbestos

>>2023896
was your entire family killed by a pack of asbestos shingles or something? rip it off. it took day after day of unfiltered work around asbestos inside for there tk be issues
its outside
its a small amount
rip it off faggot

>>2023896
Well here that would be illegal to do yourself but: keep it wet and moist, wear a respirator suitable for that shit, throw away the clothes you wore because they are going to be full of fibers.

oh, great, i just needed this thread!
in my 3rd world country, those asbestosis bearing demons have been already banned, and i'm finding jobs for replacing such roofings for...mmm... well, by something similar.
Now a days, the material is some kind of fiber concrete (we call the material fibrocemento) and the name is the generic brand name (pizarreño; sí, hola giles qlos).
Thing is, i don't know the name of those tiles neither the material name in english. some anglospeaker willing to share some knowledge?
oh, i need the name for... a friend.

>>2023908
The only reason is because the Russians have entire towns mining the shit, and because they sell it to India and 3rd world dongholes for money.

>>2023896
Check the rules and laws
do when wet/damp to cut down on fibers, suggest active misting or rain if you can
wear cloths that you plan to toss when done and don't leave the job site wearing them
wear full mask P-100 or better is required!!!
recommend eye protection and googles under neither
wash down before leaving site, then wash down again, then shower thoroughly
research how to do it right

I studied Ceramic Nano Hazards in college, they had a whole two week section just for asbestos. Can't pay me enough to deal with it. If forced I would do full hazard setup. Even a small exposure can be bad as fiber can circulate inside repeatedly breaking DNA again and again till statistically one of those makes a cancer cell that goes nuts and kills you. People's anecdotal stuff don't make it safe, just proves some get lucky.

>>2026151
Nah, asbestos still find use in gaskets, brakes, idk, electric insulation material, siding, roofing. Asbestor fire proof cords.
Just everything except asbestos snow, because we don't need asbestos snow, since we have real snow.
Ppl tend not to install asbestos indoor. But during demolition (shitter rooms used asbesos sheets), nobody is using gas mask... Because gas mask is asbestos.
Asbestos is everywhere. You can't escape asbestos. Because it is naturally the best material.
New subway trains have asbestos for fire proofing I think. At least old ones had asbestos.
Think about it. On one hand you have fucking moisture resistand drywall... And on other you have chad indestructable asbestos. Which one is better? Naturally asBESTos.
>>2025938
Siding - hardie board, or fiber cement in general. Cellulose-cement I think it is.
Idk about plain sheets (those 5 mm ceramic tile bases) because cement board isn't exactly your fiber cement sheet. CFC, compressed fibre cement?
Roof? Eternit in UK.
I think only Australia into fiber cement, because nothing PVC will survive their harsh sun.
Idk, people seem to be afraid of any cementicious material it seems.

>>2026223
Well, third worlders and russians aren't dead. Then I guess asbestos doesn't work as advertised. And I wish it deed, especially in China.

>>2024246
Nice blog.

>>2023993
>>2024462
Looks good, what were those white stretches?

>>2027767
The original tile. I worked it in sections, so first I scraped a border around my work area through the thickest wax. Scraping is faster for the heavy buildup compared to stripper. Here's another angle in the same room when I started.

>>2023896
don't listen to all these fgts telling you asbestos ain't that bad, wear a proper respirator atleast. better to switch outfits after having doublebagged everything. asbestos particles dont leave your lung once they're in there, so wear a respirator and wet it before working on it so all the dust gets bound. if possible use a herbicide-like pump and get the underside aswell. used to do this professionally and we used some cementprimer mixed in water to get rid of as much dust as possible.

Just paint it over and let it be.

>>2027818
pic related is what we used to spray said mix on the underside. alternatively just spray it down with a garden hose, better do it a day before aswell. this is obviously over the top if you manage to get the screws out and get the whole piece down without breaking anything but most of the time shit don't be that easy

>>2027844
we used the middle top bags in pic related so no need to doublebag and we obvs had a forklift s we didnt need to care about the weight. if you don't wanna buy pic related use the thickest plastic bags you can find

>>2024246
You get what you fucking deserve, Murray!

Why is a job like this such a big deal? Fucking with this stuff once is a death sentence? I thought it was only prolonged exposure that hurt people. Seems to me it's like freaking out because you smoked a couple of cigarettes one day and then never smoked again.

>>2027924
nope the common sense thinking of 'a little won't hurt' doesn't apply here. the longtermresults of just a little asbestos in your lungs are fucking bad. Just because the effects aren't imminent doesn't mean there are no effects. And of course more exposure is worse but i'll guess some people need to fuck around before they find out.. oh my and probably muricans without healthcare kek.

>>2027924
your lung can repair that damage with a healthy lifestyle easy. your body can't get rid of asbestos. if you don't know your shit, just stfu.

>>2027942
>>2027944
How Bad Is One-Time Exposure to Asbestos?

One-time asbestos exposure generally is not a serious risk, except in extreme circumstances where toxic dust clouds the air. Asbestos-related diseases are usually caused by months or years of regular workplace exposure.

If you were exposed to asbestos for one day, the risk to your health depends on how much dust you inhaled.

Was the asbestos-containing product damaged or crumbly?
Was it scraped, smashed, drilled or sawed?
Was the area poorly ventilated?

If the answer is yes, and you did not take safety precautions, then you likely inhaled a substantial amount of asbestos dust.

Don’t panic. Asbestos exposure will not have any immediate impact on your health. If it ever affects you, it will take years for symptoms to arise. Make sure your doctors are aware of the event so it is in your medical history. Avoid any further asbestos exposure in the future.
Short-Term Exposure Fast Facts

Light, short-term exposure rarely causes disease
A one-off exposure from do-it-yourself renovation is not a major risk

https://www.asbestos.com/exposure/short-term/

>>2023896
>Wtf were my ancestors thinking?
Regardless of the asbestos use they were a lot smarter than you, you ungrateful bastard.
Wet it down and wear a mask or respirator and youll be fine sissy.

>>2027950
>Don’t panic. Asbestos exposure will not have any immediate impact on your health. If it ever affects you, it will take years for symptoms to arise. Make sure your doctors are aware of the event so it is in your medical history. Avoid any further asbestos exposure in the future.

AKA don't panic you're probably going to get cancer but theres nothing you can do about it in the short term so just let your doctor know he can afford a new porsche

>>2024325
My accountanthad black mold in her house. Her husband and two kids are fucked for life.

>>2027990
How do you even get through life being such a pussy? Do you have to wear three masks when you leave your house so you don't get the COVID?

>>2028219
trump lost and you will never be a woman

>>2028354
Because of you, I had to remove asbestos without mask, because every fucking retard bought out N95, N100, FFP3 and other shit because of some retarded flu virus.

>>2027990
>Make sure your doctors are aware of the event so it is in your medical history. Avoid any further asbestos exposure in the future.
I wouldn't do this. Your insurance would go through the roof.

>>2028219
>>2028447
did either of you even read my post or even understand what a quote is? Are you actual bots?

>>2028448
Yeah dont care

>>2023896
the trick to asbestos is to get it set and keep it wet. Spray it, mist it as you go, bag it all up. get rid of it.

>>2024221
>handguns
perfectly safe

>>2025751
Fucking keep it wet retard and it wont send a fuckin cloud of particles in the air.

Awful lot of faggots that drank the mesothelioma lawyer coolaid in here.

>>2023997
The thing was everyone smoked but people who were closely associated with asbestos had even higher rates of lung cancer. Disproportionately high rates of lung cancer in a world filled with cigarettes was worth addressing.

Don't get me wrong, OP should be fine taking down those roof tiles without any precautions. If he wants to he could get a half face mask and hire a dude to use a garden hose on his garbage pile and be totally safe.

>>2023993
that shit is lucky to have 2% chrysotile.

>>2023896
So I'm shitting myself. I've got a garage with an old asbestos cement roof looks in similar condition to OPs (just the roof the walls are concrete). I had it tested and it contains blue and white asbestos.
Anyway, when we moved in I didnt know and swept the garage floor clean, i didnt disturb the roof but there was dust everywhere, black shit in my nose etc... anyway now I've found out how bad it is I'm bricking it. Realistically how fucked am i? Is the dust on the floor likely to contain asbestos from the roof?

>>2029118
yeah but the point is that you don't have to keep any other kind of roofing material wet in order for it to not give people cancer.

>>2030812
>Is the dust on the floor likely to contain asbestos from the roof?
not even remotely enough to be a concern, unless you have any reason to believe there was asbestos material in the garage, all of the dust you swept up should have just been normal house dust, outside dust, and car dust.

>>2030823
Thanks Anon, appreciate the advice. No garage was empty just the roof that contains asbestos.
The roof looks mostly in tact but is clearly very old. Dont think the garage had been used for several years before we moved in hence the large accumulation of dust on the floor.
One of those things no one prepares you for when you buy your first house. Didnt know anything about asbestos before living here now I find myself obsessing over it.

>>2023951
>asbestos isn't that dangerous when you do just one removal. it only becomes a problen when you do it regularly.

exactly, it's long term occupational exposure that gets you, it's not like lead paint where one big exposure can make your kids permanently retards